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Title: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on July 15, 2011, 05:26:22 pm
In this corner we have Daniel, Victoria's husband and in the other corner we got Sofia Carl's new girlfriend

http://www.hoymujer.com/Corazon/Realeza/Daniel-Westling-Sofia-Hellqvist-634517062011.html (http://www.hoymujer.com/Corazon/Realeza/Daniel-Westling-Sofia-Hellqvist-634517062011.html) (its in spanish fyi)


What do you guys think? what do you think about what will happen when Madeline finds another guy?


Title: Re: Differences between Daniel and Sofia
Post by: YooperModerator on July 15, 2011, 06:37:47 pm
Got a google translate on your article alucard
For all those who don't speak Spanish (like me) :tehe:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=nl&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hoymujer.com%2FCorazon%2FRealeza%2FDaniel-Westling-Sofia-Hellqvist-634517062011.html


Title: Carl's Girlfriend talks to Magazine
Post by: Princess Alucard on August 30, 2011, 02:06:29 am
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kuninkaalliset/valirikko-ruotsin-hovissa---sofia-kommentoi-madeleinen-kaytosta/art-1288410318810.html (http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kuninkaalliset/valirikko-ruotsin-hovissa---sofia-kommentoi-madeleinen-kaytosta/art-1288410318810.html)

Sofia commented her relationship to Madeleine to Aftonbladet on Friday.
- We get along well. I think Madeleine is a strong and great personality.
Hellqvist denies that that she has caused tensions between the relationship of Carl Philip and Madeleine.
- Between us there is really not any drama. And never has been, Sofia said.
In May, they moved to the first joint home. In the summer Sofia was filmed for the first time at holiday with the king and queen.
- But otherwise, we have worked throughout the summer, Hellqvist told about their common summer.


Title: Re: Carl's Girlfriend talks to Magazine
Post by: rogue on August 30, 2011, 12:30:26 pm
We have ''worked'' throughout the summer  :laugh: Carl-Phillip is one of the laziest prince i have ever seen.


Title: Re: Carl's Girlfriend talks to Magazine
Post by: Princess Alucard on August 30, 2011, 08:34:18 pm
Who's lazier? Will or Carl?


Title: Re: Carl's Girlfriend talks to Magazine
Post by: Alexandrine on August 30, 2011, 08:50:54 pm
Carl, but he is not the heir of the heir, so cannot be compared imo.


Title: Re: Carl's Girlfriend talks to Magazine
Post by: leogirl on August 31, 2011, 12:18:11 am
Carl is just a rich man, he's not the heir to the throne, his sister is, and she's pregnant so the succession is not going to die out.

William hardly works at all, but I don't know enough about Carl to comment.


Title: Re: Carl's Girlfriend talks to Magazine
Post by: Dahlia on August 31, 2011, 03:52:17 pm
Carl is lazy! He goes now for how long to university? Sofia is a manipulator, but that´s not difficult, CP is a weak, but nice man.
I hope Silvia kicks her *butt* and CP gets a job!


Title: Re: Carl's Girlfriend talks to Magazine
Post by: D.I.R. on September 02, 2011, 03:38:56 am
I wouldn't be surprise if he marries her  :bored: just like all the crown princes with their taste of "women"  lols ... with an exception of Máxima she was the only commoner that was wanted out off all the Monarchs of Europe that didn't want their son's commoner choices. Queen Beatrix ordered her son to get back with her after he dumped her then was ordered to marry her. But eh  :cookie:


Title: Re: Carl's Girlfriend talks to Magazine
Post by: Nighthawk on September 02, 2011, 04:28:05 pm
another useless couple in the royal fold


Title: "The future princess of Sweden - Sofia´s first interview"
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 07, 2011, 04:21:43 pm
http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/b048f6eb#/b048f6eb/1 (http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/b048f6eb#/b048f6eb/1)

SvenskDam (reporter Åsa Bönnelyche and photographer Charles Hammarsten) have met Sofia and Carl Philip at the Museum of Photography. Carl Philip has helped Sofia to put photos on the wall to present the work of Project Playground. Åsa and Charles spent the afternoon with Sofia and CP and got an interview.
The interview is on the paper version of SvenskDam.
Here you can see the cover and the first two pages of the interview.
"The future princess of Sweden - Sofia´s first interview"


Maybe we should have a seperate box for sofia like you guys did for Kate.


Title: Re: "The future princess of Sweden - Sofia´s first interview"
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 07, 2011, 05:44:08 pm
If it is true that they are engaged, I am utterly disgusted. What trash and how dare she be allowed into the Swedish RF; are there no princesses out there that are good enough for Carl?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: berlin on September 08, 2011, 09:11:53 am
This is a bloody disgrace.  I've read that there are other Swedish noble families who were more worthy of the crown than the Bernadottes. It's a shame there's no way to take the crown from them.  Disgraceful family-ALL of them.  Yes including Victoria for supporting CP's relationship with Sofia.  A porn star for a princess?  I guess it is time for the monarchy to be abolished, at least in Sweden.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Lady Artemis on September 08, 2011, 10:10:03 am
Berlin   :worship: :worship:

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A porn star for a princess?  I guess it is time for the monarchy to be abolished, at least in Sweden.

More like a stripper as well,And UGLY too...where do they find these women for heaven's sakes!! YUCK what a horrible face  :James:

Please someone tell me this is a nightmare, and this Prince Carl will not succumb to her as William did with that lazy wh#re!!! 9 million people/women living in Sweden and he goes for this COW ok I'm done..I'm done!! Exactly the  Bernadottes shoudln't even have the title they don't have a single drop of Swedish blood in their veins, more like to French to me  :-


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Gwendolyn on September 08, 2011, 10:13:44 am
How awful (I wish them the best), but at least she will not be mother to the heir.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 08, 2011, 04:37:05 pm
Berlin
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A porn star for a princess?  I guess it is time for the monarchy to be abolished, at least in Sweden.
Exactly the  Bernadottes shoudln't even have the title they don't have a single drop of Swedish blood in their veins, more like to French to me

The Bernadottes are the descendants of one of Napoleon's generals and it was bequeathed by conquest. It's not like their claim and ancestry is royal or aristocratic; all by conquest via a Corsican general. I think that Silvia was a bad choice and it sets a bad precedent, mainly because of her addiction to plastic surgery and how it probably affected her daughter Victoria. Plus, the interest in just looks is porbably waht taught Carl Philip to ignore nice girls.

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Please someone tell me this is a nightmare, and this Prince Carl will not succumb to her as William did with that lazy wh#re!!! 9 million people/women living in Sweden and he goes for this COW ok I'm done..I'm done!!


You never know; William succumbed, we know that much. If a member of the BRF can break, when you think about it, so can anyone else. Nine million Swedes and more than enough nice girls out there, so he chooses one with a tarty past worth writing about in some tawdry paperback biography. What a pity that out of all the decent girl of the nobility as well, this tart gets the prince and will get to become a princess.

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at least she will not be mother to the heir.

That's not really comforting and not really all that good either way. Either way, the tart gets the prince, title, and tiara so there's no real comfort out there to the nice girls who would make fine wives and mothers.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Grey Mare on September 08, 2011, 05:38:38 pm
This is a bloody disgrace.  I've read that there are other Swedish noble families who were more worthy of the crown than the Bernadottes. It's a shame there's no way to take the crown from them.  Disgraceful family-ALL of them.

The same can also be said for the BRF. George I was 50th in line for the throne. The Whigs picked him simply because he shared their views on many issues. After that, every British monarch was mostly German rather than British and married minor German Princesses. By the time Queen Victoria took the throne she was 90% German. The Queen Mother and the spouses (except Philip) who married into the family afterward broke that cycle but many members of the aristocracy in the UK are genetically closer to the throne than the Windors. The House of Windsor only existing after WWI because of anti-German sentiment.

Berlin
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A porn star for a princess?  I guess it is time for the monarchy to be abolished, at least in Sweden.
Exactly the  Bernadottes shoudln't even have the title they don't have a single drop of Swedish blood in their veins, more like to French to me

The Bernadottes are the descendants of one of Napoleon's generals and it was bequeathed by conquest. It's not like their claim and ancestry is royal or aristocratic; all by conquest via a Corsican general. I think that Silvia was a bad choice and it sets a bad precedent, mainly because of her addiction to plastic surgery and how it probably affected her daughter Victoria. Plus, the interest in just looks is porbably waht taught Carl Philip to ignore nice girls.

Indeed. Whatever small amount of royal blood that they do have is from minor German houses with a small connection to Queen Victoria.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 08, 2011, 07:23:37 pm
http://asa.svenskdam.se/nar-jag-traffade-prins-carl-philip-och-sofia-hellqvist/ (http://asa.svenskdam.se/nar-jag-traffade-prins-carl-philip-och-sofia-hellqvist/)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: rogue on September 08, 2011, 09:34:07 pm
She is shameless isn't she , how do these girls do it ...She went to an event where Daniel was making a solo appearance and hugged him infront of the camera's. :thumbsdown: The SRF is desperate to make this hussy a princess  :ick:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 08, 2011, 10:11:48 pm
I know  I'm shocked :nervous: 


 Who's worse? Sofia or Kate on climbing up the Royal ladder?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 09, 2011, 06:48:44 am
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She went to an event where Daniel was making a solo appearance and hugged him infront of the camera's

Would someone please explain to me, WHY she wasn't dumped after this, or Carl Philip ordered to end it after this antic? Nasty little troublemaking nothing of a woman pulling something like this is unforgivable.

http://asa.svenskdam.se/nar-jag-traffade-prins-carl-philip-och-sofia-hellqvist/ (http://asa.svenskdam.se/nar-jag-traffade-prins-carl-philip-och-sofia-hellqvist/)

She looks horribly cheap and common and I have no clue on how women like this do it; I understand getting into a relationship and maintaining it, but I don't understand how they get the ring. Just how do they do it? She has no business being a princess, no business being a decent man's wife. Most nice men wouldn't dare marry her and her ilk, but princes do? It's like princes make worse choices than normal men do.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 09, 2011, 04:11:22 pm
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/62583506.html (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/62583506.html)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 09, 2011, 04:52:31 pm
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Could it be? Could the woman who once posed nude and did a reality television show become Her Royal Highness Princess Sofia?

Yes, probably and then another royal family will bite the dust.

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Take a look at Norway’s Crown Princess Mette-Marit. She was a single mother with a drug ridden past when she married Crown Prince Haakon in 2001

Because Haakon threatened to walk in a fit of chivalry, not because (I personally think) that Mette is the love of his life and always will be.

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Which Sofia has been doing a lot lately. Yesterday, she was at the Make Up Store’s 15th anniversary in which she received a 500,000 SEK check to give to a charity she supports, Project Playground. Prince Carl Philip was in the audience, proudly looking on in the audience.

I wonder how she makes her money if she has all this time on her hands. Don't princes meet career women anymore?

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Some royal watchers feel royals should marry who they want to

If they know how it is that they are marrying; often, many of these women (and in some cases men) put up a front for as long as it takes to end up getting the ring and getting through the ceremony. Commoners marry people who they think will be responsible spouses and parents; they don't take just 'love' into consideration.

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and one’s past shouldn’t matter when it comes to representing the country.


Try saying that to an American politician; JFK didn't marry any of his flings and didn't leave Jackie for Marilyn for a reason. It isn't about self, it's about the nation and about whether the person can do the job for life.

How long have Sofia and Carl been dating? Daniel was forced to wait a decade to make sure he was the real thing and good for Victoria, Sofia should not get a ring sooner than that.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 09, 2011, 06:10:47 pm
I think they're been together for only a year or so.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 09, 2011, 08:29:35 pm
That's it?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: rogue on September 09, 2011, 09:50:01 pm
He was with his ex for a decade ... :think: He is an idiot for thinking that he can marry a semi-pornstar and get away with it.Look who might become a princess  :nervous: :nervous:

http://www.cotilleando.com/attachments/f12/70960d1263384436-carlos-felipe-de-suecia-tiene-nueva-novia-getimg-2.jpg

http://www.cotilleando.com/attachments/f12/70962d1263384436-carlos-felipe-de-suecia-tiene-nueva-novia-getimg.jpg

http://www.cotilleando.com/attachments/f12/70961d1263384436-carlos-felipe-de-suecia-tiene-nueva-novia-getimg-3.jpg

Scary times  :nervous:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Gwendolyn on September 09, 2011, 09:50:49 pm
^ Warning: Not safe for work!  :D


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: rogue on September 09, 2011, 11:07:43 pm
Sorry  :shy: i forgot to say that the pictures are NSFW !! :sorry:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: benign on September 10, 2011, 12:09:16 am
shocking to see the pics i mean it seriously...no wonder the King and Queen have difficult time accepting her but then they will get on with it and accept it since they cant really say much considering CP is not the heir plus Victoria got to marry her trainer so all is fair....but wondering what is going on with the SRF...


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 10, 2011, 12:55:17 am
But with Daniel there hasn't been any nude pics  :weird: When he gets married to Sofia someone should blow these up and stand by the street when the couple drive by  :tehe:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: benign on September 10, 2011, 01:55:29 am
^not talking about pics...more like their choices (yeah i know it read snobbish )...


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 10, 2011, 04:27:42 am
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         http://www.smartredirect.de/ad/clickGate.php?u=Fo6Pr2As&m=1&p=0oAj48ggLw&s=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cotilleando.com%2Fattachments%2Ff12%2F70960d1263384436-carlos-felipe-de-suecia-tiene-nueva-novia-getimg-2.jpg
         http://www.cotilleando.com/attachments/f12/70962d1263384436-carlos-felipe-de-suecia-tiene-nueva-novia-getimg.jpg
         http://www.cotilleando.com/attachments/f12/70961d1263384436-carlos-felipe-de-suecia-tiene-nueva-novia-getimg-3.jpg

Oh my Holy Mother of the Lord; this is worse than Mette-Marit and I have no idea on how he would explain these to his children or the people of Sweden. This is beyond disgusting and if in fact he did marry her, these pictures would travel far and wide and would end up disgracing the RF. Daniel isn't as bad as this and has been a huge benefit and has never disgraced himself. He's been an honest businessman and he has been nothing but good for Victoria. Sofia has no definable/respectable career and these photos are inexcusable. This is pure bred white trash (as we call them in the States) and surely Sweden could not sink as low as this.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on September 10, 2011, 01:30:17 pm
The last developments of CP and Sofia's relationship (CP's schedule suddenly increased, Sofia's appearance at semi-official functions..) makes me think something is coming. Unfortunately.  :hiss:
And that's a shame, considering that Victoria had to wait nearly a decade to marry her beloved (and respectable) Daniel! Now that attention-seeker who has been with Carl Philip for barely 2 years may become Sweden's next Princess  :oooh:  bignono

Thank God the next heir(ess) is now safely en route for Victoria and Daniel.At least that greedy Sofia won't get to be Queen.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 10, 2011, 04:43:03 pm
If he marries her, he deserves to lose his title and money; he wants to go his own way, he should go it alone with no title and no standing. Then see how long Sofia stands by his side and then we'll see whether or not Sofia actually loves him.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Dahlia on September 10, 2011, 05:36:10 pm
I heard she treats him bad  :James:
It´s not a lovey-dovey relationship, this rough girl is using him and I hope he realizes it!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 10, 2011, 05:46:00 pm
He's in his twenties, which is around the time guys like to be slapped around by the bad girl; however, these days, the bad girls are the ones getting the ring, so frankly I think his mother and father should have a nice 'long talk' about his relationship and where it's obviously leading (in Sofia's eyes, not that of Carl's) and discuss how Sofia might view this relationship as opposed to him. A long talk also about her past and possibly future behavior as well.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: D.I.R. on September 10, 2011, 08:07:28 pm
@ Kuei Fei hes 32 years old born 13 May 1979. He's lazy, procrastinator & a pushover as well as stubborn.

I say let Carl & Sophia get married its not like this has never happen before.... he wants her he can have her.
All these monarch that are sitting on the thrones are not legitimate heirs to the thrones that their elders were bestowed upon by the people in the shadows many generations ago.

 :sigh:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on September 10, 2011, 10:01:40 pm
At least we will have a wedding next year  :tehe:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 11, 2011, 02:06:19 am
I bet Kate will want to go since after all, it'll be one of her social and moral peers getting a prince. I bet the little tart will end up wearing white too, just another slap in the face of decency.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Dahlia on September 11, 2011, 08:29:33 am
I hope she disappears slowly, I can´t take her face anymore  :ick:



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 11, 2011, 08:45:21 am
It's pretty pathetic that normal men are more fareful about their choice of spouse than royalty, I know that much.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Dahlia on September 11, 2011, 08:59:09 am
I guess they would say how cruel the world is to them that they aren´t allowed to marry the women they love, while commoners can do what they want.
Carl Gustaf gave supposedly his blessing, Silvia is more resistant but doesn´t wants to make CP unhappy, Madeleine (my heroine of the SRF) still loathes her (btw I hope she dumps this Chris guy he is also a sucker), Victoria would look like a hypocrite if she would be against his choice in the public. When V&D moved to Haga Palace and had a little party, it was reported that CP was mad at Madeleine that she is the only one who doesn´t accepts Sofia and it pains him.  :tehe:
Sofia already isolates CP from the young upper-class of Stockholm, because Emma Pernald is always there and Madde is loyal and so are the others to Madde. The press office had to make clear (in Sofias order) that she didn´t forced CP to stay away from a friends wedding  :D



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 11, 2011, 04:44:14 pm
http://www.expressen.se/noje/extra/1.1870834/prins-carl-philips-hemliga-moten-med-sofia-hellqvist (http://www.expressen.se/noje/extra/1.1870834/prins-carl-philips-hemliga-moten-med-sofia-hellqvist)

http://vimeo.com/28702590 (http://vimeo.com/28702590)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 12, 2011, 01:45:15 am
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Sofia already isolates CP from the young upper-class of Stockholm,

Bad, bad idea and seh is bad news because of that already. Anyone who isolates you from your friends and support system, is bad.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 14, 2011, 09:45:59 pm
Sofia's on Wikipedia now  :stop:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia_Hellqvist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia_Hellqvist)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 19, 2011, 04:15:25 pm
Finnish Iltalehti quotes Expressen: Madeleine´s friends are sending one of those questionable photos of Sofia (which have been. e.g. at a spanish site and tried to be removed from the internet) to eachother by phone.
It is not clear, if the photo is real and original. A friend of Sofia, Tony Kollberg says that it looks like a collage of photos.
The timing of this fuss is the worst possible for Sofia, she has been getting her relationship with Silvia warming, started to work at charity projects and changed her look to stylish and discreet. According to Expressen Silvia has started to think that Sofia is the one and only for her son, although it is quite difficult for her to accept Sofia´s past as a reality-tv-star and glamour model. Sofia worries how this fuss affects to her relationship with the royal family.

http://www.iltalehti.fi/viihde/2011091714403956_vi.shtml (http://www.iltalehti.fi/viihde/2011091714403956_vi.shtml)

http://cdnstatic.expressen.se/polopoly/bilder/2011/09/17/1.2562855TS1316242163926_slot100slotWide75ArticleFull.jpg (http://cdnstatic.expressen.se/polopoly/bilder/2011/09/17/1.2562855TS1316242163926_slot100slotWide75ArticleFull.jpg)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on September 19, 2011, 07:04:23 pm
It will be very difficult that girl become welcome in the SRF one day.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 20, 2011, 02:05:16 am
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Sofia worries how this fuss affects to her relationship with the royal family.

Interesting; she cares more about the relations with the RF of Sweden than abotu what Carl might think, or even about her own reputation or past misdeeds. A new spiffy dress (with a hideously low neckline) and new charity (when she should worry more about making a living) isn't going to erase her past.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 21, 2011, 04:55:54 am
Prince Carl Philip attended the HEMMA Swedish Design Goes London - Private View, at the Swedish Ambassador's Residence on September 20, 2011 in London.

http://i53.tinypic.com/29w5w5k.jpg (http://i53.tinypic.com/29w5w5k.jpg)

http://www.gettyimages.de/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=125760972&EditorialProduct=Royalty# (http://www.gettyimages.de/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=125760972&EditorialProduct=Royalty#)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on September 26, 2011, 02:13:41 am
Sofia and Carl Philip at Swedish American Life Science Summit, 26th August. Sofia´s mentor Barbro Ehnbom is the president of SALSS. Before this event Sofia gave an interview to SvenskDam, this is the event Carl Philip helped Sofia to hang the photos.

http://www.salss.com/img/2011_57.JPG (http://www.salss.com/img/2011_57.JPG)

http://www.salss.com/img/2011_11.JPG (http://www.salss.com/img/2011_11.JPG)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: rogue on September 26, 2011, 03:42:35 pm
She is really pushing herself to the forefront isn't she  :snob:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 26, 2011, 06:41:55 pm
A woman who poses like she has :snob: is certainly going  to end up being the type that wants to be front and center all the time. How could she be anything else other than that way? 


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: D.I.R. on September 26, 2011, 08:42:27 pm
Good for him  finding a girl that he is going to marry. Like I knew he would  :sigh: marry this one.

There's nothing one can do about this. The collective in Sweden & the rest of Scandinavia has to bit their mouth again and just grin. Like they did with Mette and Danial married into the monarch families


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 26, 2011, 09:04:20 pm
Mette is a problem, not Daniel; I am amazed that these monarchies don't just take a horsewhip and start flogging their kids, not stopping until the rebellious twits rediscover their royal roots and appreciate them.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: D.I.R. on September 26, 2011, 09:07:07 pm
okay KF  :thumbsup: ... I forgot to put Mary in there as well.  lol
But their parents 2 out of 3 of them married a commoner so would they be such a Hippocrates. Norway and Sweden monarchs


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 26, 2011, 10:59:18 pm
The only CP couple that doesn't seem to have problems is Belgium, where Phillippe married an aristocrat and Mathilde is probably the only one without serious psyche problems.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: rogue on October 07, 2011, 08:24:49 am
Apparantly there is a whole new batch of pictures of sofia and the SRF put a stop to it.They made it clear that she is a serious girlfriend and that they stand behind her. :o


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 07, 2011, 01:13:27 pm
Why?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on October 07, 2011, 05:37:43 pm
Because he is going to marry her  :ick:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 07, 2011, 05:45:45 pm
is already official?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on October 07, 2011, 05:50:02 pm
Not, but when the PR from the palace is trying to make her the new Mary Magdalene and the SRF are pressuring people so they don't release photos of her...


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 07, 2011, 05:55:08 pm
Hum, i see what you are pointing...


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on October 07, 2011, 05:57:45 pm
Why Carl?!?!?!? WHY?!?!?   First kugly now Sofia yep time to bring all the monarchies down  :bat:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 07, 2011, 06:03:05 pm
Calm down, calm down, Princess Alucard !  :there:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on October 07, 2011, 06:27:59 pm
I'm ok  :sob:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 07, 2011, 06:53:23 pm
Princess Alucard, you have had been a much better sweedish princess!   :snob:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on October 07, 2011, 10:01:14 pm
I agree


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 08, 2011, 04:43:00 am
Is the Swedish RF determined to destroy themselves? First, quite frankly, CP Victoria is owed an apology, mainly since she had to wait ten years and then Daniel had to end up putting up with the nasty insinuations as to his motives and character.

Not, but when the PR from the palace is trying to make her the new Mary Magdalene and the SRF are pressuring people so they don't release photos of her...

Um, Mary Magdalene to an extent didn't have a choice but to end up a prostitute. These days, women have a choice in where they will go in regards to their sexuality. Sofia has no excuse for her behavior and she can't seem to avoid low necklines. Women who do this stuff these days usually have serious issues in regards to their personalities and sexualities.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on October 08, 2011, 05:38:49 am
Princess Alucard, you have had been a much better sweedish princess!   

 :thankyou: But if I  ever ran into Carl be would take one look at me and run away  I'm not "pretty" as Sofia.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 08, 2011, 03:03:35 pm
You are much prettier inside, THAT'S WHAT MATTERS!

 :there:     kisss


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: berlin on October 08, 2011, 05:04:25 pm
Is the Swedish RF determined to destroy themselves? First, quite frankly, CP Victoria is owed an apology, mainly since she had to wait ten years and then Daniel had to end up putting up with the nasty insinuations as to his motives and character.

Time to get those ghastly, foreign Bernadottes out and install one of the honorable noble families instead.  No wonder the Swedish aristocrats can't stand this family. 

KF, Daniel and Victoria are Sofia's supporters!  Can you believe this!?!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 08, 2011, 05:33:12 pm
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KF, Daniel and Victoria are Sofia's supporters!  Can you believe this!?!

The world is officially over and I am completely disillusioned.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 08, 2011, 06:35:47 pm
Maybe they believe she changed and want to see Carl happy


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on October 08, 2011, 07:42:56 pm
If only Carl dropped her. I wish I was a fly on the wall to see what his family really thinks about it.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 08, 2011, 08:05:31 pm
One day, some book or a newspaper will tell. Be patiente  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 08, 2011, 09:39:46 pm
Maybe they believe she changed and want to see Carl happy

How will he be happy? He will be married to a womna who has serious issues and he'll have to work on that. She isn't looking to be a wife, but instead a pampered princess who wants to be taken care of by a sugar daddy of a husband.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Duchess Georgiana on October 14, 2011, 06:24:45 am
Uhm... about the nude pictures, are they real or photoshops? The reason for this stupid question is that I'm trying real hard to believe a royal prince would choose someone like this to marry  :thumbsdown:. And to add insult to injury, the SRF is giving the green light. Unbelievable! Gosh, I don't see any magic in royalty anymore. Way too many princes/princesses marrying commoners. I would love to see Princess Madeleine marry a Prince for a change (like Prince Harry, they would make a beautiful couple). But I guess it's not gonna happen. I think you girls understand what I mean. I am a commoner myself but c'mon!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on October 14, 2011, 04:50:45 pm
They are totally real, and there is not only one editorial but a couple, all of them trashy.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: MOSAIC on October 14, 2011, 05:16:18 pm
Unbelievable! Gosh, I don't see any magic in royalty anymore. Way too many princes/princesses marrying commoners. I would love to see Princess Madeleine marry a Prince for a change (like Prince Harry, they would make a beautiful couple). But I guess it's not gonna happen. I think you girls understand what I mean. I am a commoner myself but c'mon!
Duchess Georgiana.  Harry and Madeleine would indeed make a great couple and give those pushing William and Wasty pause for thought re the succession.  Actually, at her sister's wedding I believe Madeleine was seen dining out with another William, the heir to the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.  That would be an even greater match.  And she wouldn't have to play second fiddle to Wasty.
But if there is anything likely to happen it will be conducted discreetly.  The royals of Europe and Scandanavia would be beside themselves with joy.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: rogue on October 14, 2011, 08:16:21 pm
They are totally real, and there is not only one editorial but a couple, all of them trashy.

She even was a contestant on the Swedish version of Paradise Hotel  :o She also was Miss Slitz and oh she likes snakes  :June:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 14, 2011, 09:11:58 pm
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The reason for this stupid question is that I'm trying real hard to believe a royal prince would choose someone like this to marry

I am beside myself all the time with stuff like that.

Unbelievable! Gosh, I don't see any magic in royalty anymore. Way too many princes/princesses marrying commoners. I would love to see Princess Madeleine marry a Prince for a change (like Prince Harry, they would make a beautiful couple). But I guess it's not gonna happen. I think you girls understand what I mean. I am a commoner myself but c'mon!
Duchess Georgiana. Harry and Madeleine would indeed make a great couple and give those pushing William and Wasty pause for thought re the succession. Actually, at her sister's wedding I believe Madeleine was seen dining out with another William, the heir to the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. That would be an even greater match. And she wouldn't have to play second fiddle to Wasty.But if there is anything likely to happen it will be conducted discreetly. The royals of Europe and Scandanavia would be beside themselves with joy.

If that happened, Madeleine would make the cover of ALL the papers and all the magazines would go wild; a royal/royal match where the two principals are royalty and smashingly attractive. Then of course, a REAL princess as a future Queen, the society houses would be flung wide open and the press would rightly go gaga and it would be something I would stay up all night for. A REAL royal wedding.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on October 15, 2011, 06:07:40 pm
If you scroll down Carl and Sofia were at a game

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/63540350.html (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/63540350.html)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on October 15, 2011, 06:40:58 pm
"The prince spends all his time with Sofia - Carl Philip ignores his school ratings. He is alling behind at school more and more"
http://www.expressen.se/noje/extra/1.2589762/missa-inte-senaste-numret-av-extra (http://www.expressen.se/noje/extra/1.2589762/missa-inte-senaste-numret-av-extra)



Prince Carl Philip presented the scholarships
http://www.kungahuset.se/kungafamiljen/aktuellahandelser/aretsaktuellahandelser/prinscarlphilipdeladeutstipendier.5.70e7de59130bc8da54e80008426.html (http://www.kungahuset.se/kungafamiljen/aktuellahandelser/aretsaktuellahandelser/prinscarlphilipdeladeutstipendier.5.70e7de59130bc8da54e80008426.html)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 15, 2011, 11:00:47 pm
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Carl Philip ignores his school ratings. He is alling behind at school more and more"

That woman is nothing but trouble.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on October 16, 2011, 12:25:05 am
And his family doesn't care


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 16, 2011, 02:54:58 am
I'll never understand why either.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Duchess Georgiana on October 16, 2011, 09:39:54 am
She needs porcelain veneers ASAP.  Her bad teeth makes me wanna :runforhills:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Dahlia on October 17, 2011, 06:59:51 pm
I expect an announcement after the birth of Victorias child and they appear as engaged couple for the first time at the christening.  :wellduh:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 17, 2011, 07:50:15 pm
Such an appearance will be well nigh blasphemous.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on October 19, 2011, 12:17:49 am
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The reason for this stupid question is that I'm trying real hard to believe a royal prince would choose someone like this to marry

I am beside myself all the time with stuff like that.

Unbelievable! Gosh, I don't see any magic in royalty anymore. Way too many princes/princesses marrying commoners. I would love to see Princess Madeleine marry a Prince for a change (like Prince Harry, they would make a beautiful couple). But I guess it's not gonna happen. I think you girls understand what I mean. I am a commoner myself but c'mon!
Duchess Georgiana. Harry and Madeleine would indeed make a great couple and give those pushing William and Wasty pause for thought re the succession. Actually, at her sister's wedding I believe Madeleine was seen dining out with another William, the heir to the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. That would be an even greater match. And she wouldn't have to play second fiddle to Wasty.But if there is anything likely to happen it will be conducted discreetly. The royals of Europe and Scandanavia would be beside themselves with joy.

If that happened, Madeleine would make the cover of ALL the papers and all the magazines would go wild; a royal/royal match where the two principals are royalty and smashingly attractive. Then of course, a REAL princess as a future Queen, the society houses would be flung wide open and the press would rightly go gaga and it would be something I would stay up all night for. A REAL royal wedding.

Why hasn't someone put Harry and Madeliene near each other, I bet there would be an attraction.
But still it's great if she is dating someone from a European Royal House, I would love that wedding.

I expect an announcement after the birth of Victorias child and they appear as engaged couple for the first time at the christening.  :wellduh:


Yes I think Sofie will hang in there until she gets the Prize. I hear that Emma Pernaud is still friends with Pss Madeliene and goes to some royal gatherings socially. Last I read Emma has an Aristo boyfriend but I think she's still hoping to get Pr.Carl back if he dumps Sofie.  :bored:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 19, 2011, 01:48:00 am
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Last I read Emma has an Aristo boyfriend but I think she's still hoping to get Pr.Carl back if he dumps Sofie. 


Pity that he dumped a nice decent girl for this creature.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on October 19, 2011, 08:06:09 pm
Madeleine is dating an american man from the jet set, not anyone from the european noblity/royalty.



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 19, 2011, 09:49:34 pm
OH dear heavens.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on October 19, 2011, 09:51:21 pm
^^ Fairy tale of New York: Swedish princess finds love again with millionaire Prince Charming

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348005/Princess-Madeleine-Sweden-finds-love-millionaire-Chris-ONeill.html#ixzz1bGN5CdRE


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: leogirl on October 19, 2011, 11:40:38 pm
Why can't they date good people? It's [almost] always trash and/or jet setters. Normally I get annoyed with anti-monarchists because of their apparent lack of respect for history and tradition, but now I am starting to agree with them...


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 19, 2011, 11:59:07 pm
I think anti-monarchists care bout their history and tradition more than the royals; I think it's the dynasty they resent, or the people, not the system itself.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on October 20, 2011, 12:02:07 am
Well I'm antimonarchist and I resent the people, the dinasty and the system.




Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: leogirl on October 20, 2011, 01:02:10 am
Well, some people want to get rid of the monarchy because of personal beliefs, they believe it's bad to have people with titles, and they get mad for the sake of getting mad. But in recent times, that is changing. Even people who don't care about monarchy either way (it's fine to have a monarchy, and it's fine to not have a monarchy) or think they can be beneficial are starting to turn against them because of the behavior of the members of the royal family.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on October 20, 2011, 11:14:15 am
I don't understand what you mean about getting mad just for the sake of getting mad  ??? But I agree on your second point  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 20, 2011, 07:20:57 pm
Alexandrine, some people just like to cause trouble and complain.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on October 22, 2011, 03:34:57 am
http://www.bunte.de/royals/carl-philip-von-schweden-seine-sofia-will-unbedingt-serioes-sein-_aid_27970.html (http://www.bunte.de/royals/carl-philip-von-schweden-seine-sofia-will-unbedingt-serioes-sein-_aid_27970.html)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2011, 10:08:41 pm
Why is he doing this to Sweden? Does he not care anymore? Plenty of decent women and he takes up with this.


Title: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 03, 2011, 09:44:12 pm
How Sofia is drilled to be a princess

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How Sofia is drilled to be a princess

Sofia Hellqvist, 26, could be our next princess.

From ast spring glamour model from the valley has been living with Prince Carl Philip and now she's turning into Sweden symbol.

Work has already started - Sofia goes prinsesschool.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article13775510.ab?teaser=true

http://cdnstatic.expressen.se/polopo...rticleFull.jpg

IS THIS TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alexandrine on November 03, 2011, 09:47:10 pm
I'm going for yes, maybe she will have good company in the royal circles  :rolleyes:


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 03, 2011, 10:04:59 pm
Oh dear heavens; Sofia and Kate will work to outdo each other in putting on airs of virtue, just you wait!


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alexandrine on November 03, 2011, 10:05:28 pm
Just like Mette and Letizia!


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 03, 2011, 10:26:59 pm
It just gets worse! This is horrifc! :o I cannot imagine just what this is going to do to Sweden's RF's reputation! There isn't a lack of nice young LADIES and it's not like there is a lack of successful professional young women! This is disgusting and this is only going to enrage the upper class Swedes who have more than enough lovely young ladies out there who are from families that are also highly influential.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alexandrine on November 03, 2011, 10:28:13 pm
After this year the SRF is going to be a huge jock, poor Swedes!

Just imagine Sofia in the Nobels  :ick:


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Byechoc on November 03, 2011, 10:32:20 pm
Just like Mette and Letizia!
I do not believe that you will put Mette and Letizia in the same league than these two!!!  :-

Both Mette and Letizia work everyday... more than these two do!!


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alexandrine on November 03, 2011, 10:34:36 pm
Same reputation, and if you consider porn photos work, Sofia also worked!


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: benign on November 03, 2011, 10:39:59 pm
After this year the SRF is going to be a huge jock, poor Swedes!
Just imagine Sofia in the Nobels  :ick:
yup, big joke alright...Victoria cannot say anything since she married her trainer..


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 03, 2011, 10:44:08 pm
After this year the SRF is going to be a huge jock, poor Swedes!

Just imagine Sofia in the Nobels  :ick:

That will be the worst. That creature meeting people who have just earned the highest award in the world and I wonder just how tanned she will look for the occasion. THIS woman is going to end up representing Sweden and I cannot imagine how ashamed the Swedes will be.

Same reputation, and if you consider porn photos work, Sofia also worked!

I have ot agree with Alexandrine here. The two other women are as tawdry as anything and each has brought a tremendous amount of baggage from their past with them.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Byechoc on November 03, 2011, 10:51:36 pm
Same reputation, and if you consider porn photos work, Sofia also worked!
Well diferent jobs!!! At least they have decent jobs!!!

But I say that Mette and Letizia, work much more in their first 150 days than kate did until now! Sofia will be the same..


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alexandrine on November 03, 2011, 10:55:11 pm
I don't mean now I meant when they were only normal people we still don't know if Sofia is going to work hard as a royal or not (although I don't expect that). What I tried to say is that they had a reputation before marriage same with Sofia, nothing related to their work.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 03, 2011, 11:11:47 pm
I have no clue what mental looniness is going on inside Carl Philip's head; what next, Madeleine ends up marrying James Middleton?


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gwendolyn on November 03, 2011, 11:31:42 pm
I would still be very surprised if this happened.  The way Carl Philip stayed with Emma until the marriage question was unavoidable, and then took up with the first agreeable plaything, I have to think he is not good at getting out of relationships, hurting someone's feelings, and getting on with his life.  At some point though, the prince in him has to kick in and remember this chick was just a rebound.  If he's anything like the guys I've known in my own life, he went a little wild sowing his oats after Emma, and he may even still think he's having a great time with Sofia.  She'd probably do anything to avoid a fight, so it's probably all fun and sexy games.  If he isn't the total sleaze this relationship has made him appear to be, he's going to get to a really serious point with her and then realize if he continues any further, there's no escape.  That ought to be enough to get him thinking clearly again.  One other thing we learned with the Emma breakup is this is a man who reacts badly to being stuck.

Also, Victoria still has plenty of room to talk.  Daniel is a gem.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 03, 2011, 11:42:17 pm
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If he's anything like the guys I've known in my own life, he went a little wild sowing his oats after Emma, and he may even still think he's having a great time with Sofia.  She'd probably do anything to avoid a fight, so it's probably all fun and sexy games.

Just like Kate, really.

As for Victoria, Victoria had to wait ten long years, during which Daniel had to endure a lot of nasty insinuations as to his intentions with Victoria and a lot of other unfair things. She would definately be one ot talk and the Princely side of William is beginning to kick in, but it's too late since he is married now and he is stuck with Kate. As for Sofia, just because our culture is a lot more tolerant, it does not mean that people do, or should find this sort of stuff acceptable. Politicians are more careful and ordinary men still shy away from girls who show skin. She has no chance at redeeming herself and she might go on a PR campaign, but that is more work for the Swedish courtiers and more expense for the Swedish RF and more headaches for Carl. What IS it about these women that gets them wedding rings from such prominent men? HOW do they do it?


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gwendolyn on November 04, 2011, 12:42:35 am
There's a fair amount of selling themselves involved, even if money never actually comes into play, that's how.  Any guy who falls for it isn't worth worrying over though.  It's just a shame this one happens to be an entire country's representative.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 04, 2011, 02:03:14 am
Right, but this certainly throws out the whole "be a nice girl and you'll do just fine in life." It's like the ones who are doing every single WRONG thing seem to be thriving the most. What a topsy turvy world out there! It reminds me of those women out there who have a dozen kids they couldn't care less about, but they get a full free ride while those who work to save and have kids, have to postpone until they're almost unable, despite following all the rules!


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alexandrine on November 04, 2011, 04:37:48 pm
Gwen that may happen with normal guys but with royal men it's the opposite they always marry the skankiest of their gfs.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 04, 2011, 10:07:51 pm
I always noticed that, haven't you?


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alexandrine on November 06, 2011, 10:50:52 pm
ok we can bet on when they announced the engagement, I say in May.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gwendolyn on November 06, 2011, 11:14:04 pm
I half suspect we'll get a pregnancy announcement before there's an engagement between these two.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 07, 2011, 01:24:12 am
Oh dear heavens, I am hopeful that they don't.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Princess Alucard on November 11, 2011, 04:05:57 pm
http://svenskdam.se/2011/11/sofia-vill-nu-lara-sig-mer-om-den-offentliga-miljon/ (http://svenskdam.se/2011/11/sofia-vill-nu-lara-sig-mer-om-den-offentliga-miljon/)


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Duchess Georgiana on November 15, 2011, 07:39:07 am
My mom was reading through the posts about Cp and Sofia and her jaw dropped when she saw Sophia's nude pictures. She wants to know if the pics are real or photoshops  lol So ladies, are those pictures real, what do you think? I told mom they look real to me  ;)


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alexandrine on November 15, 2011, 02:16:54 pm
They are totally real, she even went to a swedish reality show similar to big brother.



Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: beline on November 15, 2011, 03:38:43 pm
The pictures are real and she even made several different photoshoots through the years. Princess material ? bignono


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 16, 2011, 05:16:49 am
My mom was reading through the posts about Cp and Sofia and her jaw dropped when she saw Sophia's nude pictures. She wants to know if the pics are real or photoshops  lol So ladies, are those pictures real, what do you think? I told mom they look real to me

They are real and your mother should be told the truth.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: royal_watcher05 on November 23, 2011, 05:01:26 pm
Those pics are very very real! i agree with KF, Duchess G, your mom should be told the truth. I wouldn't call her princess material at all.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: HC on November 23, 2011, 05:04:15 pm
Are we talking about the snake picture?

Or even worse - the picture where Sofia is wearing only shoes?  :ick:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on November 23, 2011, 05:06:58 pm
Perhaps he falls for a certain look?

Emma and Sofia look a a lot a like IMO.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 23, 2011, 05:46:14 pm
A lot of men have a preference, but this is just ridiculous; there are plenty of nice girls out there who look well and are brunette.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 23, 2011, 05:46:57 pm
The tabloids will have a field day with all those tawdry pictures out there.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on November 23, 2011, 06:17:58 pm
One can sometimes see men get married 2 or 3 times and the wife and former wifes looking like twins or triblets. That is scary.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 23, 2011, 06:50:33 pm
He is going to ruin himself.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Vicki on December 02, 2011, 01:52:39 am
  Oh how funny it would be if there is a marriage.  :laugh: Monarchs attending their wedding, trying to pretend all is good and proper.   :dance:
At least,  she is not a future Queen consort


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 02, 2011, 02:57:25 am
I bet Kate and Sofia would outdo each other in putting on virginal airs. I mean, bad enough Kate is the future Queen Consort, but Sofia would be breaking entirely new ground


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Ceridwen on December 05, 2011, 06:40:54 am
I have no clue what mental looniness is going on inside Carl Philip's head; what next, Madeleine ends up marrying James Middleton?

Hi KF  :hello: I don't mean to cut it but I completely agree with you.  What's wrong with all of these royal princes?  As for Madeleine marrying James Middleton,,,oh dear gawd, I hope not.  :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Ceridwen on December 05, 2011, 06:50:03 am
It's sad that these royal princes have zero brain cells & the only thing they're capable of doing is to see who ends up with the skankiest wife!   :tantrum:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Lady Artemis on December 05, 2011, 09:18:09 pm
Completely Agree!!  :bored:

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It's sad that these royal princes have zero brain cells & the only thing they're capable of doing is to see who ends up with the skankiest wife!   


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: rogue on December 05, 2011, 10:00:51 pm
Thats because they are caught up in the romanticized image of a common girl , i think these princes have seen too many hallmark movies.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Lady Artemis on December 06, 2011, 07:08:12 pm
He couldn't find one in University?...oh wait we know how that ended up with another royal!! Maybe the nice girls don't want to be associated with them or its the skankiest that of course find a way to win over their interest...since they don't have anything of interest themselves an easy way out, . Unlike well estabished girls that have a lot to lose or maybe not hmmm these skanky girls have no goals no future and stick to these nobleman like icky glue! But when it comes for these 'noble" men  to choose them as future digantaries of a country beats me?!? What the hell! somebody put some reason into them  bignono Stupid delusional bastards...I am done!  arghhhh


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on December 06, 2011, 07:13:16 pm
He had a gf during his twenties but broke off when he started dating Sophie...  and he is still going to uni


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 07, 2011, 05:09:54 pm
Thats because they are caught up in the romanticized image of a common girl , i think these princes have seen too many hallmark movies.

I have to fully agree with you; he might be going through a skanky phase, but Sofia has a different idea on how long it should last and quite frankly I don't see how on earth princes don't see this. These days, you can make your life over, but you have to own up to your past and make genuine changes. There have to be limits on how much countries should be expected to forgive of women who have pasts that are disreputable. I'm not talking about family circumstances, I'm talking about choices that people make when they have them.


Title: Re: How Sofia is drilled to be a princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 07, 2011, 05:11:42 pm
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What's wrong with all of these royal princes?


They do this because they can afford to; they aren't the ones paying the bills for their wardrobe, for thier travel, and they can make their courtiers clean up their messes and to me that is the crux of the issue. If they had normal jobs and had to make their way in the world, there is a high chance that they wouldn't have anything to do with these women.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Catrina on December 07, 2011, 05:33:11 pm
Thats because they are caught up in the romanticized image of a common girl , i think these princes have seen too many hallmark movies.

Right! Just as there are women that romanticize the idea of the prince/aristocrat.
But I do wonder how the idea of a common girl can be romanticized  :sigh:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 08, 2011, 01:28:38 am
Simple; the princes think the commoner girl will love them for themselves and will be a down to earth fun buddy while the princes think that the aristocrat will be mean, marry them only for their title, and be bulimic all day. Look at all the movies and shows that show commoners as aspiring doctores and the born princess/aristocrat villian as aspiring to bulimia.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Catrina on December 08, 2011, 03:35:07 am
Well, I happen to find some truth in those idealizations. But then again, there are the common people, and then there are the... common people.  :snob:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Lady Artemis on December 08, 2011, 05:59:49 am
so how did he meet sofia again? A party event? A birthday bash?  ??? And just like that he was smitten?   :-


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: rogue on December 08, 2011, 07:43:38 pm

But I do wonder how the idea of a common girl can be romanticized  :sigh:

A common girl is always presented as a simple and warm person , a girl who comes from a stable and loving family somebody who will go the extra mile for you .Its like how a cheerleader is presented as a *lowlife*/*female dog* and vain while a tomboy/nerd is presented as real and intellectual.Its all stereotypes.Which is why Hollywood movies are so predictable


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 09, 2011, 04:18:08 am
How does she do it? That is what I would like to know and I am stunned that a woman like that can get a prince, a real, bonafide prince. How DO they do it?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Catrina on December 09, 2011, 06:34:07 am
The same way these types of women have been getting princes for centuries: by stinking of ambition, sweating plans and having a certain structure to their lives.
Princes don't have to work, or worry about what they'll do next, so I understand why it would be refreshing (and even addictive) to meet someone so full of plans, excited about her life, and happy to fulfill her goals.

All good/smart women have these traits, but vapid/easy/fake women just looove pretending to be all these things, and pretending requires acting like a caricature. So, to an untrained eye (a prince) they end up coming off as much more genuine than the other ladies who are more quiet, reserved, and who --I bet-- can't find anything to talk about with a prince that they haven't heard before.



The squeaky tire always gets the oil  :poledance:  

(The Edit button timed out, sorry)

...Especially women who don't take themselves too seriously. Look at this woman, she can pose for nude pictures if she wants to, and she doesn't have to worry about what anyone else but herself thinks about it. She can be on reality shows if she thinks it would be fun, and she doesn't have to worry about keeping a certain image or pleasing her elders.

It's a bit extreme, but if we're talking about a Prince, he will find this especially refreshing, since he's always lived surrounded by the complete opposite of this. Like it or not, these type of women show Princes that there really is more to life. Also, it's a man we're talking about, and if a regular man can also grow tired of gender-related stereotypes and expectations, think about the pressure a Prince must feel! He'll fall for someone like-minded, someone who doesn't follow tradition, gender roles, and doesn't care about what's expected of her.





It's the exact same reason why sheltered, good girls end up falling for the atheist guy with long hair who sings in a metal band. But I'm totally speaking from personal experience here.  :P

...And no, that did not end well  :sob:



If I recall correctly, someone mentioned this is only his second serious relationship and that he's still at Uni (like me), right? Yeah, he still has a lot to learn, but someone like Sofia will be a great learning experience  :sigh:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on December 09, 2011, 01:41:12 pm
I merged your posts!

He is at uni but he is already 32.

Sofia and he met at a pary I think when he was still dating Emma.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 10, 2011, 02:46:36 am
On another forum there is this photo of Sofia with the caption "Most likely to have screwed both Pappy and Sonny." Hilarious. :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Catrina on December 10, 2011, 07:27:24 am
Thank you, Alexandrine!  :thankyou:



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Lady Artemis on December 10, 2011, 10:13:41 am
HAHAHAHA    :tehe: :tehe: :tehe: FUNNIEST THING EVER!! 

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"Most likely to have screwed both Pappy and Sonny." Hilarious. 

You don't say?? hmm hahahaha

Thanks Alexandrine for the info  kisss

VALID POINTS Catrina  :thumbsup: I never considered their idiosyncrasy when it comes to women! BLAHHH and Bleekkk I can just imagine from that first that party he had his eyes on her like a hound dog  :hot: with no respect for his girlfriend whatsoever...or why would he insist knowing her reputation?!? In this age of the internet I don't doubt just for one bit he already seen her naked images or has seen them. DOUBLE FOUL!! He should know better..never mind just take a look at all these modern princes...do they even deserve the tile..heck I can take a more moral men out of from the streets than these self-pompous bastards any day...and they would certainly would have an ounce of decency!! SHAME!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on December 29, 2011, 02:02:18 pm
Carl Philip seems to have represented Project Playground rather officially with Sofia in August.

http://www.wvf-scea.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64:scea-supports-project-playground&catid=1:latest-news (http://www.wvf-scea.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64:scea-supports-project-playground&catid=1:latest-news)

At Expressen Extra:
Sources to Expressen
Sofia may not become a Princess
The King´s secret plan for the girl friend of Carl Philip
http://cdnstatic.expressen.se/polopoly/bilder/2011/12/29/1.2664139TS1325141267676_slot100slotWide75ArticleFull.jpg (http://cdnstatic.expressen.se/polopoly/bilder/2011/12/29/1.2664139TS1325141267676_slot100slotWide75ArticleFull.jpg)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 29, 2011, 06:30:07 pm
I'm optimstic that Sofia will be broomed out after a few months and then Carl will marry someone decent. Not her, anyone but her!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Mada on December 29, 2011, 06:41:34 pm
She seems to make a lot of efforts to remain in the running of becoming sweden next princess...but she still lacks class. Is it real love between them ?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Dahlia on December 29, 2011, 07:33:16 pm
From what I heard she is the boss in the relationship and leaks stuff to the press.
I don´t think it´s love from her side, she is fame hungry.

BTW I don´t get why the press spokesman of the SRF is always speaking for her.
Imagine Daniel would have behaved so, no wedding bells in 2010 (and no baby in March 2011  :sob: ).
But Victoria found the right one  :flirt:



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on December 29, 2011, 08:12:08 pm
I agree.

I think it is odd that the spokes person refer to Sophia at all. As long as there is no official engagement they should not mention her.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 06, 2012, 01:12:02 am
What hope do decent women have when Princes choose women like this? Sofia had her chance to fly right and I am disgusted taht women who have done right by themselves and others (before they met a prince) get bypassed in favor of women like that. I am disgusted. All these nice girls who play by hte rules and respect themselves lose out to tarts like this.

Sofia Hellqvist attended the Strauss concert at the Finlandia Hall in Helsinki today and got a donation for Project Playground.
Näin prinssi Carl Philipin rakas puhui Straussin konsertissa | Viihde | Iltalehti.fi
Sofia Hellqvist sädehti lumoavana Helsingissä – katso - MTV3.fi

Photos:
Sofia, her sister Lina and the producer of the concerts, Patrick Lagus
http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/s/mediagallery/2012/1/5/735990/wj051906v.jpg
http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/s/mediagallery/2012/1/5/735984/wj051888v.jpg
http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/s/mediagallery/2012/1/5/735985/wj051891v.jpg
http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/s/mediagallery/2012/1/5/735986/wj051893v.jpg
http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/s/mediagallery/2012/1/5/735987/wj051896v.jpg
http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/s/mediagallery/2012/1/5/735989/wj051905v.jpg
http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/s/mediagallery/2012/1/5/736008/wj051965v.jpg

Just look at her, putting on airs. Pity that Carl couldn't at all pick someone who was decent enough BEFORE the woman met him. Are decent women so impossible to find? He marries her, he deserves to lose his title and place in the succession.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on January 06, 2012, 12:50:36 pm
Yep, now she is so classy and appearing in the swedish big brother was only a mistake due to her youth.....  :laugh:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on January 06, 2012, 03:59:48 pm
So the PR campaign to make her appear as a suitable royal wife is on  :angry:

But "You can take the girl out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl." Her nude pictures and her greedy behaviour (the money for her charity going directly on her personal bank account for example ) will always haunt her.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 06, 2012, 08:42:07 pm
Yep, now she is so classy and appearing in the swedish big brother was only a mistake due to her youth.....  :laugh:

Hardly.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on January 06, 2012, 09:28:58 pm
euh either she had half her face botoxed or that smile/grin is as fake as Pamela Anderson's boobs!
The smile never reaches her eyes not once!
She's just flashing her teeth :thumbsdown:
Hyena #2 I say!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Byechoc on January 07, 2012, 12:44:07 am

Sofia Hellqvist is already being prepared of the "Royal" job! Maybe a wedding this year?  :dance:

http://www.royaltyinthenews.com/2012/01/05/sofia-hellqvist-accepts-donation-to-charity/

http://www.royaltyinthenews.com/2011/09/07/prince-carl-philips-girlfriend-a-future-royal/


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 07, 2012, 04:09:05 pm
I wonder what the Swedes think of this.

Royals (when the title and lineage actually MEANT something) used to take into consideration their people when it came to spouses because they knew that their people deserved the best of the best in regards to lifelong representation and such, plus to them, marrying fellow royals and nobles were actually a preference and not a view of being martyred. I honestly wonder if CP quite understands that Sofia isn't showing any real restraint and as much as I dislike Kate, quite frankly even Kate never went this far, starting her own foundation and then going overseas as a self appointed representative of Britain or going to fundraising events as a self appointed representative of the British people or RF.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: giamodel60 on January 07, 2012, 04:58:21 pm
She is certainly preparing a lot of jobs for Carl  :James:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 07, 2012, 07:08:31 pm
I have no idea on how Victoria might be feeling about this. Sofia is practically usurping a royal prerogative and also tarting around accepting official protocol and VIP treatment/coverage.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on January 07, 2012, 07:45:07 pm
I have no idea about what Victoria might be thinking, but Madeleine's attitude certainly proved she doesn't like Sofia's behaviour.
Expect a big catfight behind the scenes if Sofia becomes Carl Philip's wife :catfight:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 07, 2012, 09:44:04 pm
if he ends up going through with becoming engaged and then going through with the marriage, he should renounce his title and his place and his trust fund and make his own way in the world.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on January 07, 2012, 11:13:40 pm
He probably thinks that since will married kate he can marry Sophia and get away with it too


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 08, 2012, 12:34:21 am
I must say, William has set quite the standard, eh?

I wonder how long it will be until something even worse comes along? Is CP trying to find a way to get kicked out of his family and the country? It's been going downhill for some time, so I wonder, how long until it hits rock bottom? Will James Middleton make a play for Madeleine?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Acornia on January 15, 2012, 08:29:26 am
It's a real pity Wills did not set a higher standard in choosing a bride.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 15, 2012, 08:10:18 pm
It wasn't just William who did this, it was the other Crown princes who could have chosen a lot better. Thousands of dazzling princesses out there and they choose the ones they've chosen. Flame away, but quite frankly I am disgusted that they have married who they have and it's all led up to this.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on January 20, 2012, 12:35:14 am
They all went screaming, pouting,crying to Mummie and Daddy King and Queen that if they weren't allowed to marry for LOVE, then it would end up like Pr.Charles and Diana.  :Kate: (The sad part is, half of these Consort choice will probably end up in DIVORCE ANYWAY.)

I also think Victoria of Sweden could have chosen better although I do like Daniel and he does appear to be a really hardworker as well as very supportive of the Crown Princess....but still. What's the point of Royalty if all of them are now nothing but real commoners and I don't mean Aristocratic commoners like Diana and QueenMother.....I just mean pedestrian man on the street,most of them...although nice, most would not have made the cut in the past.  :bored:

(and would it really kill Madeliene to go flirt with Harry or Harry to go say hi to Madeiliene. She is somewhat his type physically. I just don't get these Royals today!!!)  :cookie:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on January 20, 2012, 04:30:55 am
What's so funny is I never seen SRF and BRF mingle


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 20, 2012, 07:13:59 pm
Well, the BRF has been a lot more cut off and has looked down on the rest of the European monarchies for being too 'modern.' It's not easy to mingle with people who cut themselves off.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on January 21, 2012, 12:31:21 am
...I read once that the Courtiers did at various times, try to nudge the Princes in the British house towards these other Princesses and titled ladies across various houses in Britain and Europe, but the Princes just roll eyes..... :dontknow:

This was done during Pr.Charles time with Diana and various Aristos and he did marry 'a Lady" in the end.....(Prince Andrew during the teen years also was put around a few,he liked Catherine Oxenberg who was from a Royal line, but she wanted no part of the life, there were attempts to get Pr.William to have a look see at Madeliene. and various Aristo girls around ...but it's met with such protest. It's almost reverse snobbery with these royals....they all try to avoid each other for some reason.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 21, 2012, 04:14:52 am
I agree and if you don't mind my saying, I don't understand why. These women are beautiful, accomplished, hard working, would make excellent mothers, and also at the same time, end up being rejected because of some adolescent rebellion against stricture and against plain common sense. Harry and Willaim are just being stupid and irresponsible and are being idiots. I wonder how they would be if they didn't have titles, or a vast fortune, or are being just plain childish. I wonder how long the both of them would last in the real world, if they were in fact to end up having to fend for themselves. They are so deliberately jaded and it's plain ingratitude.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on January 21, 2012, 04:59:42 am
SG: I think it's a weird case of the grass is greener on the other side (even if the grass turns out to be painted green with toxic dye in the end..)
They think that these commoner females are easier to mould and handle because the are awed by some of the royal life style (or what they believe is such),
Most princesses have more self-confidence due to their background and in modern times they are equal to men in status which makes them scary to a lot of royal males.
The princesses know what they want and what they won't tolerate!
The men would have to live up to a moral standard which is not required by the common gals.
They are easier to date, men don't have to try to hard to impress them!

In short most royal men are too scared and too lazy to date a classy lady! :snob:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 22, 2012, 11:00:49 pm
Swedish media: he has borrowed money!

To embellish his inherited estate in Trosa, Sweden, Prince Carl Philip has taken a loan from the bank. Does he do that out of love for his Sofia? According to palace insiders that's were are two even have their summer residence.

The bad headlines keep coming for Sweden's royal family. After Carl Gustaf (65) and Silvia (67) unusual Facebook entry with private holiday greetings from Thailand providing positive press coverage to the alleged red-light district visits of the king. Meanwhile the  Swedish magazine "Se & Listen" is occupied with Prince Carl Philip (32) and his controversial love for ex-Bikini-Girl Sofia Hellqvist (27).

Before Christmas, the king's son has taken a loan of just under 160,000 Euros (already converted), according to the tabloid "Aftonbladet". At the same time he submitted a planning application for a boathouse and a dock on his property in the Swedish community Trosa - all for only his Sofia?

One thing is certain: The lake property with house (worth the equivalent of about 2 million €) that the prince has inherited 2009 from a naval officer. Since then, it is considerably renovated. To keep everything in good shape, Carl Philip now borrowed money from the bank: a very unusual move for a Royal, said the magazine. "He does everything for love. He and Sofia and their children will have this as their summer home", the magazine quotes a palace source.

Is his middle-class girlfriend about to become luxurious queen?


My my, didn't take long for her to get into enjoying the luxe life. Just wait, seh will bankrupt him and I hpe he ends up having to work his way out of debt. Maybe working for a living will teach him a lesson about hanging out with skanks.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on January 23, 2012, 05:49:30 pm
Kuei Fei
He will bankrupt himself. I don't think he needs any help.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on January 24, 2012, 02:57:39 pm
Carl went to an auction to support Sofia
http://www.examiner.com/royal-news-in-national/prince-carl-philip-s-girlfriend-sofia-hellqvist-hosts-charity-auction (http://www.examiner.com/royal-news-in-national/prince-carl-philip-s-girlfriend-sofia-hellqvist-hosts-charity-auction)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 24, 2012, 06:54:08 pm
Why not raise money for Swedish children?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on January 24, 2012, 07:04:05 pm
Do celebs and royals ever raise money for their local charities really?  It's always Africa  :laundry:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on January 24, 2012, 07:16:16 pm
I don't think that sweedish children are poor.

In Denmark the latest scandal is that many unimployed don't bother to find a job. All unimployid get subsidiary. And it turns out that restaurants, hotels, supermarkets you name them, can't get the labour they need. While the unimployed apparently enjoys life and the subsiduary to cover rent and other expenses.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 24, 2012, 11:59:44 pm
Do celebs and royals ever raise money for their local charities really?  It's always Africa  :laundry:

You have a good point there. I always wondered why and while Swedish children are not living in the Third World, there is nothing wrong with supporting your own country and THEN worrying about another country. to be honest I have felt that royals tend to constantly ignore their own countries, using, say, the money their taxpayers give to them as a srot of ATM to send to Africa. If Frederick and Mary used their time to create care packages for needy Danes, then I am sure they would be more effective in service to THEIR COUNTRY than using taxpayer funded time and resources on Africa. Flame away, but if I were Princess of France, I would think that my time and resources should be going to help the French.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on January 25, 2012, 02:14:00 pm
But as HC says I doubt that there is needy people in Denmark or Sweden, after all they pay more than half of their salaries so they can have the bests welfare states in the world.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on January 29, 2012, 04:53:06 pm
http://www.gofeminin.de/stars/sofia-hellqvist-bald-prinzessin-n94762.html (http://www.gofeminin.de/stars/sofia-hellqvist-bald-prinzessin-n94762.html)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 30, 2012, 12:39:26 am
I just hope that this relationship does not end in marriage, but ends in a breakup. There have to be limits and there has to be limits if there is going to end up being an end ot this disgusting farce of a relationship. I mean, there are more than enough princesses around, there are more than enough aristocratic women around, and there are more than enough ladies without titles around.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: gloria on February 19, 2012, 12:53:10 am
Here I have some photos of the couple if they want to see more see my album.Carl is a favorite of the King. A Victoria made ​​her wait long to marry Daniel. A break Madeleine made ​​Jonas feel that she forgave him.
http://s1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg488/gk044/Princesa%20Victoria/?action=view&current=STE_THE_SWEDISH__6137822.jpg
http://s1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg488/gk044/Princesa%20Victoria/?action=view&current=isopix00032029010.jpg
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Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on February 19, 2012, 07:59:21 pm
The Swedish king didn't like Daniel but liked the unfaitfull and cheating Jonas (Madeleines fiancee).

The king has said that Jonas reminded him of himself as a young man. And then Jonas turned out to have an affair with a renowned handball player and impregnated a lawyer collegue.

Madeleine is really lucky not to have married Jonas. And Victoria is a fortunate woman with her Daniel.

And the favorite son can do whatever he wants as he is the son.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 21, 2012, 03:37:57 am
WIth a father like that, it's no wonder that Maddy and Carl are so messed up.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on March 13, 2012, 03:21:13 pm
http://www.billedbladet.dk/Kongelige/ArticleFolder/2012/3/Video%20Carl%20Philip%20far%20ros%20af%20forelskede%20Sofia.aspx (http://www.billedbladet.dk/Kongelige/ArticleFolder/2012/3/Video%20Carl%20Philip%20far%20ros%20af%20forelskede%20Sofia.aspx)

Already engaged??
http://www.side2.no/underholdning/article3350530.ece (http://www.side2.no/underholdning/article3350530.ece)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on March 13, 2012, 03:34:51 pm
 :ick: :ick: :ick:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Dita on March 13, 2012, 09:03:12 pm
I think I'm through with the SRF.  I love Victoria, Daniel, and Estelle, but the idea of that... trollop becoming a Princess?  :ick:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on March 15, 2012, 08:44:34 pm
Gods must be crazy


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on March 18, 2012, 09:24:35 pm
Reading a Norwegian magazine....doing translation

"carl philip can breathe a sigh of relief
 Was Furious princess madde going to oppose a relationship,
a source told Swedish,Se Hor after the relationship between Carl Phillip and Sofia were known they were right


 Sex bully Sofia,  Madeliene bitter enemies, *despise* his brother's sexy girlfriend

Finally friends
It was Queen Silvia, who eventually ensured that the ice finally melted. The Queen ordered Madeleine to a deal with it and be friends with Sofia. :o :o :o
We have very nice time said a smiling Madde to Expressen, after a two-hour lunch with Sofia and Prince. -It was very nice suppierte Sofia Hellqvst"

(Sorry my translation is goofy but best my google would do.)  :cookie:

So basically Carl Phillip is going to shove this girl down everyone's throat.
 :poledance:



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Dahlia on March 18, 2012, 09:57:25 pm
Madde is my favourite SRF member, because she has at least common sense. As much as I like V&D, both seem to be out of reality sometimes. But they are good human beings, that´s why they welcome Sofia. I understand it would look weird if they protest against this *sleeze*, because of the controversy around Daniel (which was stupid, he was a business man and his family is classy). But, hello? Sofia is not nice or naive, she knows what she wants and found the idiot CP.
Madde, stay strong, they will get what they deserve for treating you like *poo*.  :hug:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on March 18, 2012, 10:18:41 pm
Here in Norway the magazines are filled with Sofia's old *sleeze* photos.  :poledance: It tragic that Pr.Carl is going to give her a title and a ring. He seems totally besotted.
 They have news on the Swedish and Norwegian Royals every few days and many believe that Pr.Carl is going to cave in and marry her. (Well not really cave in, he's going to happily marry her!)

What is with these Royal Houses? What's the point if these families become all the lowliest commoners?)



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 18, 2012, 11:48:29 pm
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It was Queen Silvia, who eventually ensured that the ice finally melted. The Queen ordered Madeleine to a deal with it and be friends with Sofia.   
We have very nice time said a smiling Madde to Expressen, after a two-hour lunch with Sofia and Prince. -It was very nice suppierte Sofia Hellqvst"

With CG for a father and Silvia for a mother, I am impressed with how well Maddie and Victoria have turned out; Silvia is a horrible mother for pushing her own DAUGHTER into accepting Sofia. Doesn't Silvia get it and I am beginning ot understand just WHY there was initial dislike when Silvia come on the scene.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Catrina on March 19, 2012, 07:11:46 am
What is with these Royal Houses? What's the point if these families become all the lowliest commoners?)


Oh, hun, these people have been the lowliest commoners since ever!!! They're simply lucky people only live up to 100 years and therefore can't remember the things they've done throughout the centuries.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on March 19, 2012, 12:36:05 pm
But Catrina before they didn't try to sell themselves as moral compass of anyone, now they try to justify their position with that argument.

I'm also Team Madeleine, they made her break out with Jonas for cheating and her father has been cheating for years but Siliva has stayed. And now Sofia. No wonder she stays in NY.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 19, 2012, 06:42:57 pm
Team Maddie here too!

As for Jonas, he was a cheater and she deserves so much better.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on March 19, 2012, 06:53:11 pm
Kuei Fei

I do agree.

And I do hope that she will avoid a new Jonas.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on March 19, 2012, 08:55:37 pm
Maddie team !


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on March 19, 2012, 10:57:01 pm
KF I think both cheated and she was happy in that relationship so if that's what she wants, why not?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on March 19, 2012, 11:58:21 pm
When will these Royal Family stop playing nice? They need some US campaign workers on the job of getting rid of these girls, because there would be Sex tapes (even if they have to be invented, or missing weekends where these girls wouldn't remember what the heck they did) and every other kind of scandal to get rid of these people. The US knows how to find shite and create such a awful mess of politicians lives until most are never seen in public office again, .....well except Bill Clinton, he's kinda like teflon) :tehe:

but John Edwards
...Gary Hart

many others.....on and on.....

There was a girl who said Pres. Reagan had held orgies with her and sshe was preparing to name names other members of his cabinet involved....she was never heard from again.......so the story died,.....

Royal Family's are too nice today, they need to get old school.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 20, 2012, 12:05:27 am
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When will these Royal Family stop playing nice?

They'll stop when they face losing their position and face actual consequences; all of them are supported by taxpayers, supported by flunkies, and they will only end up getting tough when they ahve to do thei dirty work themselves. I do hope that courtiers in these courts end up walking away and start letting these RFs fend for themselves. Only when these royals are shoved off will they appreciate the things they had. American politicians have much to lose and also, American politicians have a keen understanding of how to protect the image of the nation, which often includes persoanl sacrifice in many areas.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on March 20, 2012, 10:43:22 am
Alexandrine

If there has been any gossip about Maddie cheating on Jonas back the, please share with us.

I've never heard such a rumour.

There was tabloid gossip about Jonas trying to talk his lawyer collegue to get an abortion, but she refused.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on March 20, 2012, 07:13:45 pm
Yes, there were articles about her cheating with a hockey player that had a girlfriend.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Lady Artemis on March 23, 2012, 03:13:06 am
 :gogirl:


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Madde, stay strong, they will get what they deserve for treating you like *poo*. 

It's time for the tables to be turned!!!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on March 23, 2012, 01:01:52 pm
If Madeleine cheated with a hockey player I just don't understand why she got engaged.

Because Victoria got engaged? I hope not.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on March 24, 2012, 09:44:55 pm
Because they had an open relationship I think?

She wanted to get married AFAIK before Victoria did but as CG didn't let Victoria marry Daniel and she had to marry before M, she had to wait.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on March 25, 2012, 02:00:41 pm
My guess is that the King loved Jonas and hated Daniel. As such I don't think the King wanted Madeleine to wait until Victoria was married.

As I recall Madeleines wedding was announced in november and Victorias the next year. But I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: berlin on March 25, 2012, 10:05:25 pm
There was tabloid gossip about Jonas trying to talk his lawyer collegue to get an abortion, but she refused.

So was the baby's his?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on March 25, 2012, 10:10:14 pm
berlin
According to the gossip that I've read, no one questions that the baby is his. As the woman is a lawyer, I could not imagine her lying about it. She is not a nobody that wants to a somebody.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on March 25, 2012, 11:36:06 pm
If Madeleine was cheating on Jonas, why didn't he use it against her in the press ,when the world came down on him for breaking her heart and cheating with the Norwegian girl?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on March 26, 2012, 02:32:39 pm
there were press articles about Madeleine's supposed relationship with the other guy but really Jonas wouldn't win either way because he was going to have a baby with a lawyer colleague. Imo the norwegian girl was a plant from the RF so Madeleine could break the relationship without much fuss.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on March 26, 2012, 03:37:11 pm
A bit of gossip from the time

http://www.seoghoer.dk/Nyheder/Royalt/madeleines%20eks%20skal%20vaere%20far.aspx
He could have had a princess and a large part of the Swedish kingdom, the people's sympathy and respect and a long economic problem free life.

 But he would rather *copulate* around.

 First Jonas Bergström was unfaithful to Princess Madeleine.

 Now learn Swedish SE and HEAR from multiple sources that her 30-year-old ex-fiancé sheet exercises have made one of his colleagues at the law firm Vinge pregnant.

 - In the office in Småland gate, we have known it for a long time. Jonas has met several times with a female colleague that got pregnant a while ago. He should have tried to get her to get an abortion, but she has totallyt refused, says the source of the SE and flax.

 Another of the magazine's sources say that of course it has affected the princess Madeleine. This is supposed to be one of the reasons why the court subdued her down so she does not overshadow her sister at the weekend's romantic wedding.

 - She is obviously both disappointed and very sad, the source said.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on March 26, 2012, 03:44:30 pm
Jonas was an *butt*, if he wanted out, he should have just said so, instead of the nonsense.

A plant can't get you to f-around if you are not a cheater, all he had to do was say, get lost or NO.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on March 26, 2012, 03:56:12 pm
serene grace
I totally agree.

And more gossip and a picture of - not the lawyer - but the handball player Tora

http://www.aftonbladet.se/brollopet/article12283902.ab

Norwegian Tora, 21, about her love night with Jonas Bergström: We were intimate
TRONDHEIM / STOCKHOLM. Yesterday exploded the secret that made the crack between the Princess Madeleine and Jonas Bergström total.

Norwegian Tora upstream Berg, 21, chose to come forward and talk about her night of love with Jonas.

- I had an affair with Maddes fiance last year - we were intimate, she said to Norwegian Se og hear.

In August last year, announced Princess Madeleine and Jonas their engagement at Solliden on Öland.

But the couple has not been seen on official occasions since December.

And last week - when Queen Silvia told that the wedding is postponed - the love crisis, became world news.

- Unfortunately there will be no wedding this year. It goes without saying. There is a lot happening now and it's very intense, said Silvia.

According to Madeleine's friends, it is Jonas wild nightlife that has caused the love crisis.

He has repeatedly chose to party instead of spending time with Madeleine, according to witnesses, he appears frequently as he is single.

Met at a nightclub
In April last year Jonas went to Åre to celebrate a friend's bachelor party. The friends stayed at the luxury hotel Tott and Jonas enrolled under the assumed name "Jacob Bernström".

During a night out in Åre, he met Norwegian Tora upstream Berg, 21. Now, she chooses to appear in an interview with the Norwegian magazine Se og hear and talk about their night of love.

- I had an affair with Maddes fiance last year - we were intimate, she says in the interview.

Jonas must have met the Torah outside the nightclub "Construction", around two o'clock at night. It is said he first having introduced himself as "Jonas" before his friends quickly corrected him and said: "Your name is Jacob Bernström".

But many in the nightclub should still have recognized the princess's boyfriend and noticed that he flirted openly with the Torah.

Jonas Bergström is reported to have invited the Torah to his hotel. First the Norwegian had declined, but then changed her mind.

Witnesses told the couple took a taxi together.

"We exchanged numbers"
- We had an affair. He followed me home in a taxi about four o'clock in the morning. Before we parted we exchanged phone numbers and he gave me a hug. He was incredibly nice and a gentleman throughout the evening, says Tora upstream Berg to Se og hear.

Only the day after she realized that she had spent the night with Princess Madeleine's boyfriend.

Torah chose to not proceed with her story.

But after Queen Silvia told the press that the wedding was postponed, it changed her mind. The Norwegian, justify it by saying that she thinks that Madeleine deserves to know the truth.

"So sorry for Madeleine"
- Had I known that he had a girlfriend, I had never done anything. I feel sorry for Madeleine, who has a cheating boyfriend and I can only say I am pleased that Queen Silvia has now confirmed that the wedding is postponed, says Tora told the newspaper.

Se og Hør contacted Jonas Bergström already last year. Then he denied that he had been in Åre at that time.

But when the newspaper confronted him with several witness statements Jonas admitted that he had been at the resort.

First denied Jonas also that he had met Tora, but then said that she may have been part of the gang he ran during the evening.

Silence from the court
Aftonbladet was yesterday talking with Tora, but she would not comment on their night of love with Jonas.

- I have no comments, positive comments for the moment. I'm sorry, 'she says to Aftonbladet.

The court has not denied the information in the Norwegian newspaper. They chose last night to meet Jonas Bergström's alleged infidelity in silence.

- I can not and will comment on the details, says Nina Eldh, court information officer.

Swedish Women's Weekly published the Norwegian Journal information already yesterday at the Web site. According to the Swedish Women's Weekly Jonas Bergström was saying that there will be an official statement - but that denies Nina Eldh.

- I do not even know if Jonas has said so. There is no official announcement planned what I know.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on March 26, 2012, 04:03:19 pm
But as I said Madeleine imo was ok with cheating the problem was the pr
egnancy an the rf pressured her to get out with the public cheating. Isn't surprising how little publicity has the pregnancy in comparison??


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 15, 2012, 02:17:37 am
I hope he doesn't marry her; Sweden does not deserve this and how on earth is CP going to take Sofia anywhere without causing offense? Who would receive her, without offending any woman there? Should the Empress of Japan be expected to greet her without being insulted or feeling insulted?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on May 15, 2012, 06:24:47 pm
Alexandrine
As I understand the timeline, the wedding was postponed and the Thorah cheating and the impregnated lawyer was stories that hit the press after the postponing.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: gloria on June 16, 2012, 01:07:20 am
Carl Philip of Sweden and Sophia walking in Stockholm.
I believe that God exists, so will have to do justice. This girl no, no, and I do not like.
http://db3.stb.s-msn.com/i/8F/3483B15250A7882C2EC74634A8A96_h498_w598_m2_cQIiPyakY.jpg
http://db3.stb.s-msn.com/i/97/DC4A6548DB5477FB9705226826EFB_h498_w598_m2_cepcxADbj.jpg
http://db3.stb.s-msn.com/i/7C/9935A66752B266FD2E6736F93F_h498_w598_m2_cbnbVhPDe.jpg
http://db3.stb.s-msn.com/i/DF/E9CE1A1E1038642F4E96FE53DAC834_h498_w598_m2_cKdWZjKtn.jpg
http://db3.stb.s-msn.com/i/2C/77A2A92A2DB1AA1C4628C1A92AA3_h498_w598_m2_cHNiAUAZQ.jpg
Se bildene av svenskeprinsen på byen med Sofia - Prins Carl Philip på Stureplan med Sofia - MSN Kjendis

Sofia attended the June 11 gala of "The Economist of the Year" in Stockholm.

http://vimmelprinsessan.svenskdam.se/files/2012/06/BBBSofia3.jpg
http://kungligamodebloggen.svenskdam.se/files/2012/06/Bild-510-430x671.png
http://vimmelprinsessan.svenskdam.se/files/2012/06/BBBSofia21.jpg
http://www.miralaonline.net/images/kqc1W.jpg
http://www.miralaonline.net/images/A7Pyb.jpg
http://www.miralaonline.net/images/Wd4tm.jpg
http://www.miralaonline.net/images/6vMS.jpg
http://www.miralaonline.net/images/w6RDS.jpg
http://www.miralaonline.net/images/Qfr3.jpg
http://www.miralaonline.net/images/SJZ3y.jpg


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: gloria on June 16, 2012, 01:18:28 am
Carl Philip of Sweden and his girlfriend in a car race.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4728/78920069.jpg

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5401/81502192.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3005/72728628.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5608/56066920.jpg

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4240/24526179.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9456/60083455.jpg

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2061/84666693.jpg

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9867/89579194.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7112/27977818.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8447/82882834.jpg


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: rogue on June 22, 2012, 10:28:38 pm
Sweden will become a republic the moment this tacky tart marries into the family .


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 23, 2012, 04:02:23 am
Do you guys think we will wake up one day and end up seeing the announcement, much like we did with William nad Kate?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on June 23, 2012, 10:48:55 am
Unfortunately, I think we will.  :cry: :thumbsdown:
And rather sooner than later, but after Crown Princess Victoria's birthday on July 14.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 23, 2012, 12:26:47 pm
Sweden will never live it down; where would CP take her? He could never bring her to Saudi Arabia where al the Muslims are complete fanatics and there is no Asian head of state who would ask his wife to greet her as an equal. What a fine mess this man is going ot make of his family.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on June 23, 2012, 01:00:52 pm
Maybe Carl Philip will choose not to represent the Swedish RF abroad in that case. And maybe his wife will be made "only" a Duchess, and not a "HRH Princess of Sweden". One can hope...


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 24, 2012, 12:02:16 am
I think a morganatic title is all she deserves; being a duchess would be perfect and it would set a precedent for commoners who want to marry in. I think that if you are not a born aristocrat or princess, you should surely be happy with a morganatic title, mainly because after all, it is for 'love.'


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on June 24, 2012, 05:26:45 pm
Carl Philips choice of Sofia reflects on him as in - he must be quite stupid and lacking any substance.

The best would be that Carl Philip didn't receive any apanage. He could keep his title but had to earn his own living. After all there is no rule saying that anyone but Victoria should receive apanage.

Prince Joachim was not supposed to receive apanage. He only got it due to the popularity of his former wife Alexandra.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on June 29, 2012, 01:24:50 pm
 :goodpost:


Title: Re: P Carl Philips girlfriend Sophia not invited to P Madeleines birthday
Post by: Alexandrine on July 16, 2012, 04:10:44 pm
http://myroyal-myroyals.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/princess-victoria-and-prince-daniel.html?spref=tw

 :NOwhy:



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on July 16, 2012, 08:23:46 pm
As if having to watch Sofia's carnal smile during Princess Estelles's christening was not enough  :angry:
Daniel was not even allowed to join in at family events before being officially engaged to Victoria !


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: rogue on July 16, 2012, 10:03:17 pm
I have no words  :o Lets hope she takes the monarchy with her when she enters that family .


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on September 04, 2012, 03:40:43 pm
Sofia with countess Alexandra

http://www.isopix.be/persfotos_photos-de-presse/unicef-veranstaltung-in-stockholmsofia-hellqvist-und-grafin-alexandra-von-danema-944565-st.aspx



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on September 04, 2012, 07:28:45 pm
Poor Alexandra.

Wonder why Alexandra smiled so happily to Sofia.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Albany on September 24, 2012, 12:22:16 am
If I had to guess, I would say Carl Philip is a complete narcissist. He's chose someone who looks disarmingly like him, and that's usually a sure sign of it.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on September 24, 2012, 10:41:11 am
Sometimes people think Sofia looks like his mother when she was young.

They once ask Prince Carl who was the most beautiful woman in the world and he said my mother.

I think Queen Silvia is beautiful and was so sweet and innocent looking when she met the King, something Silvia Helq has never had  .
Sofia is a pretty girl, but she looks like a total tart, nothing innocent or regal about her.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on September 26, 2012, 04:13:06 pm

Sofia Hellqvist i stor intervju i Holknekts tidning

http://bloggar.aftonbladet.se/hovbloggen/2012/09/sofia-hellqvist-i-stor-intervju-i-holknekts-tidning/


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on September 26, 2012, 04:35:14 pm
http://translate.google.be/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbloggar.aftonbladet.se%2Fhovbloggen%2F2012%2F09%2Fsofia-hellqvist-i-stor-intervju-i-holknekts-tidning%2F&act=url

google translate


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on October 25, 2012, 10:45:11 pm
I'm afraid the new wedding will mean another engagement from these two


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on October 26, 2012, 09:26:54 pm
YUP !  :o


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on November 10, 2012, 10:51:20 am


I was looking at the SE og Her ( but the Norwegian magazine version) and it has a photo of Pss.Victoria,Daniel, Pss. Madeliene,Chris, Pr.Carl Phillip and Sofia all together on some snow or ski outing.  The magazines here are saying  Pr.Carl has been planning to ask for Sofia's hand in marriage for about a year, so he's very happy now that Madeliene is engaged,he will soon ask Sofia.   
They are saying we should look for a possible New Year engagement and that the Princesses get along with Sofia now. Victoria saw that her brother was serious and Sofia has always bent over backwards to get along with his sister's but Madeliene was not always welcoming to her   but since the summer things were smoothed out greatly because Victoria could see that Sofia was going to be Pr.Carl's choice, so she worked at smoothing things with Madeliene.    Victoria wants a peaceful environment and is a gracious royal, she always asks is there a way to make peace and Madeliene finally saw that her brother needed that, so she is getting along with his girlfriend now. 


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Leila on November 10, 2012, 11:05:55 am
Aren't those snow pics from a year ago? I remember seeing something like that.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on November 10, 2012, 11:12:43 am
Maybe, not sure, they used several old photos,  but the magazine used them(again perhaps) to illustrate that the couples are all now getting on and Sofia's engagement to Pr.Carl Phillip is right around the corner.  :wed: :queeny:  :tehe:

The magazines in Norway have been saying for months an engagement is coming for these two at the end of this year or in 2013.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on November 10, 2012, 12:41:40 pm
 :NOwhy:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on November 10, 2012, 01:12:23 pm
 :laugh: I've been reading this stuff for months here, but it went into overdrive with Maddy's engagement.

I hope it's not true, but I honestly don't think Sofia is going anywhere, she's like waity-katey she will firmly stay at his side, block off all women until she gets that proposal. (But.....Carl Phillip is said to be completely smitten by her, the Prince has fallen hard  :flirt: according to the gossip rags, he adores her.)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on November 25, 2012, 02:55:47 pm
http://www.mtv3.fi/viihde/uutiset/muut.shtml/1662981/carl-philip-ja-sofia-hellqvist-vastaavat-suhteen-kriisivaitteisiin

I would make him give up his rights.

(Akasha: I tried posting the translation but the link that shows is the normal so don't kill me!)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Snokitty on November 25, 2012, 03:48:33 pm
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtv3.fi%2Fviihde%2Fuutiset%2Fmuut.shtml%2F1662981%2Fcarl-philip-ja-sofia-hellqvist-vastaavat-suhteen-kriisivaitteisiin

I got it Alex    :hug:   kisss


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on November 25, 2012, 08:50:50 pm
Who me? :devil: wouldn't dream of it :June:
hihi nah I wouldn't kill one of my co-staf in here it would just mean more work to do for me, that wouldn't be very smart now would it?! :tehe: :P

just kidding, I know you don't do the translate thing on purpose dear :hug:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on November 28, 2012, 10:31:40 pm
the girl isn't ugly at all


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on February 07, 2013, 07:43:26 pm
http://www.purepeople.com/article/carl-philip-et-sofia-hellqvist-les-amoureux-s-affichent-pour-suede-argentine_a115104/1?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I didn't like Daniel but I'm liking him less and less. He is approving of Sofia  :ick:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: D.I.R. on February 07, 2013, 08:58:15 pm
it's none of his business, he stays out of others peoples personal affairs just like his wife.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on February 07, 2013, 09:14:07 pm
don't understand your post


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on February 07, 2013, 09:51:34 pm
http://www.purepeople.com/article/carl-philip-et-sofia-hellqvist-les-amoureux-s-affichent-pour-suede-argentine_a115104/1?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I didn't like Daniel but I'm liking him less and less. He is approving of Sofia  :ick:

He's might be happy to have someone who is considered socially beneath him, around.  :o


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on February 07, 2013, 09:55:14 pm
as he was not accepted he must feel he must help her  :ick: it's the second time he goes alone with Sofia.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Snokitty on February 08, 2013, 12:23:29 am
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.purepeople.com%2Farticle%2Fcarl-philip-et-sofia-hellqvist-les-amoureux-s-affichent-pour-suede-argentine_a115104%2F1%3Futm_source%3Ddlvr.it%26utm_medium%3Dtwitter
Quote
If the Princess Victoria, yet shining this week to distinguish "the Homo of the Year " , was once again clearly preferred to remain in the palace Haga with the little princess Estelle, enjoying every moment before resuming her full-time role , he had with him his brother Prince Carl Philip ... Sofia Hellqvist and his wife.

The young woman, a former candidate for reality TV for less hot (Paradise Hotel) and well-known Scandinavian charm for some pictures that have not missed a problem when her romance with Prince began in Swedish 2010, in fact followed the meeting with the son of King Carl XVI Gustaf, the most beautiful part of the country , and the crown prince. Anxious to buy a pipe, especially since his royal love story makes it a potential future Princess of Sweden, Sofia Hellqvist, which seems to inspire the best models (Victoria of Sweden, Denmark Mary, Kate Middleton) is more visible in the public sphere Prince Carl Philip: in January, she even took part in the gala of the Swedish edition of Elle magazine, where his beloved was responsible for awarding prizes .

Officially elected as the heart of Carl Philip in the summer of 2010, moved in with him in 2011, and admitted for the first time in the life of the royal family in May 2012 on the occasion of the baptism of Princess Estelle, Sofia Hellqvist, by his presence at the Friends Arena, strengthening its position as contender for ... next engagement.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Snokitty on February 08, 2013, 01:23:43 am
http://www.newmyroyals.com/2013/02/prince-carl-philip-and-sofia-hellqvist.html

Daniel doesn't appear to be close to Sofia. I think he was there to watch the game.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Snokitty on February 14, 2013, 01:58:58 am
http://www.newmyroyals.com/2013/02/prince-carl-philip-and-sofia-hellqvist_14.html


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on March 01, 2013, 09:08:16 pm
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article16339646.ab

ugh


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on March 02, 2013, 08:28:04 am
So he sees a future with her... :-X


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on April 14, 2013, 03:09:53 pm
this idiot is going to marry her

http://www.bunte.de/royals/carl-philip-von-schweden-er-hat-sofias-eltern-in-sein-herz-geschlossen-_aid_39942.html

with the parents of Sofia


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on April 14, 2013, 10:34:13 pm
Yup, I think it's a done deal they are just waiting for Maddy's wedding and then probably an announcement will be made for Pr.Carl.  :bored:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: D.I.R. on April 15, 2013, 02:41:47 am
I remember writing sometime back that i wouldn't be surprise if he married her, before he made it more public or official with her.

When I was writing that post I had when not if because I was unsure how y'all would take it.
But I edited myself and took off the when and put in the if than posted it.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on April 15, 2013, 03:43:11 am
His ex girlfriend must be wondering what the......?

She hung in there for years, the sisters liked her, he dated her forever.

Now he's totally sprung on Sofia. He is totally in love with her from all I've read. He is besotted.  :flirt:


One good thing , if  a fight breaks out around him, Sofia can protect him.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: D.I.R. on April 15, 2013, 04:03:40 am
 :tehe:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 15, 2013, 04:27:48 am
So when do the Swedes tip into full blown revolution over this?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on April 15, 2013, 07:45:17 am
They have a wonderful future Queen in Crown Princess Victoria, so they probably won't revolt since Carl Phillip won't be King anyway. They'll just grumble a bit and wait for the wedding when Sofia will become a Princess or Duchess or Countess.   :o



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 15, 2013, 07:52:58 am
What about Friso? He was made to give up his title and standing and frankly the same should be for CP.



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on April 15, 2013, 05:46:01 pm
Friso had to give up his rights because his future wife lied to parliament. What they would have decided if they had known all her life it's a very big what if.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 15, 2013, 06:03:34 pm
I know men think that Sofia's type are harmless fun loving butterballs, but really, this isn't something that happened while she was a ditz, but this is a lifestyle.

If only for the sake of decent women, THANK GOD FOR CAREERS!

This way nice girls don't get stuck with nothing while tarts end up getting the rings and security.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on April 15, 2013, 07:10:00 pm
Sadly the nice girls out there these days are made to defend themselves. I was reading about a girl in University first year who said she constantly had to defend to her friends why she remains a virgin and won't do sexting on her phone to guys, when the other girls were doing it.  It's sad that these Princes have downgraded their positions so much by choosing some of these women, who would have never made the cut to join a royal house in years past. I shudder when I look at the line-up of some of future Queen Consorts and new spouses to be (and their families) coming into some of these Royal houses..

Sofia is being compared to Carl Phillips mom by her pr in the Scandanavian press I saw last year when I was in Norway. I think that is how they are trying to sell her, as the commoner-stunner, who captured the Prince's heart, but EVERYONE knows and remembers her tacky time on tv. When I was in Norway, one weekend I was watching some show on tv and they re-ran Sofia's appearance on some reality show. I wasn't sure if it was her at first, but I looked at her face and the girl was definately her from some tv appearance years before. Very tacky girl.  :bored:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 15, 2013, 09:08:16 pm
It gets tiring seeing tarts get the rings and the respect.

As for downgrading, these princes tear everyone around them down to raise these harlots.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on April 16, 2013, 05:00:07 pm
I do think that noone should have sex just because everyone else have sex. And I do think that girls having a lot of sex should not have to make excuses for themselves.

But Sofia is in a whole other league. People that are in reality shows are young people that are desperately grasping for a future, knowing that they do not have any intellectual skills. Sorry I do not want to sound rude towards these realitypeople. But Sofia is taking all this to a whole other level when she appears in photos wearing nothing but high heels. In my book this is just showing the whole world that she is without any intelligens what so ever. I'm not a puritan - but what is the purpose of doing these nude photos???

Sofia must be so stupid and so must Carl Philip for being able to have a conversation with her.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on April 16, 2013, 06:58:00 pm


She knew what sexual buttons to push in this prince to get in his life (a bit like Kate when William's eyes went our like stalks seeing her model the see through underwear thing) and possibly get herself to the alter.

Some of these Princes are thinking with different parts of their bodies, not their heads.  It's another Prince taken-in by a woman on the make,using her body, with dreams of titles and tiaras. 
We are thinking like people who want a decent respected partner for marriage,BUT these Princes aren't.  Some of these Princes once in the sack with (some) of their choices, only see these women through rose-colored glasses and nothing will change their minds, no one can talk sense into them.  I think that's why the Palaces give up today , sadly.
 In England when the Palace pushed the situation and told the Prince the woman(Wallis Simpson) or the Throne, thank god he left (abdicated). I don't know why the modern Royal families don't play more hardball with these Princes and threaten to cut them off.  :angry:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Snokitty on April 16, 2013, 07:02:13 pm
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Some of these Princes are thinking with different parts of their bodies, not their heads.

I thought it was that they were using the wrong head to think with.   :laugh:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 16, 2013, 08:23:14 pm
She knew what sexual buttons to push in this prince to get in his life (a bit like Kate when William's eyes went our like stalks seeing her model the see through underwear thing) and possibly get herself to the alter.

Some of these Princes are thinking with different parts of their bodies, not their heads.  It's another Prince taken-in by a woman on the make,using her body, with dreams of titles and tiaras. 
We are thinking like people who want a decent respected partner for marriage,BUT these Princes aren't.  Some of these Princes once in the sack with (some) of their choices, only see these women through rose-colored glasses and nothing will change their minds, no one can talk sense into them.  I think that's why the Palaces give up today , sadly.

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Times like this I understand why marriages were arranged and princes were told to marry someone.

I don't know why the modern Royal families don't play more hardball with these Princes and threaten to cut them off.

For some reason the palaces are afraid of bad PR, looking like snobs. For some reason as well, these princes don't just walk away, they instead demand it both ways.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: tequiero on May 14, 2013, 04:05:17 pm
Prince Carl Philip Celebrates 34th birthday

http://www.newmyroyals.com/2013/05/prince-carl-philip-celebrates-34th.html


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on May 14, 2013, 05:28:21 pm
 :wopedo:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on May 15, 2013, 01:44:27 pm
She knew what sexual buttons to push in this prince to get in his life (a bit like Kate when William's eyes went our like stalks seeing her model the see through underwear thing) and possibly get herself to the alter.

Some of these Princes are thinking with different parts of their bodies, not their heads.  It's another Prince taken-in by a woman on the make,using her body, with dreams of titles and tiaras.  
We are thinking like people who want a decent respected partner for marriage,BUT these Princes aren't.  Some of these Princes once in the sack with (some) of their choices, only see these women through rose-colored glasses and nothing will change their minds, no one can talk sense into them.  I think that's why the Palaces give up today , sadly.

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Times like this I understand why marriages were arranged and princes were told to marry someone.

I don't know why the modern Royal families don't play more hardball with these Princes and threaten to cut them off.

For some reason the palaces are afraid of bad PR, looking like snobs. For some reason as well, these princes don't just walk away, they instead demand it both ways.

 :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Princess Alucard on May 19, 2013, 08:48:02 pm
They must be engaged because she's now in the official family pictures and website   :o



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on May 20, 2013, 08:23:11 am
Yes, she's already in. They are probably already secretly engaged :-X


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on May 20, 2013, 11:58:12 am
Yup, probably waiting until after his sister's wedding to announce it.  :o :o :o


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on May 20, 2013, 04:01:25 pm
yep marriage is the next step  :ick:

her grin is worse than waity's


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on May 20, 2013, 07:16:04 pm
She's awful.  :bored:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 20, 2013, 09:14:56 pm
yep marriage is the next step  :ick:

her grin is worse than waity's

The next time someone suggests that their monarchy is better than the US political system, I'll ask them if they understand that someone like Sofia might be supported on welfare, but not as a First Lady warranting Secret Service protection.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: tequiero on May 25, 2013, 10:13:46 pm
Prince Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist at the courtyard of the Royal Palace on Friday, with their dog Siri.

http://www.newmyroyals.com/2013/05/prince-carl-philip-and-sofia-hellqvist.html


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Duchess Georgiana on May 26, 2013, 05:16:18 am
I might come across as a superficial person but this Sofia girl needs to have her teeth fixed as she's in the public eye. I also wonder when she marries CP and her official profile is added to the Royal Family website, if they are going to mention her gig posing naked with a snake covering her private parts. Well, I think since Prince Haakon, future King of Norway has been allowed to marry a woman who had a child out of wedlock and drug problems, anything is possible. Nope, I don't think Mette-Marit has what it takes to be Queen, sorry. But unfortunately, royalty is no longer the same. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with Princes marrying commoners but some went too far. Keeping up with a little tradition doesn't hurt. Kudos to Hereditary Grand Duke Guillaume of Luxembourg for marrying an aristocrat with an impeccable resumé.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on June 07, 2013, 03:15:17 pm
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Ella Kay‏@royaltywithella
Prince Carl Philip’s girlfriend, Sofia Hellqvist, is also on the guest list.

twitter


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 07, 2013, 09:49:58 pm
I might come across as a superficial person but this Sofia girl needs to have her teeth fixed as she's in the public eye. I also wonder when she marries CP and her official profile is added to the Royal Family website, if they are going to mention her gig posing naked with a snake covering her private parts. Well, I think since Prince Haakon, future King of Norway has been allowed to marry a woman who had a child out of wedlock and drug problems, anything is possible. Nope, I don't think Mette-Marit has what it takes to be Queen, sorry. But unfortunately, royalty is no longer the same. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with Princes marrying commoners but some went too far. Keeping up with a little tradition doesn't hurt. Kudos to Hereditary Grand Duke Guillaume of Luxembourg for marrying an aristocrat with an impeccable resumé.

It's goign to take someone of the level of Goebbels to make Sofia look good!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on June 07, 2013, 11:15:01 pm
She's in high heaven this weekend, invited to the Royal wedding, knowing Carl Phillip will make her his bride probably... :o :o

I wonder how the Palace will handle a title for Sofia? Maybe they'll make her say she doesn't want a title.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Duchess Georgiana on June 09, 2013, 01:36:35 am
Serene Grace, unfortunately my gut feeling tells me this woman is going to become the next Princess of Sweden. Ugh! I wonder what the Swedes are going to think about CP's choice. But I guess he doesn't care. This is a wedding I won't be watching  :thumbsdown:

Royalty and traditions are going downhill  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on June 09, 2013, 11:26:38 am
Yup, she has that same look Kate had when she showed up at the Aristo Wedding w PW secretly engaged. Sofia knows she's next. IMO.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: berlin on June 09, 2013, 02:22:20 pm
I refuse to watch this wedding.  What a farce that will be-IF it is to happen.  I have a tiny bit of hope that it won't.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on June 09, 2013, 02:25:32 pm
^^ Same. If she wears the cameos tiara and the old veil I may even be tempted to go and set fire to the royal palace or something   :bat: :bat:

But it's pretty sure they are marrying next year  :wopedo: :bored: :Kate:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on June 09, 2013, 02:43:18 pm
What's the lowest title they have to give her, IF Pr.Carl Phillip insists?  :bored:

Yup a marriage probably next summer, not on the level of Maddies but something quite spectacular for the snake girl.  :Kate:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on June 09, 2013, 02:46:59 pm
If they marry she is going to be a princess! I very much doubt that Carl Gustaf is going to make his adored son renounce his rights. So as he is prince SnakeG will be a princess.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on June 09, 2013, 03:08:33 pm
What's the lowest title they have to give her, IF Pr.Carl Phillip insists?  :bored:

Yup a marriage probably next summer, not on the level of Maddies but something quite spectacular for the snake girl.  :Kate:

Sadly the wedding have to be at the same level at least as Madeleines, because Carl Philip is the second child.

I was thinking that Carl Philip looked quite in serious thoughts at the church. As if he pictured his own wedding and couldn't picture snake girl there. Perhaps wishfull thinking on my part.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on June 09, 2013, 03:19:08 pm
He's all in already. He's grown the beard (ala PW)
Sofia is at his sister's wedding grinning from ear to ear. (Reminding me of Kate at that wedding where she was secretly engaged.)

The snake woman has landed the Prince.

The Palace has probably been put on notice to expect a Christmas engagement, so everyone can rejoice in Prince Carl's happiness.  :bored:

Sofia looked like she was already deciding what floral arrangements she'd like and how long she wants her train. It's already a done deal, imo.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 14, 2013, 08:25:10 pm
WILL GLAMOR MODEL BECOME GLAMOR PRINCESS?

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Sofia has led a checkered life, filled with an unconventionally unorthodox lifestyle before she met Prince Carl Philip and settled into a life of charity, taking vacations with him, and recently attending royal events on his arm.

http://dianewriter.wordpress.com/2013/07/14/will-longtime-girlfriend-of-prince-carl-philip-sofia-hellqvist-become-duchess-of-varmland/


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Elise Von Blah on August 26, 2013, 03:10:41 am
Does anyone else but me think she isn't very attractive? I mean, she's low class in every way, but I also think she has an unattractive face too. And her hair colour is too dark for her. I assume it isn't real.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: terrajoule on August 26, 2013, 03:22:36 am
smh.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Nighthawk on August 26, 2013, 03:23:25 am
her looks are ok, I honestly don't find her attractive but it's her actions IMO that makes her trashy although trashy women for the royals seem to be the "in thing" to do


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: sassafras on August 30, 2013, 11:02:36 pm
Are they even close to an engagement?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Venus De Milo on August 31, 2013, 08:04:08 pm
I just read yesterday in the danish gossip mag Billed-Bladet, that Carl & Sofia have been visiting different churches to find a perfect location for their wedding. I don't know if it is true.
The fact that there even is the slightest chance that a women like Sofia can marry into the Swedish RF, is a travesty and a complete joke, the Swedish RF should be a global laughing stock
Just watching her grining face at Madeleines wedding made me sick to the back of my teeth.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Countess of Holland on August 31, 2013, 08:34:51 pm
I think Sofia will fit right in with the jet-setting Swedish RF. Let's be fair, there isn't much royal behaviour left there.

The King frequenting strips clubs, the Queen being a fixed patient of plastic surgeons and addicted to botox, Victoria who didn't even graduate from university and has been wasting taxpayers money by attending Yale for two years without finishing anything. Then she got married to her personal trainer (how very Madonna of her) and since the birth of Estelle, Victoria has been on maternity leave ever since with only a few visits now and then. Estelle is a year and a half already!
Carl Philip dates the snake woman and Madeleine has joined the jet-setting crowd of NYC if the American guests for the wedding are anything to go by.

For the life of me, I really don't understand that they are popular. If Victoria would be a royal in-law like WK, she would be slaughtered as well, and with good reason. But because she is royal and a woman, her inactions and lack of work-ethic are being ignored.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Venus De Milo on August 31, 2013, 09:00:53 pm
Point taken, and I somewhat agree with you.
The fact is that a marriage between Carl and Sofia will end any royal pretence that the Swedish RF has, it will be a nail in the coffin for sure.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on August 31, 2013, 09:07:00 pm
I've been living in Norway off and on, for the past year and I only hear good things about Crown Princess Victoria , how the people adore her and what a wonderful Queen she will make. It's the opposite with Mette Marit, the press is not so kind to her.   ???



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Venus De Milo on August 31, 2013, 09:17:31 pm
That's very much the same impression I get when I'm there. My brother lives in Sweden and I visit often. He to says that Victoria is adored by the public, and that many would like Carl Gustav to abdicate in favour of his daughter, the press coverage of her is also fawning.
That said, when looking at the facts about the Swedish RF, Countess of Hollands points remain very valid.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on August 31, 2013, 09:41:07 pm
True.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: berlin on September 07, 2013, 04:03:20 am
All the positive press that the SRF has received in British and American news media will go down the drain if these two dodos get engaged.  Just imagine the porn princess headlines.  How sad.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 07, 2013, 06:12:02 am
The sugars have gone insane; they go on and on and on about how love is all that matters and the Swedes will be letting in a woman who makes Waity look classy. There is no way the Swedish RF will live this down if they don't make CP renounce his place in the succession and the RF. Frankly I am tired of reading about 'fairytales'. I am so shocked that this is a woman that will end up living in a palace, staff, tiaras, possible church wedding, and all the regal trimmings all the while the people will be expected to cheer.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Venus De Milo on September 07, 2013, 06:28:13 am
Totally agree.
I know this might sound extreme but she literally disgusts me, when I saw her ugly grinning face at Madeleine's wedding I feelt sick to the back of my teeth.
I she becomes a Princess it will be a slap in the face to every subject in Sweden.
I have for a very long time been dismayed about royals marrying middle class commoners, Lazy *lowlife*'s, personal trainer's, single mothers and what have you not, but Sofia is just one step to far.
She is a porn Princess come true. :NOwhy:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 07, 2013, 07:25:47 am
Women like Letizia, Mette, Mary, are automatically saints because they are commoners, not nasty evil aristocrats or born princesses from dethroned houses ('cause you know how titled people are incapable of loving their children) and even if they come with baggage enough to fill an airport, what matters the most is that they are commoners. All that matters is that hte prince is happy, in love, even if it means degrading a nation and the reputation/standards/lineage of families thousands of years old. What makes it worse, is that everyone uses the Charles/Diana saga as some 'get out of jail free' card towards avoidance in marrying anyone in the aristocracy or dethroned royalty, as if lineage was the only sole reason that the marriage failed. A marriage failed almost over a decade ago and it's still used. There are a lot of commoners baggage free, but princes can't seem to find them.

Second, there are royals from dethroned houses treated as nonentities by reigning families, as if they are worth nothing now that they aren't reigning. As if they don't exist and aren't worth their notice. It's no longer a fairytale or refreshing that a prince marries a commoner and I swear, it's practically now required that royals marry a commoner. I'm tired of hearing the same old apologies for a past that isn't excusable or seeing the fake heartrending expressions of women who threw away opportunities for a decent life. I am tired of seeing princesses date and want to marry jerk-wad guys who engage in shady business to support them in regal style, despite the fact that making their own living is possible. You know, I don't even think a lot of these commoners love them. Leti left her first husband and until she met Haakon, Mette wasn't living the commitment lifestyle.

Meanwhile all those nasty career women are making their honest way in the world and those beyotch princesses are doing charity work and making a living. So much nastier than those saintly holy women who are nice and don't do nasty things like make an honest living and support  their men to their hotel rooms or around the world like a groupie. Y'know, bein' there for their mayun. Funny how they're never around after the marriage. Suddenly they go all global/humanitarian.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Venus De Milo on September 07, 2013, 08:58:03 am
What an utterly brilliant comment.
And you are right, a prince today is almost compelled to marry a grasping middle class women.
It's a slap in the face to us subjects in a monarchy. Call me a snob but I will not curtsy to the butchers daughter. Period.
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. What makes it worse, is that everyone uses the Charles/Diana saga as some 'get out of jail free' card towards avoidance in marrying anyone in the aristocracy or dethroned royalty, as if lineage was the only sole reason that the marriage failed.
Very true, and royals used to marry their equals, not just because of lineage, but also to avoid exactly what is happening now, namely the monarchy being swamped by gold diggers, who are only in it for the glamour and the prestige and giving out perks to their family members.
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You know, I don't even think a lot of these commoners love them. Leti left her first husband and until she met Haakon, Mette wasn't living the commitment lifestyle.
Of course they don't love them, these grasping women were hunting for titles and wealth, now that they have achieved that it's all about promoting themselves.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on September 07, 2013, 09:02:57 am
Women like Letizia, Mette, Mary, are automatically saints because they are commoners, not nasty evil aristocrats or born princesses from dethroned houses ('cause you know how titled people are incapable of loving their children) and even if they come with baggage enough to fill an airport, what matters the most is that they are commoners. All that matters is that hte prince is happy, in love, even if it means degrading a nation and the reputation/standards/lineage of families thousands of years old. What makes it worse, is that everyone uses the Charles/Diana saga as some 'get out of jail free' card towards avoidance in marrying anyone in the aristocracy or dethroned royalty, as if lineage was the only sole reason that the marriage failed. A marriage failed almost over a decade ago and it's still used. There are a lot of commoners baggage free, but princes can't seem to find them.

Second, there are royals from dethroned houses treated as nonentities by reigning families, as if they are worth nothing now that they aren't reigning. As if they don't exist and aren't worth their notice. It's no longer a fairytale or refreshing that a prince marries a commoner and I swear, it's practically now required that royals marry a commoner. I'm tired of hearing the same old apologies for a past that isn't excusable or seeing the fake heartrending expressions of women who threw away opportunities for a decent life. I am tired of seeing princesses date and want to marry jerk-wad guys who engage in shady business to support them in regal style, despite the fact that making their own living is possible. You know, I don't even think a lot of these commoners love them. Leti left her first husband and until she met Haakon, Mette wasn't living the commitment lifestyle.

Meanwhile all those nasty career women are making their honest way in the world and those beyotch princesses are doing charity work and making a living. So much nastier than those saintly holy women who are nice and don't do nasty things like make an honest living and support  their men to their hotel rooms or around the world like a groupie. Y'know, bein' there for their mayun. Funny how they're never around after the marriage. Suddenly they go all global/humanitarian.

 :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 07, 2013, 09:43:16 am
Thanks.

I've been meaning to say a lot of this for a very long time.

I for one am sick and tired of hearing about Diana, how royal lineage automatically means that the kids will be deformed inbred hogs, how the class system oppressive to people is being reinforced every time a prince might have an interest in a titled aristocrat. It's not the lineage that makes someone behave a certain way.

As for behavior, I don't see many of these commoners behaving very well. Letizia acts like an adolescent, Mette is more interested in luxury travel than her own country, Mary isn't focused all that much on her children, Victoria stupidly set the precedent when she said "Everyone should marry who they love" and the Spanish princesses (Infantas) apparently (along with Madeleine admittedly) have no clue how to find decent men who do work hard, who can't see through a good 'act' if they tried.

Until they were required to clean up their image to be accepted, these former commoners didn't seem ashamed of their lives and didn't care about their reputations. Now all of a sudden they are determinedly groveling and then wear a spanky fresh white dress to go with their full nuptial mass wedding ceremony. Acting like they are truly repentant.

A couple years later, they are jet setting around for African initiatives and ignoring the people that pay their bills. Talking about how stressful it is adjusting to the spotlight and how restricted their lives are (how they are I do not know) and how they can't always be there for the men they supposedly loved and wanted to be there for. Letizia is the only one that is ever there, but that's mainly because Felipe and the Court make it clear that is where her place is. I'm sure she would be overseas if she could be for UN stuff.

You know, because there are so many causes to support and (luxury) places to do.

There are limits and if this line is crossed, it'll only be a matter of time until the SRF is informed that they should start making plans to move to a new country. Rightly. I am sick of seeing a lot of honest hardworking people work to support these families and are stuck being treated as inferiors/spectators to a lifestyle that these *fools* take for granted. If they do marry, at least let them have a quiet ceremony. This isn't about lifestyle, this is about choices.

Women who choose to pose and do stuff like this are deeply disturbed people and often have no ability to control themselves in any situation. Sofia is possibly very volatile and I think CP might be giving her concessions because she throws a fit, he gives in, and then ends up causing more friction. Women who sometimes go into that industry do so out of desperation and other situations. I don't think Sofia was desperate, but there's something broken inside of her that can't be fixed.

I am dead sure the minute Sofia is married she'll be leaving CP on his own more often because she'll be bullying her way onto a UN (which is now a joke) committee and committing herself to some fashionable cause and flying all around the planet making speeches and meeting heads of state (whose wives will be forced to make nice with them) and making an uneducated fool of herself on the world stage and a lot of heads of state will be screamed at by their wives for forcing their wives to accept Sofia as an equal.

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And you are right, a prince today is almost compelled to marry a grasping middle class women.

Tell me about it; look at how King Philippe married Mathilde and ended up causing shrieks about how it was going to fail or be a mess. Look at how CP Guillaume married an aristocrat and people bash her about how boring she is and how she is so plain and how elitist it was for a prince to marry a countess. It never ends. It's like there's some sort of thing about middle class women, as if they are holy persecuted saints; most aristocrats still grow up with a lot of restrictions on their movements and lifestyle. A lot of aristocratic and upper class women used to be guaranteed a good husband in exchange for a restricted, virtuous life. One of the few rewards of social position.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Snokitty on September 07, 2013, 09:50:23 am
Take a real good look at the Prince that has married these women and there is the problem. It is not about having a title or not. I have seen some classy women who don't have titles and I have seen some titled women who have no class. A decent man will go for decency.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Venus De Milo on September 07, 2013, 10:20:19 am
Yes.... I guess you are right about that to.
Our Crown Prince Frederik here in Denmark is absolutely feckless and a complete idiot, he was an easy prey for ambitious Mary.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on September 07, 2013, 04:28:18 pm
Venus, please.

"Grassping middleclass women".... :tehe:

I acknowledge in other parts of the world people might think there is an ambition behind marrying out of ones "class".

But really. CP Frederik is not a victim nor a fool because he married a woman from the middle class.

CP Frederik would be a a fool marrying a woman without any substance. Par example a woman without any ability to educate herself or without any ability to maintain a job outside the family firm as par example LAzy Katy.

And a woman from nobility is not better nor worse in that aspect than any other women.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 07, 2013, 11:20:58 pm
Take a real good look at the Prince that has married these women and there is the problem. It is not about having a title or not. I have seen some classy women who don't have titles and I have seen some titled women who have no class. A decent man will go for decency.

This is besides the point; I get it that aristocrats don't always have class. I'm getting tired of people pointing out that aristocratic women have their issues, as if that automatically makes everyone equal and makes what the commoner women do okay and valid. The stuff Mette and Sofia do are not valid.

At least a titled type has her business behind closed doors and I don't believe for five minutes that as of late, it's the aristocrats who are causing the majority of the problems in the royal houses these days. These days it's the common commoners that these princes get mixed up with.

The point is, that lately princes are choosing women that would in other days end up not at all on the radar.

Aristocrats don't have a monopoly on low behavior and it's this very stereotype that justifies women like Mette and Letizia and Mary. Aristocrats bring interesting lineage and as far as I can see, don't bring chaos and drama and a lot of trouble into the lives of their husbands.

Letizia looks like she's always on the verge of having a break from reality, Mette is busy running around the planet to couture shows, Mary is making a complete idiot out of herself in Africa while drowning in Prada, who isn't even a Danish designer, while a newly minted princess named Sofia is close to breaking the Swedish RF completely.

Meanwhile the courtiers, who are aristocrats and dedicate themselves to keeping the royal houses going are snubbed/bypassed in favor of these dipwits and actually have to defer to their orders and instructions. I cannot imagine how GALLING that is to a lot of these aristocrats who themselves have royal lineage to have to bow and scrape to these types.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Venus De Milo on September 08, 2013, 12:22:19 am
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I cannot imagine how GALLING that is to a lot of these aristocrats who themselves have royal lineage to have to bow and scrape to these types.
They are Not just forced to bow and scrape to these leechers, they are also smeared in the press as snobs if they don't.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Venus De Milo on September 08, 2013, 12:45:05 am
Venus, please.

"Grassping middleclass women".... :tehe:

I acknowledge in other parts of the world people might think there is an ambition behind marrying out of ones "class".

But really. CP Frederik is not a victim nor a fool because he married a woman from the middle class.

CP Frederik would be a a fool marrying a woman without any substance. Par example a woman without any ability to educate herself or without any ability to maintain a job outside the family firm as par example LAzy Katy.

And a woman from nobility is not better nor worse in that aspect than any other women.
Dear HC
I have nothing against people marrying outside of their class, and it is of course not always ambition that is behind it. I would not have minded if Frederik had married a decent middle class girl.
The fact is that he married Mary Donaldson a gold digger of massive proportions.
I'm not going to argue with you about the danish RF, it is clear that you adore Mary & Frederik and I can't stand them. So when I'm commenting about the Danish RF I prefer Royal Dish.

Good night :flower:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Countess of Holland on September 08, 2013, 08:29:07 am
What annoys me most in the debate about princes marrying commoners is that people say that it was unfair for the princes in days gone by that they were forced to marry within their own circle. But they forget that until the early 20th century, that was the norm for everyone in society.

If I just look at my own ancestors... my greatgrandmother married my greatgrandfather because their fathers were partners in a law-firm and thought it best to  have their off-spring marry eachother. Another greatgrandmother was the daughter of a professor and she married one of the students of her father who would later become her fathers assistant at the university.
Marrying within your own sphere was normal and often family interests played a role; a farmer with only daughters often sought a younger son of a neighbour (farmer) to marry the eldest daughter so that the farm would continue. And I think that especially in rural parts of Europe this is still happening.

But these sad princes should be allowed to marry anyone they want. Now I don't think that all middle class women are golddiggers but the fact that most of the European princes got married to low-achievers (Mette-Marit, Kate) who didn't have their own career and weren't able to stand on their own two feet, makes them vulnerable for these stories and accusations.
I don't think Maxima was ever accused of gold-digging but she had a high-flying career in NYC at Deutsche Bank. Now the Dutch RF have embellished the truth a bit about her family, portraying her as upper class while she is upper middle class at best (her father was a customs officer...not the kind of position one would expect for someone of the upper class). But her career makes it clear that she was able to make it on her own.

And embelleshing the background of royal marriage partners has happened before. Crown Princess Mary comes to mind, as well as the education of Princess Marie and of course the background of Chris O'Neill who isn't part of the absolute upper class of New York. If he had been, we would have seen different US guests for his wedding.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Snokitty on September 08, 2013, 08:33:45 am
Take a real good look at the Prince that has married these women and there is the problem. It is not about having a title or not. I have seen some classy women who don't have titles and I have seen some titled women who have no class. A decent man will go for decency.

This is besides the point; I get it that aristocrats don't always have class. I'm getting tired of people pointing out that aristocratic women have their issues, as if that automatically makes everyone equal and makes what the commoner women do okay and valid. The stuff Mette and Sofia do are not valid.

At least a titled type has her business behind closed doors and I don't believe for five minutes that as of late, it's the aristocrats who are causing the majority of the problems in the royal houses these days. These days it's the common commoners that these princes get mixed up with.

The point is, that lately princes are choosing women that would in other days end up not at all on the radar.

Aristocrats don't have a monopoly on low behavior and it's this very stereotype that justifies women like Mette and Letizia and Mary. Aristocrats bring interesting lineage and as far as I can see, don't bring chaos and drama and a lot of trouble into the lives of their husbands.

Letizia looks like she's always on the verge of having a break from reality, Mette is busy running around the planet to couture shows, Mary is making a complete idiot out of herself in Africa while drowning in Prada, who isn't even a Danish designer, while a newly minted princess named Sofia is close to breaking the Swedish RF completely.

Meanwhile the courtiers, who are aristocrats and dedicate themselves to keeping the royal houses going are snubbed/bypassed in favor of these dipwits and actually have to defer to their orders and instructions. I cannot imagine how GALLING that is to a lot of these aristocrats who themselves have royal lineage to have to bow and scrape to these types.

Everyone is equal in my eyes and if all one does is party and jet around from holiday to holiday whether one has a title or not then they are unproductive members of society. An unproductive member of society is a drain on resources that could be used for the productive members. Having a work ethic is important to me and whether titled or not it is about the individual.

Some of these married in commoners do more royal duties than their royal Princes do.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 08, 2013, 09:32:03 am
What is going to gall the most, is that Emma, CP's ex, will have to show Sofia deference along with every other single aristocratic and society woman in the nation. Sofia is a royal version of a groupie camp following floozy. Meanwhile, decent women who lived solid lives of honesty and hard work at honest jobs will have to, to a certain extent, accept Sofia's dictates in certain areas where a princess, wife of CP, would have sway by right of marriage. I think that is the worst problem these days with CP and other princes marrying irresponsibly; these newly minted princesses have no problem running not just their own lives, but that of the lives (social and work) of their husbands as well. Then the princes are sure to put everyone in their place, all the while it's their wives that need to learn their place.

I honestly think Sofia will be merrily eager to tell everyone how to run their lives and I wager it's only a matter of time until she gets herself into some social drama.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on September 08, 2013, 11:54:37 am
Venus, please.

"Grassping middleclass women".... :tehe:

I acknowledge in other parts of the world people might think there is an ambition behind marrying out of ones "class".

But really. CP Frederik is not a victim nor a fool because he married a woman from the middle class.

CP Frederik would be a a fool marrying a woman without any substance. Par example a woman without any ability to educate herself or without any ability to maintain a job outside the family firm as par example LAzy Katy.

And a woman from nobility is not better nor worse in that aspect than any other women.
Dear HC
I have nothing against people marrying outside of their class, and it is of course not always ambition that is behind it. I would not have minded if Frederik had married a decent middle class girl.
The fact is that he married Mary Donaldson a gold digger of massive proportions.
I'm not going to argue with you about the danish RF, it is clear that you adore Mary & Frederik and I can't stand them. So when I'm commenting about the Danish RF I prefer Royal Dish.

Good night :flower:

Venus,
I'm happy You don't mind people marrying outside their class. Then we don't have to send You back in timetravel to 1800  :flower:

I acknowledge there is such a thing as golddigging.
But I have to think Charlene and Whats his name. They are an odd match. He really has to have a nice personality to make up for being too old and too ugly for her.

As much as I dislike Sofia she is not that obvious a golddigger as Charlene. At least Carl is not butt ugly. Sofia is trashier than Charlene but that is still not the same as the golddiggery that I see from the Charlene match.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Venus De Milo on September 08, 2013, 12:58:04 pm
Oh....I'm still in principle against royals marrying outside their class, it undermines the entire institution, it's complete suicide.
I agree that Albert and Charlene are an odd couple, I'm not entirely sure that she's a gold digge though, she looked so misrable on her wedding day, not at all like she wanted to get married.
I don't know whether Sofia is a gold digger I doubt it, but she is just such an inappropriate royal bride, even if she were an aristocrat, that it is unimaginable that this marriage should go ahead.



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Snowpea on September 21, 2013, 03:29:36 pm
Some of these royal brides, it's like they got married accidently and whoops, look at me, what do I do now? They were coasting through life, not doing or even trying to do anything meaningful or worthwhile, and they just happened to meet up with these Princes who would have them. Not very wise or smart decisions but what can you do?
They are supposed to represent a country, yet consider the pasts on some of them. Now, they are marketed as refreshing and modern and we are supposed to buy it.  :ick:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 22, 2013, 08:34:09 am
^Exactly; they coasted idly through life, leeched, partied, boozed, lived off the public teet, and landed a prince. Kate epitomizes it really, all these women are pretty much the epitome of various facets of Kate and I don't see how on holy earth these women deserved the title, no matter how much the prince is a *fool*. The one thing I am glad of, is how Letizia is kept wiht her husband, where all the other princesses are supposed to be and yet, they aren't. Mette at fashion shows, Mary raiding Prada, the rest, nothing of note. Charlene spends more of her time in South Africa than Monaco (and apparently hasn't learned French) and I have no idea how on earth the established aristocracy has managed to avoid outright screaming matches with the royal family members.

I wonder just how much more the people in Sweden are expected to put up with; these Scandinavian monarchies are going above and beyond the pale and I think telling the public to suck it up is taking this whole thing one step too far and the aristocracy shouldn't be expected to put up with what will be an unprecedented slap in the face to them.

There are limits, there have to be limits, and this is a point where limits have to be set. Let CP go off in the sunset with his bikini babe, but don't let her represent the nation as a newly minted princess and diplomatically recognized head of state if she goes to international conventions.

Either way, there should be a consequence and condition either way. She has no business getting an "HRH" and if, despite Mabel's many accomplishments, Friso had to renounce his place in the succession to marry her, CP should be expected to renounce or lower his rank.

Why is it that the Swedes (along with every other nation with a monarchy) have to put up with these walking soap opera dramas in the form of women that these princes want to marry? Aren't there limits to what the taxpayers should have to pay for?

You know, the next time people bellyache about people on welfare, I'll make it a point to remind them (if I'm in Europe) that people on welfare don't live half as well as these 'fairytale princesses' and these princesses come from backgrounds that are just the same as those who whine about the behavior of people on welfare.

Another option would be that she is not a princess, but ends up being a Baroness and then be there only when CP is, no more and no less. No independent agenda, no personal crusades, no going off on jaunts to UN conventions/meetings and no meeting heads of state in her own right.

That woman will end up being a disgrace on the world stage and any idea of independent royal role should be squashed. Bluntly, I think a lot of these women married in have no business running around teh world as if they have something substantial to contribute on any actual realistic basis. Decent women have no business being forced to receive her.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on September 22, 2013, 11:00:55 am
The issue I have with most of the Royal houses in Europe and Britain is that since the failure of the Wales marriage the Monarchs allow these questionable women to marry their son's, when the son's start stamping their feet threatening to step down as Pr. Felipe of Spain reportedly did or calling the Monarchies snobs(as Kate and her family used in the press) IMO The Palaces should have been tougher on these CrownPrinces and not just allowed anyone to be brought home, Now we have Pr. Carl Phillp wanting to marry Sofia.  When is this nonsense Going to stop?

Oh....I'm still in principle against royals marrying outside their class, it undermines the entire institution, it's complete suicide.
I agree that Albert and Charlene are an odd couple, I'm not entirely sure that she's a gold digge though, she looked so misrable on her wedding day, not at all like she wanted to get married.
I don't know whether Sofia is a gold digger I doubt it, but she is just such an inappropriate royal bride, even if she were an aristocrat, that it is unimaginable that this marriage should go ahead.
   

I agree Venus de M.  Iʻve folllowed Charlene and She has been working hard on Charities in Monaco , I donʻt a hard gdigger vibe from her.  Also its not true that She spends most of her time in SA.  She has been there a couple times for her charities and a couple times with Albert. I just think Monaco will always be a showbiz Principality, I think they seem to want to keep that image,its one of their attractions, imo Albert could have married a actress,singer and no one would have blinked;So a former athlete, Olympic competitor wasnt a shock imo, after all his scandals.                   

 


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on September 22, 2013, 05:07:10 pm
I think Sofia is slutty because she appears to like to expound upon her sexual prowess.

But I don't think Sofia is a golddigger. She don't seem to be a woman that cares more about a man's bank account than she does about the man. Carl Philip is a handsome man. He is not the brightest but then Sofia don't need an intelligent man. I suspect she would have choosen him even if he wasn't a prince.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 02, 2013, 06:25:11 pm
Will Soft Core Porn Model Become Soft Core Porn Princess? – Will Longtime Girlfriend of Prince Carl-Philip of Sweden Become Duchess of Varmland and a Princess of Sweden?

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With the marriage of his sister Princess Madeleine of Sweden to New York financier boyfriend Christopher O’ Neill, there are rumors flying about that the relationship between Carl-Philip and Sofia Hellqvist is about to be made official. Sofia has been eased into increasingly serious and exclusive royal functions and has attended the christening of Crown Princess Victoria’s daughter (Princess Estelle) and the funeral of Princess Lillian as a member of the royal party. Before the wedding, during the engagement appearances, she attended the banns ceremony for Princess Madeleine.

http://royalgossippsychotic.wordpress.com/2013/10/02/will-glamour-model-become-glamour-princess-will-longtime-girlfriend-of-prince-carl-philip-become-duchess-of-varmland-and-a-princess-of-sweden/#!

Enjoy.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: serene grace on October 02, 2013, 06:46:49 pm
 Love it KF. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 02, 2013, 07:00:34 pm
Thanks. I like making it a little more hardcore than the original and I enjoyed adding more to it.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: D.I.R. on October 02, 2013, 07:49:48 pm
Yeah, it was a great read KF.  :thumbsup:
But I just don't care about what kind of person these people marry anymore. If they don't have a High school diploma or has a Adult High school diploma, drop out of College or Uni, stripper, soft core porn to hard core, stalker & so on. It doesn't matter anymore.
For me now is that if they can provide for the house they marry into & continue providing an income for their future & the generations forth.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Polonia on October 02, 2013, 11:02:35 pm
Kuie Fei - another excellent and perceptive piece - well done!!!

Two thoughts struck me - first why are all these charities in Africa - are there NO needy people in Sweden??? are there NO problems to be solved in Sweden???  Is Sofia a soft porn version of Whimpo???

And secondly, what is wrong with the Swedish Royal Family - there are many and often beautiful Royal German Princesses who are Lutheran in religion plus there is a vast hinterland of Swedish, Danish, Dutch, English and German aristocrats to chose from as well as Russian Noblewomen of the Russian Orthodox faith etc etc 

If this marriage goes ahead it is quite possible that Sofia could end up being Queen - only Victoria and Estelle stand in her way.

And it should be remembered that for the first six months of his life, Carl was actually Crown Prince till they changed the succession laws - maybe this is a subconscious revenge on Carl's part - he lost his right to be Crown Prince and so he is now sabotaging the Monarchy!!!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on October 03, 2013, 07:41:56 am
If Carl Philip really wants to marry her  :-X then he should thanks God he is NOT The Crown Prince anymore. No way Sofia would be accepted as future Queen!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Venus De Milo on October 04, 2013, 06:53:01 am
Thank you Kuei Fei.....for so brilliantly expressing exactly how I feel in regards to this topic.  :flower:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 04, 2013, 01:26:27 pm
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And secondly, what is wrong with the Swedish Royal Family - there are many and often beautiful Royal German Princesses who are Lutheran in religion plus there is a vast hinterland of Swedish, Danish, Dutch, English and German aristocrats to chose from as well as Russian Noblewomen of the Russian Orthodox faith etc etc

The problem with the reigning royals is that they look down on the dethroned families and pretty much treat them like they're beneath notice or worth. They prefer (for some reason) to treat the dethroned families as if they are nonentities, just because they aren't running things. I find it disconcerting that the Swedish aristocrats are overlooked, but expected to defer to the dipwits that the royals marry and the public is supposed to not just put up with them, but LOVE them as much as the royal in question does.

I find it a kind of bitter irony too; if you look at the dethroned princesses, they knock the reigning royals out of the ballpark.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HC on October 05, 2013, 10:06:03 pm
I don't think any decent woman would hav anything to do with Carl Philip. His relationsship with Sofia is the living proof of his lack of substance.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 12, 2013, 08:37:42 am
Another horrendous part is how people kind of admire her for 'being there' for him, as if his life is filled with these burdens. It's easy for her to 'be there' when she isn't required to be anywhere else. It's galling that women like her get all righteous about it, yet go figure, she is essentially his mistress and I don't think she'll be interested in him after the wedding ring is on her finger. She'll be jet setting all over the place and he had better get used to staying home alone at night and learning abstinence.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 05, 2013, 04:58:07 am
Sofia Hellqvist om bussolyckan: Prinsen mår bra!

http://svenskdam.se/2013/12/sofia-hellqvist-om-bussolyckan-prinsen-mar-bra/


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 22, 2014, 02:37:07 pm
Prince Carl Philip and Sofia gets engaged?


Sofia Hellqvist has taken the leap into the royal family and now awaits engagement? That's now or never ...

The starting gun has gone for a new Royal years and it is guaranteed to be as eventful as the last. Swedish people will in all likelihood be involved in the near eklatering between Prince Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist.

https://translate.google.com.tr/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=tr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsvenskdam.se%2F2014%2F01%2Fprins-harry-stottar-flickvannen-efter-dodsbeskedet%2F&act=url


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 22, 2014, 07:26:53 pm
Oh how disgusting.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Nighthawk on January 27, 2014, 07:39:56 pm
Wedding bells for Prince Carl Philip of Sweden and Sofia Hellqvist
http://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2014012716713/prince-carl-philip-of-sweden-wedding-rumours/
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This could be a year of great celebrations in Sweden. According to new reports, an engagement is imminent between Prince Carl Philip and his girlfriend Sofia Hellqvist.

 The couple have been dating since 2010; a royal court spokesperson confirmed the romance in August of that year after months of speculation.

 An engagement would coincide with another happy royal event, the birth of Princess Madeleine's first baby. The little girl is due in February, eight months after Madeleine's wedding to financier Christopher O'Neill, with a christening to follow a few months later.

and I actually use to like this prince  :shy:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 27, 2014, 09:25:03 pm
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This could be a year of great celebrations in Sweden.

Could be a year of rioting in Sweden if this dip gets the ring; I'm dead sure the US tabloids will go nuts over this revelation and Howard Stern won't be able to stop himself.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: cate1949 on January 28, 2014, 02:34:21 am
poor Swedes - one princess in NYC and on the cover of Elle - the prince marrying of somewhat - dubious? - woman.  But Swedes are so liberated - it should not matter to them if their new RF member has a history as a porn star - LOL

Victoria must want to disinherit the lot of them sometimes.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: benign on January 28, 2014, 02:38:07 am
ahh s***. what is wrong with SRF? First Victoria marrying a trainer now Prince Carl marrying a porn star oh my...I am not sure about Princess Madeline but at least her husband can support her lifestyle and they seem to love each other.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Countess of Holland on January 28, 2014, 11:06:27 am
poor Swedes - one princess in NYC and on the cover of Elle - the prince marrying of somewhat - dubious? - woman.  But Swedes are so liberated - it should not matter to them if their new RF member has a history as a porn star - LOL

Victoria must want to disinherit the lot of them sometimes.

Victoria is hardly the one to throw stones. Marrying your personal trainer is more à la Hollywood than regal behaviour as far as I am concerned.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Nighthawk on January 28, 2014, 12:43:49 pm
oohhhh all I will say at least Victoria married a commoner that actually worked for a living unlike some of her relatives lol


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Countess of Holland on January 28, 2014, 03:17:58 pm
That is true, but Daniel isn't royal material. For starters he needed English lessons prior to the marriage because he couldn't speak the language. Keep in mind that all Swedish children have English from a very young age. Many years ago I was on a language course in Oxford during the summer and there were Swedish students (15-16-17 years of age) as well and like myself, they had English from the age of 10 in school.

And just imagine what many people would say if a prince would marry his trainer (or yoga-instructor)... The prince in question would be lynched! But for some reason Victoria comes away with it. This is one place where the double standards seem to benefit the woman.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Nighthawk on January 28, 2014, 04:00:22 pm
if I remember correctly people on the forums some of us were not pleased about this marriage Victoria had in mind...there were several of us that opposed it but our opinions do not matter to royals

as for Carl marrying a personal trainer in a way he is due to the fact that she's very acrobatic  :tehe:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Countess of Holland on January 28, 2014, 04:09:11 pm
I wasn't on this board when Victoria married so I didn't know that.

The thing that bugged me the most was that she was given away by her father. That goes against the Lutheran (protestant) tradition in so many ways!
I know it is all OK in the Catholic and Anglican tradition, but it wasn't in the Swedish (northern Europe) tradition.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Nighthawk on January 28, 2014, 04:14:26 pm
:flower: yeah the religious stuff just throws me in all the royal families

I'm just against Carl marrying a porn star

and sofia is a yoga instructor  :cookie:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 31, 2014, 03:25:46 am

theater date

Prinssi Carl Philip nautti teatteri-illasta tyttöystävänsä seurassa
http://kuvakauppa.lehtikuva.fi/edoris?tem=www_gallery_f&id=7aa7db226a204564ff224c128a55f108



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: benign on February 01, 2014, 05:06:39 pm
^thanks.. really wonder if CP will marry her I mean he was in a relationship for 10 years  before so will this one go through same route too..


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on February 01, 2014, 08:19:25 pm
He was in a very long relationship with Emma Pernald, but I have the feeling Sofia pushes for the ring waaaaaay more than her.   

And should they separate, Sofia won't fade away in the background as swiftly as Emma did....


Title: Carl and Sofia marriage
Post by: kolkomilko on March 29, 2015, 04:35:51 pm
I wonder what this marriage will be like? How long will it be last? Will Carl come off well with Sofia or come off badly like Willy with Waity? What do you think about it?


Title: Carl and Sofia marriage
Post by: Alexandrine on March 29, 2015, 04:39:42 pm
It will be similar to Madeleine's I think. It's in the afternoon so wait for white tie. Afterwards they will go in a carriage around the city and then the dinner.

What I do not know is if they marry inside the palace as Madeline or in another church.

oh you meant the marriage itself  :shy: I doubt Sofia will let CP get away after getting married. So we will have Sofia for a long time.


Title: Carl and Sofia marriage
Post by: beline on March 29, 2015, 06:33:56 pm
Sofia is here to stay. She had her sights on the ring since day 1. She will probably announce a pregnancy very soon after the wedding to cement her position.


Title: Carl and Sofia marriage
Post by: windsor2 on March 29, 2015, 06:57:00 pm
It's such a bad president when someone like this girl will represent the family and Sweeden and a prince can be lazy and useless like this chap. What should happen days prior to the wedding is his family member should fake sonethig so serious that would cause the wedding to be called off. I was hoping that the BRF would've come up with something such as Prince Phillip exagerating an illness (not faking going overboard with a medical condition he already has) that would've halted the wedding because how could the royals go on with HM being concerned with the health of her husband.


Title: Re: Carl and Sofia marriage
Post by: beline on March 29, 2015, 07:12:44 pm
What should happen days prior to the wedding is his family member should fake sonethig so serious that would cause the wedding to be called off.

Carl Philip's sister Princess Madeleine is supposed to have her second baby around the wedding's date. With a little luck she will give birth on the same day  :James:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 30, 2015, 04:22:53 pm
I have no doubt that Madeleine will be "unable" to attend this farce of a wedding.  She has made her feelings about Sofia quite clear all along.   I love Madaleine.    :loveshower:


Title: Re: Carl and Sofia marriage
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 30, 2015, 05:09:26 pm
It's such a bad president when someone like this girl will represent the family and Sweeden and a prince can be lazy and useless like this chap. What should happen days prior to the wedding is his family member should fake sonethig so serious that would cause the wedding to be called off. I was hoping that the BRF would've come up with something such as Prince Phillip exagerating an illness (not faking going overboard with a medical condition he already has) that would've halted the wedding because how could the royals go on with HM being concerned with the health of her husband.

I understand now why someone who married outside of royal/aristocratic society was expected to renounce their place and move out of society.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on October 25, 2015, 10:57:50 pm
Please use this thread to the general comments about their life and future, and anything really. Let's keep the other thread for the royal events they do.


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: gingerboy24 on October 26, 2015, 02:41:37 pm
Has to be said I prefer her to cath medd.  Both downmarket and been around the block, but at least Sophia tries with her hair and etc.  The rf should be trying to help her, unless she is like cath medd and thinks she knows it all. Someone, somewhere along the long, should have rectified the sash for her, and it was very unkind of them not to IMO.  I like her, or let me put it this way, I find her vastly preferable to cath medd, at least she looks feminine and not like a man in drag the way cath medd does.


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on October 26, 2015, 02:46:03 pm
^I'd take her over Kannot any day of the week!


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 26, 2015, 02:53:41 pm
There is no competition here -- all the princesses stand on their own behavior, in my opinion.   Sofia has observed the  Swedish royals for YEARS and, while I know it is a daunting task for her to figure out how to put ON clothes rather than take them OFF, surely she can figure out how to put on the star and the ribbon from looking at the royals in person or from photos.   I won't give her credit in thinking it is inappropriate to wear a dress tight enough to show every outline of her body, but her pregnancy will soon take care of that little matter!   :devil:


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: Alexandrine on October 26, 2015, 03:52:23 pm
The bar is so low with all of them that I prefer a republic 100%.


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 27, 2015, 01:37:52 pm
Haakon started the "low bar" wife movement.      :bat:


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: Alexandrine on October 27, 2015, 01:49:12 pm
Lol but maybe his father did.


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: beline on October 27, 2015, 03:35:23 pm
She can wear couture gowns, glitter in royal jewels while smiling and hugging kids in front of cameras, that does not magically transforms her into a saint with redeeming qualities.
She gave many proofs of her true personnality in the past and it's not exactly nice to see. A ring on her finger and a royal title change absolutely nothing.


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: buflesse on November 04, 2015, 02:34:03 pm
I am still marvelling over why he married her. Her hair, hard face and teeth are cringeworthy. Dreadful, and not royal material by any means. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/03/16/2E125DD600000578-3301698-image-a-23_1446567471264.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on November 04, 2015, 05:32:09 pm
^None of that matters when you are Cirque Du Soleil in the bedroom.  :laundry:


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: Alexandrine on November 04, 2015, 05:37:42 pm
he also must be a bit of an idiot so anyone who made him feel as the best ever would work


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on November 04, 2015, 05:39:07 pm
please post here!


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 04, 2015, 05:49:14 pm
I am still marvelling over why he married her. Her hair, hard face and teeth are cringeworthy. Dreadful, and not royal material by any means. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/03/16/2E125DD600000578-3301698-image-a-23_1446567471264.jpg

And she has unattractive legs.   The only part of her body that is attractive is her tush [I am assuming her breasts were purchased].   And the tush will be gone after this pregnancy.    :devil:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: leogirl on November 05, 2015, 03:38:33 am
Well, if her breasts were purchased, her parents must have had them done when she was 15 because she did her first "shoot" at 16.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 05, 2015, 04:27:34 am
They gave her permission to pose nude, so they very well may have.  If they are fake. If they aren't, well, the pregnancy will take of those, too.   Welcome to mama-hood, Sofia!!   ;)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: leogirl on November 05, 2015, 06:07:02 am
I don't know... I just assumed they were real because she was so young. But considering her parents, I wouldn't be surprised if they were fake. No wonder she had that crazy period in her life, considering what kind of people her parents are, pimping their young daughter out for photos like that. Poor thing.  :sob:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on November 17, 2015, 06:49:08 pm
http://www.bunte.de/schweden/sofia-von-schweden-fotograf-so-erlebte-ich-sie-mit-16-183701.html

The parents but where they thinking??  :o


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on November 19, 2015, 12:31:00 pm
They are on holidays on NY 

http://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelige/sverige/prins-carl-philip-og-prinsesse-sofia-paa-ferie-i-new-york?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: kolkomilko on November 19, 2015, 03:24:37 pm
She doesn't look pregnant at all.  :cookie: Supposedly there is only one month betweenSylvia and her pregnancy.  ???


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 19, 2015, 03:38:06 pm
^^ On holiday?   She has her big royal wedding, comes back from the honeymoon, takes a few "looker-me" tours so that peons, er, people can admire her, makes a few appearances, Vic beats her to the punch on getting pregnant with the spare, Sofia disappears to South Africa, leaving her bridegroom behind, and now pops up in New York for a holiday.   And, as kolkomilko observes, doesn't look pregnant.

This is very odd.  Especially for a gold-digging woman who could not wait to become a princess.  Did she run off in a huff?  Having a temper tantrum, if you will?   And why is the press not criticizing her for it?   Strange.     :cookie:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on November 19, 2015, 03:43:53 pm
That must be a stock photo.  It was cloudy, cool and drizzly in NYC yesterday.  And today.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on November 19, 2015, 03:45:16 pm
The photo is older.

this is from the trip http://www.newmyroyals.com/2015/11/prince-carl-philip-and-princess-sofia.html

I love Sofia's expression, not feeling sorry that the papz are after them  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia: News and Pictures
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 20, 2015, 03:45:03 pm
http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/carl-philip-och-sofia-blir-en-overraskning/

Well, here's newlywed couple who does not look happy.   The former nude model girlfriend who loved the cameras and attention could not get away from this reporter and camera quickly enough.  Wonder what's up??     :laundry:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on November 20, 2015, 05:08:21 pm
I have a feeling she's not exactly happy to be pregnant at the same time as the Heir... She never stroke me as being happy with sharing the limelight.
Victoria's second baby pushes her husband and her future child further down the line. Instead of carrying the "spare's spare", she's now barely expecting the 5th in line. :laundry:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 20, 2015, 07:19:52 pm
http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/carl-philip-och-sofia-blir-en-overraskning/

Well, here's newlywed couple who does not look happy.   The former nude model girlfriend who loved the cameras and attention could not get away from this reporter and camera quickly enough.  Wonder what's up??     :laundry:

It could be a kind of personality switch we always see; one minute lovign the camera, the next shying away.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 20, 2015, 08:25:31 pm
^ Has Sofia ever shyed away from a camera before she married?   


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Rosella on November 20, 2015, 09:18:38 pm
^^ There are stories around that elements at Court and King Carl Gustav's sisters were against this marriage from the beginning and there are still cold feelings towards Sofia in those quarters. These are causing difficulties.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on November 21, 2015, 12:42:40 am
^uh how much influence can the king's sisters have at this time? And considering how they treated Daniel and how they treated Sofia she had a much easier time. She was going on holidays with the family during the first year of relationship.

After watching the video I think she was happy to see the camera and CP was more like how can we avoid them. Except at the end before getting in the car I don't know what they asked her but she didn't like it at all.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 21, 2015, 02:06:06 pm
Here are a few headlines from a source that may be a Swedish version of The Globe, but still quite interesting as there obviously is something negative going on in Sofia's world based upon her long absence from Sweden and the body language of the bride and groom in New York:

http://stoppapressarna.se/kungligt/nytt-hot-sofia-ska-sparkas-ut-fran-slottet

NEW ATTACK AGAINST THE PRINCESS SOFIA: KICK HER OUT!
She vilified and ridiculed.
Now dark forces within the court kicking out Sofia from the castle.
- The king should put his foot down!
The pregnant Princess Sofia, 30, continues to receive criticism and now becomes situation increasingly serious.

http://stoppapressarna.se/kungligt/efter-kritiken-sofia-flyr-fran-sverige

SOFIA PANIC FLIGHT FROM SWEDEN AND THE STORM OF CRITICISM
The hard pressure on pregnant Sofia grows.
Now leave the princess country and take refuge in the apartment in South Africa.
- Stress has been hard on her!
Princess Sofia, 30, have come under fire several times recently.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 21, 2015, 07:52:29 pm
She needs to toughen up and not bail on her husband to South Africa; she has a past that makes people loathe her and she needs to live her past down.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Countess of Holland on November 22, 2015, 06:07:52 pm
^^ and ^

I take these stories with more than a pinch of salt. These magazines sell issues and stories about the marriage being all lovey-dovey won't sell as many issues as a story about pending drama.

And let's face it...Sofia has received lots of (deserved) criticism in the past, so why would she be panicked now? Now that she is married, has a baby on the way? It makes no sense.
As for her trip to South-Africa; she has been involved with the organisation for some time now and whatever her motives were for becoming involved with the organisation, it makes sense that she is present when the organisation celebrates a jubilee.
And that has nothing to do with fleeing from the court, marriage in crisis etc. She is doing her thing, she is representing Sweden and her new family abroad and that is what is expected of her.

It would be the same as saying that Maxima is feeling the court because the pressure of being Queen gets to her while she is in reality in Bangladesh as UN special ambassador for inclusive finance.

The gutter press thrives on drama and when there is none...they create it.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 22, 2015, 06:55:32 pm
The stories are obviously written in tabloid titillation manner.  However, there remains the actions and body language of Sofia and CP.  Sofia stepped down from her active role at PP in April of this year because she would be taking on duties as a member of the Swedish Royal Family.  And yet she missed out on a state dinner to fly far away for a very low key event for which there was very little publicity.  And then, she stayed. In her new apartment that someone ?? bought for her after she became engaged to CP.  [Can you imagine the outrage if Sarah Ferguson had been given such an apartment].    And then, after the newlywed pregnant wife and member of the SRF had been gone long enough that people were questioning, she and CP pop up in New York.  They both seemed quite uncomfortable and ill at ease in that video, imo. 

These are strange behaviors from a pregnant bride who moved heaven and earth to get to the position she finally got.  While the stories may be heavily embellished, there is still something not quite right.   


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Countess of Holland on November 22, 2015, 08:11:01 pm
Sorry but I disagree with you.

Giving up an active position at an organization doesn't mean you are not involved in it anymore in any way. For years I was a very active volunteer at the local animal shelter, volunteering one Saturday a month. Two years ago I stopped, partly for health (hernia) reasons but also because it became a bit too much, timewise. But when the animal shelter celebrated its 100th birthday a few months ago, I went to the festivities.

As for the trip to New York...the couple seems to have the same infatuation with the Big Apple that all royals have. Do they have a lot of free time/ vacations...yes they have. As do many royals, especially the non-heirs. But to see the trip to South-Africa and/or New York as a big sign that the marriage is on the rocks (already)...not buying it.
Let's face it...as much as we may dislike Sofia as a royal spouse, she is here to stay and she is an easy target for the Swedish press: attacks on Daniel and Victoria are not accepted by the Swedish people, Madeleine is in London and her husband makes his own money and is therefor less of a target for the press. So they will go after Sofia and CP. And they have made it easy with her past.

So we will have to agree to disagree about the drama-stories of the press. They don't even need smoke to create a fire and considering them as trustworthy sources for any story, that is just a brdige too far for me.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 23, 2015, 01:16:59 am
There are many ways to continue to be active in an honorary position, however.  She could have appeared by skype to give her greetings and support, without traveling over 6,000 miles in her first trimester of pregnancy.     She has an honorary position with PP now and is supposed to be working for the monarchy which includes state dinners.   How odd that her new husband was at the state dinner without her.  Or that he did not go with her to South Africa.

Sofia is only here to stay as long as Carl Philip wants her.  He did not look very happy when the pregnancy was announced, and he did not look very happy at his reunion with his bride in NY.   If she has cut him off from the sex now that they are married, and if she is treating him in otherwise offhanded ways now that she has the title, I can see him going to daddy for a way out.  He is spoiled and self centered enough to do that as we can see from his refusal to give her up despite her being all wrong as a royal wife. 

Daniel and Chris and Maddie have been raked over the coals by the press.  Sofia has, up til now, been protected and her background has been whitewashed.   However, is she is seen to be a greedy, temperamental shirker, I think that will change.   Time will tell, of course, and we shall just have to stay tuned and keep watching!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: My2Pence on November 23, 2015, 05:14:56 pm
CP said they wanted to wait on children et voila here is Sofia pregnant just after the wedding.

The body language is interesting, as is the SA apartment. I hope there is a Swedish journalist who tracks down who paid for the luxury apartment and who is paying the monthly service fees. It cannot be Sofia, she has no money and has been living off CP for years. They still need to investigate the true origins of the charity, where the initial money went (which bank account), and whether or not she claimed her Swedish apartment as a business expense. 


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Ariel on November 23, 2015, 08:11:36 pm
I didn't see anything strange between them. CP wanted to wait but babies don't wait. They decide when to come. I only wonder why in NYC they found a journalist who speaks Swedish. it's strange


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 24, 2015, 03:18:00 am
It is just quite a coincidence that this baby decided to come immediately upon Sofia's marriage and not during those long passionate years of dating.   :tehe:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on November 24, 2015, 10:37:05 am
^Isn't that how babies should come?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 14, 2015, 04:11:40 am
The difference in CP's demeanor from last year's Nobels to this year is quite noticeable:

2014 - beaming, happy with girlfriend:  https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnAS6As7uQPGxA9MtRkQaxpd0h8hTk14m0PO361xgqTsz4LS4n

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ysWKxdtdR24/VIiob4NdQlI/AAAAAAAALQc/yjzCDsGNFCw/s1600/Princess-Victoria-Nobel-Prize-Awards-Ceremony-6-1.jpg

2015 - glum, dead eyes with wife:  http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/5/16/95/15/@/2018066-la-princesse-sofia-enceinte-et-le-950x0-2.jpg

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/5/16/95/15/@/2018064-la-princesse-sofia-enceinte-et-le-950x0-2.jpg



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Ariel on December 14, 2015, 09:39:28 pm
she looks more smug but i wouldn't go that far to say he's unhappy. he usually has dull expressions. this could be one of those


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 15, 2015, 03:28:06 pm
CP was always very into Sofia.  I haven't found a picture of him looking glum in her presence up until he knew she was pregnant.  For instance, in August, he was very touchy/smiley/happy with her in Varmland:

http://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2015082626975/prince-carl-philip-sofia-hellqvist-varmland/

But a few weeks later at this concert, the body language is much different.  CP is pulling ahead of her.  He is not bothering to smile for the camera.  They both are talking to other people, turned away from each other.  A very different attitude from CP.

http://www.newmyroyals.com/2015/09/prince-carl-philip-and-princess-sofia.html

A couple of weeks later, after this concert, was when Sofia's pregnancy was announced.

And the photos from last week's Nobels show that CP doesn't seem any more happy than he appeared to be in September.  It seems that CP is not happy at all about this pregnancy and perhaps feels it was planned without his knowledge.  Otherwise, one would think a new husband and father-to-be would be bursting with pride and smiling a lot for the cameras.  He isn't bothering at all.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 15, 2015, 06:45:20 pm
I'm kind of ticked at CP; he wanted to marry her, he wanted to make her his wife, he lived with her for ages, so why sulk?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 15, 2015, 07:00:09 pm
 :thumbsup:   Yep.   It just shows how immature he is. 


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 16, 2015, 02:28:00 pm
Maybe he's crancky because he has a hormonal chick on his hands now and he doesn't know how to deal with it?
How mong does hormonal stuff last in a pregnancy? Is it the whole time or just the first months? (I've never been pregnant so I have no clue?! :dontknow:)


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 16, 2015, 02:35:21 pm
Here's the lastest photo of the newlyweds, wherein they are receiving the Christmas tree, and you could drive a truck through the gap between Sofia and CP.   CP's half smile doesn't reach his eyes, whereas his bride is grinning like a possum, seeming quite satisfied with all in her world.    :cookie:

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/l/t31.0-8/12365938_1291971490828427_7870993780341085756_o.jpg



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on December 16, 2015, 02:35:55 pm
^^ If and it's a big IF CP is looking tense or his mind is elsewhere or whatever we dream up is true, my money's on boredom with the high probability of non-stop baby talk with two females in his life being pregnant. With one, it's kind of tolerable, but two?  Unbearable.  Been there.

Akasha, each and every woman, in my experience, is different when pregnant.  Just as no two pregnancies are alike and just as no two children of your own can be alike.  One of my pregnancies wasn't a trip to the beach but the other was like 1000 trips to the beach and all perfect.  See?  Your eyes are already glazing over.  


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 16, 2015, 03:34:50 pm
^ CP is a professional prince and should be able to put on a happy face in public when the cameras are pointed at him.  That's his job for which he is generously compensated.    And bored about the prospect of being a father?  That almost (but not quite) makes me feel sorry for Sofia that the father of her child would be so bored out of his mind about everything to do with his child and it shows that Victoria and Madeliene won the husbands-stakes with their husbands who are so doting and considerate of them.   Ah, well, it's Sofia, so I doubt she is that worried about it.   


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on December 16, 2015, 08:21:56 pm
I noticed that he looked very gloomy during Nicolas' christening and his attitude hasn't change much. Being newlywed and being an expectant father I would have thought he would look much more happy.

Maybe the reality of being married is catching up with him?  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: marion on December 16, 2015, 11:13:38 pm
^a bit like someone else a bit closer to home?


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 29, 2015, 04:23:16 pm
I wonder what the new princess received for Christmas?     And if it satisfied her or disappointed her?     Things have gone quiet in Sweden over the holidays.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on December 29, 2015, 09:52:03 pm
^ well the emerald earrings everyone thought came with the tiara seem to belong to Silvia so maybe new jewels


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 04, 2016, 07:03:04 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3383845/Europe-s-earth-royals-Princess-Sofia-Prince-Carl-Philip-Sweden-dress-casually-shop-pram-ahead-birth-child.html



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kins on December 11, 2017, 03:03:53 pm
So I am new and have been working my way through all the threads-looks like I was late to the party here-most of the links with pics of Sofia's pre-CP life are '404 not found'. Either the links are bad or someone in Sweden did a good job scrubbing her past  :dontknow:                                                                                                       


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on December 11, 2017, 03:10:22 pm
LOL I think that if you search on reddit you may have luck but it is possible you will end up on p?rn subreddits.



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 11, 2017, 03:30:24 pm
http://lovelolaheart.com/?p=1608


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on December 11, 2017, 08:56:33 pm
^^^ She's been crazy whitewashed, to this day. She also still ignores court (ie CG's & Silvia's) orders. Baffling that someone like Sofia was allowed to marry in, that one I think no one with half a brain can understand. :-

PS ^ What is that bum tattoo? Looks a little Arabic to me in that grainy pic...

PPS ^ That article is gold, laughing a lot! Very witty and true!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on December 11, 2017, 10:06:03 pm
^ what court orders?

Btw sofia wearing her tiara twice at the nobels.... that smells bad.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on December 11, 2017, 11:58:06 pm
^ Wondered about that too, but she had it readjusted and now wore it without emeralds, with emeralds and with pearls since the adjustment/ reshaping. I wonder whether the emeralds were always detachable, or only since the reshaping.... Much better now anyway, in its original form it was fugly and I think not even Madde or Vic could have made it work 100%.

She was told to laser off her tattoos before the wedding which she ignored (instead wore a dress that showed off one of them and to this day she wears necklines that emphasize it); she was supposed to cut ties with Project Playground (which contrary to the spin she did not found but tagged along, and which is embroiled in a sex scandal right now); she also seems to have clashed with Silvia over Gabe's Christening and I think some more stuff, don't remember it quite all. She also doesn't seem to have many patronages, as apparently no one wants her as patron, so CG reshuffled some stuff. Which is ridiculous anyway, considering hat Sweden has a monarch & heir only system, so CP & S should fade into oblivion & private life..


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 12, 2017, 01:35:41 am
I like how Sofia wearing her tiara now pearls or just diamonds  with emeralds  it made it look cheap


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Snowpea on December 12, 2017, 04:09:42 am
http://lovelolaheart.com/?p=1608

Sofia and Prince Carl Philip started shacking up in April 2011.  Sofia was hosed down and deloused to the best abilities of modern science.

Oh my,  :laugh: :worship: :tehe:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on December 12, 2017, 08:08:02 am
Olya I hadnt heard about that... where did it appear? the press?

What happened with the christening?

I need more info about the sex scandal and no one wanting her as patron please!


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on December 12, 2017, 03:14:59 pm
^ In Swedish press. Sofia is well known to feed the media and throw her sisters-in.law under the bus, esp Madde. Surprisingly she's had quite bad press (at long last) herself recently and it was also said that a huge tiff happened between her and Silvia over the Christening, which was actually badly done, sth Swedish RF watchers would notice. Eg Sofia's ridiculous costume and show. There was so much to read, I skipped quite a bit, couldn't keep up with it all tbh.

The sex scandal, "Fredrik af Klercker was arrested in 2009 for buying "sexual services" from a prostitute in Stockholm named Brown Sugar. And he has helped PP organize their annual charity gala for several years now, including this year." That's the major part of the scandal and it won't quite die down in the press either. Hard to sweep under the carpet, esp considering what the charity stands for.
https://stoppapressarna.se/kungligt/sofias-fest-med-sexdomd-adelsman
Sofia also went to Africa for "charity work" at an orphanage, but had the girls provocatively dressed and model in front of the boys, to "raise their self confidence". She also said that women were raped because they weren't strong enough to say "no" and all this when she was already with CP and clearly digging for the ring. She stalked him just like Waity did with Bill and then cheated with him on his then-gf Emma P.

I think the violent physical attack comments (which came fairly recently, a couple of years ago? when she already married in? Not sure, but the comments aren't that old, 5 yrs max) and her "chaity work" and links to questionable people (sex industry, apart from her sugar daddy days she modelled nude -even while underage-, boasted about kissing prn stars in Vegas and was in a saucy reality TV show) are enough why no one wants her. She also made fun of a disabled prof in NY, had a sugar daddy there and basically sold her body during that time. Then she had the bright idea to stalk CP and came back to Sweden for that. Worked out well for her. The patronages and events she has, like Sophiahemmet (private hospital) was given to her by CG, even though his sister Christina worked for them since 1972 (eg Wiki: On 1 January 2016, Princess Sofia, Duchess of Värmland was announced as the new honorary president of the hospital. Her Royal Highness replaced Princess Christina, Mrs. Magnuson, who served as honorary president since 1972.); and also Silvia's World Childhood Foundation is Silvia's only and Madeleine was being primed to take over (eventually, all in all Madeleine is the major player in this next to Silvia), but they had to put Sofia on it as well, because otherwise she has nothing apart from Project Playground (which she was supposed to drop upon marriage), Sophiahemmet and some diddle dims here and there.

There's more, but I am not that closely following to recall it all now and it's quite a bit to dig through stuff to find the relevant comments and links.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 12, 2017, 04:09:49 pm
^ Also, supposedly Silvia stroked the baby's head and said something to Sofia after the christening, and Sofia ignored her.  This is on the video, apparently, but I have not sifted through to find it.  None of the family seems to be happy in Sofia's company:  Not Silvia, not Victoria and not Madeleine.  Victoria has been forced to sit by either a sister of Sofia's or mother (this time) at the two christenings, and she has a regal chilly demeanor throughout.   



Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on December 12, 2017, 04:56:06 pm
^ Indeed. Even super professional Victoria is rather frosty around Sof and her sisters.
That one sister who's Gabe's Godparent, she's a PhD (student or already has it), but seems to be as dumb as Sofia, got that shyte awful tattoo, didn't cover it up (wearing apparently deliberately short sleeves to show it off and generally being dressed more for spring/ summer than the depth of a Scandi winter), which depicts an upside down cross with a tail that seems to be used amongst satanists. That family takes the cake.


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kins on December 12, 2017, 07:31:32 pm
http://lovelolaheart.com/?p=1608

OMG!!!!!! Such a classy gal.....not.   :o


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: beline on December 12, 2017, 08:55:40 pm
Sofia is pure trash. A greedy, ugly, no bounds famewh*re.
Even Victoria who is her warm to absolutely everyone is cold towards her.

NSFW
https://s18.postimg.org/7ld7pmoc9/sofia-hellqvist-naken.jpg

https://s18.postimg.org/h5wucp0vd/N_r_den_svenska_utvikningsflickan_stod_p_topp_Blast_from_the_pa.jpg


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on December 15, 2017, 07:30:11 pm
Another Sofia scandal, now that I mentioned it in the other thread, might as well put it here as well to round it all out:
She had donations made for Project Playground directed at her private bank account, that was somewhere at the start of the whole PP thing and she simply put out her bank account as the charity's and pocketed the money, until that was basically uncovered and she called out.

Seems like no dynasty can find decent people to marry into their cosy little institutions anymore (save for Chris & Daniel)... :sigh:


Title: Re: Carl & Sofia Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 19, 2018, 11:00:22 pm
Princes these days really don't want to make an effort and meet decent women, behave decently, or better themselves. Chris and Daniel clearly are men who worked at bettering themselves and made their own way and genuinely don't need their wives since they have more than enough of their own.