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The British Royal Family *Windsor* => HM Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Phillip => Topic started by: Nighthawk on May 22, 2011, 02:43:47 am



Title: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: Nighthawk on May 22, 2011, 02:43:47 am
Extraordinary picture which captures the moment Prince Philip met the Queen for first time when she was just 13
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389509/First-meeting-The-moment-Queen-set-eyes-Prince-Philip.html#ixzz1N2cu21ci

No wonder the Queen feel for Philip, he was a striking handsome lad  :AWW: so sweet  :loveshower:


Title: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on December 02, 2011, 04:16:15 pm
Queen's 'tears' over Duke of Edinburgh's 'brutal' behaviour

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/8931553/Queens-tears-over-Duke-of-Edinburghs-brutal-behaviour.html


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Black Queen on December 02, 2011, 05:24:09 pm
 :think: Interesting that we're getting to hear of these personal stories, it seems the BRF isn't so private anymore.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 02, 2011, 05:59:47 pm
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The Queen was reduced to tears by the Duke of Edinburgh’s “brutal” behaviour towards her when she refused to take his surname of Mountbatten, according to a new biography.


Go only knows what went on behind closed doors. I know there is a reason that she went from a glowing, vibrant young Queen to the woman who frowned all the time. I know it's one thing to suggest physical abuse, but quite frankly he's been brutal enough towards his own son and bad enough that I think he has been abusive. Even HM's own father didn't like him, beyond just a father's dislike of a husband for his daughter. Then the Queen Mother didn't like him (and she's usually been a good judge of character) and go figure neither did Queen Mary.

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Sally Bedell Smith even suggests that the ten-year delay between the births of the Princess Royal and the Duke of York was the result of “Philip’s anger over the Queen’s rejection of his family name”.


I think this is accurate; Sally Bedell Smith isn't biased and she strikes me as a type that would be honest about this since it's not like the RF can do anything to really punish or reward her. Philip has been known to be rough and I don't see him sparing anyone if he is low enough to treat his son badly.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: rogue on December 02, 2011, 06:09:04 pm
:think: Interesting that we're getting to hear of these personal stories, it seems the BRF isn't so private anymore.

I know , even the Queen isn't immune anymore  . The Windsors have become to celebrity too common.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on December 03, 2011, 12:34:27 pm
Sarah Bradford: perhaps I got it wrong about the Duke of Edinburgh, but he does like to flirt

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-philip/8932374/Sarah-Bradford-perhaps-I-got-it-wrong-about-the-Duke-of-Edinburgh-but-he-does-like-to-flirt.html


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 04, 2011, 12:48:27 am
:think: Interesting that we're getting to hear of these personal stories, it seems the BRF isn't so private anymore.
I know , even the Queen isn't immune anymore  . The Windsors have become to celebrity too common.

Unnerving isn't it? Now HM is being dragged into the mire and I wonder if the courtiers are now leaking and plan to write books and give interviews about the ugly underbelly of the relationship between the couple.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: meememe on December 04, 2011, 01:32:23 am
Nothing I have read in these articles is news - it has been well known for decades that Philip was upset at the decision to not have the Mountbatten name passed onto his children.

Physical abuse - I doubt it - but that they had rows over things is also well known with reporters quoting coutiers in the 50s onwards as being able to tell when they had had words as they could be frosty with each other - but which couple don't have words about things.

The amoeba comment has been around for nearly 60 years.

Sorry but this simply isn't news but a review of a new book which the papers have decided to turn into a story - assuming that the public have short memories.  I have biographies published in the 60s which say this stuff - that Philip and Elizabeth had words - loudly over this issue and that she was upset because he wanted them to have his name and she was pressured to pass on her maiden name.

There will be many more books in the next 6 months or so in the lead up to the Jubilee as everyone who has ever written about the royals will want to cash in on the big event - some will simply update a previous work while others will write new books.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on December 04, 2011, 01:51:06 am
yup i agree they are just dusting off a very old story, nothing I haven't heard before.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Tatiana on December 09, 2011, 10:52:57 pm


           

           Déjà vu  ... all over again ..  ;)

                  Nothing new here and anyone with eyes can see HRH Prince Philip is a bit of a flirt.. its part of his charm.

                          HM loves her husband and he loves and respects her.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on April 22, 2012, 01:29:45 pm
I've read today that PP had an affair with Sarah Ferguson's mother in 1992  :o


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on May 23, 2012, 08:50:28 pm
How the Queen lost her heart slow dancing to a show tune from Oklahoma!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2147881/Queen-Elizabeth-II-How-Her-Majesty-lost-heart-slow-dancing-tune-Oklahoma.html


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: giamodel60 on May 23, 2012, 11:40:53 pm
i highly doubt there were any tears from the queen
she isn't given to tearing up about much
she knew who she was marrying



Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Jane23 on May 24, 2012, 08:36:51 am
^ Exactly  :goodpost:.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on May 24, 2012, 03:45:18 pm
but she was a woman in love ...


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 28, 2012, 01:22:05 am
i highly doubt there were any tears from the queen
she isn't given to tearing up about much
she knew who she was marrying

I highly doubt that HM was immune from being hurt when her husband was out danging with a showgirl or actress, or in bed with them.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Jane23 on May 28, 2012, 08:22:32 am
What I admire about this two is they always kept their business PRIVATE and never let the public into their intimacy no matter what it seems they are each other' s best friend a team... and incredible team  8).


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: AnaBolena on May 28, 2012, 09:13:37 pm
She made such a beautiful bride and he a very handsome groom.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/22/article-2147881-06EC09EB000005DC-249_636x788.jpg

I love that pic.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Jane23 on May 29, 2012, 10:22:06 am
^ Such a good looking couple just beautiful  :flirt:.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: giamodel60 on May 30, 2012, 03:21:02 pm
i highly doubt he was cheating (pp)


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on June 10, 2012, 12:58:53 pm
much more beautiful couple than pw and kate  :snob:


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Mooster on June 10, 2012, 01:59:13 pm
Philip looks proud and happy in that pic...can't say I saw the same expression on his grandson's face


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: memyselfandroyals on June 10, 2012, 02:09:13 pm
i believe no one can say that


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on August 06, 2012, 11:54:39 am
The British gent Lauren Bacall told me had covered up Prince Philip's philandering: An astonishing claim in the second part of our deliciously mischievous series

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2184191/The-British-gent-Lauren-Bacall-told-covered-Prince-Philips-philandering-An-astonishing-claim-second-deliciously-mischievous-series.html

Interesting comment

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Oh for Gods sake, all of us old enough to remember guessed what went on BUT cant you at least save our Queen from embarassment, until he dies!! - lyn, great britain ### Why? She knew what was going-on from Day One, her Private Secretary's main job is covering all the scandals up, HER's too! It is also known ('guessed', you might call it) that the Q had her fair share of liaisons over the years. Posh people are like that, rabbits, laws and morals are for the working-classes, not them. In '62 her PS Sir Michael Adeane had a slush-fund of £30 million to cover 'emergencies'. DoE was costing over 3 mil a year in regular payments to people, including his security, who were paid huge wages to look the other way, help if called for, she cost a tad less. I have an impecable source for this info, met her via a friend, but you wouldn't believe me so I'll not mention her name. The public would be shocked at what these people get up to.
- ThatcherMan, EU, 06/8/2012 10:14


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: FrillyKnickers on August 06, 2012, 05:42:46 pm
 ^^ :wellduh:  :wellduh: :wellduh: :wellduh: :wellduh: :wellduh: :wellduh: :wellduh: :wellduh: :wellduh: :wellduh:^^

My theory on this one is, someone at the DM is mad at The BRF. Someone did something to someone over there to make them print this about Phillip The Beloved. I am  :cookie: to know who.

Or, maybe it's a case of the kids starting to rebel? :JOY: :tease: :prokates: :egg: :catfight:

EITHER WAY....

No one in The BRF is safe. :hide:  :runforhills: :RUN: :help:

This is a lesson The BRF refuses to acknowledge time and time again: NO ONE, (not even a failed newspaper turned tabloid during an economic recession) can be bought, threatened or manipulated by them.
 


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on September 03, 2012, 09:54:22 pm
Philip and the showgirl laid bare on stage: Duke's sensitive letters to star Pat Kirkwood to feature in controversial musical

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2197382/Prince-Philips-sensitive-letters-star-Pat-Kirkwood-feature-controversial-musical.html


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 08, 2012, 06:35:51 am
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My theory on this one is, someone at the DM is mad at The BRF. Someone did something to someone over there to make them print this about Phillip The Beloved. I am   to know who.


Someone is mad at the BRF and I don't think it's the DM.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on September 26, 2012, 04:12:17 pm
Prince Philip and the angry 'showgirl’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9562833/Prince-Philip-and-the-angry-showgirl.html


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Cressida on September 26, 2012, 06:40:04 pm
Prince Philip notoriously played away from home, there were even rumours that he was involved in the Profumo Scandal as the naked masked man at a party. He is also supposed to have had an affair with Princess Alexandra for years.



Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on September 26, 2012, 10:54:46 pm
I believe it, but couldn't he have chosen someone else that P. Alexandra? The DM usually remarks also on how friendly he is with his friend's wives  :June:


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Spice on September 26, 2012, 11:40:21 pm
I don't believe that he ever had an affair with Princess Alexandra.  I just can't see either of them doing that, right under the Queen's nose.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: meememe on September 27, 2012, 12:06:53 am
I don't think he had an affair at all - I do think he was attracted to pretty women and enjoyed and still enjoys their attention but he chose to marry The Queen and I do think he has been faithful to her.

Has she been faithful to him?  That is another question.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Spice on September 27, 2012, 09:45:08 pm
I know some of her kids happen to look somewhat like Lords Carnarvon and Plunket, but I still can't see how she could think it was worth the risk of sleeping with other men and having children to them.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on September 27, 2012, 10:04:01 pm
Why not? If she wanted a change from Phillip no one was going to say that she couldn't do it.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Spice on September 27, 2012, 10:11:50 pm
But wouldn't she have been more careful, and not gotten pregnant?

Also, she does seem quite devout in her faith.  She doesn't seem the type to break her marriage vows.  But I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Snokitty on September 27, 2012, 11:12:01 pm
There are to many rumors out there of Prince Phillip cheating. At least one of them is probably true.


Title: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Snokitty on November 18, 2012, 04:27:27 pm
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/358966/-Forget-protocol-darling-


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The Queen and Prince Philip’s shared sense of fun certainly goes a long way to explaining how the couple, who celebrate their 65th wedding anniversary on Tuesday, have remained so endearingly close over the years.

Both lovers of pranks and practical jokes, during their tour of Canada in 1951 the Duke chased the Queen down a train corridor wearing a set of giant false teeth.

On another occasion, Philip left a can of nuts on the Queen’s desk during a tour. She let out a squeal as she opened it to find a joke snake popping out.


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Jane23 on November 19, 2012, 08:46:34 am
Happy Anniversary!!!  :stars:


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: YooperModerator on November 19, 2012, 02:42:45 pm
You know i think this is great
one of the few long lasting couples i know of they are rare nowadays
My parents got to nearly 45 y before my dad died


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 19, 2012, 03:36:59 pm
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/358966/-Forget-protocol-darling-


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The Queen and Prince Philip’s shared sense of fun certainly goes a long way to explaining how the couple, who celebrate their 65th wedding anniversary on Tuesday, have remained so endearingly close over the years.

Both lovers of pranks and practical jokes, during their tour of Canada in 1951 the Duke chased the Queen down a train corridor wearing a set of giant false teeth.

On another occasion, Philip left a can of nuts on the Queen’s desk during a tour. She let out a squeal as she opened it to find a joke snake popping out.

65 years of hilarious comments.


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on November 19, 2012, 04:23:04 pm
Happy Anniversary  :loveshower:


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Grace on November 19, 2012, 04:41:20 pm
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc454/grace381/welcome%20and%20hi/647917tavfi51bs0.gif)
(http://www.desicomments.com/dc3/01/200583/200583.gif) (http://www.desicomments.com/anniversary/nice-marriage-anniversary-glitter/)
(http://www.desicomments.com/graphics/anniversary/44.gif) (http://www.desicomments.com/anniversary/dimonds-ring/)


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Snokitty on November 19, 2012, 05:54:10 pm
http://www.royalhistorian.com/how-queen-elizabeth-ii-and-prince-philip-duke-of-edinburgh-will-celebrate-their-65th-wedding-anniversary/
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The circumstances of the royal marriage have not been easy. Prince Philip was initially distrusted by prominent members of the English aristocracy for his foreign origins and interest in modernizing the royal household. The Duke of Edinburgh left a promising naval career to support the Queen in her royal duties after she ascended to the throne in 1952. The long gap between the birth of Princess Anne in 1950 and the birth of Prince Andrew in 1960 fuelled popular speculation of difficulties within the royal marriage.

The Queen’s tributes to Prince Philip in recent years suggests that the bond between them has only strengthened with the passing decades, creating a long and enduring union. Tomorrow’s anniversary without public engagements provides the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh with a rare opportunity to spend a day in each others company without being in the public eye, as they have been for most of their sixty-five year marriage.


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Jane23 on November 19, 2012, 06:30:56 pm
65 Years together is a World Record now days  lol...they should be applauded !!!


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Alexandrine on November 19, 2012, 06:37:36 pm
wasn't there going to be some new related to Phillip?


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Snokitty on November 20, 2012, 12:43:00 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/royalty/9688343/The-Queen-and-the-Duke-of-Edinburghs-65th-wedding-anniversary.html

I think this was his big announcement   :dontknow:

phil dampier ‏@phildampier

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Prince Phlip Wise Words and Golden Gaffes available from http://Barzipan.com


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Snokitty on November 20, 2012, 02:50:00 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2235715/Happy-anniversary-Your-Majesty-Queen-Prince-Philip-celebrate-65-years-marriage--FEMAIL-looks-long-happy-union-photo-year.html

Sorry about the double post but I love looking at the photos and thought someone else might also.   kisss


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Steph on November 20, 2012, 03:38:02 pm
Happy Anniversary :loveshower: :flower:


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: jaggy on November 20, 2012, 11:42:24 pm
I guess divorce would have never been an option for them if the marriage hadn't worked out, they are just too oldfashioned for that.

But that aside...

 :stars: :newyear:

I think it's just lovely - 65 years of marriage  :sigh:

I really like those two  kisss


Title: Re: Happy 65th Anniversary To The Queen & Prince Phillip
Post by: Acornia on November 21, 2012, 12:05:38 am
Happy 65th!  :flower:


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: CrystalEve on July 30, 2013, 11:59:57 am
I know some of her kids happen to look somewhat like Lords Carnarvon and Plunket, but I still can't see how she could think it was worth the risk of sleeping with other men and having children to them.

"A Triumvirate formed for the
heroin trafficking which involved
Prince Philip,
Lord Porchester and Lord Plunket.
Queen Elizabeth II was and is
virtually a slave, because
she’s compromised,
so she had a
child with the heroin trafficker
Lord Porchester called
“Prince Andrew”,      
then a child with the
heroin trafficker Lord Plunket
called “Prince Edward”.  :nervous:


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 30, 2013, 12:20:55 pm
I know some of her kids happen to look somewhat like Lords Carnarvon and Plunket, but I still can't see how she could think it was worth the risk of sleeping with other men and having children to them.

For her there is no risk; she is Queen and can have any kids she wants and can consider them legitimate.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: gingerboy24 on July 30, 2013, 12:49:11 pm
I know some of her kids happen to look somewhat like Lords Carnarvon and Plunket, but I still can't see how she could think it was worth the risk of sleeping with other men and having children to them.

"A Triumvirate formed for the
heroin trafficking which involved
Prince Philip,
Lord Porchester and Lord Plunket.
Queen Elizabeth II was and is
virtually a slave, because
she’s compromised,
so she had a
child with the heroin trafficker
Lord Porchester called
“Prince Andrew”,      
then a child with the
heroin trafficker Lord Plunket
called “Prince Edward”.  :nervous:

Interesting, good post.  No wonder her kids all look as though they have different fathers  -  they probably do.....  This family seem to be totally dysfunctional from where I am stood  -  so many lies and so much deceit it beggars belief.  They need to get rid of the lot of them, they are all freeloads and no better than any other family living on hand outs, and a lot of those por souls have no choice these days whilst this lot feast on Joe Public´s money.  Scandalous.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 30, 2013, 12:55:35 pm
The main dynamic of the relationship is how HM seems apologetic about being Queen and makes up for it by letting Philip run the family into the ground, whether it be tormenting Charles or pretty much causing a lot of disruptions around the royal household. I know all about dysfunctional families, but this family is coming apart at the seams; HM with children from different fathers while Philip fathers kids out of wedlock and can't stop himself whenever he's around a woman, when he isn't feeling self pity. Meanwhile HM is a chronic enabler of the messes Philip makes of himself and she ignores him when he says something inexcusable. If she changed the family name because of his constant harassment (supposedly reducing her to tears over it) then she is in some ways no different from a battered wife.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: india on July 30, 2013, 09:55:25 pm
The main dynamic of the relationship is how HM seems apologetic about being Queen and makes up for it by letting Philip run the family into the ground, whether it be tormenting Charles or pretty much causing a lot of disruptions around the royal household. I know all about dysfunctional families, but this family is coming apart at the seams; HM with children from different fathers while Philip fathers kids out of wedlock and can't stop himself whenever he's around a woman, when he isn't feeling self pity. Meanwhile HM is a chronic enabler of the messes Philip makes of himself and she ignores him when he says something inexcusable. If she changed the family name because of his constant harassment (supposedly reducing her to tears over it) then she is in some ways no different from a battered wife.


You know, Kuei Fei, that's really kind of pitiful and sad.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: mysha on July 30, 2013, 11:45:43 pm
I posted on another thread, but am guessing this is the correct one

 :king:
http://www.hangthebankers.com/prince-philip-is-this-the-sickest-man-in-the-uk/


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 31, 2013, 04:30:46 am
The main dynamic of the relationship is how HM seems apologetic about being Queen and makes up for it by letting Philip run the family into the ground, whether it be tormenting Charles or pretty much causing a lot of disruptions around the royal household. I know all about dysfunctional families, but this family is coming apart at the seams; HM with children from different fathers while Philip fathers kids out of wedlock and can't stop himself whenever he's around a woman, when he isn't feeling self pity. Meanwhile HM is a chronic enabler of the messes Philip makes of himself and she ignores him when he says something inexcusable. If she changed the family name because of his constant harassment (supposedly reducing her to tears over it) then she is in some ways no different from a battered wife.
You know, Kuei Fei, that's really kind of pitiful and sad.

It is; women like HM end up like this because they choose men who they think will be strong for them, but go figure, end up getting treated horribly. Philip was someone who was already whining about his role just a few months after the wedding and the courtiers and HM's father (along with the QM) were against him as a Prince Consort.

CP Victoria of Sweden got it right and look at how good the marriage is now. Daniel is a man who has no problems taking a secondary role, has no problem carrying his wife's purse and daughter's shoes while walking two steps behind. HM should have chosen (in my view) an Englishman who didn't mind taking a step behind and with a docile personality.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Fly on the wall on August 03, 2013, 01:56:12 am
I have just met a devastatingly attractive young giant who caused my heart to flutter a bit': What our future Queen wrote as a flirtatious and carefree girl of 19

With its girlish gossiping about handsome men and parties, it is a classic example of an exchange between young women.

The writer talks of her heart ‘fluttering’ at the sight of a ‘devastatingly attractive young giant’ of an officer, and her embarrassment at busybodies listening in on her chat at parties.

But the signature at the bottom, ‘Lilibet’, gives a clue that it was not written by any ordinary young woman.


The author was none other than Princess Elizabeth, writing at the tender age of 19 in the months following the end of the Second World War – only seven years before she would become queen.

The carefree tone of the note, to her ‘darling’ cousin Diana Bowes-Lyon, is in stark contrast to the gravity of the role fate was preparing for Elizabeth.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383786/I-just-met-devastatingly-attractive-young-giant-caused-heart-flutter-bit-What-future-Queen-wrote-flirtatious-carefree-girl-19.html


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on August 03, 2013, 02:07:40 am
 :sigh:
say what you want but that sounds cute! ah young love! :flirt:


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: mysha on August 11, 2013, 04:15:46 pm
Not sure where to post this but it covers many threads. Help Mods please

Edward, like his Nephew in Law, Phil the Crout and Dobby was allegedly a Satanist, closet gay and alleged paedophile. He supposedly abdicated the crown in favour of marrying the twice divorced Wallis Simpson. At least that is what was passed off as being the reason. I believe there was more to it than that and I intend to research the matter in the none to distant future.

Edwards abdication left his  younger brother Dirty Bertie to take over the top job, a job that he most definitely wasn’t up to doing. For years, the sycophant mainstream media led us to believe that the nations favourite Granny, the Queer Mother hated Edward and Mrs Simpson (Who was without a doubt a promiscuous old banger) for forcing her husband into becoming King  and thus leading to his early death. But that was just PR bollocks.

Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, the Queer Mother was in fact anything but a kindly old lady. Neither did her contempt for her Brother in Law have anything to do with his abdication sending her husband to an early grave… Mind you, if the rumour mongers are to be believed she, herself had a helping hand in it. The story goes that she conspired with King George’s Doctor to ‘speed up’ her husband’s inevitable demise so as his death could make the first morning edition of the Times newspaper…

The real reason the Queer Mother detested Edward so much was because she was hopelessly in love with him; a fact Edward divulged himself to the Daily Mail Journalist Michael Thornton in 1971. Thornton went on to say in the article that he wrote after the Queer mother had died, that Edward had referred to his Sister in Law as a “Spiteful old soak”, a soak being a term for a hopeless alcoholic – which indeed she was.

With Mr Ed turning down her advances, shameless social climber Bizzy Lizzy the 1st was forced to accept second best in the form of Dirty Berty, a man many referred to as “the backward brother”.

Mind you, If the persistent and well documented rumours that Edward & Mrs Simpson attended sex parties where Mrs Simpson would push her Nappy clad husband around in a pram, are true, Bizzy Lizzy the 1st could be said to have had a lucky escape. Hmmm,  somehow though, I doubt she would agree.

QM is old hating Queer *nasty* drunk soak


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 11, 2013, 04:21:09 pm
Nothing surprises me with that family, so many sordid secrets coming out  -  for us thank God for the internet, for them tough luck, the lids are coming off.  Shame the internet was not around years ago, how history could have been rewirtten.  So many lives ruined for what  -  debauchery and alcohol, a very sad part of history.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: CrystalEve on August 12, 2013, 03:54:41 pm
Nothing surprises me with that family, so many sordid secrets coming out  -  for us thank God for the internet, for them tough luck, the lids are coming off.  Shame the internet was not around years ago, how history could have been rewirtten.  So many lives ruined for what  -  debauchery and alcohol, a very sad part of history.

 :tehe: Not forgetting the Royal heroin trafficking on a mammoth scale, apparently still a worldwide operation existing today!

Queen Vic apparently had a lucrative, thriving business going through the East India Company, which was established with the financial and military support of the Crown, the opium wars are still ongoing, nothing has changed really!


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 12, 2013, 04:10:32 pm
No, very sad, nothing seems to have changed for the good in that direction.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: mysha on August 12, 2013, 05:07:30 pm
If into the junk, then that ties in with business with Putin


Putin and Bizzy Lizzy are in the same club, same circle and same names, same story just different telling of it


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 21, 2013, 12:05:17 am
66 years and counting: Happy Anniversary to Her Majesty and the Duke of Edinburgh


Now married for 66 years, The Queen first met her future husband Prince Philip when she was just 13 years old at the wedding of his cousin, Princess Marina of Greece. It was love at first sight for the young princess. She stayed keen to the dashing 18-year-old naval midshipman, corresponding with him during her teens. In 1946, King George VI agreed to the marriage under the condition that the then Princess Elizabeth wait until after the Royal family’s State visit to Africa when turned turned 21.

http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/thequeen/66-years-and-counting-happy-anniversary-to-her-majesty-and-the-duke-of-edinburgh-19905


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: cate1949 on November 21, 2013, 02:39:30 am
the story bout the disabled cousins is awful - heartless really.

The bit about the QM, Bertie and Edward also has some credibility - Bertie asked the QM to marry him several times and she refused each time (til she finally said yes) when she did say yes - there are letters from her to Bertie assuring him she does really love him despite her indifference earlier - he apparently had doubts she loved him.  In these letters she even apologizes for he indifference to him earlier.  Supposedly she kept saying no because she had higher ambitions - hoping to catch Edward's eye.  But she eventually realized she was not getting Edward so married Bertie.  Bertie was referred to as the "backward brother" because he allegedly was mildly autistic hence his extreme shyness.  His stuttering was a function of the constant badgering he got from his father.

If it is true she wanted the heir not the spare it makes sense she resented Edward for his rejection of her.

As for why the abdication - wow to really know what happened there!  I wonder what the prime minster and others in the government knew of Edward?  He was already proving to be a troublesome King.  I suspect they were more than happy to be rid of him for the docile Bertie.  It really doesn't make sense that he would abdicate to marry her - she also clearly wanted him to be King.  Enormous pressure was put on him re: the abdication.  And of course - as proof that he wanted the kingship and also to make Wallis Queen - he promptly started collaborating with the Nazi's to have Bertie overthrown and have the Nazi's make him King.   No wonder the RF came to *despise* his guts.  It took many years for this to come out - he was banished to Bermuda to keep him out of further trouble when the plot was discovered.  But even in Bermuda he was still plotting and they eventually discretely put him under house arrest until the war's end.  It was the US that found out about his plotting - and they were of course very ticked off.  Midst of a war and the former King is plotting to turn the UK over to the Nazi's?  Hence Bermuda - off the coast of the US so they could keep an eye on him.  He was a traitor - a monstrous collaborator with the Nazi's and he should have been tried for his crimes and shot like any common traitor - but it was too scandalous so was covered up until the German archives were opened to historians and the story came out.

The whole image building of the two of them as tragic lovers - absolute crock.


And of course - as a young man Charles was sympathetic to Eddie and Wallis - actually spoke publically in their favor and tried to affect a reconciliation - guess he did not know about the treason business.


Title: Re: Kate Living With Her Parents/Family Chat Thread
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 15, 2014, 07:32:37 am
HM didn't evne get her own husband in line; she let her husband blow through dozens of beds with dozens of different women and let him bully Charles as a child.

HM wasn't even in line herself. There are persistent rumors that Andrew is the result of a daillance between the Queen and her Master of the Stables. Forgot his name but Andrew is apparently a spitting image.
And Edward was the result of a rekindling of the marriage between the Queen and DoE.


Title: Re: Kate Living With Her Parents/Family Chat Thread
Post by: Val on October 15, 2014, 08:03:40 am
^ Lord Portchester - now deceased I think but yes was the spitting image.


Title: Re: Kate Living With Her Parents/Family Chat Thread
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 15, 2014, 09:13:17 am
Thanks! Indeed, Lord Porchester. Father-in-law of Jack Warren, the present Racing Manager of the Queen.

Lord Porchester was his courtesy title during the lifetime of his father. He was the 7th Earl of Carnarvon and owner of Highclere Castle (aka Downton Abbey).
The grandfather of 'Porchy' as the Queen named him, was the famous Earl Carnarvon who unearthed the tomb of King Tut.


Title: Re: Kate Living With Her Parents/Family Chat Thread
Post by: Rosella on October 15, 2014, 09:25:01 am
Prince Andrew looks no more like Lord Porchester than I do! That's yet another of Lady Colin Campbell's lies. Prince Andrew resembles George V and has the Windsor teeth. The Queen is a deeply religious woman. Prince Philip's been the only one for her since she was fourteen years of age. She's the last person on earth that would be unfaithful to her husband. 


Title: Re: Kate Living With Her Parents/Family Chat Thread
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 15, 2014, 10:19:40 am
This rumour has been going around since the 1980's, I heard it when I was staying in the UK in the summer of 1988 for a language course. I was in a guest-family and the father of the family was a younger son of a British peer. He was the one who told me about this rumor.

Lady Colin Campbell wasn't writing her books in those days, her first royal-related book was published in 1992 about Diana.


Title: Re: Kate Living With Her Parents/Family Chat Thread
Post by: Rosella on October 15, 2014, 11:54:21 am
I didnt say Lady Colin began the lie, she just spread it by publishing it. The woman loves these rumours, the more outrageous the better, as a hook to sell books. There is no resemblance between Porchester (as he then was) and Andrew, and it was said that the rumour made Porchy absolutely incandescent. The Queen has a small circle of close friends and he was one of them.


Title: Re: Kate Living With Her Parents/Family Chat Thread
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 15, 2014, 12:24:22 pm
And yet I heard the rumour before the books of Lady Colin Campbell (BTW I read that she divorced Lord Colin almost 40 years ago, seems odd she is stll using his name and courtesy prefix, has he ever protested against it?) and it was discussed out in the open among the peerage back then obviously.

As for the truthfulness of the rumor and the likeness between them; if you want to see a likeness, there will always be one. I myself don't see a real likeness other than the roundish shape of the head (in this regard Prince Nadrew doesn't resemble his siblings who have a more pointy head). Just like I don't see a likeness between Harry and Hewitt other than the red hair, that also runs in the Spencer-family.

ANyway, this is going OT...sorry Moderator!


Title: Re: Kate Living With Her Parents/Family Chat Thread
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 15, 2014, 04:21:37 pm
HM didn't evne get her own husband in line; she let her husband blow through dozens of beds with dozens of different women and let him bully Charles as a child.

HM wasn't even in line herself. There are persistent rumors that Andrew is the result of a daillance between the Queen and her Master of the Stables. Forgot his name but Andrew is apparently a spitting image.
And Edward was the result of a rekindling of the marriage between the Queen and DoE.


I refuse to believe that the Queen EVER dallied!!    :hi:


Title: Re: Kate Living With Her Parents/Family Chat Thread
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 15, 2014, 05:13:28 pm
No one is perfect, not even The Queen. And I can imagine that when confronted with the affairs of her husband, she must have been devastated, especially since she loved (and adored) Philip. She probably put him on a peddlestone (not strange since she was 14 when they met and 14-year old girls tend to do that). And all of a sudden her family-life was blown to smithereens when he cheated.

Looking for comfort with another man at that time...it could have happened. But not so much because she fell out of love with Philip but because she was devastated.

Anyway, we will never know for sure and it is one of the things I applaud and respect in the Queen and Duke: they realised that their marriage was more than a contract between two people but that it also represented the monarchy.
If only Charles and Diana had realised this we would not have to discuss Kate because she would, at the most, only been a short-time fling of William from way back when.


Title: Re: Queen&DoE Relationship
Post by: KGap on November 25, 2014, 07:39:42 pm
Despite it all 67 years of marriage is a massive achievement!


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 12, 2016, 09:27:17 pm
Prince Philip savages Phil: How king of daytime TV Schofield met his match when he was offered interview of a lifetime with the Duke of Edinburgh (who shared some unseen royal home videos)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4022926/How-king-daytime-TV-Phillip-Scholfield-met-match-offered-interview-lifetime-Duke-Edinburgh.html#ixzz4Sf4k6z5e
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Secrets to Queen and Prince Philip's happy marriage revealed in tell-all documentary
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/secrets-queen-prince-philips-happy-9440464


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: Alexandrine on December 12, 2016, 09:58:11 pm
'Happy'...


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 12, 2016, 10:34:14 pm
^ Yes, I would question that, obviously airbrushing out all PP´s "misdemeanours", HM had a few of her own.  Not been an easy marriage over the years.  Maybe now they are in their 90´s, but for many a long year it was all a facade.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: leogirl on December 13, 2016, 12:22:58 am
Every marriage has its problems. It's just that HM and PP come from a time when people worked through their problems, and today people encourage each other to divorce.  :dontknow:

Look at Facebook feeds if you want a reminder of facades... people usually post good things and leave out the bad (not going to post if they had an argument). You think everything is fine and then suddenly they change their status to "separated" or "divorced".


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 13, 2016, 09:54:24 am
^Yes, aware that many have facades. Facebook is one hotbed of facades, I worked that one out several years ago.  People hide behind anonymity on there for sure, pretty obvious not everyone has the happy life they want us to think they have. Personally I think too many make their lives public on FB, not my style to tell the world what I think they might want to know, whether fact or fiction.

In HM and PP´s day they just turned a blinde eye to many things, made a life for themselves and only came together for family/official functions.  In Buck House that would not be difficult, could go months without seeing one another if they wished to.  For the average Joe on the street it would not have been quite so easy, and people just had to suck it up and get on with it, there was no rushing for divorce (big stigma attached to divorce in those days).  I have a friend who runs a newsagent business.  Just last year he and his wife visited a customer (couple in their 90´s), two identical papers delivered daily. Concerned it might be a mistake.  The wife answered the door, invited them in. Turns out she and the husband can´t stand the sight of one another, he lives at back of house, she at front and rarely see one another, and of course each has their own newspaper.  Apparently lived like that for donkeys years but only the one newspaper.  However, they fought over it one day hence the 2nd newsaper ordered.  What a sad way to live your life really, and all for appearances.

HM and PP were fortunate they could live seperate lives and keep up the facade. Also helped I would imagine because until the advent of the internet/smart phones with camers, social media, etc. etc. we knew very little about what they got up to behind the palace walls.  Everything hushed up and press forbidden to print.  Unfortuantely for them we are now in an age where it is very difficult to keep things hidden, as they have found out for themselves.   Maybe in the last 20 years or so they have rubbed along together as friends, but a "happy" marriage, I very much doubt that.  Maybe happy in themselves in their own way and doing their own thing, I will buy that.  I did read somewhere that she was grateful to him for supporting her over the years, so at least she had that from him.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 13, 2016, 02:53:47 pm
Remember when Prince Philip took the royal yacht for a cruise around the world with some of his pals for about a year.  Obviously, he was "separating" from his wife at that time.  They did reconcile when he came back (and made his point to her) and Andrew was born.  Although some say Andrew isn't Philip's.  Anyway, I think Elizabeth and Philip do love and depend on each other, but they also had periods of estrangement but were able to go their separate ways without too much comment.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: Alexandrine on December 13, 2016, 02:56:06 pm
Yes, I do. And the constant rumours of cheating. But first of all I do not think they would have married if he had money and she was not the next queen. Plus Mountbatten.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 13, 2016, 03:13:36 pm
It was an arranged marriage and frankly I wonder if whether or not Elizabeth loved him, or just wanted to own him. She was supposedly thirteen when she set eyes on him and I often wonder now if whether or not she just wanted him like she wanted a toy and basically decided to end up with him as her husband. In the world in which they live, she held higher rank and she was heiress to the most prominent monarchy in the world. Not easy to refuse.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: HRHOlya on December 14, 2016, 05:11:01 pm
^^^ Whaaat?? He sailed off for about a year???  :- I think it's common knowledge that they had very rocky patches, even shown recently in The Crown, but to leave like that is too much! I don't know too much of their marriage, but boy some of the things that I am reading here.. I know a bit, but not that much, anyway, I would have thrown more than just a shoe after him...
So you think that Liz had her own "transgressions"? I have read that she is "devoted" and very religious, so that doesn't seem to fit then.. And it was always sadly socially acceptable for a man to wander off, but not women.. Though in the aristo circles it wasn't that unusal for both parties to have their side pieces, as long as the heir (and spare) was provided. But them as royalty to do it is somehow still different. And wasn't her family against her marrying him also for fear that he might cheat?


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 14, 2016, 06:25:51 pm
^^I've always thought the story was that she was the one that insisted upon marrying him. Didn't the family *despise* him and only went through with it to avoid the possibility of elopement?


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 14, 2016, 10:10:21 pm
If you read this link you will read a little about HM and PP, plus the state of their marriage. Some refute it, others don´t.  I have read variations on this them on many sites/blogs, and the story rarely varies, and also if you look at photos it is quite interesting.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.talk.royalty/PXjkJT4MvJ8

If you have a look in Google images, lots of photos re the above.

Interesting, just found this on Google and it goes back to this forum in 2013

CrystalEve:
July 13, 2013, 09:55:21 pm

This is not about William, but on the same topic, and I didn´t know where else to post it.  Please admin feel free to move it elsewhere.  Interesting though, to publish this on the date damien was supposedly due.  An illegitimate brother for the Duke of Kent.  Look how long this secret has been kept.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2362442/Revealed-The-secret-illegitimate-brother-Queens-cousin-got-pain-knowing-real-parents.html


Their deceptions and secrets go back many generations.
Andrew's real father is racing Manager to Queen Elizabeth from 1969 until his death.
Henry George Reginald Molyneux Herbert, Earl of Carnarvon also known as Lord Porchester.  
A very close friend of the Queen, as described in the Telegraph, or a very, very, close friend of the Queen as described at Yahoo Answers.  Google on 'Lord Porchester' and you will feel unclean before you've even clicked on any of the links.
Whilst we are on this topic Prince Edward's biological father was someone called, Baron Patrick Plunket.
Anyone interested to view photos I will post if need be.
Knowledge is power and we are no longer kept in the dark.
The internet is one big nightmare for this oppressive power and unfortunately too big for them to suppress.


http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.info/images/articles_images/recalling_royal_secrets/image_5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.info/content/sitenewsreadmore/infobox/news/template/default/active_id/1134&h=172&w=293&sz=10&tbnid=Kmh9rYBdzQwblM:&tbnh=68&tbnw=116&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dprince%2Bandrews%2Bfather%2Blord%2Bporchester%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=prince+andrews+father+lord+porchester&usg=__RX1hFS1jsrGFMXp11AMd4noTYDw=&docid=yDNc7g9wH2-FwM&sa=X&ei=o67iUfq0A8Sm0wWRtIDYCw&ved=0CC8Q9QEwAA&dur=4470



Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: Mandosiel on December 14, 2016, 10:24:48 pm
Not entirely following purpose of ^ this post but just to prove a point and no further.

Which is why I don't get why people say Harry looks like Prewitt when he takes after Philip when we was younger. He is a Mountbatten/Spencer mix, not that D and Phil got it on, but obviously it skipped a generation and Harry got his looks.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/4a/97/bc/4a97bcc680f692e068b6d15c5a7e547a.jpg (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/4a/97/bc/4a97bcc680f692e068b6d15c5a7e547a.jpg)


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: deGuernsey on December 14, 2016, 10:31:52 pm
^ I have never understood why anyone could ever believe Harry is Hewitt's son. Both PH and PW look like Charles and like PP as the pic you provided illustrates.  :dontknow:  And I won't go there with the Molyneux chap. Just because.   :tehe:


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: Mandosiel on December 14, 2016, 10:36:05 pm
People will always believe what they want to believe. Only similarity between Harry and Prewitt is they both have red hair.

As dor the other stuff...definitely see the resemblance but can't say for certain.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: sandy on December 15, 2016, 12:55:04 am
Red hair runs in the Spencer family. Harry's Aunt Sarah has the same shade of red hair.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: Mandosiel on December 15, 2016, 01:11:39 am
Harry has a cousin that just got married not that long ago that looks just like him and has since they were kids. Sarah's son I believe, forget his name.

Back on topic, I never knew that about Andrew and Edward. :-


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: leogirl on December 15, 2016, 01:46:06 am
Yes, he was away for a year doing duties. I think the separation helped them because they were fighting a lot and needed a cooling-off period. Elizabeth becoming Queen so young and so soon into their marriage was very difficult for them.

The thing about Andrew and Edward is that they both look like their mother and her side of the family. I don't think HM would cheat, she seemed to be very devoted to Philip even though they had their problems.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: cate1949 on December 15, 2016, 06:15:07 am
agree - I rather doubt HM would cheat - certainly not cheat and get pregnant.  She is a woman of faith and is devoted to Phillip.  Sure they had ups and downs all marriages do - but this seems to me to be a woman who takes her vows and duties seriously.  Don't belieb  it for a second.

Given a bunch of things - the Harry rumors are nonsense IMHO.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: Mandosiel on December 15, 2016, 06:45:32 am
Dont think she'd cheat either. I just never knew they had rumours swirling about somebody else being their father like Harry did.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 15, 2016, 09:50:39 am
Actually, I personally can quite believe she did cheat.  Not judging her at all, with a husband like him who could blame her. And why the discussions re HM closed to the public for 100 years, that makes no sense, Not a fan of HM at all, however in the circumstances if she got some comfort and happiness from someone other than phil then who am I to sit in judgement of her.  Many of us stray from the path at times, we are none of us perfect.  Divided opinion - some believe, some don´t, time will tell with the papers are released, but I sure won´t be around in 2059 to find out, and by that time, if true, then it will do no harm to HM at all.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: kolkomilko on December 15, 2016, 10:06:25 am
^ I do agree.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: meememe on December 15, 2016, 10:45:16 am
It wasn't a year. It was about 5 months from October 1956 to March 1957. The first purpose of the trip was to represent The Queen at the opening of the Melbourne Olympic Games and then to visit a number of overseas territories that weren't reachable by land.

The government and The Queen had decided that she wasn't going to do another four month trip but there was no reason why Philip shouldn't do one.

That there were strains in the marriage is understandable.

Whether Philip ever strayed - possible.

Whether the Queen would have cheated on Philip and had a child - possible but highly improbable.

Philip was certainly around at the time of the conception of both Andrew and Edward and is closer to both of them than he is to his eldest son. Would any man, who had any doubts about the paternity of his child/ren, be closer to them than to the child about whom there is no doubt whatsoever?



Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: leogirl on December 15, 2016, 11:34:40 pm
Yes, it would be quite interesting for her to get herself knocked up by another man with her husband in the next room.  :-  She was so busy that every minute of the day counted, sometimes couldn't even fit in a trip to use the restroom. When are her months off? August/September? December/January? Andrew was born in February 1960 and Edward in March 1964. I could be wrong, but I think it's very unlikely that Philip isn't their father.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: Val on December 16, 2016, 05:38:37 am
^

There were very strong rumours that Lord Portchester QE's late racing manager was the father of Andrew.  The likeness is striking too.  It's is said that one of the reasons that QE hasn't rattled any cages re the Midds shenanigans is because a lot of this would come out along with the fact that Helen Roget, the French cook was the mother of the QM and her younger brother.  Too many skeletons in the cupboard to risk allegedly.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: marion on December 16, 2016, 08:10:03 am
^I should think there are more skeletons in that famliy's cupboards than the local graveyard.

Phiilp wouldn't need to be out of the country for betty to get herself knocked up by another man.


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: leogirl on December 16, 2016, 10:13:54 am
Obviously not, but him being close by would be a bit weird, would it not? And her being so busy during the day (not kidding about barely having time to use the restroom) and with him at night, together most of the time, when would she have time for an affair during the months that Andrew and Edward would have been conceived? Her holidays are in August/September and December/January... which would mean the birth months would be May/June or September/October. Not February and March.

I think Elizabeth loves Philip too much to cheat. She had a crush on him since she was 13. He has always been the man in her life. They could have separated even if not officially divorced, and assuming they both make it to then, they'll celebrate their 70th anniversary next year.

IF it turned out that the QM was born out of wedlock, that wouldn't have an effect on anything because she was the consort and not the heir. The heir has to be legitimate; consorts don't reign. And how would the Midds know about HM's mother? Would they dig up her body to do a DNA test to see if the claim was true?


Title: Re: The Queen and The DoE: News and Photos II
Post by: sandy on December 16, 2016, 03:35:19 pm
^

There were very strong rumours that Lord Portchester QE's late racing manager was the father of Andrew.  The likeness is striking too.  It's is said that one of the reasons that QE hasn't rattled any cages re the Midds shenanigans is because a lot of this would come out along with the fact that Helen Roget, the French cook was the mother of the QM and her younger brother.  Too many skeletons in the cupboard to risk allegedly.

The only thing is the QM is the image of her mother (not a French cook).


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: Alexandrine on December 17, 2016, 04:37:54 pm
Moved some comments here.

I also disagree that QE cheated. I think she is super religious and traditional and cheating would be against her morals.



Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: FrederickLouis on February 02, 2017, 12:46:11 am
Her betrothal to Prince Philip was a joyous occasion for Princess Elizabeth.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIyhwDSWK-E         :loveshower: :loveshower: :loveshower: :loveshower: :loveshower:


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: cate1949 on February 02, 2017, 01:21:47 am
I think people look for scandal when there isn't any - I do not doubt they had ups and downs in their marriage - who does not?  But the Queen would not cheat - too much at risk - too religious and too much a sense of duty.  Not to mention how much she adores PP. 

Even if HM cheated - do you really think she would be stupid enough to have gotten pregnant?  Under what circumstances does anyone think PP is the sort of man to raise another man's child as his own? 

Then there is the reality that Edward is a true Windsor in his appearance - and while Andy escaped the balding gene - he otherwise looks like a Windsor.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: Val on February 02, 2017, 10:45:06 am
One of QE's most famous comments about PP was that she expected loyalty not fidelity.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 02, 2017, 06:23:51 pm
^ Yes, I remember that comment well.  IMO randy andy looks just like his alleged bio father.  As for who fathered Edward, no reason why he still can´t look just like his mother is there, hence the windsor look, and for all we know he might have the temperament of his alleged bio father.  If philip could have multiple affairs then why can´t HM.  She had the heir, presumably bio father philip.  Plenty of help and support to bring those two into the world, all hidden behind palace walls.  And maybe HM could be stupid enough to get pregnant, not the same facilities in those days for sexual protection,  not like now. Anything is possible, and as none of us were in on what was going on we none of us are qualified to say what is the truth or otherwise, we can only say what aour opinion is, which does not make us right or wrong, we just donñt know.  I am not convinced they are philips children, but then to be honest it doesn´t bother me one bit who their father was, doubt we will ever find out now, only the looks to go by.  Philip probably has lots of look alikes all over the place, he was very free and easy with his favours, and from what I have read over the years not too fussy who the women were either.  His dirty deeds were common knowledge all over town, and always being gossipped about.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: india on February 02, 2017, 06:57:36 pm
As far as who the fathers of Andy and Eddie are, blood will always out. You can't hide looks.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: leogirl on February 09, 2017, 01:34:54 am
I think both Andrew and Edward look like their mother.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on August 03, 2017, 01:06:16 pm
Portrait of a 70-year marriage: Christmas cards sent by the Queen and Prince Philip over the years go up for auction - giving a poignant glance at the enduring bond between the couple and their family

    Collection of Christmas cards sent by the Queen and Prince Philip between 1971 and 2001 is to be auctioned
    Captures senior royals ageing over the decades and shows the Queen and Philip with their growing family
    First card shows the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh with their four children, then aged between 7 and 23


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4756560/Christmas-cards-sent-Queen-Prince-Philip.html


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: sandy on August 03, 2017, 01:59:17 pm
I always thought Andrew looked like a heftier version of Prince Charles. I think Edward very closely resembles William.



Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on August 03, 2017, 02:02:37 pm
Edward and Will are quite similar, though Ed is also the spit of Liz and Louise has quite the resemblance to Liz too, through Ed of course.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 03, 2017, 05:28:27 pm
I think they both have a look about them of their alleged bio fathers.  The will have Windsor in them via their mother of course.  Doubt philip would care who their father was, he just wanted to be out and about doing his own thing, living the high life without having to earn it.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: leogirl on August 03, 2017, 06:01:02 pm
I see they have Edward in short boy shorts.  :-X

And HM's signature looks like "Elijabeth R"


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: Spotted Dick on August 04, 2017, 08:01:15 am
Isn't that the sexual culture in these circles?  Don't they look at monogamy as part of middle class mores?  I have no doubt there are probably lots of "deviations" in the lineages of many of these families.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: leogirl on August 05, 2017, 02:51:43 am
 :ick:


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 08, 2017, 08:56:36 pm
Anne looks great in the pic from 1972.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: Little light on August 08, 2017, 09:03:31 pm
She does and Zara I see her double.

And it's intriguing that Mark Phillips is in the photographs but none of Diana or Sarah Ferguson.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on August 08, 2017, 09:33:02 pm
^ I thought the same; we have Christmas photos/ official Christmas cards and no daughter-in-law, ever. But both of Anne's husbands made it....
To me it reinforced the idea that's often repeated, that even though you marry in, you're never truly in.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: meememe on August 08, 2017, 10:07:19 pm
The article did mention that the 1981 Christmas photo was Charles and Diana's wedding picture.

There are a few other years missing as well in the 1980s - e.g. 1986 - which may also have been one with Sarah and Andrew's wedding.

I saw many of these in 2002 as they were on display at Sandringham House for the Golden Jubilee and the 1981 one was definitely of Diana and Charles on their wedding day.



Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on August 08, 2017, 10:17:01 pm
^ That's good to know. Wish they had that included properly, the pics shown certainly make for an imbalanced image.. This is one of the few times I skipped the text, the dm rarely writes anything noteworthy in these types of articles and the pics disrupt the flow of the text  :shy:


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 13, 2017, 12:52:19 am
Philip's comment about an outfit that made the Queen blush, how she uses her corgis to avoid tricky conversations and why the Duke loves a BBQ: An intimate portrait of the Royals 70-year marriage

    The Queen blushed at Prince Andrew's wedding in 1986 when Prince Philip complimented her outfit
    She often copes with her shyness in social situations by dipping down to feed her corgis under the table
    Philip enjoys barbecuing on the Balmoral estate - while the Queen insists on doing the washing up


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5075769/An-intimate-portrait-Royals-70-year-marriage.html


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 14, 2017, 08:57:38 am
Why a footman gave Andrew a black eye and it was the Queen who was livid with Edward for quitting the Marines: More intimate details from the royals 70 years of marriage

    The boy closest to the Duke of Edinburgh's heart is his youngest, Prince Edward
    Edward had to face rumours that he was gay and wasn't forced into the Services
    But his mother was furious that he quit the Royal Marines after just four months


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5079315/Queen-livid-Edward-quitting-Marines.html


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: dianab on November 14, 2017, 10:54:31 am
the queen lucky out that edward is spitting image of hers.... already andrew... well ... btw a fair article would have had photos of the queen with lord porchester and baron plunket :nervous:


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: CathyJane on November 14, 2017, 05:49:44 pm
Except for the teeth, Andy is the odd man out; he doesn't look like any of his siblings, yet they all look like family.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: CathyJane on November 14, 2017, 05:58:39 pm
Whenever Liz passes (and I hope it's not for another decade!!) she going to have to face her sister, whom she refused permission in wanting to marrying Townsend an equerry while she gave permission to her daughter to do just that.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 14, 2017, 06:20:45 pm
Not to veer too OT  :shy: Margaret had permission, but would have to give up some of her status & privileges, so decided against marrying Townsed.
I think Liz will have to face some people, but for more serious reasons  :spy:


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: Rosella on November 14, 2017, 07:03:49 pm
^^ Andy's got the huge Mountbatten chompers. Lord Mountbatten's sister, Louise, who married the King of Sweden had some that dominated her whole face.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: meememe on November 14, 2017, 08:05:16 pm
Whenever Liz passes (and I hope it's not for another decade!!) she going to have to face her sister, whom she refused permission in wanting to marrying Townsend an equerry while she gave permission to her daughter to do just that.

Times had moved on between the 1950s and the 1990s.

If they hadn't then anyone getting a divorce would have to fight it out in court and have a 'guilty' and 'not guilty' spouse, homosexuals would be being sent to prison, the death penalty would still apply in many civilised countries as well as the barbaric ones, children would be leaving school in their early teens, life expectancy would be in the 60s not 80s etc etc.

The very fact that Anne was able to do something that Margaret couldn't shows that the BRF had moved with the times.

Of course HM would have told Margaret all about the permission to Anne's second marriage before it took place seeing as she remarried in 1992 while Margaret died in 2002 so HM won't have to 'face Margaret' in the afterlife as she has already dealt with that issue face-to-face in this life.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: sandy on November 14, 2017, 08:51:01 pm
In many ways I would say the royals have regressed with the times. In the eighties, I would say the Queen and immediate family knew about Camilla, yet sanctioned a marriage of Charles and 20 year old Diana.  Also, the Queen chose to ignore the ramifications of Charles' involvement with married women. And things just deteriorated from there. I don't think the Queen thinks divorces "OK" I think she just tries to make the best of a bad situation. There was still an Edwardian influence on Prince Charles who followed the mores of that time where it was "OK" for a Prince to have a mistress and the wife needed to put up and shut up. This clashed with 20th century views of marriage where the wife should not have had to put up and shut up. I would not say Charles' situation was necessarily better. The problem is I think Charles did not move with the times. And many of the attitudes of the royals did not move with the times either.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 14, 2017, 10:51:37 pm
He looks like a plum pudding! What Prince Philip exclaimed to the Queen after Charles was delivered by Caesarean... as revealed in the latest part of our intimate portrait of their 70-year marriage

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5082919/What-Philip-exclaimed-Queen-Charles-born.html


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: sandy on November 15, 2017, 11:47:02 am
Oh Oh. Charles is going to start whining about that!


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: Little light on November 15, 2017, 09:07:57 pm
I never knew PC was born by Caesarean section


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: Rosella on November 15, 2017, 10:19:59 pm
Yes, that was a big surprise to me too. It's not mentioned in any bios I have ever read. I wonder where Ingrid Seward got her info from? Of course the QM had a ceasarian with the Queen and then a natural birth with Margaret so it's not that unusual, I suppose.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 15, 2017, 11:37:19 pm
So what is the truth about Philip and those 'affairs'? Latest part of our portrait tells how rumours have dogged the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh's 70-year marriage

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5087027/So-truth-Philip-affairs.html


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: dianab on November 16, 2017, 06:02:25 pm
if it's true i'm not remotely surprised:

fast_Castle, London, United Kingdom, 5 minutes ago
Back in the sixties, a professor I knew was friendly with the Queen's psychiatrist. He said that Philip's infidelity caused her problems.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5087027/So-truth-Philip-affairs.html#ixzz4ycR6sWpv
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Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on November 16, 2017, 06:31:10 pm
^How could it not cause her problems?


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 16, 2017, 09:06:19 pm
People insist there's never been any proof that Phil (or Liz for that matter) cheated, but imo it's important to note that things were easier to keep quiet than they are now. People also had greater respect for the monarchy and were more likely to keep quiet if they knew something or dismiss sth as "gossip/ rumour".
It was also normal in those circles to cheat, still is. Chuck and Camz anyone?

Though I find the allegation he cheated with Penny Romsey idiotic, they are related as far as I know, and I doubt if she had been a mistress she'd still hang around.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: YooperModerator on November 16, 2017, 10:03:26 pm
Men, usually, in positions of power will abuse that power to please themselves (see recent news and the world since Adam/Eve).  PP was wealthy, attractive, athletic, a flirt, active, little brakes on his behavior, no real defined purpose/job for a while, has/had a strong wife with a definite job description and women adored him.  What are the odds in all those years of marriage that he didn't have a liaison to simply enjoy himself?  Please. 


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: dianab on November 16, 2017, 10:22:16 pm
People insist there's never been any proof that Phil (or Liz for that matter) cheated, but imo it's important to note that things were easier to keep quiet than they are now. People also had greater respect for the monarchy and were more likely to keep quiet if they knew something or dismiss sth as "gossip/ rumour".
It was also normal in those circles to cheat, still is. Chuck and Camz anyone?

Though I find the allegation he cheated with Penny Romsey idiotic, they are related as far as I know, and I doubt if she had been a mistress she'd still hang around.
Even with all respect/veneration for the monarchy there were always too many stories about him. He was according to several sources having affairs with actresses, showgirls et al... he was indeed since 1950s often seen in pubs.

"Another woman with whom the Prince has been romantically linked is Hélène Cordet, formerly Helene Foufounis. They became friends as children when they spent holidays together at her parents’ villa in Le Touquet, France.
Helene, who became the hostess of the BBC variety show Café Continental, had two children while separated from her first husband, but refused to reveal who their father was. So when Philip elected to become godfather to both, some assumed that it must be him.
Despite this, Helene allowed the paternity of her children to remain a mystery — though one of her sons has flatly denied that the Prince is his father."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5087027/So-truth-Philip-affairs.html#ixzz4ydU6GeJr
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Charles also is godfather to the sons of Kanga and Camilla... that Philip had, at least, a affair with this french lady is a given IMO


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 16, 2017, 10:50:16 pm
^^ Well put.

^ You're quite right.
Penny as rumour is imo idiotic, but the actresses, showgirls and others are rather likely.
Interesting how they became godfathers to their mistresses' children...

How Diana's marital misery and Hollywood-style glamour sparked an angry rift between Philip and the Queen

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5090807/Princess-Diana-sparked-rift-Philip-Queen.html


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: dianab on November 16, 2017, 11:58:00 pm
THE VERY BEST PART OF THE ARTICLE:

According to Diana, after much careful detective work, she came to believe Philip had illegitimate children whom he supported financially ¿ though their identity, she said, was never going to be allowed to come to light. Needless to say, no shred of evidence has ever emerged to support any of these claims."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5090807/Princess-Diana-sparked-rift-Philip-Queen.html#ixzz4ydsT7Bou
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Surprised that Ingrid S has balls to write that  :spy: :cookie: :spy:

It looks like Diana had found about the paternity of Helene Cordet's children... and maybe some more :laundry:

PS. The sons of Kanga and of Camilla are also named 'Charles' :flirt:


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: sandy on November 17, 2017, 12:14:05 pm
People insist there's never been any proof that Phil (or Liz for that matter) cheated, but imo it's important to note that things were easier to keep quiet than they are now. People also had greater respect for the monarchy and were more likely to keep quiet if they knew something or dismiss sth as "gossip/ rumour".
It was also normal in those circles to cheat, still is. Chuck and Camz anyone?

Though I find the allegation he cheated with Penny Romsey idiotic, they are related as far as I know, and I doubt if she had been a mistress she'd still hang around.

I don't think it "normal" to cheat in the circles not everybody does and it's still wrong. Plus the royals perhaps had to inch out of the Edwardian outlook one time or another.

Charles felt "entitled" to cheat. Which is very wrong. IMO. I don't think the Queen found Philip's "normalcy" refreshing. But she was in control and he could not force her out.

The mistresses naming Charles as godfather to their respective children is really gross. But it is all very "civilized" to them.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: Rebecca on November 17, 2017, 03:10:12 pm
I think it is quite strange that people still think Philip is so wonderful.. He really sounds like an *butt*, IMHO.  bignono


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on November 17, 2017, 03:12:54 pm
^Based on how I've seen Philip treat journalists, I wouldn't want to be in the same room with him. He seems so mean spirited and arrogant.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: dianab on November 17, 2017, 06:51:25 pm
^racist and misogynistic too

People insist there's never been any proof that Phil (or Liz for that matter) cheated, but imo it's important to note that things were easier to keep quiet than they are now. People also had greater respect for the monarchy and were more likely to keep quiet if they knew something or dismiss sth as "gossip/ rumour".
It was also normal in those circles to cheat, still is. Chuck and Camz anyone?

Though I find the allegation he cheated with Penny Romsey idiotic, they are related as far as I know, and I doubt if she had been a mistress she'd still hang around.

I don't think it "normal" to cheat in the circles not everybody does and it's still wrong. Plus the royals perhaps had to inch out of the Edwardian outlook one time or another.

Charles felt "entitled" to cheat. Which is very wrong. IMO. I don't think the Queen found Philip's "normalcy" refreshing. But she was in control and he could not force her out.

The mistresses naming Charles as godfather to their respective children is really gross. But it is all very "civilized" to them.
IIRC the Kanga's son is named Charles... oh of course there's Thommas Charles Parker Bowles. Andrew Parker Bowles is/was no doubt was a proud husband AND father!

I'm afraid in about 5 (or 10) years the illegitimate children of Philip will be all over the newspapers


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on November 17, 2017, 08:37:34 pm
^Me thinks once the Queen goes, everybody's illegitimate kids will come out the woodwork.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: sandy on November 18, 2017, 12:36:32 am
There's Janet Jenkins' son Jason who is rumored to be Prince Charles'. Maybe he will appear. And Philip's kids.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 18, 2017, 06:49:02 pm
PLATELL'S PEOPLE: A 70-year lesson on how NOT to divorce

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-5094801/PLATELL-S-PEOPLE-70-year-lesson-NOT-divorce.html


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 19, 2017, 12:06:25 am
The very picture of devotion: The Queen and Prince Philip pose for affectionate 70th wedding anniversary portrait celebrating the most successful marriage in British royal history

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5096311/Queen-Prince-Philip-pose-70th-wedding-anniversary.html

Here's the new picture

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/18/20/467C0FC200000578-5096311-image-a-2_1511037899986.jpg

Certainly a big milestone, sincere congratulations to Liz & Phil!  :box: :newyear:


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: sandy on November 19, 2017, 12:56:28 pm
Such hyperbole!  Did they forget the happy marriage of Victoria and Albert, who are royals. "Bertie" and Elizabeth?

happy marriages don't often depend on longevity.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 19, 2017, 09:16:30 pm
^ True, the pic also isn't warm, the one they recreated was warmer.. Oh well  :king:

An anniversary canter! The Queen, 91, enjoys a Sunday morning horse ride at Windsor Castle as she prepares to celebrate an incredible 70 years of marriage to the Duke of Edinburgh, 96

    The Queen was spotted enjoying a leisurely Sunday morning horse riding session in Windsor Great Park
    Her Majesty, 91, comfortably cantered on her black fell pony as she followed Head Groom Terry Pendry
    Tomorrow marks 70 years to the day since the Queen and Prince Philip were married at Westminster Abbey
    Royals wed - in front of eyes of the world - on 20th November 1947 and now celebrate platinum anniversary
    New image of Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh, taken at Windsor Castle last month, has been released


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5097389/Anniversary-canter-Queen-enjoys-horse-ride-Windsor.html


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 19, 2017, 11:30:29 pm
Duke's mischievous look of utter devotion... and a picture of love: Three new portraits of the Queen and Prince Philip are released to mark their 70th anniversary as glorious colour images show how it all began

    Three new 70th anniversary portraits were taken by British photographer Matt Hollyoak at Windsor Castle
    Queen, 91, and Prince Philip, 96, pose against a platinum background to mark the very special anniversary
    The sequence of three photographs sees the Queen wearing a cream Angela Kelly dress and the Scarab brooch in yellow gold, carved ruby and diamond given as a personal gift from the Duke to the Queen in 1966


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5097929/Anniversary-portraits-Queen-Prince-Philip-released.html

The new pics

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/19/17/4682393400000578-0-image-a-42_1511111631378.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/19/17/4682392200000578-0-image-a-41_1511111631332.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/19/17/4682391500000578-0-image-a-43_1511111631504.jpg

Also

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/19/22/4682FB3400000578-5097929-image-a-1_1511131386857.jpg
(looking at their wedding pics)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/19/22/467C0FA000000578-5097929-image-a-16_1511131929121.jpg
(wedding London 20th Nov 1947)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/19/22/4682FB1700000578-5097929-image-a-3_1511131394258.jpg
("The Royal Family arriving at the Royal Naval College in Dartmouth. Left to right: Prince Philip of Greece, Princess Margaret, Queen Elizabeth, King George VI and Princess [Elizabeth]"
How young she was! Just a kid and in love with Phil)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/19/22/4683215400000578-5097929-image-m-9_1511131416711.jpg
(in Kenya 1952)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/19/22/4682FB1300000578-5097929-image-a-10_1511131427047.jpg
(Engagement announcement)


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: FrederickLouis on November 20, 2017, 01:46:24 am
^The engagement announcement picture is one of my favorites. How the Princess looks up speaks volumes!


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on November 20, 2017, 03:13:00 am
^She was absolutely smitten.


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: deGuernsey on November 20, 2017, 03:17:23 am
^^ Will you post the pic I've never seen it. :flower:


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: HRHOlya on November 20, 2017, 09:31:40 am
Seven decades of platinum portraits: As the Queen and Prince Philip celebrate their 70th wedding anniversary, Getty archivist charts their marriage with his pick of the couple's most memorable images

    Monday November 20th marks the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh's milestone 70th wedding anniversary
    The young Princess Elizabeth married Prince Philip at Westminster Abbey in November 1947, aged 21
    Matthew Butson, vice president of the Getty Images Archive, selects his favourite photo from each decade
    Includes a family day at the polo in 1967, and an intimate portrait of the couple at Windsort in 1982


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5093433/Getty-archivist-s-favourite-photos-Queen-Philip.html


Title: Re: Queen & DoE Relationship
Post by: dianab on November 20, 2017, 02:57:53 pm
In 1950s pics she had a natural (not forced) body language with him. Already him, you can see he wasnt into her but was doing what he needed (to get that grand lifestyle). It wasnt something natural (his body language) in him but as if he had playing for the cameras (which he probably was). But her pics with the babies/toddlers Charles and Anne she's totally uncomfortable.

BTW nowadays she's completely forced (smiles, body language, everything) including with Philip. Her smile is just genuine when she is around her corgis and horses.