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Title: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: Finished!
Post by: The Chocolate Princess on April 30, 2011, 04:10:34 pm
 
 
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William will return to his job as a search and rescue helicopter pilot next week before the couple finally jet off on their overseas honeymoon at a later date. They will probably travel to the Queen's Balmoral Estate in Scotland.

After spending their first night as a married couple together at the Palace, they walked out of the Palace casually dressed hand in hand this morning.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382174/Royal-wedding-honeymoon-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-fly-helicopter.html#ixzz1L1GGMQGk

They look relaxed and happy -and even hold hands!  :sigh:

 



Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: June on April 30, 2011, 04:17:29 pm
What else were they supposed to do with all the cameras around?  :June:


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: benign on April 30, 2011, 04:43:36 pm
so they are going for a mini vacation then...so what is WK doing next week then if PW goes back to Wales? Is she going back to her parents house or go to Wales doing grocery shopping everyday? bit surprised since PW goes off on vacation anytime he wants but cant make one for his honeymoon...  hopefully no one is sick or anything.



Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Alexandrine on April 30, 2011, 04:45:36 pm
This is so strange.... No honeymoon for real?!?!

1. It's PR and they will have two months of holiday god knows where. Or 2. Something is not going well in the House of Windsor.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: The Chocolate Princess on April 30, 2011, 05:09:16 pm
Here is an article of The Sun with a video of Wills + Kate walking to the helicopter :camera:

 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royalwedding/3557085/Were-off.html 


I bet they will go to an secluded island...


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: June on April 30, 2011, 05:38:09 pm
I don't think so because it would be too hard to disguise that William is not at work.  :cookie:

benign: $60M question - what is Kate going to do all day? Well, the same things she has been doing for the past 8 years, ie nothing.  :rolleyes:

She won't go into meetings with staff without William; that doesn't seem to be on the agenda yet.  :think: He's asking for two years off, so something is amiss.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: benign on April 30, 2011, 05:50:08 pm
arent PC and HM going somewhere next week? One to the US and one to the IReland...

another thing, Could WK somehow find a dress thats not too short? Shes a duchess so little cover up would really be nice and make her looked little elegant not WAG looking.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 30, 2011, 06:04:07 pm
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benign: $60M question - what is Kate going to do all day? Well, the same things she has been doing for the past 8 years, ie nothing.


Which will now put her on the taxpayer dime, go figure. Now her fans can't say that she isn't costing the taxpayer money, now they can't defend her in that respect. If by July she isn't working, people are going to wonder when she will start. She can't just start at the Olympics, that would be illogical. She can't get away with "the Palace doesn't want her to work" line and she isn't likely to be able to cite anything that would make sense. Seeing how many engagements she does during hte summer should be interesting. She has to work, no more getting around it.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: June on April 30, 2011, 06:28:10 pm
Oh, excuses will be found and the sycophants will swallow them too. Of that, I have little doubt.  :rolleyes:


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Liza on April 30, 2011, 06:33:09 pm
The dress was shorter in back than in front.  Also I like Diana's "Leaving for Honeymoon dress better"  KM was also walking like a man.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 30, 2011, 06:35:28 pm
Note how there was no carriage send off, it was in a cheaply decorated Aston Martin. I wonder if Charles cringed at the sight of those tacky ribbons on his convertible. She will have to work though, she has no choice. She didn't get the carriage to the ceremony and it all looked pared down from what I've looked at.



Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: June on April 30, 2011, 06:36:28 pm
I read somewhere that the Queen has given them two years off.  :o


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Ella on April 30, 2011, 07:40:50 pm
I think the next few months will be:
Lay low until Canada trip, people will excuse this as the wedding just happened.
Canada trip
Honeymoon/vacation, this will also be excused as it's a honeymoon or because they just did her first tour, or some other bs reason.
Repeat.

That's how William seems to operate now, quiet until a few people being to complain about what does he actually do, then a few higher profile duties, then we hear he's on vacation or clubbing and people always dismiss it because they've just seen him work and forget that he hardly ever does.

Kate will just join him and make it easier to hide out claiming her poor little delicate-ness can't be rushed into working. :sigh:


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Alexandrine on April 30, 2011, 07:43:55 pm
They said that they were going to have two events this coming months.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: June on April 30, 2011, 07:45:01 pm
Yes, he's gotten a great deal of mileage from being deceased Diana's son. If she had not died, he would have had a much tougher time of it, methinks.  :June:


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Alexandrine on April 30, 2011, 07:46:29 pm
And Diana would be much close to her son, and wouldn't have let them do many things that the RF let them.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Nighthawk on April 30, 2011, 07:46:49 pm
Wow another vacation for these two on the tax payers dollars no dout.  What a waste of space this couple is IMO


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on April 30, 2011, 08:50:41 pm
TCP and June  -   Look at this photo. Duke William (LOL not sure how to address him now !)  WUG is NOT smiling in it.
http://royalwedding.yahoo.com/blogs/william-and-kate-leave-for-private-weekend-in-uk-honeymoon-saved-for-later-2-8435?nc



It also says he is back to work Monday.

Honeymoon "later". ?? LOL.

Her legs look even skinnier than 2 weeks ago. OMG.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Ella on April 30, 2011, 09:03:23 pm
TCP and June  -   Look at this photo. Duke William (LOL not sure how to address him now !)  WUG is NOT smiling in it.
http://royalwedding.yahoo.com/blogs/william-and-kate-leave-for-private-weekend-in-uk-honeymoon-saved-for-later-2-8435?nc
^He's still Prince William, he can just be called the Duke now as well. Kinda like how Prince Andrew is the Duke of York and can be referred to as both "the Prince" and "the Duke"

But really, you'd think he could muster up a smile. Come on, you gave her the ring, now suck it up and smile!


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on April 30, 2011, 10:12:16 pm
Ella   -   :hi:    Thankyou very much.  Yes, you know, I thought so.  But I am sure PW does NOT like being referred to as "the Duke" ANYWHERE, you know ?

It does get confusing because , for "Duke" , someone would think of him or Andrew. Then for Duchess , I think of Fergie, Camilla, now Kate.   :laugh:

I do wonder why (IF HM allegedly adores Sophie so much) HM gave the title of "Countess" to Sophie, instead of "Princess" or "Duchess" even ?? I mean, Sophie did marry Prince Edward, so go figure her reasoning right ?  :dontknow:  :think:  :o 


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Alexandrine on April 30, 2011, 10:16:21 pm
Prince Edward watched Shakeaspeare in Love, and liked so much the title of Count of Wessex that he asked the queen for that title for himself.

There has been rumours that he is going to be made Duke of Edinburgh when his father dies, but before that happens Charles must become king too.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 01, 2011, 12:17:30 am
Alexandrine    -    :thankyou:   Oh wow that explains it. AND A LOT more, in my eyes. For example, I guess HM really does strongly disapprove of KM (and PW perhaps) because HM could have listened to PW and granted "Princess Catherine" to KUG. Even PW allegedly begged..ahem..allegedly asked HM NOT to make him a Duke !  Well well well.  rofl   :tehe:   :thumbsup: 



I do NOT entirely understand the whole curtsying thing  , but does DUCHESS KATE now have to curtsy to EVERY Princess like Bea, Eugenie, CP Letizia, CP Maxima, Anne, CP Mary, CP Victoria, even Princess Madeleine ??   :dontknow:   :spooky:


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 01, 2011, 01:49:55 am
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but does DUCHESS KATE now have to curtsy to EVERY Princess like Bea, Eugenie, CP Letizia, CP Maxima, Anne, CP Mary, CP Victoria, even Princess Madeleine ??

Yes. By protocol a Duchess HAS to curtsy to the princesses in the room, by birth or marriage. She is not the wife of the Heir, but the wife of the lower ranking son, no matter how direct in line. She is not a princess since she isn't one in her own right, neither is William legally (Prince of Wales), and William is the son of the Heir, which why they referred to it as a non-state occasion.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Ella on May 01, 2011, 02:10:22 am
Again, I'm not trying to be a  :-X, but Kate is a princess and won't be curtseying to anyone, sadly.

Trust me, I wish it weren't true,  but she's a HRH, and ALL HRHs only ever curtsey to a Monarch or consort, not to one another, so not to Bea, Eugenie, Anne, Camilla, or anyone. She's chosen to go by Duchess, but that doesn't mean she isn't Princess William. She outranks Princesses Bea./Eug. privately, and all the other females in public except Camilla and HM via the official order of precedence set by the HM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_precedence_in_the_United_Kingdom


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Kezza on May 01, 2011, 02:46:49 am
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benign: $60M question - what is Kate going to do all day? Well, the same things she has been doing for the past 8 years, ie nothing.


Which will now put her on the taxpayer dime, go figure. Now her fans can't say that she isn't costing the taxpayer money, now they can't defend her in that respect. If by July she isn't working, people are going to wonder when she will start. She can't just start at the Olympics, that would be illogical. She can't get away with "the Palace doesn't want her to work" line and she isn't likely to be able to cite anything that would make sense. Seeing how many engagements she does during hte summer should be interesting. She has to work, no more getting around it.

She will, and thats why I dont believe she will be living in Wales all the time while William is on the base down there. I think the courtiers will have her closer to them so they can hopefully prepare her for doing Royal duties that she will have to do without William being by her side either in the UK or overseas. I think for now we will see her doing some Royal Duties with William like she was prior to the wedding.

As for the Honeymoon well maybe this is a red herring for the press. :spy:


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 01, 2011, 03:08:00 am
She was wearing those awful wedges, does she EVER get tired of following all the lastest trends?


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 01, 2011, 03:12:04 am
^No, HRHs everywhere only curtsey to Monarchs and consorts, not to other HRHs.

Also, Kate does have a princess title, she just won't use it. She's Princess William and Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, so she actually has an equal rank to all other princesses.

I'd be happier if she only got a Countess title because then she'd only have Princess, Countess, and Viscountess. Instead, she has Princess, Duchess, Countess and Baroness.  :thumbsdown:


Ella  -    TY. (I quoted YOU above, yet now, I do not see that post ?)  I believe, on another thread this morning, someone replied to my question about Kug's being called a "princess" incorrect and the next sentence called K a "duchess" and they confirmed THAT TITLE was the correct one.
SO, I kind of knew KM is NOT a "princess".


KF   -  Thankyou.  kisss   :hi:   Glad to know KUG must curtsy to te princesses !! That must make her angry. AWWWW.    :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 01, 2011, 03:22:42 am
Kate is a Duchess. When Fergie was Duchess of York, she was also technically "Princess Andrew," but awas referred to as Duchess, which is what Kate's rank is. Diana was "HRH Diana, Princess of Wales" because LEGALLY her husband was a Prince, not just by birth, but at the prerogative of the Sovereign, Prince of Wales and Heir Apparant.

Kate, is not by aapointment by the Soveriegn a princess in her own right and she migth be able to use Princess William, but that is like saying she's Mrs. Wales. She isn't Kate Wales because she isn't a direct by birth member of the RF. Kate is "HRH the Duchess of Cambridge because that is the title that was granted William by HM and that is as high as she's going to go for now.

In Britain she might get away with not dropping a curtsy, but frankly put, overseas she WILL have to bend the knee to the other Crown Princesses and the princesses she runs across in Europe if she wants things to go smoothly. She has to, since overseas rank is a jealously guarded prerogative and if she wants to be accepted beyond tolerated, she will have to curtsy.

Among the other princesses, she will have the lowest rank in the ballroom.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Raisie on May 01, 2011, 03:31:33 am
Among the other princesses, she will have the lowest rank in the ballroom.

Ouch,that would have to hurt her after all what she did.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: The Alley Cat... on May 01, 2011, 03:47:42 am
She wouldn't mind though, cause now she's one of them in the ballroom, let alone allowed in.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 01, 2011, 03:58:35 am
IN europe, she will be expected to bend the knee to Madeleine, Prince Carl-Philip, Leti, Mary, Mette-Marit, and all the rest. Now that she's officially a member of the RF, she is now required to abide by all their rules.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: berlin on May 01, 2011, 04:04:10 am
I have never, ever seen lower ranked HRHs curtsy/bow to CPs.  HRHs don't do this to other HRHs.  And how is Madeleine and CP higher ranked than Kate?


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 01, 2011, 04:15:16 am
Madeleine is a born princess and Prince Philip is the same. In Britain HRH might not do that, but in Europe the protocol is closely observed.

For example rank in a woman's own right:

Queen
Crown Princess
Princess
Duchess
Marchioness
Countess
Viscountess
Baroness
Lady (wife of a man who is knighted)

Kate is a Duchess, but only by marriage.

Madeleine is a Princess by right Carl Philip outrank her entirely in their own right. Women who are princesses by marriage hold rank above her like it or not. She is legally and by marriage a Duchess, a nothing in her own right, that is the difference. Subtle, but crucial in the ballroom.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: berlin on May 01, 2011, 04:34:34 am
Oh yeah, I forgot about the birth thing.  But I don't see Kate curtsying to other HRHs.  I've never heard or seen such a thing.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 01, 2011, 04:38:48 am
She will, whether she likes it or not and she will because it will be required by PROTOCOL! She can't pull stunts like not doing it, or trying to pull rank on the other princesses or go about leaking nasty press stories about them. She is in the ballroom, she will follow the rules of the ballroom.


Title: Re: Newlyweds William&Kate left by helicopter for their mystery honeymoon
Post by: Magnolia on May 01, 2011, 05:05:36 am
Photo OP holding mummy's hand I mean wifey her smiling at the camera even their hand holding looks odd. :June:


Title: William is to whisk Kate off to a tropical hideaway
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 01, 2011, 11:54:02 pm
£4,000-a-night honeymoon: William is to whisk Kate off to a tropical hideaway

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The newlywed Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are to honeymoon in a £4,000-a-night villa on one of the most beautiful and romantic islands in the world.
Prince William is to whisk his bride away to a secret hideaway in the Indian Ocean for a ten-day holiday later this month.
It was widely expected that the couple would be going on honeymoon this week after their wedding on Friday. But at the weekend it was announced that the Duke, a search and rescue pilot, would be returning to work tomorrow at RAF Valley on Anglesey.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382587/Royal-Wedding-Prince-William-whisk-Kate-Middleton-tropical-hideaway.html#ixzz1L8zwhVmw


Title: Re: William is to whisk Kate off to a tropical hideaway
Post by: Raisie on May 02, 2011, 12:04:29 am
Oh now that they didn't get the honeymoon now the rumours will be over and over about where should be.

Well we believed it was the babies but as William wanted to work on Monday the babies rumours need to wait   lols


Title: Re: William is to whisk Kate off to a tropical hideaway
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 02, 2011, 12:18:15 am
Ugh, the tropics. EWWWWWWWWW..................................

As if Britain doesn't have enough inns, small bed and breakfast places, cabins, to satisfy a royal couple! It would be ideal and an ideal way to get to know the people who they will reign over.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles
Post by: Yooper on May 02, 2011, 11:00:23 pm
So, is he going to the Falklands or not?  What a dumb article.

$4K a night?  Spoiled brats.  Plenty of lovely places in their own country, is right.  Wow, imagine being stuck with her for 10 days.  Gag.  Y'know, I just don't care anymore. 


Title: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: True Brit on May 09, 2011, 11:49:39 pm
I do and I think it's in the Indian Ocean somewhere as one of the papers let it slip. There's a news blackout in the UK so they won't be seen or heard of now for a few weeks which is why we had all the kerfuffle last week. What do y'all think?


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Yooper on May 09, 2011, 11:53:33 pm
I hope so.  Let's get that farce over with asap.


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Ceridwen on May 10, 2011, 12:24:51 am
I kind of like the idea that PW didn't want to be alone with her and that he'd rather be with the men that he works with.   :rolleyes:  Not implying and so don't jump @ me now!!   :whistle:


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Raisie on May 10, 2011, 12:30:21 am
Who knows,when he is in the RAF we can hardly know about him so maybe i just wish that he is a man like i met in my life who cares more for the work than with a woman who made so much scandals.
If he ever goes with her,i also hope he don't go alone Ceridwen.Rather go with company (friends or whatever).


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Ceridwen on May 10, 2011, 12:33:58 am
Well, in the past, PW had tendencies to bring friends along and I don't remember him ever being alone with her.  Perhaps, he'll do the same but just won't declare them publicly.  I just don't see them as a romantic couple.  More like two people with their own agendas.


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Yooper on May 10, 2011, 12:35:17 am
Naah, I ran across an article somewhere that they were seen this week walking wherever it is they live, I can't seem to spell Angelsley (?) right.

PW's ALWAYS happier looking with his buddies or away from her.  Always.  I'm guessing he begged for a hold on the honeymoon to settle Do-Little down who, from the pics, looks like she's got Post Nuptial Depression Syndrome.

I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if his 'honeymoon' consists of the Middletons and his buddies.   She can't breathe without the attention of her family and he can't breathe stuck alone with her.  They're just friends, no more.


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: mousiekins on May 10, 2011, 12:45:00 am
Kate and William have never holidayed without the Midds or William's friends present even when he proposed in Africa there were friends there. I doubt William is suddenly wanting to holiday alone with her he may have to actually spend time with her alone and talk to her.


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Nighthawk on May 10, 2011, 12:49:46 am
Honestly I could care less what this couple is doing


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Yooper on May 10, 2011, 01:00:06 am
You're just jealous, Nighthawk!  (Totally kidding.  That's just the standard remark I get whenever I say that online).


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Ceridwen on May 10, 2011, 01:10:34 am
Naah, I ran across an article somewhere that they were seen this week walking wherever it is they live, I can't seem to spell Angelsley (?) right.

PW's ALWAYS happier looking with his buddies or away from her.  Always.  I'm guessing he begged for a hold on the honeymoon to settle Do-Little down who, from the pics, looks like she's got Post Nuptial Depression Syndrome.

I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if his 'honeymoon' consists of the Middletons and his buddies.   She can't breathe without the attention of her family and he can't breathe stuck alone with her.  They're just friends, no more.

I agree - these two always vacationed with his friends and her family.  PW sort of remind me of my brother-in-law in that he brought his friends to their honeymoon.  How romantic was that!!!   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: benign on May 10, 2011, 01:50:29 am
The Sun says they are:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royalwedding/3571345/Tropical-island-holiday-for-royal-couple-Prince-William-and-Kate.html


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The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge left their Welsh farmhouse last night after he finished a 24-hour shift as an RAF search and rescue pilot.

William, 28, and Kate, 29, had to delay their honeymoon because of his work commitments at RAF Valley in Anglesey.
- hope PW didnt invite any of his friends.



Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 10, 2011, 02:38:27 am
Perhaps he has had a surfeit of jet setting and is ready to settle down now.


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Yooper on May 10, 2011, 05:04:32 am
For me, I think PW's still trying to find his true identity.  He likes the slippers and pipe routine of his dad, but still likes to party hardy and blow off his still-there youth and rebel.  Not marriage material.  Again.  JMHO.  So, the idea of being a grown up and being with the love of his life (GAAAAAG) and being a married man who focuses on the future of two people is just not in his makeup yet.  It's gotta be distraction with friends and her/his family of whatevers to help him somehow find whatever he's looking for, but hasn't found yet and never will through anybody else but himself.

I kinda feel sorry for him.


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Nighthawk on May 10, 2011, 05:06:39 am
the media thinks they're on a two week vacation honeymoon

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royalwedding/3571345/Tropical-island-holiday-for-royal-couple-Prince-William-and-Kate.html


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Yooper on May 10, 2011, 05:10:11 am
Gosh, I hope this is true.  As I said in the beginning, let's get this farce over with.  Plus, if he's been here through the James fiasco, he obviously has no intention of giving a dam# which must drive Wasty nuts.  LOVE IT!


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 10, 2011, 06:26:12 am
For me, I think PW's still trying to find his true identity.  He likes the slippers and pipe routine of his dad, but still likes to party hardy and blow off his still-there youth and rebel.  Not marriage material.  Again.  JMHO.  So, the idea of being a grown up and being with the love of his life (GAAAAAG) and being a married man who focuses on the future of two people is just not in his makeup yet.  It's gotta be distraction with friends and her/his family of whatevers to help him somehow find whatever he's looking for, but hasn't found yet and never will through anybody else but himself.

I kinda feel sorry for him.

I don't think he still does have a sense of self, at all, which is why he's so messed up, but still carrying on.

Is there no one in the Palace that can get him to a therapist? At all?

As for not caring about the James fiasco, I am sure that Kate is secretly relieved to be away from her loony family too; I bet she wanted to marry someone, ANYONE who would get her out of their grip. Some people view marriage as the only way out of their family's control.


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Yooper on May 10, 2011, 06:35:20 am
THAT I believe, but then she stepped into another family that loathes her.  PW's the only one who thinks her family's the Tops. And she's left with, as you say, acid-faced courtiers and a very reluctant and reserved BRF HEAD.  She ain't gonna win this one whether she pops out a kid or not.


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 10, 2011, 06:53:10 am
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And she's left with, as you say, acid-faced courtiers and a very reluctant and reserved BRF HEAD.


And when he hits thirty, William will become a very, very, enraged man who thinks he has been cheated of finding something better. So soon she'll have a very angry husband to live with. As for HM, I think that she will look at Kate as the culmination of her failure to intervene to save her family from itself, so that will be something unpleasant at the dinner table.


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Yooper on May 10, 2011, 08:00:13 am
Just from my own experience, my boys didn't get it together (new generation?) until they starting hitting 30, which they are now and their whole world changed.  Suddenly, I'm fabulous and wise and they get it.  I wonder how PW's gonna do if that holds true for him.  30+ is just different now.

Gosh, I had my first child when I wasn't even 20, so I'm from a different age.  Play time is NOW for me.  That's kinda cool, actually.  Not too old, have enough money, kids raised, retirement intact, house paid for, savings, and...my turn.

My kids don't listen to this, of course.  However, PW is, to me, emotionally retarded in his growth, so I place him at about 22-ish.  He's in for a shocker.  Whoah!

My Mother's Day card said this:  "Mom, you always knew what was best for me" on the outside.  Inside, "Dammit."  HA!!!  PW really missed out on not having Diana and this will all straighten itself out.  Wasty's not a long haul.


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Nighthawk on May 10, 2011, 10:28:04 am
Wish you were heir! Prince William whisks Kate away on a £4,000-a-night tropical honeymoon 'in the Seychelles'
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1385435/Royal-honeymoon-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-hideaway-Indian-Ocean.html#ixzz1LwLgiK7F


Title: CH confirms honeymoon
Post by: Leila on May 10, 2011, 10:30:35 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13345027


Title: Re: CH confirms honeymoon
Post by: Nighthawk on May 10, 2011, 10:32:24 am
good for them I guess, 2 weeks must be nice for a honeymoon


Title: Re: Who thinks they're on honeymoon - right now!
Post by: Leila on May 10, 2011, 10:33:10 am
I started a new thread here http://royalgossip.forumprofi.de/index.php/topic,2554.msg44369.html#msg44369 now that CH has confirmed it. Feel free to merge the two. :cookie:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles
Post by: Alexandrine on May 10, 2011, 10:35:58 am
Already merged all the thread about the honeymoon :spooky:

Please follow all the discussions here  :hi:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kezza on May 10, 2011, 11:23:09 am
I hope we dont see any pics but its funny how the DM seem to think they know where they are staying. :interview:


Title: Breaking news: Prince William and Catherine to begin their honeymoon
Post by: karla64 on May 10, 2011, 01:46:30 pm
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/05/10/uk.royal.wedding.honeymoon/index.html

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/prince-william-catherine-honeymoon-072111451.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1385435/Prince-William-Kate-Middletons-4k-night-royal-wedding-honeymoon-Seychelles.html


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: karla64 on May 10, 2011, 02:03:58 pm
 
more article..

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/201105105374/kate-middleton-william-honeymoon/1/


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Nighthawk on May 10, 2011, 03:20:28 pm

Prince William and Kate Middleton honeymoon in The Seychelles: 10 things you need to know about the royal honeymoon destination
 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royal-wedding/2011/05/10/prince-william-and-kate-middleton-honeymoon-in-the-seychelles-10-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-royal-honeymoon-destination-115875-23120944/#ixzz1LxXTPYES


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Penelope on May 10, 2011, 04:45:54 pm
It would seem likely that the presidential villa on fregate island is the place, then?

http://www.fregate.com/


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Penelope on May 10, 2011, 05:07:08 pm
Apologies for double post, but this is ten thousand euros per night. That's 14.400 U.S, and £8.800 sterling. 13,300 Australian. Per night.

Austerity wedding my bottom.  is there anybody here who can tweet those figures to the masses? This is the real reason why they didn't want anyone to know what they were doing IMO!


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Raisie on May 10, 2011, 05:45:22 pm
To tell the true,after read the comments i would be agree with it but i am not as i said yesterday the fact that the press don't respect the privacy of William is the result of the royals to leak to tell all the details on the wedding.

The yesterday article was so true,once you let the press get into your bedroom it will be impossible to let them out.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: serene grace on May 10, 2011, 06:48:01 pm
It' only going to get worse over the years for these two, with each holiday and everytime Kate does NOT participate in Royal outings or Royal charity and decides to stay at home, shopping for William.  

 After this honeymoon a California trip if not done with some charitable purpose in July,  is going to not go down well, because from the comments the cost of the honeymoon is not going down completely well with the public. It was reported William wanted a austere wedding and honeymoon, supposedly in some press and now here he is back true to form, back to his old haunts.  :whistle:

True, everyone deserves a honeymoon if they can do it, but I just think in the long run this couple is not going to change,
 They will continue their holidays, in the Caribbean, Ski-holidays a few times a year and possibly a jaunt into Ibizia again, quietly under some premise. It just sounds like to me William is always going to do what he wants, regardless of what his advisors tell him.

I wonder how long before we hear, that the Middleton's helped pay for the honeymoon or some other payment scenerio to stop the public complaints about Royal spending.





Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 10, 2011, 07:01:33 pm
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My Mother's Day card said this:  "Mom, you always knew what was best for me" on the outside.  Inside, "Dammit."  HA!!!  PW really missed out on not having Diana and this will all straighten itself out.  Wasty's not a long haul.

If Diana had been in a better place than cavorting with one of her many lovers, I am sure she would be. She should have started spending her free time with her sons rather than with a bunch of rich jet setters. She would still be alive then.

As for the honeymoon, I see that the UK wasn't good enough, what with all the dazzling vistas and the inns, the small nook/cranny bed and breakfast places, then of course the Palaces (evidently not good enough) and then there's the endless time they could spend on base, secluded and cosseted by security and privacy.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Nighthawk on May 10, 2011, 07:55:16 pm
Inside Kate Middleton's Royal Honeymoon suitcase...
While Kate Middleton and Prince William relax on their honeymoon in the Seychelles, we dream...
http://www.ok.co.uk/fashion/view/35426/Inside-Kate-Middleton-s-Royal-Honeymoon-suitcase-/


Will and Kate Depart on (Not-So) Secret Royal Honeymoon
http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/b241010_will_kate_depart_on_not-so_secret_royal.html#ixzz1LyeuEOvb


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 10, 2011, 08:17:57 pm
I can't log on to website from laptop for some reason so I can't use links to prove my point from phone.  But whoever listed the pricing is right. $4k is an outright lie if it's the Seychelles. No way.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 10, 2011, 08:51:31 pm
KF  -  I totally agree with you about Diana. Even though I loved reading about her and seeing her photos and her wedding was magical, I DO criticize her for the jet-setting with playboys, also. Her boys were young teens. I assume PC was very cold and preoccupied.


Other than nature, privacy, eco-friendly et al, sorry but these islands do NOT interest me. I am NOT into solely fish and fruits anyway, but I'm sure PW can get a nice cut of steak if he wants it. I guess Paul McCartney (with Heather) and other Beatles too preferred it there for total PRIVACY. 

I would prefer Paris France or St. Barts. But I'm sure The Duke & Duchess of Travel will make it there too.

BTW, something seems VERY conflicting.  In Our Humble Opinions, if we think PW was pressured and possibly blackmailed/threatened by the Midds family, then WHY do certain posters on here also claim PW LOVES the Midds ?? (sorry I cannot recall or pinpoint any poster in particular, but you know what I mean ? Some do believe in the "alleged blackmail for the ring and title" conspiracy/theory (as I do too) yet think PW adores Mr & Mrs Midds ? Am I wrong ?


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Raisie on May 10, 2011, 08:56:59 pm
BTW, something seems VERY conflicting.  In Our Humble Opinions, if we think PW was pressured and possibly blackmailed/threatened by the Midds family, then WHY do certain posters on here also claim PW LOVES the Midds ?? (sorry I cannot recall or pinpoint any poster in particular, but you know what I mean ? Some do believe in the "alleged blackmail for the ring and title" conspiracy/theory (as I do too) yet think PW adores Mr & Mrs Midds ? Am I wrong ?
I agree with you,:dontknow: there is something sure,we don't know nothing about Prince William's feelings about Kate nor the Midds(and all this love he has is sell from the tabloids that know exactly the same thing as we know ...NOTHING!).We believed he was blackmail because we feel strange this wedding still again is just a theory.

Still one more time the only one who know he love the Midds is William,and what happen with the wedding only William and perhaps HM as well.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 10, 2011, 09:04:41 pm
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BTW, something seems VERY conflicting.  In Our Humble Opinions, if we think PW was pressured and possibly blackmailed/threatened by the Midds family, then WHY do certain posters on here also claim PW LOVES the Midds ?? (sorry I cannot recall or pinpoint any poster in particular, but you know what I mean ? Some do believe in the "alleged blackmail for the ring and title" conspiracy/theory (as I do too) yet think PW adores Mr & Mrs Midds ? Am I wrong ?

Just a difference of opinion.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: karla64 on May 10, 2011, 09:14:06 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/may/10/royal-honeymoon-secret-blown-seychelles

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St James's Palace refuses to confirm that Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are honeymooning in the Indian Ocean


http://www.metro.co.uk/news/862920-prince-william-and-kate-arrive-in-seychelles-for-royal-honeymoon


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 10, 2011, 09:21:01 pm
Raisie and KF   -  Thankyou.   kisss


I guess maybe they went on the honeymoon after they read OUR speculations about WHY no honeymoon ? Lmao. Oh I give us way too much power on here, huh ? BTW, vacations DO get old if you take one every other week. Ho hum.   :spooky: 

(I love that little dancing thingy, it has such a great attitude ! ) >    :spooky:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Raisie on May 10, 2011, 09:23:33 pm
I am start to feel that the honeymoon rumours will in the same way that the engagement rumours  lols

I do believe they are just that the press doesn't know in which part  :June:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 10, 2011, 09:26:38 pm
I'm really surprised at how little I care about this/them right now.  Go, play, spend, spend, spend. 


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 10, 2011, 09:54:12 pm
I would loathe going to the tropics all the time.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Lady Artemis on May 10, 2011, 09:58:23 pm
Kate is starting to make babies!!! That is if she can!!!  :P Perfect opportunity aghhhhh how I detest this circus!!! P.W. put this circus up he should bring it down along with his ugly duchess!!!  :nomorekate:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Black Queen on May 10, 2011, 11:34:54 pm
I would loathe going to the tropics all the time.

^^ Yes I've lived in the islands all my life and I'm tired of the same old thing...


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kezza on May 10, 2011, 11:48:52 pm
Dont be surprised if those topless pics of pippa have been used as a way of distraction. :camera:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: serene grace on May 11, 2011, 02:15:27 am

William LOVES, LOVES LOVES the Middleton's, even more than Kate possibly. They come as a package(and that is going to be a problem, sooner or later.)
According to that Vanity Fair article, William is besotted by this family, Especially CAROLE!!!

Look at how he joked with Michael Midds at the wedding alter, William is in deep with this family. They all wooed him, IMO. I've always felt it was a group project.....so this honeymoon with Kate alone, might get a bit boring.  lols



Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Ceridwen on May 11, 2011, 02:21:39 am
Serene Grace  :thumbsup:  You got that right, it was a "PW Project 101" and like a fool, PW got taken in.  Carole knew what she was doing and that she took advantage on a young man who grew up with a terrible childhood.  

PW loves this family so much that he's treating his own like sewer IMO.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: serene grace on May 11, 2011, 02:32:10 am
Hi  :hello: Ceridwen

I know I *despise* that William spent Easter with the Middleton's, why not go to church with the Queen, His Grandmother is getting up there in years, she probably would have liked having him there.   :king:


  My sister wondered why William didn't have one of Diana's neices, Earl Spencer's daughter's(his cousins) do something in the wedding along with Pippa?  :Kate:

I told her no way would that have happened , Kate was probably too insecure to have one of the tall, blonde Spencer daughter's standing near her.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Ceridwen on May 11, 2011, 02:41:21 am
 :hi:  Serene Grace...I think you're right in your assessment in that Kate is too insecure to have another lady (besides her own sister), especially a beautiful young lady like Diana's niece.  She would not want the attention to be taken away from her! 

I think it's a Middleton decision to have just Pippa there because it's also Pippa's moment and opportunity to catch a husband or @ least advertised herself.  I know she has a boyfriend but titles are what counts in the Middleton household (IMO).  After all, Carole did state a few years back that it's her wish to have one of the York princesses for Jimbo (yeah, like that's going to happen).   :laugh: 


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 11, 2011, 06:17:31 am
I don't know, really, now after reading about the Spencer girls' risque life in SA, they may be "Lady this or that" and they are young but I just do not approve of their (alleged) behaviors. Well, ok I saw the (gross) dancing poses myself in the photos, so it is NOT "alleged".
IMHO, they are acting just as cheapo as KM was. In fact, with their platinum hair, I would say Kate looks better.   :hide:  :whistle: 
They remind me of 3 Anna Nicole Smiths.

Are there any decent, sober girls anymore ? I saw Tiffany Trump on Oprah and she is just the most sweet, well-bred, down to earth girl ever. DT's daughters never drank or hung-out after hours. Gotta hand it to him, Marla, Ivana too.

About the honeymoon, I do hope Duchess Kate can get pregnant and have a healthy child.  Let's get this show on the road.   :thumbsup:  :spooky:

 



Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 11, 2011, 06:31:17 am
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Are there any decent, sober girls anymore ?

There are, but they don't get the guys anymore.

Forgive my cynicism, but these days it is supremely difficult to have a career first, then a relationship with a successful man. These days, men like William seem to prefer tarts over ladies and sincerely think that they owe a woman a ring, no matter how irresponsible the woman is. There's nothing wrong with being successful and moving on, past people who don't, but for some strange reason, responsible men seem to prefer women who ruin their lives and rescue them.

Decent, sober girls are basically marginalized now in favor of women like Kate. Decent women are usually viewed as boring and immature and are looked over, for the same reason 'nice guys' are looked over. It's because they are not aggressive enough or aren't good at marketing themselves or they don't have the 'toys' that are wanted. Some women aren't out there interested in mainly getting a man, they have livings to make for themselves and careers. Others are late bloomers and just need more time and patience.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 11, 2011, 06:39:47 am
I hear you, KF   :loveshower:    :hi:   So true. And Facebook is ridiculous, it seems every girl has to pose with a DRINK ! Geeeeezz. Get original, ladies huh ??

I thought the tarty girls were the ones the great guys never married ?  :ick:

Back to the honeymoon, I am serious when I say I HOPE K does NOT drink. She could be pregnant already. Think of a healthy normal baby.

Now, I need to get some sleep.   :spooky:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 11, 2011, 06:51:38 am
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I thought the tarty girls were the ones the great guys never married ?

I have no clue on how things went to pieces. Even in the nineties, there were still standards and expectations, but now it's just a total mess. You used to know where you stood in regards to behavior and even Charles' flings knew better (models, beauty queens, etc.) than to expect more since they knew his position had requirements. I am shocked at how things have changed in so short a time and while men complain about women going for the jerks, it's the same with men. If William had dropped her again, he could have done the rounds with male magazines, explaining that he simply didn't want ot marry her and that he had never made her put her life on hold. Men would have understood a lot more and in time, many women would have understood.



Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Nighthawk on May 11, 2011, 01:31:38 pm
Seychelles, a dull honeymoon ghetto for grim-faced newlywed
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2011/may/10/seychelles-dull-honeymoon-ghetto

Royal honeymoon secret blown by Seychelles tourism chief
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/may/10/royal-honeymoon-secret-blown-seychelles
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Accompanied by a police Range Rover piled high with luggage, the duke and duchess were seen leaving Anglesey in north Wales on Monday, after he had returned to his job as an RAF search and rescue helicopter pilot for a brief stint, from which he has now taken two weeks' leave.

A spokesman for St James's Palace said: "We are not confirming and we are not commenting on speculation on where they may be going on their private honeymoon. We are just confirming that they have gone."

Interest in the honeymoon will test relations between the royal family and the press, as concerns have grown over media intrusion after the couple's wedding. Over the weekend, the media reported on William's role in the rescue of a retired judge who had a heart attack while walking on Snowdon. The Middleton family complained to the Press Complaints Commission on Monday after photographs of Kate and Pippa Middleton and their mother, Carole, in bikinis while on holiday with William on a yacht off Ibiza were published in four newspapers – the Mail on Sunday, Daily Mail, News of the World and Daily Mirror.

The honeymoon destination has been kept a tight secret, but after the arrival of the couple early on Tuesday for a 10-day holiday, a Seychelles tourism official spilled the beans, confirming that their presence and the fact that they had been taken by helicopter from the Indian Ocean destination's main airport on Mahe to a private island, where they are expected to hole up in a private bungalow.



Royal honeymoon: Prince William and Kate Middleton to get around Seychelles island on old bikes
 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royal-wedding/2011/05/11/royal-honeymoon-prince-william-and-kate-middleton-to-get-around-seychelles-island-on-rickety-old-bikes-115875-23121689/#ixzz1M2xfVDF4


Title: Can royal couple outfox the paparazzi?
Post by: Nighthawk on May 11, 2011, 02:18:06 pm
Can royal couple outfox the paparazzi?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13352806
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The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have begun their honeymoon at a destination widely reported to be in the Seychelles. But having tried to keep the location secret, can they still avoid the attentions of the paparazzi?

There is near insatiable demand across the world for pictures of the royal couple.

And there will be paparazzi who will be desperate to get long-lens shots of William and Catherine on the beach during their honeymoon.

The Palace has asked for the couple to be left alone, with the privacy debate having intensified in recent days after the publication of five-year-old photos of them on a yacht off Ibiza, prompting an appeal to the Press Complaints Commission. A month before the yacht pictures, Carole and Pippa Middleton also complained informally to the PCC that they'd been harassed by snappers on mopeds.

Secrecy has shrouded William and Catherine's honeymoon plans but speculation that they are in the Seychelles appears to have been confirmed by the tourist board there. Which of the 115 islands in the Seychelles archipelago they are on is not clear.


since this couple wants their privacy so badly then take the tax payers money away from them and allow them to have that privacy they so suely need :bored:  PW shouldn't be a part of the Royal Family if he's going to constantly play cat and mouse with his wife and the press  JMO


Title: Re: Can royal couple outfox the paparazzi?
Post by: rogue on May 11, 2011, 02:57:49 pm
Outfox ;That is were the problem lies,they need to stop playing games with the media.They are only going to make things worse.Will the public (regardless whether people like them or not ) allow them to be harassed ?I don't think they will.All they need to do is work and be present and give the press their snaps, not hide away in Wales.


Title: Re: Can royal couple outfox the paparazzi?
Post by: Yooper on May 11, 2011, 03:15:05 pm
I heartily agree.  PW's vengeance with the media and arrogance and fighting the establishment isn't going to work.  Just move on, do your job, and everything will settle down.  If you push the media, they'll push back.  Anybody would.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 11, 2011, 03:52:36 pm
I'm going to have to agree with Nighthawk's link about grim-faced newlyweds.  I've been to a couple of spots maybe not as expensive as the Seychelles, but the Mayan Riviera, Cabo, south of France and after a few days, the newlyweds have all looked downright miserable and kind of let-down.   I spoke with one woman, pool-side, while her new husband was getting a drink and she said, "Enough already!  We're getting on each other's nerves in all this quiet."  Not to say that WK/PW aren't having the time of their lives, but I don't see them able to survive without their support networks and stuck together for 10 days without it getting repetitive.

For me, it would've been less costly and probably more fun to honeymoon right at home, secluded, but near their friends if they wanted to do some group activity.  These two don't seem to be able to enjoy things without a crowd.  JHMO.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: royal_watcher05 on May 11, 2011, 04:15:56 pm
Really? grim faced newlyweds? oh man ..I do know that married couples who do intl volunteer projects seem to have a rough go of it as they end up spending a lot more time together then they are used to  and in very close quarters.
Well some asked if there are any decent sober girls left? Right here!! ME :)

As far as the honeymoon, another tropical paradise sounds wonderful, but it seems very much in keeping with thier destinations of choice. Oh why not branch out and explore?


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: royal_watcher05 on May 11, 2011, 04:24:51 pm
hmm... I didn't put that emticon in my post? Just a regular smiley, how odd. Though I like it  :legs


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 11, 2011, 07:02:36 pm
I heartily agree.  PW's vengeance with the media and arrogance and fighting the establishment isn't going to work.  Just move on, do your job, and everything will settle down.  If you push the media, they'll push back.  Anybody would.

I'm more than sure that hte courtiers are more likely to push back than the media, you see if they don't.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 11, 2011, 07:12:21 pm
I hope you're right, KF, but they haven't gotten very far so far.  I think the media (US) will end up being pretty ruthless after the 'fake tan' glow of her wears off and they get some real closeup shots of her in the US. 


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 11, 2011, 10:08:41 pm
If William and Kate mainly hang out with celebrities and snub the Washington scene and seeing the real America, America will dismiss them the same way they do entertainers.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 11, 2011, 11:54:13 pm
Wasn't there some yap about them stopping in Washington to see the President?  There's no news on that here.  All that does is sanctify the REAL reason for coming, so Wasty can hang out with her celeb friends and show up at some fake-o charity.

She's already referred to as a celebrity in almost every article that begins with "Princess Kate...and then compares how much more glamorous, whatever than any other CELEBRITY.  It's a gag-a-thon here with my friends.  They are just sick that they're coming here and how the press will go apesh#t over it and it's all such a LIE. 


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 12, 2011, 06:40:14 pm
Will & Kate's $1 Million Honeymoon

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For the sake of privacy, the couple reportedly chose the lush, private expanse of Fregate Island Private. The resort can accommodate a maximum of 40 people, with 16 villas that cost between $3,880 and $5,700 per night, as well as a presidential villa that comes with a price tag of $14,400 per night.


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The couple, who chose to delay their honeymoon slightly, reportedly arrived via private jet—an easy $100,000 or so round-trip, depending on the model they flew, to Mahe Island airport. They then transferred to Fregate Island via a 20-minute chartered helicopter—a service that costs $2,400 each way for a copter that holds up to 10 passengers.

http://powerwall.msnbc.msn.com/politics/will--kates-1-million-honeymoon-1688065.story?gt1=43001

In this economy no less.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: karla64 on May 12, 2011, 10:07:16 pm
The $ 1 million royal honeymoon: an intant guide

http://news.yahoo.com/s/theweek/20110512/cm_theweek/215221


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Alexandrine on May 12, 2011, 10:29:14 pm
 :o If at least they were spending this in UK


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 13, 2011, 02:53:53 am
Again, this sounds harsh but I'm having a harder and harder time figuring out why nobody stops this.  The people b#tch on comments but that's all. IOW the world will accept and support this as long as you do. It's frustrating not seeing more action taken against so much disrespect to the taxpayers and those who work for them.  The are rich because of YOU!


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Post by: Perfume on May 13, 2011, 07:38:59 pm
Wasn't there some yap about them stopping in Washington to see the President?  There's no news on that here.  All that does is sanctify the REAL reason for coming, so Wasty can hang out with her celeb friends and show up at some fake-o charity.

She's already referred to as a celebrity in almost every article that begins with "Princess Kate...and then compares how much more glamorous, whatever than any other CELEBRITY.  It's a gag-a-thon here with my friends.  They are just sick that they're coming here and how the press will go apesh#t over it and it's all such a LIE. 
I read a local article here in South Africa saying she is going to be bigger than the late Princess Diana, I was sick to my stomach, she is not up to holding sick babies or doing charity work. Her idea of being the "most famous wife" in the world is to be found hobnobbing with the rich and famous, and if she does meet up with the President & First Lady of the USA, what will be her topic of discussion, how up to date is she with current affairs. Just curious :)....gosh I sound like a jealous person lol lol


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Post by: Yooper on May 13, 2011, 07:57:57 pm
You don't sound jealous.  You sound like somebody with a rational brain.  The Prez and First Lady will be gracious and do what is best, keep the conversation on Wasty's level.  She won't have much time, though, so that's good because her vast knowledge of anything other than her wedding and honeymoon will take up the 15 minutes the President has.  I think he has, last I heard, other things to do.

Isn't it nice and quiet without them around?  I mean the whole world seems to have calmed since they're not visible.  The birds are even chirping again.  This wasn't a honeymoon for them but a vacation for we, the World.


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Post by: karla64 on May 13, 2011, 09:21:50 pm
http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-208615.html


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Post by: Yooper on May 13, 2011, 09:32:17 pm
Awesome!  Any chance they'll stay there for, I dunno, ever?


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Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 14, 2011, 06:57:32 pm
http://royalwedding.yahoo.com/blogs/will-and-kates-royal-honeymoon-prepare-to-be-jealous-9196

"Be prepared to be jealous"  (of THEM, stuck together in 600 acres of foliage and coconut trees ?) Not I.   :spooky: 

Sorry. Not my cup of tea, personally.


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Post by: Ceridwen on May 14, 2011, 07:59:10 pm
I'm not jealous but yup, this is my cup of tea.   :sigh:  My husband and I (with our kids of course)   :flower:  always have an annual tropical island vacation. :sigh:


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Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 14, 2011, 08:16:59 pm
Ceri  -    :hi:  Oh yes THAT is nice. But this island they are on seems totally uninhabited. I prefer St. Tropez, St. Barts, Fiji even. I mean, I do love to shop. We don't travel that much, really, we have been to St. Barts for our honeymoon and Fiji Islands only once. (I am NOT a sun worshipper. I try to stay out of it totally).  Actually, I am NOT even sure what else W & K's island has on it. I just prefer a nice villa or hotel.   :spooky: 


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Post by: Ceridwen on May 14, 2011, 08:25:15 pm
Hi Lanvin Pearls,  :thankyou:  I agree that the island that they're on appears to be "uninhabited."  I guess they just want to be completely alone - well, not completely since they're surrounded with royal body guards but they probably don't want to be around locals to gawk @ them. :dontknow:  I've never been to St. Barts (sounds lovely)  :sigh:  but Fiji islands are just pure heavenly.   :flower:  I try not to be sun worshipper but it's difficult when you have a husband who is.    :BFF:


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Post by: Yooper on May 14, 2011, 08:51:48 pm
Enough already with the 'jealous' angle.  No, I'm not jealous and, no, I wouldn't want to be either of them.  Ever.  It looks like a crashing bore to me and I'm bettin' they're getting a little itchy being with each other non-stop.  Nice break for the bodyguards, tho.

As for this being $4k a night, if they're using the whole island, somebody better re-do their math.

Fiji is FABULOUS and I'd go again in a heartbeat.  It's hard to beat La Jolla, where you can snorkle or beach it or go skiing all in one weekend.  The truth is, they should be jealous of all of us.  Sorry, but freedom of movement in society is priceless.

Hmmm.  I may check up on a trip to Fiji now that I think on it.  But, I need a new laptop first!  Gotta WORK for it, y'know.


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Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 14, 2011, 09:07:38 pm
Yooper  -    :loveshower:   You are lucky. La Jolla is probably the perfect place to live. We love to just go to our little home in Nantucket for a few weekends in the summer (sometimes fall). Family uses it too. It is a tiny cottage BUT I like that look. Only 2 bedrooms and a loft. I just LOVE ocean air and the gardens so much.

I wonder if Carole is with them on the island ? There sure is enough room. (besides Carole most likely had to make sure all birth control pills are thrown into the ocean. Lmao)    :spooky: 


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Post by: mousiekins on May 14, 2011, 09:11:17 pm
Not jealous either.

I love culture and history. My holidays are full of exploring new places and visiting all the historic sites such as Museums, art galleries, historic houses and off the beaten tracks.

As pretty as the picture is I know that within 2 days I would have died of boredom.


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Post by: Yooper on May 14, 2011, 09:25:44 pm
Lanvin - thanks!  Nothing like it that I've been able to find in the US anyway that suits my tastes.  And working at the Prado (museums) balances things out nicely.  Now, if I could only get my mother out from under my feet, it would be heaven.

But, I, too, would be bored to tears after 2 days on that island.  10 days!  Insane.  I've done that stuff.  And it realllly gets old.  And, I think I mentioned it, but it bears repeating.  In all of the times I've vacationed on these islandy places, the newlyweds look happy for about 2 days and then they just look like they've had enough or start drinking like maniacs.  Remember my one lady who said to me, pool side, something like, "We're going to drive each other nuts if this continues one more day."  And they were the one couple who seemed and probably are the most in love.


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 15, 2011, 02:15:56 am
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But, I, too, would be bored to tears after 2 days on that island.  10 days!  Insane.

The tropics are fun if you want to escape some sort of constant pressure, but if you want a genuinely solid place, cabins and woods are the best. Second, the money they are blowing on that place could easily be saved if they vacationed in the UK and put all that money at inns, beds/breakfasts, or lived at the Palace and adjusted to the routine of her new life. William could hunt and Kate could enjoy being waited on hand and foot.

The tropics are for the jet set and the chintz types, NOT someone who genuinely wants to rest and relax.


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Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 15, 2011, 04:35:39 am
Mousie  -  Fantastic !   :spooky:   I love your idea of what a holiday SHOULD be. I, too, love exploring museums, galleries, architecture (especially in France and Italy) and hiking interesting trails whether in Canada or here at home even. I love offbeat, artsy places and could NEVER just bask in the south of France or the big ole island PW & KM are on. Ooops sorry, I meant The Duke & Duchess of DoLittle.   


Yooper  -  You are lucky to have your mother !   :flirt:


I can see it now. Waity cracking open cocnuts and pouring the milk into a lounging Duke's mouth, then peeling his grapes. Oh wait. She must have SOMEONE to do that for HER now too. Lmao.   lol


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Post by: Yooper on May 15, 2011, 06:45:09 am
Lanvin - no offense, but would you want to live with your mother and take care of her 24/7?  It ain't all roses and buttercups.

However, I was thinking about PW riding around on that golf cart by himself.  I'll bet he's had it.  He likes people around and probably misses his buddies and the RAF stuff.  A little of Wasty goes a lonnnnnng way.  And it's not like they have anything new to discover about each other.  It's a huge waste of money, to me.


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Post by: True Brit on May 15, 2011, 11:53:56 am
Hope thishasn't already been posted but this honeymoon is costing £45,000 a night.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royal-wedding/2011/05/15/royal-wedding-prince-william-and-kate-middleton-honeymoon-island-costs-45-000-a-night-115875-23130864/


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Post by: Yooper on May 15, 2011, 05:29:43 pm
Thanks, TB.  I'm SO glad somebody finally had the ba##s to print the actual price of this setup.  Even in my own preliminary search, the $4K a nite was absurd and anybody who believed it was duped.  Again.

And that doesn't include all the other nonsense like the private jet.


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Post by: mousiekins on May 15, 2011, 05:38:27 pm
£45,000 well that is twice my annual salary  :bored:


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Post by: Earth Angel on May 15, 2011, 05:41:49 pm
I am entirely baffled by the fact these two are pretending to be down to earth, yet indulge in such splendor. Being a good Christian, no matter what denomination, is just as much about self denial as it is about charity. Will they ever possess temperance or restraint? ...

I know I've posted the following video before, but it illustrates what $150,000 could do for others. Imagine what the funding for this vacation could have done, had these two had enough instinct to do what is right by others. I don't expect them to live like saints, but some common sense would do the world some good! And to think that William will one day be the head of a Christian church.  :-

http://youtu.be/FDmPcSWE0WU



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Post by: True Brit on May 15, 2011, 05:46:47 pm
If you search you will find this man called Farhad Vladi - he's German and he's the one who has confirmed they are staying at one of his properties. Someone said a while back on this thread that it is Fregate Island (may have been Penelope or Anne Elliott) and all the evidence is pointing to it. They would have hired the entire island not only for security purposes but there will be a number of (taxpayer funded) security personnel with them.

Yes someone will have images I have no doubt but the UK press won't publish them. Suspect this is why Pipster is doing a decoy trip to Madrid with ex George Percy and some girlfriends so she can deflect attention from the price of all this. Makes you laugh when you see headlines about how thrifty the Royal couple are...nOT!

http://www.vladi-private-islands.de/rent/site/html/cms_de-pub_mietregion_en-0-20/

Fregate details

http://www.vladi-private-islands.de/rent/site/html/cms_de-pub_detail_miet_en-236/Fr%E9gate+Island.html


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 15, 2011, 07:02:57 pm
If he's spending that much a night, then it adds up to 315,000 pounds total for seven days. Add in security, it goes up to a million pounds, I'm sure, more if they are renting the entire island for themselves.


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Post by: Yooper on May 15, 2011, 07:25:57 pm
Easily over $1M, KF.  The security is paid by the taxpayers, I think, which will be huge, but wouldn't PW pony up for at least a portion of his own honeymoon?  I would think/hope so.  Think about your own vacations.  The lodging is just the tip of the iceberg.  It's an important component, but there's a lot more to add in.  Do the taxpayers, for instance, cover that private jet/transportation?  They have a right to know.  This is a toughie because whoever does the accounting is going to have a headache trying to break it down. 

Either way, it's over the top and really rubs it in people's faces, to me, that he's an elitist to the bone. EA's right.  The good that could be accomplished with that money makes my head spin and is infuriating, working in philanthropy as I do.  And for a measly 10 days?  If the people of the UK STILL believe that they're all down-to-earth and homespun folksy folks, then they need more help than he does. 


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Post by: mousiekins on May 15, 2011, 07:35:46 pm
10 day at £45,000 is £450,000 add the security accommodation for the 6 bodyguards (3 each) which is nearly another £450,000. That is over £1 million easy

Then add plane fare which will be first class of course  :blabla:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 15, 2011, 07:41:09 pm
The private jet, I read (I'll find it if challenged) ran in the $200,000+ area.  Not sure if that's round trip, tho.  Does the UK pay for that?


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 15, 2011, 07:49:32 pm
If it's ten days, then put frnakly that is a lot more than what I put down. Then it would make it 450,000 pounds, plus security. It would be interesting to find out in time how much the taxpayers are paying.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: mousiekins on May 15, 2011, 08:02:28 pm
We are paying all security costs including the Bodyguards accommodation


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Post by: Yooper on May 15, 2011, 08:21:44 pm
Yikes, Mousie.  I still wonder how they break that down.  It's some creative bookkeeping, of that I'm sure.   


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 15, 2011, 09:16:15 pm
We are paying all security costs including the Bodyguards accommodation

Mousie, at what point will the Brits take out the torches?


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Post by: Raisie on May 15, 2011, 09:31:48 pm
 lols i see already all Britain doing as the French did,sound awful because i am monarchist :sob: and i never got reasons for not have a monarchy (as what my emperors was nothing compare with what i see in this case)
So know maybe i have to say:
Let what it should be

Maybe Brits don't want to do anythig yet because of the Queen but when she dies i don't know,probably it remain a little with Charles but who knows. 





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Post by: Yooper on May 15, 2011, 10:04:21 pm
^^Seriously, KF.  It's a tough transition after so many years/centuries of ingrained belief to make a change, but a change is, in my mind, the best thing for the people.  It'll take a lot more for Parliament to get down and dirty, unfortunately.  But, the existing monarchy are fooling themselves if they don't see the winds of change ruffling the velvet curtains a bit.  At what point, tho, does the collective consciousness say, 'Enough'.  That's the unknown.  The people of the UK may have to take off their reserve and polite hats for a bit and look after themselves.  It's tough, but it may be the only way to preserve any dignity.

It's far too easy for us to make a judgment call on this, I realize that.  But, we have ancestors who bled heavily to rid ourselves of the concept, so we see things differently.  I hope this makes sense and is not meant to be insulting in any way.  My heart breaks for what I see in the future for such a fine country.


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 16, 2011, 02:29:41 am
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Seriously, KF.  It's a tough transition after so many years/centuries of ingrained belief to make a change, but a change is, in my mind, the best thing for the people.  It'll take a lot more for Parliament to get down and dirty, unfortunately.


Well, we did it with the Tea Party, after well over a century or two of just going along with two political parties making choices for candidates. We did it just fine and I am more than sure the Brits will too.

For all that we think the British are wimps, but for all of it, when Henry VIII could hang people for speaking against Anne Boleyn, it never stopped the Brits from showing their rage for her and her grasping family. Another example is when they were rioting viciously about fees and other things, this time actually crossing over into the upper class areas. Give them time and then they will change things for the better.


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Post by: Yooper on May 16, 2011, 02:34:08 am
Yes, that is true, and I hope for the best however it goes.  We were fortunate to have a whole ocean between us and the British and could start from scratch in the beginning, so it's in our DNA now to make change and do it now.  This is a highly charged and complicated process, politically.  Or not.  I looked up the Parliamentary laws on this and it is a bit of a mess to make this happen and I've yet to see any real, solid outrage from the UK yet.  We'll see.  Hope springs eternal and all of that.


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 16, 2011, 02:42:37 am
For some reason, the Brits are practically saints when it comes to patience and tolerance. They are the types that just want to get on with their lives and make thier own way (something we inherited no less), but if it does affect their livlihood (like Anne Boleyn did so many years ago in regards to diplomacy), then they get angry. When Kate's antics lose the nation jobs (and they will) or make the nation look bad (which they will), then the Brits will get angry. Even Diana got it in the neck from the public for her pouting in South Korea (near the end of her marriage) for jeapordizing possible deals.


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Post by: Varya on May 16, 2011, 02:47:36 am
Well their "down to earth" bull lasted about as long as that photo op with Kate "shopping" all by her lonesome. Now it's back to their vacationing spending lifestyle, which is anything but "down to earth".  :nomorekate:


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 16, 2011, 02:49:07 am
Now now, lets not be silly; Kate has been wanting to escape her down to earth peers for some time now and has not wanted to be around her common folk townspeople at all. She's been working like a fiend to escape her commoner roots (unless it's used for PR/class warfare) since day one of her climbing.


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Post by: Yooper on May 16, 2011, 04:49:58 am
I just hope the UK media have the guts to put in writing what this blasted honeymoon is costing because that's the reality of what's ahead.  And then the 'tour', and the US, and it will go on and on and on.  What straw will it be, I guess, is the answer. 


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Post by: True Brit on May 16, 2011, 09:38:08 am
Friends - for some reason the MSM (mainstream media) in the UK is supporting the Monarchy no matter what. The Republican movement is growing fairly slowly and I have noticed they have been quiet since the wedding. They must know that the wedding was  PR coup for the Monarchy and whilst the intellectual, moral and financial case is strong they know they cannot beat the emotional tie of a Royal Wedding with all the ceremonial that goes with it. For some reason many (possibly the majority) of the UKs' collective wits go out of the window when they see a wedding dress.

The RF is also adept at using national symbolism to support their presence such as the fly past of the Spitfire and Lancaster at the recent nuptials. These aircraft have a very special place in the hearts of the British people throughout World War Two when we were, as a nation, at our best. Tie this, the flags and a bunting and a young attractive couple and it reinforces the myth and covers for the fact that despite all claims they are value for money they are feathering the Windsor nest at the expense of the people.

Let's just watch what the Republican movement comes up with next. They will be waiting ready with a Freedom of Information request over the costs of this entire affair but they have a difficult task really as how do you apply logic and intellect to such stupid assertions as "she looks lovely she'll make a fabulous Queen" or "they're just like one of us" (of course they are not).

For my own part, if the Monarchy proceeds as HM The Queen has done in a solid, committed and unspectacular fashion then long may she reign. However if we are seeing the rise of Hollywood style, high spending, lazy Chav Royalty then perhaps it's time to move over.

I don't go with the argument it will cost three times as much for a President - that isn't the point. As long as it's scrutinised closely the expenditure is a necessary part. However I did sit back and think of all the great people this nation has produced who could have been President -from writers like Charles Dickens to Florence Nightingale and engineers like Brunel and George Stephenson; and scientists such as Rutherford (a Kiwi I think) and Jeffreys who discovered DNA fingerprinting; Tim Berners-Lee and the worldwide web then there's doctors, musicians and artists - the list is endless.

Of course no-one knows if they would have even been interested and then there are many current people of great achivement who we may never have heard of who would be honoured to serve. Princess Anne could be President and she's so popular I am sure she would be appointed unopposed and wouldn't that be so truly democratic for her being denied the top spot after Charles imply because of her sex? The Royals would still be able to engage in charity work like the Duke of Westminster who is an active patron and more importantly for them they may get the chance to be actually happy and not have this burden being passed down from generation to generation.

Nope I am quite chilled about the whole concept it wouldn't be the end of the world and it is inevitable in the development of the nation which has been so in thrall to status, class and birthright (check Carole Middleton) for too longAs long as it is restricted to Britain's oustanding citizens and not career bloody politicians it could be the way ahead.


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 16, 2011, 10:32:07 am
At the immediate moment, the only reason the monarchy is still going, is because of PR; there was no emotional, fundamental connection made and it wasn't like there were as many people there lustily cheering William and Kate with all their hearts and that there was a sincere attachment to the RF. Yes, there were cheers and fun stuff, but it was more of a celebration where if it had been someone else in Kate's place, the reaction would have been the same. You didn't see anything iconic about Kate and you didn't see anything you wouldn't see with someone else.

This is the key issue; Kate is disposable and if you had popped someone in her place with some substance, there would have been more out there and a lot more of a fundamentally positive reaction. With Diana, there really could have been no one else in that position and she seemed to carry the nation along with her as she went through life, that is what made it so fascinating to read and study her. The MSM is happy because William married the woman they picked and the person they thought would sell magazines for them. When Kate doesn't, Kate will be replaced as she already is at the DM. There are no papz stalking them at all.

If it were a princess or aristocrat, the MSM would be so Republican it would make our heads spin at their hypocrisy.

The Republican movement for the moment might be chastened, but it's only if the Republicans remain petty instead of substantial and offer in replacement a substantial plan of action. Any massive change like the end of a monarchial system requires a tremendous amount of self sacrifice and restraint to avoid a tyrant gaining power and instigating a bloodbath. It's not the same as a colony breaking away and I as an American can attest that it takes a lot of hits and misses and that's only if you're breaking away.

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Nope I am quite chilled about the whole concept it wouldn't be the end of the world and it is inevitable in the development of the nation which has been so in thrall to status, class and birthright (check Carole Middleton) for too longAs long as it is restricted to Britain's oustanding citizens and not career bloody politicians it could be the way ahead.

A lot of people are into class status in the US, we just don't have it officially endorsed by the government and holds actual official diplomatic standing.

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I don't go with the argument it will cost three times as much for a President - that isn't the point.

Presidents only cost so much because they literally run the country and to do it right, they need to be surrounded and served by the best of the best. If you eliminated the monarchy (I speak only in theory) and had only a First Lady to pay for in regards to clothes allowance, things would be a lot more streamlined. The other issue is that, what exactly does the RF do that cannot be done by a First Family? If you had the Bush Twins out working and cutting ribbons, they would likely be more prone to staying out of trouble (if they don't still need school) and stuff, it would actually be a lot better since it's a bargain to have a temporary family in the White House than have one there that is mainly sitting idle and doing nothing. Constitutional monarchies work if they aren't unique in one respect or another. I don't see how Kate nad William blowing millions in the tropics is benefiting anyone in the UK.

The monarchy as it stands is no longer workable because they cost way too much and bring too little in return. The BRF specifically isn't out there, but instead living like a bunch of Victorian era aristocrats, getting a fluffy education and then cutting ribbons. They aren't as involved as they should be and they aren't innovating or listening to those who can help them. They are running in circles and PR is something you can't stop working at, especially if you have nothing else.

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from writers like Charles Dickens to Florence Nightingale and engineers like Brunel and George Stephenson; and scientists such as Rutherford (a Kiwi I think) and Jeffreys who discovered DNA fingerprinting; Tim Berners-Lee and the worldwide web then there's doctors, musicians and artists - the list is endless.

These are the people who should be getting titles and knighthoods and mingling with members of the royal families, not the celebs and idle jet setters.


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Post by: Earl Grey on May 16, 2011, 05:52:16 pm
Not jealous either.

I love culture and history. My holidays are full of exploring new places and visiting all the historic sites such as Museums, art galleries, historic houses and off the beaten tracks.

As pretty as the picture is I know that within 2 days I would have died of boredom.

ITA. Had I had their budget, I would vist places of cultural and historical interest. Way don't they visit places like the great wall in China, the capitals of mainland Europe, the silk road cities, the pyramides (ok, too risky right now), Venice, Munich,  Angkor Watt I could go on and on...

But no...they want to park their lazy asses on a tropical beach..
Besides....their honeymoon isn't unique. They have been on a tropical beach holidays many times...


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Post by: Earth Angel on May 16, 2011, 06:07:54 pm
True Brit, excellent post.  :thumbsup: I see the sentimentality you speak of, as symbolism speaks directly to the unconscious and the emotions evoked are not always easily transitioned into logical thought.

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Had I had their budget, I would vist places of cultural and historical interest. Way don't they visit places like the great wall in China, the capitals of mainland Europe, the silk road cities, the pyramides (ok, too risky right now), Venice, Munich, Angkor Watt I could go on and on...

I've asked myself the same question Earl Greye about them. These two don't seem to be much into cultural enrichment! Even their upcoming engagments in Canada speak more to history than to progression. To visit and pay tribute to Kate's grandfather is out of place, imo. It shouldn't be about Kate or William, but about the people they are visiting and the cultural mileau that is taking shape now. Alas, these two seem to prefer primitive surrounds, lazing and playing with the animals. ...


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 16, 2011, 06:33:51 pm
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ITA. Had I had their budget, I would vist places of cultural and historical interest. Way don't they visit places like the great wall in China, the capitals of mainland Europe, the silk road cities, the pyramides (ok, too risky right now), Venice, Munich,  Angkor Watt I could go on and on...

You tell me. Even Diana did a ton of traveling on her honeymoon and did business (duties). Times like this I ebgin to really sympathize since Diana was really getting the short end of the stick.


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Post by: Yooper on May 16, 2011, 06:39:43 pm
Very insightful and ITA with them.  Really super, TB, KF, et al.  If I had their budget, I'd be busy seeing what I could do to further relations with the Commonwealth and THEIR needs than my own and begin, right now, establishing and being visibly active in picking my philanthropies.  Not their vague one that apparently has no accounting attached to it, btw.  They're way off the charts with what their roles are and nobody's doing a dam# thing to stop them or get them on track.

Eventually, probably not in my lifetime, these things will strike back, but it's too frustrating and irritating to stomach for now, for me.


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 16, 2011, 07:07:15 pm
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Eventually, probably not in my lifetime, these things will strike back

Oh they will, just you wait.

They have gotten away with everything, as has Kate, but when they settle in, things will be different. The palace really couldn't do anything ot Kate since she was still a private citizen, but just THINK of how miserable they can make Kate behind closed doors. Just think of how nasty they can be to her, freely now, since the public will not sympathize if she complains. Think of how the courtiers can now undermine her ability to repay the favors the press gave her and think of how snippy they can be to her face. The pain for Kate will just begin and I think she knows this; why else do you think she's been falling to pieces?


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Post by: Yooper on May 16, 2011, 07:49:45 pm
Boy, you have no idea how much I want to believe in that, KF, but I don't consider flouncing around in her cottage, or lounging on a tropical island constitutes falling to pieces.  For whatever reason, that woman gets away with things that even Rod Serling couldn't dream up on crack.  She has that certain Teflon Factor that I cannot explain, but she's got it.  Look at how much she's managed to get without doing anything.  Nothing.  And is praised to the heavens instead of questioned, at least publicly.  Lots of grumbling.  Lots of outrage.  Lots of snickering, but the overpowering belief is still being sold as St. Catherine The Ruler of the World in all things fashion, humility, restraint, perfection, beauty,...it's unbelievable.

Oddly, the only person who can bring her down is her sister, right now, so I'm actually rooting for her, which is totally their evil plan and yet I find myself falling for it! 

Gotta run and get a new computer.  That should be a riot. Not.


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 16, 2011, 08:26:36 pm
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but I don't consider flouncing around in her cottage, or lounging on a tropical island constitutes falling to pieces.  For whatever reason, that woman gets away with things that even Rod Serling couldn't dream up on crack.


She isn't settled into the Palace routine yet. She's still on her honeymoon and honeymoon phase with the press and she hasn't lived in the Palace. When the palace has to put up with her, they will end up making her life a misery, just wait. She hasn't had an office established and she hasn't had to live wtih teh RF at the Palace while observing etiquette. She's still newly married and once her touring is over and William is in the Falklands, she will end up being nailed daily behind closed doors at the Palace. This year she will be having dinner during the holidays at Sandringham, bored out of her mind because she will be in the country and not the city all the time. She will end up forced to get up in time for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and then dress appropriately for each occasion; whne William's Prince Genes kick in, which they will when they are on tour, she will end up getting it in the neck from him.

It's not just the beauty of the women in the ballroom which will be pointless, but what will stick in William's neck is that he has a woman with the worst public reputation in the ballroom. He will have the most socially inept wife in the ballroom, he will have the most clueless woman in the ballroom. When she costs the nation jobs through her behavior, she will get it in the neck from the public and then where will she be? You are taking too shortsighted of a view; when her honeymoon is over, when the real work begins, she will balk at it and then the public will start complaining. The DM won't be able to protect her from the anger of a public that is being cheated of it's investment and even if they aren't on the Civil List, she will still have to be seen proving her worth as a representative of the nation. At the moment she is golden, but even the love of the tabloids can't protect her.


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Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 16, 2011, 10:03:51 pm
Yooper  -   I am sincerely sorry, hon, I did not realize your Mom was a 24/7 caring issue. That must be exhausting however I meant you are fortunate to still have your mother. And she is to have a daughter like YOU.

BTW, Yooper, I think you are incredibly funny but THIS one took the cake ! >  "she gets away with things even Rod Serling couldn't dream up on crack". Llmmmmaaaaaaooooooooooooooooooo.  Love you.   kisss

KF  -     :worship:   You explain that so beautifully. (how K will pay and suffer). The honeymoon is nearly OVER. In many ways. Yes, K will be, as you say, the most socially inept in the balroom, and I might add she will most likely be the dullest conversationalist and the most backwards, immature, grinning *fool* with everyone else laughing behind her back.   :spooky:

Oh and Yooper   -   I, too, love the Pippa factor. So, we can safely say we are TEAM PIPPA ?? Right ? GO PIPPA GO GIRL !! Strut it.  :thumbsup:


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 16, 2011, 10:18:45 pm
One thing we have noticed, is that since the engagement, Kate has not been in one of the palaces at all, she has pretty much been at arm's length and it's been that way. She stayed overnight at BP, but then she was shipped off to married life. No nice breakfast with the RF, no week of getting to know everyone, and nothing at all. Just one night and then whisked away, and from there, to her honeymoon. After that, back on base and then touring internationally and then home to get down to business. No more jet setting, no more constant shopping, so go figure, she will face the reality of the role she aspired to. On Wednesday she will be greeted with the reality of her choices and no more indulgence. She will either live in her cottage or she will live in London, at the Palace, being assigned duties and being eased into her new lifestyle.


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Post by: Earth Angel on May 16, 2011, 10:52:54 pm
^^^ I don't see it happening as you say. Most evidently since William, and the British royals in general, don't do ballrooms anymore. That's not been their lifestyle since the 1950's. What your contemplating is the old school way, which the British royals have thrown out the window. They simply don't live that way anymore. They put on an occasional show as a mere formality, socialize informally, and patronize charities. Their lifestyle isn't even nearly as formal as other existing houses, which they do not regularly associate with. Kate is in. They are not going to drive her out. I accept that now and expect we will watch their legacy become denigrated through ineptedness. ...

I agree to wholeheartedly disagree with your presumptions.  :flower:


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Post by: Kezza on May 16, 2011, 11:14:16 pm
I agree with some of what KF is saying as I too think she is in a honeymoon period with the press and some aspects of the public too, but it doesnt last though. It also wouldnt be wise for her to squander it though, just like Fergie did when she married Andrew. I also agree with KF when she says she might get bored with the quiet life, as I think she might come to realize that she was better of as William's Girlfriend than his wife. Because before she could leave the cottage in Wales when she chose to, now like the rest of the Royals she is now limited to where she can live and go.

As for the rest of the RF they will tolerate Kate as long as William is happy with her and the marriage is working out well. If it doesnt and we have seen this with Diana despite producing two sons, then she is disposable.


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Post by: Earth Angel on May 16, 2011, 11:33:06 pm
^^^Kate can't get bored if she isn't forced to live a quiet life. ... At this point ineptitude abounds within BP and SJP. And I don't see that changing. Thus, Kate will not be forced to live a certain way and/or exercise restraint. She and William have run amuck for far too long without them realizing the shame it has brought to their house. Unless all of the UK has Alzheimers and/or Dementia, their images are built upon their past actions, possibly forgotten consciously, but lodged in the unconscious nonetheless. I agree with KF in that this coupling seems to defy natural law, as the human mind has hard wiring that is usually unaccepting of such antics from the upper eschelons of society. Just as social hierarchies are ingrained in the psyche, so too are implied boundaries and standards, which cannot be uprooted. Long term appreciation is a big sacrifice to make for short term success. It's not the media that will influence the people, it's the people that will influence the media. The media didn't make this partnership, as has been asserted by KF and others. The reality is far more complex than that. The royals are responsible for their own actions. Thus, the media cannot make or break the House of Windsor. ...

Also, all of the European houses that have married in commoners are now feeling their position is being threatened, excepting probably Victoria of Sween, as that coupling is relatively new. However, Sweden has already begun to question their relevence. And Belgium is getting hammered hard. The only house prevailing is The Netherlands. An go figure, Maxima is not actually a "commoner". She is decended from a King of Portugal, as well as various noble houses. She has charisma, which is lacking elsewhere in Europe!


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Post by: Kahleigh on May 16, 2011, 11:49:16 pm
There are some pics that is supposedly them, make of it what you will, if it is them, they have been sunbaking alot!  8)
Also notice in the video, it mentions that only William has been friendly to the locals, WK duchess of arrogance strikes again.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/royalwedding/8249321/shots-spark-speculation-on-honeymoon-location


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Post by: Princess Alucard on May 16, 2011, 11:57:55 pm
 lol


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Post by: mousiekins on May 17, 2011, 12:17:08 am
Not to sound too politically incorrect but  :eightball: way too brown.


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Post by: royal_watcher05 on May 17, 2011, 12:29:21 am
i don't think it is them, and those poor people may have had thier trip ruined. Also, the article link says the honeymoon cost 2 million.  :noway:  :spooky:


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Post by: mousiekins on May 17, 2011, 12:51:14 am
yep, easily.


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Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 17, 2011, 02:33:04 am
Did anyone post this yet ? (My puter is really slow now and I am about to throw it, so I could not check anywhere else on here).


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/article/0c5Abkl57zdei?q=Kate+Middleton

The article is here (could not click on it, puter is so slow now) and on the news too, as well as the Mirror I think.

The island K & W are on is hit with painful virus ..the Chikungunya Virus..no cure. Mosquito transferred. I do not know whether to cry or laugh ??   :laugh:

For every Silver Lining there is that cloud.... :spooky:


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Post by: Yooper on May 17, 2011, 02:36:02 am
Everywhere they go something happens!  Man have they got The Bad Voodoo Stink on 'em.


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Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 17, 2011, 02:46:37 am
Yes  ^  Yooper, they may get this very painful virus transmitted via mosquitoes.

Hey if they don't want these freaky voodoo itchy island things, then they should have honeymooned in Minnesota. LOL.

BTW, can that already-weathered-and-leathery Duchess of Freddy Krueger STAY OUT OF THE SUN ?! On return, she will now look 50.   :thumbsdown:  Add another 2 weeks of hard liquor to the mix too.

Poor WILS.    :spooky:


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 17, 2011, 02:56:03 am
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Hey if they don't want these freaky voodoo itchy island things, then they should have honeymooned in Minnesota. LOL.

The US is perfect for a 'multi-national' honeymoon.

Want snow and hiking? We have a dozen states that have more than enough of that!

Tropics? the South like Florida and California (West, I know)

French Cuisine? Deep South!

This is why the US has citizenry who don't all have passports, we have all we need here!


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Post by: Earth Angel on May 17, 2011, 03:08:29 am
Oh Dear Lord, I wouldn't wish this virus on anyone. This is just awful. ...  :-


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Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 17, 2011, 03:20:52 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chikungunya   


Can cause debilitating joint diseases, for months or years to come.


Can be dangerous if pregnant too.


People need to THOROUGHLY RESEARCH their exotic destinations. This VIRUS is known to be in the Indian Ocean, Africa too. So, people GO at their own risk. I knew PW was NOT too bright IMO. And K ? Well. It would be safer if she had considered a less dangerous place, if wanting to become pregnant.

EA   -  The virus really is NOT fatal, so I would not worry really. Just a nuisance BUT can cause joint diseases down the road. Maybe.


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 17, 2011, 04:06:30 am
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I knew PW was NOT too bright IMO. And K ? Well. It would be safer if she had considered a less dangerous place, if wanting to become pregnant.

That's because William has other poeple to do the thinking for him, even if he doesn't listen. This is another reason I'm iffy about the tropics; besides, the stifling heat would drive me out of my mind.


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Post by: Kezza on May 17, 2011, 05:33:08 am
^^^Kate can't get bored if she isn't forced to live a quiet life. ... At this point ineptitude abounds within BP and SJP. And I don't see that changing. Thus, Kate will not be forced to live a certain way and/or exercise restraint. She and William have run amuck for far too long without them realizing the shame it has brought to their house. Unless all of the UK has Alzheimers and/or Dementia, their images are built upon their past actions, possibly forgotten consciously, but lodged in the unconscious nonetheless. I agree with KF in that this coupling seems to defy natural law, as the human mind has hard wiring that is usually unaccepting of such antics from the upper eschelons of society. Just as social hierarchies are ingrained in the psyche, so too are implied boundaries and standards, which cannot be uprooted. Long term appreciation is a big sacrifice to make for short term success. It's not the media that will influence the people, it's the people that will influence the media. The media didn't make this partnership, as has been asserted by KF and others. The reality is far more complex than that. The royals are responsible for their own actions. Thus, the media cannot make or break the House of Windsor. ...

Also, all of the European houses that have married in commoners are now feeling their position is being threatened, excepting probably Victoria of Sween, as that coupling is relatively new. However, Sweden has already begun to question their relevence. And Belgium is getting hammered hard. The only house prevailing is The Netherlands. An go figure, Maxima is not actually a "commoner". She is decended from a King of Portugal, as well as various noble houses. She has charisma, which is lacking elsewhere in Europe!

I wasnt talking about her behaviour I was talking about where she can live or do as a person, now she is married to PW. Put it this way she will not be able to go back living in that flat she had in London, now she is married to PW. She will still be able to visit her parents still, but she is basically stuck in Wales living the house wife lie that his People are trying to spin, or living in the Royal estates with her husband from time to time.


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Post by: June on May 17, 2011, 05:57:31 am
The proverbial ace for Britain is when Australia becomes a republic in the not too distant future. As a result of our being directly descendant from English convicts, it will send shock waves through the UK. The people will then start asking serious questions and take a closer look at the value of the BRF. I believe that the UK will then re-think the glorified, archaic position of the monarchy. Oh, they won't admit to that now, but just you wait and see.  ;)


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 17, 2011, 06:13:11 am
IF the Aussies do this, I only ask that you think this through thoroughly.

Anyway, pity he isn't spending that two million in the UK around hotels and inns and on staff. I am sure they could use the money well.


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Post by: Earth Angel on May 17, 2011, 06:32:18 am
Lanvin: I knew it wasn't deadly, but it's one that stays in your body, wreaking havoc for years to come. Scientists are still in the learning stages, regarding alpha virus' and all of the potential long term effects aren't known. Symptomology changes over time and may never disappear, even if the virus remits. I wouldn't want that pesky thing in my system! ...

Kezza: I get what your saying. I was just pointing out, in further detail, why I don't agree with KF. I read her differently than you, but I may have misunderstood her.  :dontknow:



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Post by: Kezza on May 17, 2011, 06:44:15 am
Its okay Earth Angel. :flower: I get some of your points too.

It will be intresting to see at what point the honeymoon period ends for Kate. I think it will be after the kids are born, but if she isnt with child within two years from now the media might start to wonder.


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Post by: Earth Angel on May 17, 2011, 06:50:48 am
^^^  :BFF: Thanks Kezza.

And one of the reasons this alpha virus is so nasty is because there has been a case of transmission from mother to infant. Yet it's not clear to me what stage of the virus the mother was at when giving birth. If Kate contracts this virus & gets pregnant now, that baby could be effected. Yet I'm not going to worry because there's no telling whether or not she'll get sick and/or whether or not she'll get pregnant. Too many what ifs to be very concerned! ...


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Post by: June on May 17, 2011, 07:10:09 am
@ KF: what is there to think about?  :think:

At the moment, we have a foreign Head of State, who rarely visits, and who, without question, signs off on our laws and allows the government run the country. That may sound fine in principle, but it means that citizens of the Commonwealth of Australia are denied the right to question our laws, ergo, no bill of rights. You are a US citizen, which means you do have a bill or rights and can question your laws if you deem them harsh, unjust or against basic human rights. We cannot. The buck stops with the parliament-made laws and those of the common law (judge-made laws). But statutes override the common law.

Honestly, Australians are constantly being denied basic human rights and the right to question laws. By reason, our government of the day runs roughshod over its citizens.  bignono With so many political issues, it's time for a change. Plus, the Australian economy is in transition.

And ... now we have a situation where, once HM passes on, Charles will be our King, and he will no doubt send William (and Waity) to our shores UNINVITED.  bignono

Our most eminent monarchist argued that one of the reasons for keeping the monarchy is that the Queen (as Head of State) does not interfere and only comes when invited. As for the latter, that will clearly cease, and as to the former: is it a good idea to have a Head of State who really does not give a toss about what laws are passed, and simply gets her representative (the Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Australia) to rubber stamp them?  :-X

Ok, off-topic rant over ...


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 17, 2011, 07:50:12 am
I've jsut read about too many revolutions to not be wary of a nation entering into independence. That's my only qualm is that something goes horribly wrong and that you end up in a fix.

Realisticallly though, you stand a solid chance of success.


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Post by: royal_watcher05 on May 17, 2011, 01:43:38 pm
However, it isn't really a revolution, very little about the Australian govt is actually going to change and its impact on the people will not be significant.  I high doubt the Brits will take up arms to ensure the BRF remains the head of  Australia. :oooh: Thought its kind of you to be worried.  :hug:


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 17, 2011, 05:14:41 pm
Awww. I just don't want to see Australia tossed into chaos and stuff. But thankfully, you have everything pretty much in place and set to go.


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Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 17, 2011, 10:22:54 pm
EA  -  Agree. And it sounds worse than the lyme disease which can cause similar things, I believe.

I sincerely hope if K is in any early stages of pregnancy, she did not contract this virus. (chikungunya virus)  :thumbsdown:


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Post by: benign on May 17, 2011, 11:10:14 pm
I find it hard to believe that PW is willing to spend 45,000 pounds or more for a honeymoon knowing how tight fisted he is with money. But if the Midds are paying for it, its cool then  :P


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 18, 2011, 01:37:28 am
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I find it hard to believe that PW is willing to spend 45,000 pounds or more for a honeymoon knowing how tight fisted he is with money.

Who knows how she gets all she gets out of him. I have no idea how and she still gets some more. It's like watching people on welfare enjoy new cars and we're stuck with cabbage.


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Post by: True Brit on May 18, 2011, 09:39:16 am
I suspect they've done a deal over the island in exchange for publicity. However, even though they may be on a freebie, the entourage of detectives and possibly special forces unit will be paid for via the taxpayer. I would like to see the balance sheet as to how the public/private aspects are broken down. The private jet may well be paid for by the Govt/taxpayer if they decide it's needed for security.

I'm sure someone will be sending in a FOI request pretty soon.


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Post by: Yooper on May 18, 2011, 03:21:55 pm
TB - Yeah, the accounting on this jaunt and many others like it must be convoluted, to say the least.  It's naive of the Islands as a vacation destination to reap many rewards by this visit when they insist on such privacy and any publication verified or unverified price points it out for those who have never heard of it.  Those who can afford it, already know about it, so that does nothing for the Seychelles.  If they had really wanted publicity to improve knowledge of vacation spots, it would have been wiser to choose a quiet retreat in a relatively unheard-of town in the UK.  The Seychelles disassociates them completely from helping, which is what their prime motive should be, their own people.

As for FOI, will they provide a breakdown of the wedding costs?  It's a difficult number to grab if they want to try and balance it out vs revenue.


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Post by: karla64 on May 18, 2011, 03:55:04 pm
Prince William and his wife's 3.2 million yacht honeymoon
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/05/18/prince-william-kates-32-million-honeymoon-yacht/


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Post by: Queenbee on May 18, 2011, 06:21:06 pm
3.2 million some cheap honeymoon


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Post by: Earth Angel on May 18, 2011, 09:08:30 pm
Prince William and his wife's 3.2 million yacht honeymoon
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/05/18/prince-william-kates-32-million-honeymoon-yacht/

Well, a 3.2 million dollar yacht is low end, as far as luxury goes. More expensive than I could personally afford, but still not high end. ... And the silly article about the things Kate would have to give up, including eating crustaceans, appears to be a myth. They had them at their reception and if seafood poisoning was such a concern, sushi would be out of the question. ...

This "pirate" tour they supposedly went on, in the Seychelles, made me laugh.  lol  A few years ago I took my children on a similar day trip, boat tour, in the Eastern Caribbean, with explorations and snokeling. It was fun but didn't cost nearly as much as theirs. Even with scuba diving, it wouldn't have been nearly as expensive. Seems like they could have done their exploring for much less money!  :think:


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Post by: Yooper on May 18, 2011, 09:11:11 pm
When does this horrific waste of money honeymoon end?  By my calendar, their 10 days are up now.


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Post by: True Brit on May 18, 2011, 09:30:19 pm
I wouldn't also be surprised if a Royal Navy destroyer or similar is not on stand by close to where they are. Somali pirates do operate in these waters so it's odds on a ship will have been deployed to keep an eye on things. Now how will they work this in the ship's running costs?

Prince Phillip was commenting over the loss of the Royal Yacht Britannia and he has a point it would probably be much more cost effective (not cheaper as none of it's cheap) to have sent them off on the yacht for ten days. Mind you why they couldn't have taken a cruise off the Western Isles or the Scillies and boost Britain I'll never know. Instead they prefer to promote the Seychelles.

Aside I once attended a reception on the Royal Yacht Britannia where it is now berthed at Leith in Edinburgh. It is utterly stunning and available for hire to companies, individuals - anyone who will pay.


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Post by: Yooper on May 18, 2011, 09:58:16 pm
http://gawker.com/5803197/all-about-will--kates-720000-honeymoon (http://gawker.com/5803197/all-about-will--kates-720000-honeymoon)


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Reminder to the brits: You paid for every single dime of this junket. Why you people continually put up with the outrageous public subsidization of one family so they can live a life of complete luxury is beyond me. You twats. You silly, silly twats.   



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Post by: June on May 19, 2011, 05:35:40 am
However, it isn't really a revolution, very little about the Australian govt is actually going to change and its impact on the people will not be significant.  I high doubt the Brits will take up arms to ensure the BRF remains the head of  Australia. :oooh: Thought its kind of you to be worried.  :hug:

Firstly, do you have any reasoning, submission or argument to back up your dissenting theory? Secondly, I wasn't 'worried', so no need to condescend.

Changing our constitution, held in place for centuries, IS going to 'impact' the Australian people immensely. No offence, but you really can't compete with the likes of The Hon Michael Kirby, AC CMG, as an expert in this matter. Neither can I, but at least I have some knowledge of the situation to submit, whilst you clearly do not.

If the Australian Constitution were not going to change significantly, then the debate wouldn't be so heated and controversial.

And, please, cease with the exaggeration: I never said that 'the Brits will take up arms to ensure the BRF remains the head of Australia.'  :rolleyes: All I stated was that it will make them sit up and take notice as to their own relationship with the monarchy. Are you British, btw? I'm asking because your post has no clarity of thought, no argument, nothing at all really, ergo I'm wondering what the point of it was, other than to dissent for the sake of it.  :whistle:



Title: honeymoon
Post by: Ceridwen on May 19, 2011, 06:14:11 am
http://www.cruise-addicts.com/forums/f43/prince-william-kate-middleton-charter-%243-2-million-yacht-sightseeing-169287/#post1502947

Another expense in the honeymoon. 


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The boat costs around $42,000 a week to hire and comes equipped with jet skis and scuba diving gear.


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The royal honeymoon is no cheap affair. The villa that the newlyweds are reportedly staying in costs a whopping $6,500 per night.




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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 19, 2011, 09:02:16 am
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All I stated was that it will make them sit up and take notice as to their own relationship with the monarchy.

Yes, it will. If the monarchy results in the loss of territory to the British nation, it will end up with the Brits losing face internationally and look at the monarchy as a liability to their Commonwealth and not an asset.

Pity Kate nad William never bothered with the Commonwealth, combining a honeymoon and an official tour.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: karla64 on May 20, 2011, 01:53:11 am
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/191777/Prince-William-is-making-waves-on-honeymoon/


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Post by: Kuei Fei on May 20, 2011, 03:49:08 am
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He tried to persuade Kate, 29, to have a go but she has stuck to sunbathing and reading. Sources said she was put off by the day of training on land she would need to do before even being allowed out to sea.


Welcome to the real Kate William; someone who will never bother even trying anymore.

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Prince Phillip was commenting over the loss of the Royal Yacht Britannia and he has a point it would probably be much more cost effective (not cheaper as none of it's cheap) to have sent them off on the yacht for ten days.


The royal Yacht would have required the same level of cost, if not more in addition for sailors to operate it and security to protect it. The yacht cost quite a bit and I don't see how it would have been less expensive and a lot less with security costs. Then the cost of taking a car and helicopter with them and then fuel, well, it's no wonder that the yacht was decommissioned. HM should pay for it, the reason it was taken out is because the taxpayers were paying for it. Until the RF pays for one, I do not think that the RF will have their own official yacht.

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Mind you why they couldn't have taken a cruise off the Western Isles or the Scillies and boost Britain I'll never know. Instead they prefer to promote the Seychelles.

Well, because they won't do as they are told and they don't want to do any work or duties. William will give Kate all she wants and she will demand one jet set location after another and she won't let the Court run her life as long as she has William to run things for her and protect her interests. They prefer to do what they want, while someone else pays for the backlash. While someone else ends up taking flak from the press and if they don't get what they want, WK will just screech at how the courtiers are oppressing them all the time.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: karla64 on May 20, 2011, 01:53:26 pm
Kate and William's Royal honeymoon: insider details revealed

http://entertainment.stv.tv/showbiz/250967-kate-and-williams-royal-honeymoon-insider-details-revealed/


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 20, 2011, 05:01:07 pm
Shouldn't this 10-day honeymoon be over by now?


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: June on May 20, 2011, 05:15:18 pm
My thoughts exactly, Yooper.  :James:

My God, this woman is so LAZY!  :o She must be ill, I'm convinced of it, no one could be that lazy, surely?  :-X


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 20, 2011, 05:20:48 pm
 lol lol lol, June.  Really, I have never seen a lazier human being in her position, in my entire life.  She's becoming a running gag with all her special needs for relaxation, 'recovery from wedding stress', and more.  Still laughing, for whatever reason, at the absurdity of Kate Middleton.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: June on May 20, 2011, 05:40:55 pm
 :tehe:  :laugh:  :hiss:  lol

I know, she's too hilarious for words! I cannot get over the image in my head of her having any kind of serious discussion with say, the US President. Hang on, I doubt the likes of him would bother - too much hard work!  lols  lol  :tehe:

She's going to be an international joke with her vacuous mind and all ...


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 20, 2011, 06:04:51 pm
IF and it's a big IF, the Prez meets with Wasty next week, I am going to undoubtedly have a good laugh over her absolute loss at such a high level of importance in the political arena.  She's totally out of her element against an educated woman like Michele O.  The First Family will be gracious, tho, and tolerate it, but it's a waste of time for them to bother with her.  Their agenda is a very serious one - meeting with the PM over Afghanistan is paramount right now, now Wasty's wedding and vacation.  In truth, her habits will be privately snickered at by the hard-working staff of the Prez and his non-stop schedule.  Two different worlds.

Unfortunately, the traffic will be horrific with the entourage that comes with the Prez and security.  And, for the record, AGAIN, we're paying for it because he was invited (get that idea, Wasty?) and it's a legit state visit.

Seriously, though, about the honeymoon it does end, right?  It's 13 days now, enough already.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Nighthawk on May 20, 2011, 08:15:47 pm
William And Kate Island Paradise Invaded
http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/Around_the_World/2011-05-20/19434/William_And_Kate_Island_Paradise_Invaded

Couple 'gatecrashed Royal honeymoon'
http://news.myjoyonline.com/lighternews/201105/66074.asp

North Island, Seychelles: barefoot luxury in eden
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ultratravel/8525538/North-Island-Seychelles-barefoot-luxury-in-eden.html



Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 20, 2011, 08:45:55 pm
Get over yourselves; it was just an accident.  Anyway, the 'gatecrasher' guy is SMOKIN' hot!!!!  Far lovelier couple than the Do-Littles.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: mousiekins on May 20, 2011, 10:10:16 pm
IF and it's a big IF, the Prez meets with Wasty next week, I am going to undoubtedly have a good laugh over her absolute loss at such a high level of importance in the political arena.  She's totally out of her element against an educated woman like Michele O.  The First Family will be gracious, tho, and tolerate it, but it's a waste of time for them to bother with her.  Their agenda is a very serious one - meeting with the PM over Afghanistan is paramount right now, now Wasty's wedding and vacation.  In truth, her habits will be privately snickered at by the hard-working staff of the Prez and his non-stop schedule.  Two different worlds.

Unfortunately, the traffic will be horrific with the entourage that comes with the Prez and security.  And, for the record, AGAIN, we're paying for it because he was invited (get that idea, Wasty?) and it's a legit state visit.

Seriously, though, about the honeymoon it does end, right?  It's 13 days now, enough already.

Part of me wants her to fail spectacularly and for her to be an embarrassment but then now that she is Royal (  :ick: ) she will make the UK look so ridiculous too  :sob:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 20, 2011, 10:16:07 pm
Their time is limited - two days I believe, so not much time for her to really mess up and she may not even meet them, which would be my hope.  But, they'll have some dinner and photo op, I just hope HM locks down the seating arrangement and keeps Wasty below the salt.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Earth Angel on May 20, 2011, 10:17:23 pm
^^^ Their 10 days in paradise are up. Unless of course that too is a lie and they're staying longer.  :bored:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Ceridwen on May 21, 2011, 12:05:17 am
With Pr. William and Waity Katie, who knows.  Every day is a lazy day especially for Kate.  One vacation after another coupled with a pretend job.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on May 21, 2011, 12:49:48 am
http://www.midianews.com.br/?pg=noticias&cat=6&idnot=51225
Translation:
Prince William and Kate Middleton spend $ 1 million on honeymoon
Couple chose the Indian Ocean island to enjoy the days off and rented 11 houses in place to ensure security and privacy
According to "U.S. Magazine" Kate Middleton and Prince William now husband spent $ 720,000 (approximately U.S. $ 1.1 million) on his honeymoon.
The site chosen by the couple was the paradise island of Seychelles in the Indian Ocean, a place that has hosted many famous between Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, David and Victoria Beckham. Both, moreover, since like other seasons there. No photos of the trip for the couple, because there was an agreement between Buckingham Palace and journalists in order to ensure the privacy of William and Kate.
Also according to the publication, Kate and William have booked 11 places to accommodate your belongings and employees. And among the houses chosen for the dual doi a property of only two rooms and 5 million square feet.
Among the demands of the couple for the trip was a great steward twenty-four hours available, an outdoor bath, two bicycles for touring the countryside and a golf cart.
According to a source at the magazine, the couple made the trip so anxious when the wedding. "It's the first time in months that they can relax together, away from everything and everyone," said the person interviewed.



Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Earth Angel on May 21, 2011, 12:55:35 am
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"It's the first time in months that they can relax together, away from everything and everyone," said the person interviewed.


Awww, they've got such a hard life! :rolleyes: As True Brit wrote in a different thread: As far as these two actually possessing emotional intelligence, I too am not even going to go there!  :wellduh:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Ceridwen on May 21, 2011, 01:02:37 am
I'm with you Earth Angel.  Their lives are so hard that it defies logic or any thought process whatsoever.  Gawd, I can't stand these two. Sometimes I ask myself on why I'm still here in the forum, discussing one of the most pathetic people I've ever encountered because I have better things to do with my time.  Perhaps, it's just morbid curiosity on my part in the hopes that they will never succeed into anything and I will get an intense satisfaction knowing they're nothing but whiny failure adults.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 21, 2011, 02:44:20 am
Their time is limited - two days I believe, so not much time for her to really mess up and she may not even meet them, which would be my hope.  But, they'll have some dinner and photo op, I just hope HM locks down the seating arrangement and keeps Wasty below the salt.

Kate will have to be nearly at the head of the table and she will have to go, whether she likes it or not. Just think of it this way, in two days she will have to sit at a table at a state banquet and be fully briefed on both Obama and Michelle and she will also have to be well dressed and coiffed and gracious and she will have to know how to behave. It'll be fun seeing if she gets any of her fashion choices right and if she doesn't make a fool of herself. Chances are the press coverage will be glowing, but I have no idea on how she will be able to greet them without in the end, looking utterly hypocritical in her beahviro since she did after all, snub the both of them diplomatically.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 21, 2011, 03:15:14 am
http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/Around_the_World/2011-05-20/19434/William_And_Kate_Island_Paradise_Invaded


Yeah, he may be HOT, Yooper, but why does his GF have gigantic Halloween teeth in her mouth ? OMG those CANNOT be real teeth ??!


I am surprised with all of PC's MONEY, he and Di could never drag WILLIAM to an orthodontist ? Those teeth make him look goony.

I believe the honeymoon was for 2 weeks right ?


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 21, 2011, 03:19:56 am
Who knows.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 21, 2011, 04:55:21 am
^^You're right.  I'll revise. She does have some chompers.  HE's stil smokin' hot, from the photo.  Like vintage Pitt.

All I can find regarding this endless honeymoon is that it was for 10 days.  Maybe they meant weeks.  Or years.  Honestly, it's a treat not having them around, but the tab is out of control by now.  They're really pros at vacationing, tho, and she's gonna come back with another 5 years worth of sun damage/aging. 


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 21, 2011, 06:22:36 am
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and she's gonna come back with another 5 years worth of sun damage/aging. 


I don't know why women do this, spend all their time in the sun baking themselves to a crisp. Then, in order to look better, they have to tan some more, which just does damage all the more.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: June on May 21, 2011, 06:25:28 am
I'm with you Earth Angel.  Their lives are so hard that it defies logic or any thought process whatsoever.  Gawd, I can't stand these two. Sometimes I ask myself on why I'm still here in the forum, discussing one of the most pathetic people I've ever encountered because I have better things to do with my time.  Perhaps, it's just morbid curiosity on my part in the hopes that they will never succeed into anything and I will get an intense satisfaction knowing they're nothing but whiny failure adults.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I know the feeling, Ceri.  :hug: It's hard to stay away, though I try, frequently.  :help: You're right: we need to hang around until the inevitable fall.  :tehe:

KF: and then they wonder why they need so much plastic surgery from a young age.  :rolleyes:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 21, 2011, 06:29:52 am
June - couldn't agree more.  I question myself constantly why I'm even bothering with this but here I am undoubtedly waiting for the inevitable fail, and wondering what form it will take.  I have a real life and all of that, but this one thing has me attracted on some level that I simply cannot defend.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: June on May 21, 2011, 06:36:16 am
I know, and I could be reading valuable court judgments, educating me and adding value to my life.  :-X


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Ceridwen on May 21, 2011, 06:37:36 am
 :thankyou:  June.  I know I've called Kate pathetic and often times, I feel that I'm the one because I'm still here (or @ least came back anyway after months of absence).  :hide: :hide: :hide:   I should just hang in the towel (so to speak), after all, they're already married and therefore, what's her name is her to stay.   :wellduh:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 21, 2011, 06:41:50 am
I wonder if Kate has bothered to boink William at all during the honeymoon or if she has rediscovered chastity as a virtue. Wouldn't that be ironic? I wonder how bald William has become as well.

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and then they wonder why they need so much plastic surgery from a young age

:tehe: Which only makes it worse. I don't think these women understand just how badly they fry their skin when they do this.

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waiting for the inevitable fail, and wondering what form it will take.


It will start when Kate starts messing up in the ballroom, banquet table, and state occasion, turning these events into tabloid heaven while making William deeply ashamed of her. He's been ashamed for some time, but now when she makes a fool of herself and the British nation, just you wait. She's too chaotic to function in a etiquette ridden environment and she will want homage, even from those with higher social rank, or ask a head of state to bow to her. She will also likely fail on her first major tour (unless she has a skilled drill sargent type assistant) and I wager she will want to extend her time in LA, much to the detriment of her public's view of her. Fergie ended up ruining herself when she kept jetting to New York to shop.

Anyway, I wonder how the reaction will go down when the amount they spent on their honeymoon is tallied up.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 21, 2011, 06:45:03 am
That gives me hope, KF.  Thanks!

There doesn't seem to be any end to this f'ing honeymoon, so the tally, if they ever stop sunbathing and doing nothing, just continues to escalate.  It's GOT to be over the $1.5M mark by now, based on the sketchy info.  Plus, doesn't he have a JOB with the RAF?  How well is that going down with his buddies who are covering his lazy a$$?


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: June on May 21, 2011, 06:59:42 am
:thankyou:  June.  I know I've called Kate pathetic and often times, I feel that I'm the one because I'm still here (or @ least came back anyway after months of absence).  :hide: :hide: :hide:   I should just hang in the towel (so to speak), after all, they're already married and therefore, what's her name is her to stay.   :wellduh:

You're welcome Ceri - we're in this together.  :tehe:  kisss There has got to be some rational reason why an ensemble of intelligent, articulate individuals congregate here.  :-

KF: furthering your submission, I believe it will be when he has to start picking up the slack and taking the flak. Plus, he's probably already bored with her company and wishes she would just buzz off back to Berkshire.  :tehe: Oh wait, I wonder if Dumbo has twigged that he's stuck with her! She's HIS problem, liability, and not that of her parents any longer.  :P

It's truly outrageous, isn't it, Yooper? I can only believe that the Duke of Do-Little needed this time to get over the madness that has just ensued - by his own hand, mind. I can see why he married Waity though: they are both BONE LAZY and do the bare minimum. Well, as for her,  that means NOTHING AT ALL.  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Nighthawk on May 21, 2011, 11:02:56 am
Prince William and Kate end Seychelles honeymoon
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g4GlVj1DR0TGjCaX-f6XtRD5Xg9A?docId=bbd527bdbc2f4ca18379df6d970c1efd



Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 21, 2011, 03:19:29 pm
Thank GAWD that's over.  Now, I suppose, we'll have to hear all about the Canada thing and how hard she's going to work planning that and getting ready for the State visit from the US on Tuesday.  :ick:  It still doesn't add up to 10 days when I read back, but oh well.  Money, shmoney, to them. 


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 21, 2011, 07:43:41 pm
The sun damage cannot be reversed very well at all.

Look at Ivana Trump at Cannes in that bikini. She is 62 yet LOOKS like she really is in her 80s. I don't see WHY she'd go out like that. (Oh sorry, the bikini pic is from St. Barths) .

Kate will be, or IS the same. Because at 30 she LOOKS 45. Sun, booze, cigs, booze,booze,booze,sun.  :nervous:

The honeymoon is OVER ? Goody. Now get back to "work" both of you dolittles. I saw some photos on the front of the Globe (?) Enquirer (?) briefly 2 days ago, in the checkout line. It said "Heartbreak on the honeymoon...." or something and it basically claimed W saw the death photo of Di at Cannes, or was reading reviews about it or something, and K helped him to get over the heartbreak etc etc etc. But I wondered IF the accompanying photos were of their actual honeymoon ?

Does anyone know ?


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: June on May 21, 2011, 08:59:14 pm
That's true Lanvin, re sun damage, but I guess it can be reversed to a degree with invasive procedures ie laser?  :dontknow:

Waity has sagging skin, so she'll need a full face lift before she's 40 anyway.  :tehe:  :KEZZA:

Anyway, now let's see the Duchess of Do-Little start work - is that possible? At all?  lols  :think:  :o

Sorry, no idea about the photos.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: mousiekins on May 21, 2011, 09:42:28 pm
:thankyou:  June.  I know I've called Kate pathetic and often times, I feel that I'm the one because I'm still here (or @ least came back anyway after months of absence).  :hide: :hide: :hide:   I should just hang in the towel (so to speak), after all, they're already married and therefore, what's her name is her to stay.   :wellduh:

You're welcome Ceri - we're in this together.  :tehe:  kisss There has got to be some rational reason why an ensemble of intelligent, articulate individuals congregate here.  :-

I think we are all waiting for the fall and don't want to miss it. I know that when it comes I will be here will popcorn and enjoying the show. It is well deserved.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: karla64 on May 21, 2011, 11:12:17 pm
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/05/21/uk.royal.couple.honeymoon/index.html?hpt=T2


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Ceridwen on May 22, 2011, 12:08:39 am
:thankyou:  June.  I know I've called Kate pathetic and often times, I feel that I'm the one because I'm still here (or @ least came back anyway after months of absence).  :hide: :hide: :hide:   I should just hang in the towel (so to speak), after all, they're already married and therefore, what's her name is her to stay.   :wellduh:

You're welcome Ceri - we're in this together.  :tehe:  kisss There has got to be some rational reason why an ensemble of intelligent, articulate individuals congregate here.  :-

I think we are all waiting for the fall and don't want to miss it. I know that when it comes I will be here will popcorn and enjoying the show. It is well deserved.

I am definitely having that popcorn with you, front row seats and everything!   :BFF: :flower:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 22, 2011, 12:50:48 am
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I think we are all waiting for the fall and don't want to miss it. I know that when it comes I will be here will popcorn and enjoying the show. It is well deserved.

Kate's fall will start when she comes back fresh from her honeymoon and can't just go back to Berkshire or shop all day. She will have to go back to base or she will have to go to the Palace and start adhering to the Palace schedule, which starts BEFORE noon.


Title: Prince William and Kate Middleton given rare giant aphrodisiac
Post by: Nighthawk on May 22, 2011, 12:10:41 pm

Prince William and Kate Middleton given rare giant aphrodisiac shaped like Pippa Middleton's bum as honeymoon gift
 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/05/22/prince-william-and-kate-middleton-given-rare-giant-aphrodisiac-shaped-like-pippa-middleton-s-bum-as-honeymoon-gift-115875-23147500/#ixzz1N4vm1EQ1
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The couple were given the Coco de Mer coconut during a special ­ceremony as they ended their luxury 10-day stay on ­Friday.

They were granted a special ­licence to bring the world’s rarest fruit home from the Seychelles.

The “love nut” – which bears a striking resemblance to a pair of female buttocks – only grows in the Vallée de Mai nature reserve on ­Praslin ­Island


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Post by: benign on May 22, 2011, 11:35:21 pm

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At night the newlyweds were happy to mingle with other guests at the Sunset Bar.
An islander said: “They were certainly not aloof – far from it. They seemed relaxed and were happy to chat to other guests
- yeah right...so they werent really alone then...PW brought some friends again  lol lol



Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 24, 2011, 02:49:28 am
Yvonne York has a snit fit over being wrong and it being printed that she was wrong:

http://jezebel.com/5804663/three-weeks-later-wrongest-royal-wedding-correspondent-still-mad-she-was-wrong (http://jezebel.com/5804663/three-weeks-later-wrongest-royal-wedding-correspondent-still-mad-she-was-wrong)


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I don't mind that you pointed out when I've gotten something wrong, but in the interest of journalistic integrity, it would only be fair when you take into context the many more times where I've gotten royal exclusives correct!

Sincerely,

Yvonne Yorke

P.S: Not sure why you've put the fact that I'm both an award-winning journalist and a royal correspondent in quotations, as if there's any doubts. The fact that I'm both is easily proven. :)


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 24, 2011, 03:01:05 am
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At night the newlyweds were happy to mingle with other guests at the Sunset Bar. An islander said: “They were certainly not aloof – far from it. They seemed relaxed and were happy to chat to other guests
- yeah right...so they werent really alone then...PW brought some friends again  lol lol

Why be afraid of being alone with his new wife? She already managed to convince him to give her a ring and wedding, the ring having belonged to his brother no less!


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 24, 2011, 03:19:46 am
Happy to chat with guests, my eye.  It's more likely that they horned in on somebody else's precious time together because they couldn't stand one more minute with each other.  It's actually quite rude...AGAIN.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 24, 2011, 03:27:42 am
When Kate starts doing more duties and messing up, William will get even more sick of her. It will only be a matter of time; if she and William make it to the Olympics and Jubilee, just THINK of the sheer MESS that Kate makes that will ruin the landmark of HM's most important milestone, the most important of any monarch. She will too, just you wait. She will by then be so soaked in scandal that they won't let her show, or she will do something that will be a spectacular disaster during what will supposed to be the best two occasions of HM's life.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Yooper on May 24, 2011, 03:51:54 am
With absolutely no facts whatsoever, I just have a feeling that this wedding broke something inside HM.  My guess is she had much higher hopes for PW and was deeply wounded by his treatment of her in the initial stages and the ensuing non-stop challenges from them to her extremely high standards and protocol.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 24, 2011, 07:05:33 am
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With absolutely no facts whatsoever, I just have a feeling that this wedding broke something inside HM

You could tell by he experession in Qatar that she was broken, with that grim expression on her face.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: June on May 24, 2011, 12:37:02 pm
Happy to chat with guests, my eye.  It's more likely that they horned in on somebody else's precious time together because they couldn't stand one more minute with each other.  It's actually quite rude...AGAIN.

I agree.  :thumbsup:

Actually ladies, I agree with you both regarding HM. She seems to have lost her sparkle, her motivation, I see chinks in her armor - it's really sad, but I think she's just had it with the stunts her family has pulled over the years. This one by William was one too many, methinks.  :sob:


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: Finished!
Post by: Yooper on May 24, 2011, 04:30:54 pm
This mess, I think, truly broke HM's heart.  She has given so much for so long; she deserved better than this fiasco that has really downgraded everything for which she gave her soul, heart and dedication.  There's nothing old-fashioned about that, Mr. Modernization PW!


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: CH confirms that it has already begun!
Post by: Ceridwen on May 25, 2011, 12:31:52 am
Happy to chat with guests, my eye.  It's more likely that they horned in on somebody else's precious time together because they couldn't stand one more minute with each other.  It's actually quite rude...AGAIN.

I agree.  :thumbsup:

Actually ladies, I agree with you both regarding HM. She seems to have lost her sparkle, her motivation, I see chinks in her armor - it's really sad, but I think she's just had it with the stunts her family has pulled over the years. This one by William was one too many, methinks.  :sob:

I think so too June.   :thumbsup:  It's as if HM just put her arms up and said, "ahhh, I'm done with the lot of you!"  I'm not sure if she's just going through the motion but she appears to no longer have the spirit as she once had.  And this is the same woman who was strong enough to put a stop on her sister's relationship/marriage because the man in question was married/divorced @ the time.  And years later, HM changed in that she couldn't stop any of her children from going to every scandalous directions.  She couldn't stop her son from marrying that nasty ugly horse of a woman.  And now, she couldn't  and didn't do anything to stop the Middletons sickness to crawl and infect the palace.  

It's sad because I think once HM passes (which I hope she never will),  :o  I think it's only a matter of time before the monarchy ends.  I pretty much doubt the public has any kind of affection towards Pr. Charles and to Pr. William.  Unless, Pr. Harry makes a difference by doing something worthwhile and marrying a lady fit to be a royal princess, then all bets are off IMO.


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: Finished!
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 25, 2011, 08:45:53 am
She looks horribly thin and her hair looks fried, utterly fried with the ends horribly thin. Is her hair falling out?


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: Finished!
Post by: Ceridwen on June 02, 2011, 09:10:26 pm
I agree - she looks "horribly thin" (anorexic).  There are people who are thin but healthy in appearance but yet Kate, doesn't.  She reminded me on how Pr. Diana looked months after she gave birth to Pr. William when she suffered bulemia.  As for her hair, yes, the ends are dried due to much styling.  Kate has a naturally curly hair but friends had stated that she doesn't like the curly look and so, Kate blow dries her hair daily to get the long, straight, glossy look and curl the ends.  


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: Finished!
Post by: mousiekins on June 02, 2011, 09:15:02 pm
which is a shame because I like her with curly hair


Title: Re: all *Honeymoon* articles - Update: Finished!
Post by: Ceridwen on June 02, 2011, 09:18:05 pm
I think the curly hair would have suited her better.