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Title: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: benign on April 24, 2011, 01:51:18 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380021/She-s-wearing-Bruce-Oldfield-Countess-Wessex-feeling-little-frayed-Sophies-outburst-bodyguard-outside-bridal-shop.html

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It would seem that prenuptial nerves are not confined to Kate Middleton and her family.
Prince Edward’s wife Sophie seemed frayed around the edges as she was spotted leaving Bruce Oldfield’s bridal salon last week.
She took out her irritation on her personal bodyguard by waving her arms and jabbing at him with her fingers as she came out of the exclusive Knightsbridge boutique.

- poor bg..


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Yooper on April 24, 2011, 01:55:10 am
Can you imagine being in the employ of stellar designers like Oldfield and others and dealing with these nervous wrecks on a daily basis?  I know, they make a fortune, but still.  I walked in, saw the dress, had it fitted and left because, well, I'm perfect.  Just kidding.  It's just all so nuts, to me right now.  I'll get back in the groove.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Duchess Georgiana on April 24, 2011, 04:23:04 am
I feel sorry for the butlers/maids who work for this witch. I once saw pictures of Mette-Marit of Norway doing the same to her female protection officer. That's what happens when commoners marry into a Royal House. Their egos reach the moon and they think they can walk all over everyone.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Yooper on April 24, 2011, 04:25:58 am
Seriously.  Nothing is worse than a newbie but they eventually disappear.  I hope.

OT - anybody see the slaughtering (in my mind) of Upstairs/Downstairs by BBC recently?  I hated it.  They lost the whole sense of the thing this time 'round.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Kezza on April 24, 2011, 04:37:25 am
Dragging Sophie into the dirt to prop up you know who.

Dont know what has upset her.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Earth Angel on April 24, 2011, 04:57:44 am
Dear God, this makes Carole look like she fits right in. First UG and Andrew with comparable shady behaviors and now Sophie and Carole with unprofessional behavior in association with couture designers. However, I venture a guess that Sophie had both outfits commissioned from the same designer and/or made it clear from the beginning that she was not sure which outfit she would wear. Either way, the indecisive pretentiousness is uncalled for. Get a grip!


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Kezza on April 24, 2011, 04:58:21 am
Edit timed out sorry to double post.

I think the fact the media was out there might be a clue as to why Sophie wasnt happy. Did someone from the media get in the shop while Sophie was in there and got a bit too close to comfort for Sophie?  Maybe even tried to get a peek at something she was trying on in there? It might explain the reason she was angry and upset at the bodyguard if something like that did happen.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Earth Angel on April 24, 2011, 05:01:41 am
^^^ It's not Sophie's day! What's the big deal if the public has an idea of her outfit prior to the wedding day. It's not like she's the center of attention anyway. Why be so haughty? She and Carole will probably get along well. It appears they've lost their minds! Uncalled for and immature, imo. ...


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Kezza on April 24, 2011, 05:39:03 am
As I said i'm not judging her. Fact the media was there is perhaps a clue to what has set Sophie off. The media has gone crazy over the wedding and perhaps went a bit too far like trying to get a peep at what she was trying on in the changeroom while trying to get an inside scoop as to what one of the members of the RF maybe wearing to the wedding. Maybe she was angry and upset at the bodyguard for allowing the situation to develop by not checking properly as to who was entering the shop.

Sophie has never striked me as being someone who is after attention and just maybe at the time she felt justified at being a little upset at the time.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: berlin on April 24, 2011, 06:10:51 am
I like seeing Sophie like this.  It cuts away from her cookie-cutter image.

However, I do suspect that the media is trying to hurt Sophie's image to make way for Kate.  Reminds me of what happened to Diana when Sophie came onto the scene.  It will be interesting how Sophie reacts and treats Kate.  Of course she'll have to walk a fine line so as not to incur William or Charles' wrath.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Earth Angel on April 24, 2011, 06:22:46 am
Well Kezza, it's obvious I am judging Sophie and I am comfortable with doing so. Their security is supposed to protect them from physical harm, not from media leaks. Sure they can try to keep the media at bay, but the public does not pay their security bill to ensure the public is kept in the dark about their personal lives. Granted, they should be allowed to have personal lives, but I don't think it is their security's responsibility to make sure that is possible. Their security is to protect them at public events and from harmful people. Their PR, which Sophie is well trained in and capable of herself, is to protect their public image. If your scenario is the case, then Sophie failed to maintain her own privacy. It's nobody's fault but her own. It is not the security guard's fault, imo. ... Boundaries, these royals need to have boundaries, and they should know how to behave in public, as well as how to treat their hired help with dignity. Sophie's behavior is unbecoming and she failed herself for all account and purposes, as far as I'm concerned. ...  


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Kezza on April 24, 2011, 06:48:30 am
I like seeing Sophie like this.  It cuts away from her cookie-cutter image.

However, I do suspect that the media is trying to hurt Sophie's image to make way for Kate.  Reminds me of what happened to Diana when Sophie came onto the scene.  It will be interesting how Sophie reacts and treats Kate.  Of course she'll have to walk a fine line so as not to incur William or Charles' wrath.

I agree Berlin. The media will play the rest of the RF off against Kate and vice versa. Its not a side of Sophie we see and her and Edward like to keep a quiet and low profile, so I wonder what happened. I suspect the media may of gone too far or the Body guard wasnt doing the job he was paid to do.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 24, 2011, 08:32:16 am
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that Sophie isn't reacting well to the chaos that the RF has just been plunged into and I am sure she isn't thrilled with the thought of her ill daughter Louise being exposed to so many around the world. Then considering the regard that Sophie has for HM, I am sure that Sophie is a bit peeved at the stress that William has caused HM and the rest of the family. At some point Edward is going to get picked at by the press and then there's this joke of a wedding she will have to go to. See if that doesn't cause problems. This is horrible for all involved really.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on April 24, 2011, 06:52:10 pm
Actually the media, tries to make a twist with this story. They try to make the reader think it has something to do with the designer, but they don't no why Sophie was up set. I don't think she did a Carole here.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Alexandrine on April 24, 2011, 07:01:48 pm
She looks really upset and nearly crying. I hope we read more about this.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: June on April 25, 2011, 05:17:06 am
^ Yes, she does. However, I agree with EA - this kind of public tantrum induced hissy fit is just not acceptable conduct for a royal of her status. I wouldn't classify her as a "minor" royal - she is married to the Queen's son and is part of the immediate family. Of course, once William steps up more, she will take a further back seat, but that is not the case for now.

I do wonder what got to her though. Perhaps the strain from the wedding, as Lady Louise is in the bridal party?  :think:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 25, 2011, 06:59:07 am
I think that it could be nerves about Lady Louise and I am sure that there's something else. It looks like the whole RF is on tempermental tenterhooks.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Varya on April 26, 2011, 04:43:43 am
Who knows what the situation really is/was. Maybe in fact her bodyguard didn't do something correctly (aka: let the media too near or something) or most probably it doesn't have anything to do with the designer or the bodyguard but something entirely different.



OR (conspiracy theory here) maybe the Middletrashes took up his entire time to do their outfits and Sophie's was pushed to the side...  :whistle:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: June on April 26, 2011, 04:49:21 am
I'm going to give her a pass this time because she looks really distressed. Still, there is a time and place for such misconduct, and this was not it.  bignono

Is it her job to discipline the protection officer? I highly doubt it; he is not one of HER employees - he's hired and paid for by the government. There would be proper channels she could go through if she wasn't satisfied with his performance.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 26, 2011, 06:57:42 am
Look, people can come unhinged at any point if pushed badly enough.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on April 26, 2011, 07:34:33 pm
Sophie is allegedly adored. She can do no wrong.  IMHO at 46 it is simply menopause. Same with Carole but Carole is probably PAST it at 56 IMHO.


Yooper  -  YES I was like "WTF" ?? "Upstairs Downstairs" was the most simple, poorly-written, boring series ever. The scenes with that sister of Agnes were the worst. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 27, 2011, 12:37:11 am
I can't fathom how Edward might be losing it regularly or how many courtiers might be ranting and raving over the phone, so I don't blame her for looking frayed and perhaps being a little tempermental.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex feeling a little bit frayed
Post by: June on April 27, 2011, 01:38:51 pm
I was surprised at Sophie's public display of temper and distress too, but that only adds to my disappointment in her.


Title: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Nighthawk on June 12, 2011, 03:46:44 am
Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2002586/Kate-Middleton-Sophie-gets-trainer-younger-royals.html#ixzz1P1fzJqzY
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The Countess of Wessex has hired a personal trainer to help her keep up with the younger members of the Royal Family.

Prince Edward’s 46-year-old wife has undertaken gruelling sessions at their home in Bagshot, Surrey, to regain her svelte figure.
:rolleyes:


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Contessa on June 12, 2011, 11:12:31 am
I hope she does well.
Though she's not overweight, she may just feel a little uncomfortable.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Byechoc on June 12, 2011, 11:16:33 am
Well get a trainer is not bad.. and help us with our health
Good for her...


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Yooper on June 12, 2011, 03:16:33 pm
Sophie gets a trainer to keep in shape should've been enough for the article topic.  Comparing is flawed and unnecessary.  The best motive to get in shape is to do it for yourself, not to try and be the bone that WK or what anybody else is.  Does Wasty have to be the yardstick and reason for everything?  It's condescending to a woman who, probably, in fact, is wise enough to be aware of doing things for her own reasons.  Silly to say otherwise.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 13, 2011, 03:40:22 am
I think Kate has been leaking; before the engagement, we knew next to nothing about the Wessexes, but now we know more.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Alexandrine on June 13, 2011, 08:42:32 pm
I think that it's the press making a battle between them to create drama, although I can believe that about Sophie.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Yooper on June 13, 2011, 10:06:42 pm
Well, I think the media is going to end up on the stinky end of the stick on this one because something tells me that this wedding is going to be gracious, understated, elegant and royally appropriate.  I might even go so far as to say that it sets a new standard.  Not the gaudy three-ring circus of the Cambridges' mess-a-thon.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Nighthawk on June 13, 2011, 10:09:24 pm
I'm glad that sophie is working out and all that but did they really have to use WK's name seriously


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Yooper on June 13, 2011, 10:13:32 pm
Drives me nuts, too, NH.  She has to be mentioned in everything. What Would Kate Do? should be a bumper sticker on every party bus in California next month, if she wants PR so badly.  Let's at least get it accurate for once.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on June 13, 2011, 10:44:03 pm
I believe Sophie is better, better, better than Kate :cookie:


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: YooperModerator on June 13, 2011, 10:49:49 pm
And I agree, agree, agree with you my dear! ;)


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Yooper on June 14, 2011, 12:06:14 am
Me, too, too, too.  kisss


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 14, 2011, 12:09:26 am
I think that it's the press making a battle between them to create drama, although I can believe that about Sophie.

I personally think that Kate really, really gets yelled at (or at least withering looks) by the courtiers and Charles and likely William. I can only think that William wishes that he had some peace in his domestic life. He had it before, but he wrecked it by marrying Kate. Now there's more strife in the RF than has been in YEARS and Kate is the source of all of it.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Contessa on June 14, 2011, 12:13:07 am
I don't think the real juicy strife has begun yet KF.
But look forward to seeing it all unravel when it does happen.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on June 14, 2011, 12:34:34 am
And I agree, agree, agree with you my dear! ;)
Me, too, too, too.  kisss
:hug: :hug: :hug: kisss kisss kisss

I do not believe that Sophie is doing this because of Kate, Sophie in years of royal family should already be accustomed to seeing beautiful women, but she has a strong personality, she does what is good for her. The press must learn that it is useless to put KM at the center of gravity, it lacks the charisma to her ...


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Yooper on June 14, 2011, 12:35:10 am
Don't we ALL know this as a Truth?  Any of us who are married anyway?  No matter how close you are, no matter how much in love, marriage changes everything.  I even foolishly lived with my first, now gratefully ex-husband for a while and thought that was the same thing.  It isn't.  It's not even in the same planetary system.

So, it follows the line of deductive reasoning that every marriage has an adjustment period.  THIS marriage was, in my opinion, doomed before it began, so any small issue is more than magnified by the marriage contract that feels, if you're not fully prepared and supremely in love, suddenly constrictive.  You have to think about somebody else first and are held to it.  You start thinking about when you're 70 years old and look at that person and wonder.

When I look at the picture of Sophie and her groom to be, I see a sort of mutual respect that I never saw in WK/PW.  I see a pair of people willing to take on the challenge and have a clear and present concept of what their future holds.  It's enormously helpful when the reality shows up.

Where you once thought that it was 'cute' that he snaps his newspaper....after marriage?  You start looking at the hatchet by the fireplace.  My grandma said it best.  "Imagine the worst thing about him."  I did.  "Now.  Magnify it a million times.  That's marriage."

If you hold to that logic, and have been there, then you can accurately assume that the marriage of WK/PW is not going to last unless they make a new contract of mutual understanding.  And even at that rate, you're never going to be with the one you love.  And I think Sophie and her groom get that.  Wasty never, ever did, but will.  And yes, I do believe that she's getting a lot of 'guidance' from her husband.  And I don't think it's very pretty.  These two, even after years and years together, in my mind, never really knew each other.  Why?  Because Wasty lied about who she was.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: windsor2 on June 14, 2011, 03:33:39 am
These two, even after years and years together, in my mind, never really knew each other.  Why?  Because Wasty lied about who she was.
Agreed Yooper. Wills is said to be stubborn and arrogant so he could also be blamed for believing and trusting Waity.


"Sophie suffered a fall while out horse riding in April, breaking a rib in the process. Ordered to take it easy, the Countess was upset to find she gained some weight and, once recovered, she contacted a personal trainer to visit her at home."

This is the real reason to me. It's about being healthy not keeping up with Waity and the younger crew.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Yooper on June 14, 2011, 06:47:41 am
It's Wasty PR bullsh#t, pure and simple.  What you said is true, without a doubt in my mind, Windsor.  She fell, had to be prone and gained a few, then wanted to lose it when she felt better.  End of story.  No need to make it about Wasty's bones.  Somebody's working overtime to sell this pap to the public without realizing that the public have a brain.  GaDUH.

PW believing Wasty's verbiage still confuses me.  There are only two theories:  One, Wasty's telling the truth.  Or, Two, PW is delusional and desperate.  I take #2.

Maybe I've watched too many Miss Marple's, but, for me, no one can watch too many Miss Marples.  Not with the marvelous Margaret Rutherford.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 14, 2011, 11:46:17 pm
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Somebody's working overtime to sell this pap to the public without realizing that the public have a brain.  GaDUH.

It HAS to be Kate; how else on earth would we know of Lady Louise's eye issues or about half the stuff we know of now? As for William, he's definately delusional and I hope someone breaks through to him. He's like an alcoholic who has seen way too much and needs intervention.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Grace and Diana Fan on June 15, 2011, 12:09:28 am
If Sophie got a trainer, I doubt it has anything to do with Waity! Seriously, come off it.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: June on June 15, 2011, 05:50:02 am
Don't we ALL know this as a Truth?  Any of us who are married anyway?  No matter how close you are, no matter how much in love, marriage changes everything.  I even foolishly lived with my first, now gratefully ex-husband for a while and thought that was the same thing.  It isn't.  It's not even in the same planetary system.

So, it follows the line of deductive reasoning that every marriage has an adjustment period.  THIS marriage was, in my opinion, doomed before it began, so any small issue is more than magnified by the marriage contract that feels, if you're not fully prepared and supremely in love, suddenly constrictive.  You have to think about somebody else first and are held to it.  You start thinking about when you're 70 years old and look at that person and wonder.

When I look at the picture of Sophie and her groom to be, I see a sort of mutual respect that I never saw in WK/PW.  I see a pair of people willing to take on the challenge and have a clear and present concept of what their future holds.  It's enormously helpful when the reality shows up.

Where you once thought that it was 'cute' that he snaps his newspaper....after marriage?  You start looking at the hatchet by the fireplace.  My grandma said it best.  "Imagine the worst thing about him."  I did.  "Now.  Magnify it a million times.  That's marriage."

If you hold to that logic, and have been there, then you can accurately assume that the marriage of WK/PW is not going to last unless they make a new contract of mutual understanding.  And even at that rate, you're never going to be with the one you love.  And I think Sophie and her groom get that.  Wasty never, ever did, but will.  And yes, I do believe that she's getting a lot of 'guidance' from her husband.  And I don't think it's very pretty.  These two, even after years and years together, in my mind, never really knew each other.  Why?  Because Wasty lied about who she was.

Great post, Y.  :worship:

Yes, Waity 'lied about who she was', but I also believe that the reason they 'never really knew each other' was by reason that William kept her at arm's length. He shoved her back to Berkshire when he got tired of her and wanted freedom. He used her when he wanted or needed company. It was easy for her to keep up the ruse.

It wouldn't have mattered to Waity, but William never got to see the real Waity ... and he didn't want to imagine the real one, either. He conditioned his mind into believing that she could handle this gig, for whatever reason/s ...  :June:


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Yooper on June 15, 2011, 03:49:43 pm
 :BFF: June!

PW may be starting to wake up now.  Too little, too late, but I totally agree that he really bent his mind into believing certain aspects of WK's character and will be deeply disappointed.  She knows The Sell, but she doesn't have the product in stock, and never will.

But on topic, Sophie is a woman in her own right and if were she, I would be livid that whatever I'm doing is somehow 'inspired' by Wasty.  It's such blatant PR, I can't even believe these things when I see it with my own eyes.  And I would think it would cause more dissent and resentment within the Circle over garbage like this article.  She's not "all that", media!  She just isn't.  And, boy, are they going to back pedal in the not-too-distant future.


Title: Re: Sophie gets a trainer to keep up with Kate
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 16, 2011, 05:01:30 am
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I would be livid that whatever I'm doing is somehow 'inspired' by Wasty.  It's such blatant PR, I can't even believe these things when I see it with my own eyes.  And I would think it would cause more dissent and resentment within the Circle over garbage like this article.


I would be seeing red myself and as for the Circle, I'm sure that there are already acid looks at her over the dinner table at Clarence House. As it is she's been causing Camilla quite a bit of bad press and Camilla was recently accused of being the reason that Kate and William aren't staying at Clarence House.


Title: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: serene grace on October 05, 2011, 11:11:08 pm
I went to the Royal.gov site to view how many charities and royal patronages came up for the Countess of Wessex.  So far six pages of charities and patronages come up for her.

So while the press is going overboard to make Kate into working Royal, here is Sophie the Countess of Wessex quietly working hard as a Royal and she has been doing this for ten years now, but the press still wants to ignore her and focus on lazy Kate.

Sophie is very pretty, seems very sweet and is a go-getter, self-starter and hardworker, it would be nice if the press would throw the lady a compliment every now and then and some lovely press.

http://www.royal.gov.uk/CharitiesandPatronages/Search%20Charities%20and%20Patronages.aspx
 
Look at all the charities and patronages she is a part of, it goes on and on for six pages.

If link does not work, I'll go through and list them all later when I have time.
She has so many patronages and charities she is a member of and works with.



Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: windsor2 on October 05, 2011, 11:23:39 pm
TThanks for pointing this out, serene grace. :thankyou:
She should get a lot of press because this is how a member of the British Royal Family should behave.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 05, 2011, 11:28:50 pm
She a princess in all senses. I love her   :sigh:


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: YooperModerator on October 06, 2011, 12:28:41 am
Hmm she's even a global ambassador for one organisation and she has a few international things going as well, I didn't know that!
 :thumbsup: good job Sophie!


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: Contessa on October 06, 2011, 06:51:36 am
She's something else.
Go Sophie. :spooky:


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: serene grace on October 06, 2011, 09:50:26 pm
I've always liked her and I like that fact that Sophie actually had two charities she worked with prior to ever meeting Pr.Edward. When she worked at the radio station, she got involved with her a childrens charity on her own.

The UK press ignores her, but I think she's better for it now, because the UK press is a nasty bunch if they decide you will be their target to bash.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 06, 2011, 09:55:51 pm
I bet she thinks for that. She has a much calm life without the press pressure.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: Alexandrine on October 06, 2011, 10:23:37 pm
I think she is low key because the press has already made a joke of her.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 06, 2011, 10:26:33 pm
Oh, i had no idea   :hide:
Why, what did they publish?


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: Alexandrine on October 06, 2011, 10:27:17 pm
She believed the fake sheik as did Sarah recently.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 06, 2011, 10:28:48 pm
That was so unfair  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: Alexandrine on October 06, 2011, 10:31:51 pm
If she hadn't done anything wrong, she wouldn't have been find out.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 06, 2011, 10:35:04 pm
But in the begining it's normal to make some mistakes


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: serene grace on October 07, 2011, 12:08:24 am
I agree  but it was different than Sarah in that Sophie was not sneaking around.. she was working for her PR firm conducting business, it was not some underhanded secret  business on HER part, the problem was not that she went to dinner with the sheik for business because  she always went to dinner or lunch with pr clients, it was conducted as normal business(and Sophie thought he was a real sheik and if he was real, there would not have been a problem besides gossiping she was doing)...the problem was Sophie discussed royalty and her private thoughts politically during the conversation.

The fake sheik idea was said to have come from Prince Charles pr office in attempt to put Sophie out of the press,and to have her as a new bride in the house of windsor viewed unfavorably in order to prop-up Camilla who he was trying to build up her image. Up until that point, Sophie was getting basically good press and Diana comparison's I do believe Charles was involved in that whole shiek-set up, despite it all being covered up now. One of his men who stopped working for him a few years later, said that Pr.Charles was involved in that whole sheik affair, I believe it.

Sophie basically said the Queen Mother was an Old dear.
She said Charles and Camilla were the two most unpopular people in the Country at that time.
She said Blair was too Presidential
and she something about Blair destroying the Countryside.

She did not say anything about Princess Diana....that was made up by the NOTW. Sophie never said one unkind thing about the Princess, but the press ran with that.

Still I think Sophie is very respected now, despite the press attempts to destroy her and if one mistake is all they can find about her since marrying into the Royal family, I think she's performing quite well. Because if you look at Sarah Ferguson, she was in the press messing up every month when she was married to Pr.Andrew.

Sophie's made one wrong move in the press, which was a set-up from a newspaper, but she wasn't doing underhanded business like Sarah, it was perfectly ok for her to take on a sheik pr-client and to take him to lunch or dinner, she did not know the guy was fake, if the sheik was real it would not have been a big story..except that she gossiped about the royals which was really what she did wrong, imo.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 07, 2011, 12:13:34 am
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Up until that point, Sophie was getting basically good press and Diana comparison's I do believe Charles was involved in that whole shiek-set up, despite it all being covered up now. One of his men who stopped working for him a few years later, said that Pr.Charles was involved in that whole sheik affair, I believe it.



Oh God, if that is true... Family is suposed to be to protect, not to do these things... :wopedo:


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: serene grace on October 07, 2011, 12:20:08 am
I read it quoted from one of Charles former PR men, he said Charles was in on that whole set up, he did not want Sophie to be popular,because he was working on Camilla's image and he also said Charles was determined to stop Pr.Edward's company, he had various reasons for wanting Sophie and Edward contained,he did not want them out front in public. I believe it.  The idea was negative press until they throw in the towel and come in under the umbrella of the firm, quietly retreating to the backround.

IMO Kate can forget it, if the thinks she can beat Pr.Charles at the pr game, Kate is never going to be put on the world stage in a big way, If Pr.Charles has anything to say about it.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 07, 2011, 12:26:49 am
Indeed.

I imagine what they talk in the table, on dinner (considering all those things)


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: YooperModerator on October 07, 2011, 12:36:01 am
Ah so that's what happened I always found it odd that she was put into the shadows like that because of one mistake.
Especially if you consider the fact that HM apparently likes her a lot!
Always thought that Charly was a sly devil that you shouldn't underestimate at any case.
Good luck going against him Kate!  :tehe:
Wonder what would happen if the Wessexes decided to quit the Firm and start a business on their own again :think: after all Camilla is 'inside' now so...


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: serene grace on October 07, 2011, 12:48:51 am
Thank goodness Sophie had the Queen and Pr.Phillip behind her at that point. Yes she made a mistake, but the press pounding was a bit over the top for one mistake. imo The Queen made a public statement that she supported Sophie.
 Sophie was breaking down in public if you remember after the story came out, she was going to things and crying publicly, I think the Queen put a stop to it on the inside and put a protective arm around her in the press, but by then Charles and the press minions had their way.imo

I think with Kate the difference is the press is on her side and they want Pr.William to be golden, whereas Edward had made a enemy of the press and they didn't care about Sophie really, she whatever happened to them was just collateral damage. The problem for Kate is she only has one real protector in the House of Windsor, it's Pr.William, but I don't think anyone else would step up to save her, the way the Queen did with Sophie.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 07, 2011, 01:02:03 am
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Thank goodness Sophie had the Queen and Pr.Phillip behind her at that point. Yes she made a mistake, but the press pounding was a bit over the top for one mistake. imo The Queen made a public statement that she supported Sophie.

HM is my hero  :spooky:


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 07, 2011, 02:45:34 am
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Up until that point, Sophie was getting basically good press and Diana comparison's I do believe Charles was involved in that whole shiek-set up, despite it all being covered up now. One of his men who stopped working for him a few years later, said that Pr.Charles was involved in that whole sheik affair, I believe it.


Oh God, if that is true... Family is suposed to be to protect, not to do these things... :wopedo:

Another reason men should not marry mistresses; they spend so much time working on getting them accepted that the man in question always ends up backstabbing his own family in order to ensure social acceptance at any cost.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: Alexandrine on October 07, 2011, 05:36:49 pm
Interesting post SG! But I thought that the big mess was more related to using her connections as a new royal for her business.



Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: serene grace on October 08, 2011, 08:15:28 am
it was that she went to dinner and name dropped Royalty ,she discussed her royal opinions and she discussed political things and mentioned royals, but that was all she did, she gossiped about royals which was a no, no......because it was viewed as using royals to impress the client, but she didn't do more than that.

She said the Queen(Mother's) an old dear

She said Charles and Camilla were two of the most unpopular people

She said Blair was too presidential and ruining the countryside

She didn't say anything mean about Princess Diana, that was totally made up ,by NOTW

Sophie went to a very public lunch or dinner with a client who pretended to be a sheik. She started chitcatting about royalty and private things at a lunch-dinner ,  some felt it was to impress the client, but she never did more than sit and talk, nothing more. It was not some sneaky backroom deal like Sarah. Sophie just basically was gossiping too much.

The sheik was the dishonest person in that meeting, not Sophie, she truly thought the guy came to her PR company for pr, she was doing what she always did, taking a client to lunch, but she did gossip too much, she should  never have been discussing the royals even if it was a comment like the Queen's an old dear, the press blew it all up to be way more.



Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: MOSAIC on October 09, 2011, 03:46:44 pm

I've just been looking at the GREMB and came upon the 40th birthday festivities given by King Harold and Queen Sonia of Norway for their only daughter Princess Martha, and there celebrating with them was a large group of royals from the Netherlands and other places and there in the front row I saw Sophie Countess of Essex, and presumably Edward.
No Charles and Camilla, no other British Royals.  So she and Edward are the Queen's automatic choice as representatives at European and Scandanavian courts.  They must all know her very well now, and that is very important.  Wasty will never replace her in that way, good heavens they don't even know William that well!!!!


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: Byechoc on October 09, 2011, 06:53:21 pm
When Charles be king will chose other people to represent him... but if Sophie and Eduard can make friends with those royals maybe they can get a invite for them... Waiity will do everything to go to that parties...


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: memyselfandroyals on October 09, 2011, 10:13:12 pm
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No Charles and Camilla, no other British Royals.  So she and Edward are the Queen's automatic choice as representatives at European and Scandanavian courts.  They must all know her very well now, and that is very important.  Wasty will never replace her in that way, good heavens they don't even know William that well!!!!


Sophie is amazing. I admire her so much  :sigh:


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: Varya on January 05, 2012, 04:08:07 am
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Up until that point, Sophie was getting basically good press and Diana comparison's I do believe Charles was involved in that whole shiek-set up, despite it all being covered up now. One of his men who stopped working for him a few years later, said that Pr.Charles was involved in that whole sheik affair, I believe it.


Oh God, if that is true... Family is suposed to be to protect, not to do these things... :wopedo:

Another reason men should not marry mistresses; they spend so much time working on getting them accepted that the man in question always ends up backstabbing his own family in order to ensure social acceptance at any cost.

That's very true! Look what happened with Wallis Simpson and Edward!


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 06, 2012, 01:24:28 am
Sophie had best avoid Kate since Kate seems to pretty much burn anyone who does reach out to her. I think Kate is a broken soul.


Title: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: serene grace on September 24, 2012, 12:52:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRpu-howcs0

She speaks here at timecode 1:00. I find her voice much more pleasant than Kate's.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: Freya on September 24, 2012, 01:44:49 pm
She seems much more natural than Kate. Has she got some hair loss at the front?


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: serene grace on September 24, 2012, 01:54:14 pm
Yes, her voice seems more natural than Kate's and she does sound more intelligent, IMO.  :bored:

Ingrid Seward once said, even though Sophie cut her hair like' or similar to Diana's, that in person she could see why she would prefer the fringe(bangs) because Sophie's hair is very fine.



http://www.zazzle.co.uk/sophie_countess_of_wessex_1995_stickers-217772635006871397

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKVnopM8WU0


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: Freya on September 24, 2012, 01:58:17 pm
^
Look at 1min into the video. She looks as if she has a skin condition on her hairline.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: Snokitty on September 24, 2012, 02:52:01 pm
Sophie is more intelligent than Kate. Sophie had a career when she got married which helped her personal growth. Kate's career was whatever William wants.   :o


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: serene grace on September 24, 2012, 03:02:15 pm
YUP, Kates career was to be on her back and William's go to girl when he desired.

I like what Sophie said about being inivolved with her charities.  :flower:


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: Snokitty on September 24, 2012, 03:05:34 pm
Yes and at least Sophie does get involved with her charities and at the same time seems to be a hands on Mum like so many other women.

I just don't see that being the case with Kate.  


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: serene grace on September 24, 2012, 04:07:57 pm
Kate never really got her hands dirty before marriage, never was a hardworker, I think she'll find it difficult being completely involved in royal duties. Sophie gets her schedules, does her homework on these events, puts time in.

Someone wrote that Pr.Edward by the time he was 18 or 19 had done twice to three times as many Royal duties as Pr.William when he married at 28. I am not sure where the person got the info?


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: mrharrywales on September 24, 2012, 05:39:07 pm
I loved her voice... She sounds really sweet...

My only problem with this interview is that she said "ammm' all the time. I think she should work on that.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: Acornia on October 10, 2012, 06:39:24 am
She doesn't have a posh accent that I expected her to have. Kate's accent was polished up (she slipped several times during the engagement interview) perhaps Sophie didn't undergo the same lessons that Waity did  :tehe:

I think she did alright but like mrharrywales said, the 'uhmmm's are distracting.



Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: serene grace on October 10, 2012, 08:38:14 am
Kate just sounds Fake, imo, not even posh, but rather indecipherable, it sounds like she has learned a new language and just learned to speak it.

I like Sophie's voice, much more gentry of the Countryside sounding and authentic, like the ladies from Pride and Predjudice and more importantly her ability to speak clear thoughts intelligently.

Kate sounds completely fake, she doesn't even sound posh to me because I have to strain to sometimes understand what she's saying because she is trying too hard to get the posh voice going and has no real concise thoughts to verbalize what she even means.

The thing I read about Diana, is that when she spoke, you could hear that she was from a highborn background by the way certain vowels were delivered, but she was clear and understandable, it flowed. Diana never spoke as if she had a mouth full of marbles. Kate is getting it so wrong, that's why she sounds so fake, it's sounds too put on, she just sounds like someone trying to speak like she believes the posh speak. Kate just sounds phoney.

Dickie Arbiter said Kate when she speaks, he said basically you can hear her middleclass background, she gets the vowels all wrong.


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex's "Voice and speech"
Post by: Spice on October 11, 2012, 03:49:09 am
So refreshing to hear a genuine, caring person from that family speaking, and not putting on a fake accent!

Sophie is lovely.


Title: How the Queen helped Sophie put her wobbles behind her with stunning results
Post by: berlin on April 07, 2013, 01:18:51 am
How the Queen helped Sophie put her wobbles behind her with stunning results, as the confident Countess turned heads on Easter Sunday in an electric blue outfit


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2304827/How-Queen-helped-Sophie-wobbles-her.html#ixzz2PjSKzBhV
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Adorable first picture


Title: Re: How the Queen helped Sophie put her wobbles behind her with stunning results
Post by: Stephanie on April 07, 2013, 12:32:48 pm
Sophie has found her place in life, she seems to enjoy family life and her duties.
Edward isn't photogenic and seems shy in public but maybe he is nicer then he seems if they managed to stay together for all those years. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: How the Queen helped Sophie put her wobbles behind her with stunning results
Post by: MelissaRose on April 07, 2013, 05:08:51 pm
The first picture is lovely, it speaks volumes about Sophie's character that the Queen trusts her so much, and clearly loves her. She is a very elegant, well-dressed lady too. A true Princess. kisss

Sophie definitely has the best position of all royal wives. All the benefits, but not so much of a goldfish-bowl life and pretty much able to live a normal life - more so than the rest of the RF anyway. Would much rather have her life than Kate's!


Title: The real terrifying story of how Sophie Wessex and her baby cheated death
Post by: Snokitty on March 22, 2014, 08:24:53 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2586553/The-real-terrifying-story-Sophie-baby-cheated-death-haunts-her.html

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Sophie Wessex is usually serenity itself. Quiet and friendly, yes, but always in control. An elegant, regal figure no more prone to emotional outbursts than the Queen herself.

So when the Countess was pictured, red eyes brimful of tears and hugging a midwife in a Surrey hospital earlier this week, it was both touching and shocking. Her breakdown, though, was entirely understandable. For she was returning to Frimley Park Hospital, where ten years ago she nearly  died while giving birth to her first child, Louise.  As the Countess of Wessex opened the hospital’s new neo-natal unit, she said: ‘The service you can provide can literally make the difference between life and death. I can attest to that.’ Now, for the first time, the Mail can reveal the full story of how

Sophie’s life hung in the balance that day — and how it has profoundly affected her as a mother.
‘It was utterly traumatic, and in some ways Sophie has never got over it,’ says a friend. ‘It completely reshaped her character and affected how she relates to her children.’


Title: Re: The real terrifying story of how Sophie Wessex and her baby cheated death
Post by: kolkomilko on March 22, 2014, 03:08:15 pm
It is really sad. Marcus Setchell didn't get any more attention, rewards and party like he had after Waity's labour.  :nervous:


Title: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 15, 2014, 06:47:44 pm
^^^^ Actually, no, more like this one as its a close up.

http://theincredibletide.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/dark.jpg

Of course Sophie has wrinkles and lines, but she doesn't look scary.  Kate looks scary and if I didn't know her I'd put her between 42-45 and no less.  I've seen better skin on faces and necks of 55 year olds.

I work with portraits in Photoshop and kate is bad bad for her age.  Sophie, nope, she's not doing great either but I like the woman's softer appearance even if she had double the wrinkles - her eyes are kind whereas Kate's are hard, calculating, and yes, at times miserable from the bed she now has to lie in - the bed she made for herself.

My grandmother always said by 30 we start wearing our inside on our face - I think she's right.  :flower:

I agree with your grandmother!    :hi:

I have to say that I am bemused by the number of royal watchers on different boards who want to compare Kate and Sophie.   That is comparing apples and oranges.    Kate is married to a man in line to be the next king.    Sophie is way, way down the line, with no prospect of ever being queen.    Sophie is old enough to be Kate's mother, so I don't understand the royal watchers who want to compare those two with regard to dress and appearances.  They are two different generations and I would hope that Sophie would NOT be dressing like a daughter [Sarah Ferguson has been ridiculed for doing the same].   

However, since posters are wanting to compare the two, here are my thoughts:   Kate is in way, way, over her head.  She married a man who was bored with her.  Their university relationship had run its course and she should have moved on.   She did not and now is a very unhappy young woman.   This, of course, shows up in her demeanor and appearance.

Sophie, too, was in way, way over her head, but she was lucky in that the Queen and Philip protected her and Edward with their failing business ventures and Sophie's selling her royal position.  The Queen has bankrolled them, and Sophie was very lucky in that Charles and Andrew were both divorced and so Sophie was the Second Lady after the Queen.  So she enjoyed an artificial status for several years.   

Sophie, like Kate, married a man who was not thrilled about getting married -- Ed and Soph dated many years and there were stories over the years that Sophie gave Ed ultimatums -- but Ed and Sophie work because it's more like a business arrangement.  They both are getting what they need/want and have no other expectations.   So Sophie is luckier in that regard more so than Kate who is expected by the public to be in love with her prince, and William is expected to be Prince Charming to his Princess,  and every little gesture is remarked upon.   The Wessexes don't receive that kind of attention and so their platonic relationship gets by.

But Sophie is quite calculating.   We can see from stories that have appeared in the news since 2011 about how Sophie is a royal favorite and such an asset to the monarchy, etc. etc.    We can see how she has changed her dress since 2011, wearing clothes that a 50-year old shouldn't wear and running up and down hockey fields looking ridiculous, showing her cleavage, etc.    She is obviously trying to compete with a woman young enough to be her daughter, and if she doesn't pull back from that, she will quickly become a figure of ridicule.

Because . . . while Kate has had her day of reckoning, coming to terms with the reality of the expectations of her royal position, Sophie has not yet had her day of reckoning.    But it is moving closer.  Turning 50 will be a big blow to her.   Philip and the Queen are quite elderly and their protective embrace is weakening and the Wessexes are going to be on their own.   Charles will not underwrite them and he and Edward are not on the best terms.    So, while Sophie has made the most of her situation and the void within the Royal Family -- and this shows just how calculating she is to have accomplished what she has -- it is all coming to an end, and then we will see Sophie's true character [of which we have seen glimpses in her talk with the undercover journalist and her yelling at her bodyguard in public].   


Title: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: HennyPenny on October 15, 2014, 09:40:04 pm
^^
ITA  :flower:

Please do not quote the message above yours, use ^^ or the name of the poster to make it clear who you are referring to.


Title: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on October 17, 2014, 10:23:19 pm
I tend to agree with you MissH but I see no sense in pulling Sophie apart.  It isn't going to make Kate look better in any way at all, not even if Sophie looked and acted like a dragon.

 :cookie:


Title: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on October 17, 2014, 10:39:12 pm
You cannot compare the Countess of Wessex to the Duchess of Crotchbridge. That dog don't hunt.


Title: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 17, 2014, 11:44:34 pm
I tend to agree with you MissH but I see no sense in pulling Sophie apart.  It isn't going to make Kate look better in any way at all, not even if Sophie looked and acted like a dragon.
 :cookie:

True, just as criticisms about Kate do not make Sophie younger, prettier, more interesting, more genuine, and the next Princess of Wales.    :thumbsup:   

   


Title: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 18, 2014, 12:58:41 am
I also do not see the need of making Kate image worse by tring to make the rest of the BRF women as saints.

Kate is a mesd but so is Sophie. And no one can forget the Yorks.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Mandosiel on October 18, 2014, 01:12:52 am
Anne is the only one who acts the same she always has and doesn't care about fashion, just doing her job and damn hardworking at it too, but she's not a saint either.

I don't really think Sophie is the perfect Royal wife, she does the best she can with her situation and that's pretty much anyone could expect given her standing in the pecking order. I do think she's been a bit off lately, feeling the weight of looking her years I guess and not happy about it, happens to a lot of woman, especially ones who are under scrutiny like celebs and such.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 18, 2014, 01:25:58 am
^ was not able to think a better title if anyone offers something catchy I can change it.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Rosella on October 18, 2014, 02:02:17 am
I don't think Sophie Wessex is perfect, she has had her share of mistakes and is fairly low down in the pecking order of the Royal Family. However, she always looks interested at her public engagements, (for which she doesn't get a great deal of publicity), is hardworking and has made an effort to maintain her marriage, be a good mother and get on well with her mother-in-law. As a minor royal you can't ask for more from Sophie really.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Mandosiel on October 18, 2014, 03:41:56 am
^Totally agree.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 18, 2014, 03:17:53 pm
^ was not able to think a better title if anyone offers something catchy I can change it.


It's perfect!     :flower:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on October 18, 2014, 09:03:34 pm
I tend to agree with you MissH but I see no sense in pulling Sophie apart.  It isn't going to make Kate look better in any way at all, not even if Sophie looked and acted like a dragon.
 :cookie:

True, just as criticisms about Kate do not make Sophie younger, prettier, more interesting, more genuine, and the next Princess of Wales.    :thumbsup:   

   

I never said they did.  Neither do I even think that.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 18, 2014, 09:43:21 pm
I tend to agree with you MissH but I see no sense in pulling Sophie apart.  It isn't going to make Kate look better in any way at all, not even if Sophie looked and acted like a dragon.
 :cookie:

True, just as criticisms about Kate do not make Sophie younger, prettier, more interesting, more genuine, and the next Princess of Wales.    :thumbsup:      

I never said they did.  Neither do I even think that.

I'm just bringing full circle your statement that criticizing Sophie wasn't going to make Kate look better with the other side of the coin that neither will criticizing Kate make Sophie look better.   Both women stand alone on their own  individual merits.   I fully agree with you.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 18, 2014, 11:21:49 pm
my comment was not towards you anabolena in case you felt it that way  :flower:

Now I've been a long royal watcher and many times I've seen one royal idolised while some other is considered the worst. I think that everyone has their good and bad points (even Kate  :tehe:) and I enjoy discussing all of them.




Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on October 19, 2014, 05:13:17 am
I was in a rush so made hasty replies, but I agree with both ^^   I shouldn't work and post lolol bignono


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on October 20, 2014, 08:03:52 pm
I think the press is comparing Waity and Soph because they look to be the same age. Waity looks decades older than Zara and the York sisters even though they are closer in age.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 21, 2014, 02:30:23 pm
I think the press is comparing Waity and Soph because they look to be the same age. Waity looks decades older than Zara and the York sisters even though they are closer in age.


I haven't seen the press compare Kate and Sophie, but there are numerous posters on several venues who believe the photoshopped photos of Sophie to be accurate and that she really looks younger than Kate in real life.    :laugh:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: HC on October 21, 2014, 07:18:33 pm
Sophie looks very average.

I dont know which profile she has made for herself ør which causes she is known for.

And I don't understand why she is not doing a normal career instead. She has the opportunity to have a normal life. If it is me I would escape and get a job.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kit on October 31, 2014, 03:10:30 pm
The only real difference between the 2 is that Sophie understands that she must sing for her supper.  HM appears to have greater work expectations for her children.  Chuck doesn't seem to have that same power over the lazy duo.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 31, 2014, 03:22:04 pm
^ LOL but very well said.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 31, 2014, 04:48:38 pm
The only real difference between the 2 is that Sophie understands that she must sing for her supper.  HM appears to have greater work expectations for her children.  Chuck doesn't seem to have that same power over the lazy duo.

Charles lost moral ground when he divorced his sons' mother and married his mistress.    So, if he tries to preach duty to the monarchy to them, they just have to point to Camilla and say, "Reallllllly?!?"        :bored:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on November 12, 2014, 03:49:47 pm
That is all well and good but the fact of the matter is that The Faker Kate is cut from a different cloth than Camilla. To wit, her ungodly low rent family and The Faker's ungodly, heinous behavior in all areas. This female is one disaster after another. An unending sh*t show.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 12, 2014, 05:01:56 pm
I do not agree with the way Princess Diana was treated, and I most certainly do not like camzilla.  But to be fair, chucky has always got on with it and done his duty, and marrying camzilla did not turn him into a lazy, bone idle good for nothing like wimpo, scream, shouting and wanting to sue everyone in sight who dared to take a photo he did not approve of.  I am not a fan of chucky, not one bit, but in my personal opinion losing moral ground did not change his nature from a full time working member of the rf into the person his son always appears to have been, but has become worse aided and abetted no doubt by the ghastly, greed, grasping, down market, sink estate  meddleton family.  I do not think he would have been completely different had he done the sensible thing and stayed away from them, but IMO they have definitely made him much, much worse.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on November 13, 2014, 11:28:47 am
You are so right GingerBoy. Chuck has carried on with his duties but Prince Punk Petulant has morphed into one hot, lazy, entitled brat of a mess since he aligned himself with all things Middleton. What a disaster.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 13, 2014, 03:49:53 pm
^^I agree with you both that Charles works hard and has been a dutiful Prince of Wales.   However, he ignored the advice of his mother the queen and all of the courtiers by marrying the divorced woman who was his mistress during his marriage.   

And now, despite the fact that most people agree that Camilla seems a good egg and all, there is a taint attached to her and Charles.  She doesn't dare use the "Princess of Wales"  and there continues to be debate about whether she should be called "Queen Consort".   There is talk Australia is hanging in with the Commonwealth only until after Her Majesty dies because they really don't respect Charles.

He undermined the throne.   He did what Edward VIII was not allowed to do.   Queen Mary is rolling over in her grave. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on November 13, 2014, 04:31:23 pm
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Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 08, 2014, 10:42:59 pm
Sophie has been able to develop a persona for herself of being the "perfect" royal wife, trotting along to her various engagements and connecting with people.

But doesn't the perfect royal wife show themselves to be interested mothers, engaged in their children's lives?   Elizabeth, The Queen Mother, was very present and engaged in Lilibet and Margaret's lives.  The present queen, while not as warm as her mother, was often photographed with her children at Balmoral, Sandingham, etc.  Diana, of course, was a famously hands-on, huggy mother.   Sarah, too, was very involved in her children's lives and photographed often with them [still is, in fact].   Anne was not tactile, but she was with her children at all the family functions and obviously was active in their lives.

Sophie seems strangely aloof from her children.   James rarely is seen with the family.  Louise more so since she was asked to be a part of the Cambridge wedding.  But if Sophie is so interested and connected and good with children, then where are the photos of her hugging and interacting with her kids?     ???



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on December 08, 2014, 11:09:29 pm
I don't think you can question how involved she is because we get no press about this at all. No photos doesn't mean she is not a good mother, simply that for whatever reason they are not choosing to use the kids for PR. In that sense what you say is true it is strange that Edward and her do not use photoogs to get more popular.

Maybe they had to agree with what Charles/Queen said about the future role of their children and so they are more hidden. This way they cannot used the way the York daughters are.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 09, 2014, 03:46:15 am
You put it perfectly:  ". . . we get no press about this at all."    I mean, how is it avoided?  Diana spent every minute she could with her children, and therefore their interactions were photographed.  Likewise every other member of the royal family.   We saw Peter, Zara, William, Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie grow up.   They weren't used for PR -- they were simply living their lives and they were photographed doing so.   

The future role of the Wessex chlldren has no bearing in their going about their lives as part of the Windsor family.  Peter and Zara don't have courtesy titles at all nor a royal role, and they have been quite prominent all their lives simply because they have been involved with the family.

I am sure that Ed and Sophie dearly love their children, but why don't they interact as a unit? The kids are old enough now that it is just strange.   :sob:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 26, 2014, 01:22:56 pm
So, the cracks in the myth of Sophie being a perfect royal wife get bigger:

1.   Remember how often we heard how much the queen loved Sophie so much that only Sophie was asked to ride in the car with her at appearances?  Well, Sophie hasn't ridden with Her Majesty since Christmas 2011 -- three years ago (and when Kate married in).    Did the Queen kick Sophie out of the car?  Or did Sophie tell the Queen to stuff it because she wanted to walk and have her photo taken?   

2.    If Sophie were a perfect royal wife, she should pay less attention to her clothes and hair and seeking out and grinning at the camera, and pay more attention to what her pre-teen daughter is wearing.   Louise is way too big and old to wear white tights and mary janes like a little girl.  Her coats tend to be too small for her or too big.  Sophie needs to spend less money on herself and a bit more on her daughter.   I think Sophie is going to be one of those mothers who feel threatened by their daughters growing up and becoming "competition".

3.    And James.  Again, James is left with the nanny on Christmas.  Why?   He is seven years old.   No longer a toddler.   Why does Sophie not want to let her son be a part of the family?  Very, very strange situation.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: terrajoule on December 26, 2014, 02:18:14 pm
Okay, where in the h3ll was/is James? Locked in the tower? Poor kid always hidden away like Colin in Secret Garden or like Miss Rochester in the attic or like the Humpback of Notre Dame or like Prince John. Kid have epilepsy, attention deficit or something? How Odd.   :-  ???


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on December 26, 2014, 04:41:16 pm
He comes out from time to time. Though I also find it strange that he is so little shown. But in any case the problem lies in both Sophie and her husband whatever the reason is.

She had a very difficult pregnancy with Louise and lost another but James had a normal childbirth and nothing has been talked about.

Maybe they are simply trying to be nice with Charles.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CarryingOn on December 26, 2014, 09:36:11 pm
I agree with Kit

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The only real difference between the 2 is that Sophie understands that she must sing for her supper.

Also, she like Kate doesn't have any competition so it's easy for her to be seen as such. I, for one, have never bought into her being the Queen's favorite. Some think that her tiaras are something to judge by but they're both so ugly, I don't see how the proper conclusion is that. Plus, I've always wondered why Diana didn't like her. Maybe she was just having a a moment(s) but I've always wondered if there was more to that story and definitely more to Sophie than meets the eye, the latter I'm sure there is.

At the end of the day though, she works, she upholds the image and image is everything.

As far as James, no he's not seen as much as Louise is but when he is brought out into the public sphere, he seems to do well. There have been no reports, murmurings, anything about him displaying any out of the ordinary behavior. You wonder if may be he just doesn't want to go on all of these outings and so his parents let him stay home. I will say that I'm not going to take her to task for not using Louise and James for PR, the way that Kate uses George for PR whenever she takes a nosedive time and time again.

As far as how the Wessex's avoid press, it's quite simple and easy. No one is interested in them or their children in the first place. Peter and Zara's children are also not that prominent. We only get pictures of them when they're at some horse event or another. Otherwise, we don't get pictures of them strolling through the park or going to the movies or any other daily life activities.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 27, 2014, 04:35:21 am
Diana didn't like Sophie because she saw her for the golddigger that she is.   She also was creeped out by the way Sophie was copying her and trying to look like her.  She supposedly would say, "Oh, here's my twin" whenever one of Sophie's photos would appear.  She was not amused by it.  Sarah also made comments to people about how Sophie was copying Diana and didn't think she was a nice person.

Re Sophie using her children for PR (like Kate, because it seems everything comes back to Kate), Sophie would use her children in a New York minute if she thought it would get her some press.     


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: meememe on December 27, 2014, 04:57:05 am
James was seen with his parents at the races a day or so before Christmas. He isn't being hidden - just not going to church with the family for Christmas yet. Louise didn't go to the Christmas service until she was 8 - 9 - so James could be seen next year.

I see nothing wrong with Louise's dress - she looks like what she is - a young girl - not yet a teenager, still at primary school.

Mary-Janes are the most commonly worn school shoes amongst the girls at my school well into their late teens (usually they stop wearing them in Year 11 aged 16 - 17) and some not even then. I also know many adults who wear them - they are some of the 'approved designs' for staff at my school where we must wear flat, enclosed shoes (part of our dress code - along with dresses or skirts and tops - not trousers). Kids, of course, have a mandatory school uniform and the girls uniform includes white tights until the end of the primary years - aged 12 with them optional for girls in Years 7 and 8 (first two years of High School).

Sophie is also the Patron of British Fashion - or something like that - and so she has to look good to promote their cause.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: cate1949 on December 27, 2014, 05:44:17 am
I think Louise looked fine this year -  last year her coat was too small and that did create an odd impression - but she looked perfect for her age this year in a well fitting coat.  I'd think James is old enough to go to church but obviously that is the parent's choice so perhaps we'll see him next year.

I have no particular feeling re: Sophie - she seems to represent the family well.  I think she should take more care with her hair but otherwise she seems fine.  I do not see her as either  a negative or some sort of paragon of royal virtue.  She does her job and appears to do it well.  No more no less.   


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 27, 2014, 06:01:46 am
http://theroyalpost.com/2011/12/15/the-walk-to-church-at-sandringham-on-christmas-day-diana/

Photos of a very young Zara (ages three and five) and William (age five) going to church with the family on Christmas.   Perhaps Anne and Diana were better royal mothers than Sophie and so had children who could behave in church?   


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: meememe on December 27, 2014, 09:45:42 am
Or maybe they weren't as good and exposed their children to the crowds way too early.

Edward and Sophie are deliberately trying to give their children a less public upbringing than royal children before them and there are people who get upset because they are doing so. I think their decision should be respected and it has nothing to do with who is the better parents but the fact that they are parenting differently.

By the way - why should it be that Anne or Diana are better or worse mothers than Sophie and not include the fathers?



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Ariel on December 27, 2014, 10:11:50 am
sorry, but I think that Sophie and Edward have made a very good decision to not turn their children from a very young age into attention seeking camera loving wanna be celebrities. MissH, you point out William and how cute it was to get him to church so early in life. and how did that turn out? He wants to mix with celebrities only and to be considered as a very important celebrity... without even moving a finger to work. how very kingly of him  :angry: or just look at Eugenie - who is a 24 years old grown woman but behaves like a 5-years old child when the cameras are not on her and pushes the in-laws so that she can get attention. As for Zara - she obviously had a very good parenting and turned out really well.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on December 27, 2014, 09:55:06 pm
I thought Sophie looked quite pretty on Xmas day.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 27, 2014, 10:17:52 pm
^Yes I did too.  I like Sophie. She is not perfect, but then who is, we all have our imperfections.  Ask me to choose between Sophie and wasty and hands down Sophie wins every time, in every way.   All wasty does is disgust me beyond belief with her common ways and her odious family.  Sophie´s family behave as royal in laws should, and apart from her obvious discretion years ago, which she has worked hard to put behind her, she has done the royal family proud.  Give me Sophie every time.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on December 27, 2014, 10:27:19 pm
Absolutely GingerBoy. Sophie has worked very, very hard. She's a great addition to the RF. Does them proud every time. Edward must be quite proud of her.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 28, 2014, 11:55:46 am
sorry, but I think that Sophie and Edward have made a very good decision to not turn their children from a very young age into attention seeking camera loving wanna be celebrities. MissH, you point out William and how cute it was to get him to church so early in life. and how did that turn out? He wants to mix with celebrities only and to be considered as a very important celebrity... without even moving a finger to work. how very kingly of him  :angry: or just look at Eugenie - who is a 24 years old grown woman but behaves like a 5-years old child when the cameras are not on her and pushes the in-laws so that she can get attention. As for Zara - she obviously had a very good parenting and turned out really well.

I didn't say it was "cute" for William to go to church as a young child, I simply pointed out that ALL the royal children with the exception of the Wessex children went to church with their families as young children and it is odd that the Wessexes do not want to take their son to church.

And are you saying that William and Eugenie turned out badly because they were taken to church at a young age but Zara (despite being taken to church at a young age) turned out well?   I'm failing to understand your point here?    :-


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 29, 2014, 05:20:32 am
I think HM likes Sophie because Sophie fanatically conforms, even to dressing daughter Louise like one of the creepy Village of the Damned children. Louise is too old for white tights and doll shoes and Sophie barely steps out of turn and likely enables Edward's delusions.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CarryingOn on December 29, 2014, 07:52:21 am
^ Exactly. Sings for her supper like Kit said. You have to wonder though how long she's going to keep that bit about dressing Louise up the way she does. Isn't the girl heading into her teens soon? It's just stupid now.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on December 29, 2014, 10:07:17 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2889445/New-role-slimline-Sophie-50-Countess-Wessex-tells-lessons-learnt-Queen-poses-series-photos-interviewed-ahead-birthday.html


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 29, 2014, 10:59:39 am
Agree, but I still think she is a vast improvement on wasty in every way.  Wasty also dresses sprog as though he has just fallen out of a 1950´s orphanage. What is it with the royals, is it meant to be trendy or something.  Don´t see others dressing their kids like ragamuffins do we.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 29, 2014, 12:16:03 pm
^ Evidently Sophie thinks that Kate is the improvement in the Royal Family and that is why she is so blatantly copying Kate's hair, clothes, shoes, facial expressions, photo ops.     :tehe:

And George is less than two years old, so it isn't strange for him to be dressed like a child.  Louise is 11 and can look her mother in the eye.  The little girl clothing choices are weird.     :-


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 29, 2014, 01:50:01 pm
^ Exactly. Sings for her supper like Kit said. You have to wonder though how long she's going to keep that bit about dressing Louise up the way she does. Isn't the girl heading into her teens soon? It's just stupid now.

I'll never understand WHY so many modern career successes end up being the most conformist royal wives; Sophie should be dressing her daughter in a way that healthily makes her like her peers, it is possible to be modern an appropriate. By dressing her daughter in an Edwardian way she's making her daughter conform to a way of life that is literally dying and of course, Louise needs to be groomed for a more practical way of life outside of the royal ring.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on December 29, 2014, 04:31:43 pm
HM has BILLIONS of dollars. When she goes to her reward all of her children and grandchildren will be well taken care of. None will have to work unless they choose to do so.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CarryingOn on December 29, 2014, 07:38:46 pm
^ Exactly. Sings for her supper like Kit said. You have to wonder though how long she's going to keep that bit about dressing Louise up the way she does. Isn't the girl heading into her teens soon? It's just stupid now.

I'll never understand WHY so many modern career successes end up being the most conformist royal wives; Sophie should be dressing her daughter in a way that healthily makes her like her peers, it is possible to be modern an appropriate. By dressing her daughter in an Edwardian way she's making her daughter conform to a way of life that is literally dying and of course, Louise needs to be groomed for a more practical way of life outside of the royal ring.

I don't understand it either. Times change, time moves forward and it's NOT coming back! I think that's another reason why I don't like he way Louise dresses. You can tell there's nothing authentic or loved about the way she dresses, it's just another way for Sophie to show her conformity. Same with George, no love and appreciation of the style of dress, just another way to draw parallels between the way William and Harry grew up dressing. Not to mention, although, Louise is plain too old to be dressing the way she does, there are so many designers that are doing a more modern version of traditional dress. There's a woman I follow on instagram who dresses her little girl (and boy) in a more traditional manner but it's lots of pretty prints and bright colors going on. Also very cute and bright colored Mary Janes http://www.gramfeed.com/allieroyall (http://www.gramfeed.com/allieroyall). I think the mother shows a real love of the style of dress.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on December 29, 2014, 08:19:24 pm
HM has BILLIONS of dollars. When she goes to her reward all of her children and grandchildren will be well taken care of. None will have to work unless they choose to do so.

Though that's true both Sophie and Edward tried working before failing hard and having to get money directly for the Queen.

They will never have problems with money but I'm sure they would have liked to be as independent as possible not having to deal with the Queen and then with Charles.

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For Queen and Country

Bazaar's Justine Picardie meets Sophie, Countess of Wessex for the February 2015 issue

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Those close to the Royal Family have observed that the Queen is very fond of Sophie Wessex; and the feeling is reciprocated (they share an interest in military history, and are often to be seen deep in conversation together). When I ask the Countess what she has learned from the Queen, her response is swift. ‘It doesn’t matter how tired you are – carry on. In the early days, I used to rush around as quickly as I could, but when you observe the Queen, she does things in such a measured way, and I hope I’ve learnt to try not to bounce into the room, but do things in a slightly more elegant way.’

http://www.harpersbazaar.co.uk/fashion/fashion-news/for-queen-and-country-sophie-countess-of-wessex-february-2015

BTW it also talks about her children in the article for those interested.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on December 29, 2014, 09:04:45 pm
I like Sophie.
There's a lot more to her then meets the eye.
She's intelligent and learns something new every day, then puts it to good use.
She is a hard worker and makes things happen-not necessarily glamorous things that sell ad in the papers.
Seems capable to deal with life lessons whether good or bad, not self absorbed and those are good qualities IMO.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: benign on December 29, 2014, 09:39:22 pm
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I don’t recommend that to anyone,’ she says quietly. ‘He was six weeks old, and we went through 24 hours of tests, which wasn’t much fun for him. Trying to fill 10 phials of blood from a tiny baby isn’t easy.’ Fortunately, the hospital was to diagnose the cause of his ill health as a milk intolerance, ‘and we were lucky because it was caught so early, he didn’t suffer any lasting effect... But some children aren’t so lucky, and by the time they end up in Great Ormond Street they are in a seriously bad way, and have to be fed via an intravenous method because their stomachs are so damaged’. Such is her gratitude to Great Ormond Street that she has proved to be a loyal fundraiser for the hospital and its research facilities.

- thanks Alexandrine. Was it ever reported her son was taken to the hospital after 6 weeks?  Good to see that she at least learned something and adapt to it.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 30, 2014, 12:25:17 am
I like Sophie.
There's a lot more to her then meets the eye.
She's intelligent and learns something new every day, then puts it to good use.
She is a hard worker and makes things happen-not necessarily glamorous things that sell ad in the papers.
Seems capable to deal with life lessons whether good or bad, not self absorbed and those are good qualities IMO.

Certainly as a result of her business success and her career, she has those traits. Yet she seems determined to throw that away on being as retroactively conformist as she can be. I think this is the only reason HM likes her.

^ Exactly. Sings for her supper like Kit said. You have to wonder though how long she's going to keep that bit about dressing Louise up the way she does. Isn't the girl heading into her teens soon? It's just stupid now.

I'll never understand WHY so many modern career successes end up being the most conformist royal wives; Sophie should be dressing her daughter in a way that healthily makes her like her peers, it is possible to be modern an appropriate. By dressing her daughter in an Edwardian way she's making her daughter conform to a way of life that is literally dying and of course, Louise needs to be groomed for a more practical way of life outside of the royal ring.
I don't understand it either. Times change, time moves forward and it's NOT coming back! I think that's another reason why I don't like he way Louise dresses. You can tell there's nothing authentic or loved about the way she dresses, it's just another way for Sophie to show her conformity. Same with George, no love and appreciation of the style of dress, just another way to draw parallels between the way William and Harry grew up dressing. Not to mention, although, Louise is plain too old to be dressing the way she does, there are so many designers that are doing a more modern version of traditional dress. There's a woman I follow on instagram who dresses her little girl (and boy) in a more traditional manner but it's lots of pretty prints and bright colors going on. Also very cute and bright colored Mary Janes http://www.gramfeed.com/allieroyall (http://www.gramfeed.com/allieroyall). I think the mother shows a real love of the style of dress.

Right; there are dozens and dozens of nice stuff, look at Modcloth or dozens of other retailers who have wonderful designs that are modern, chic, and still very modest. While HM has billions, will have billions to give away, it's not healthy to cut Louise off and groom her for a life in an Edwardian cocoon. William and Harry to me were just dressed nicely and I don't think the little Edwardian outfits were too bad as infants and toddlers, since the styles are practical and nice. It's just when it spills over past a certain age, that is when it becomes creepy and unhealthy. With her professional background I for one would have been dressing my kid in a nice long dress, long thermals, and sensible boots to keep the feet covered and warm.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Rosella on December 30, 2014, 01:48:51 am
I wonder whether the fact that Edward and Sohie are older parents has something to do with Louise's style of dress. After all, Sophie is just about fifty, Edward is already there. Sophie can probable remember wearing strap shoes, tights and long coats when she was Louise's age and so just automatically copies it, in a way a parent in their thirties or early forties probably wouldn't.

 I don't think Sophie does it deliberately, though there have been suggestions on blogs etc that she might be trying to keep Louise child-like for as long as possible, so she doesn't make Sophie look old.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: meememe on December 30, 2014, 02:15:42 am
Have any of you ever seen Louise's friends and how they dress? They may dress the same way.

Personally I see nothing wrong with the way she dresses - similar to the 11 - 12 year old girls I know.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 30, 2014, 02:34:17 am
Showing off her super-slim figure and, now, risking major controversy by praising the burka. As she turns 50...Is Sophie trying to *private body part* the limelight from Kate?


She was just another skier with two young children parking their equipment at the end of the day at the hire shop.

There was nothing to distinguish the Countess of Wessex and her children Lady Louise, 11, and James (Viscount Severn), seven, from any other family holidaying in Zermatt, Switzerland.

Surprisingly, for a senior royal, she hadn’t expected their police protection officers to carry the skis back to the shop for them. Even the children carried their own.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2890663/As-turns-50-Sophie-trying-*private body part*-limelight-Kate.html



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 30, 2014, 03:29:14 am
I do find it odd that Sophie is going on this sort of blitz.

Why the sudden need to promote herself has come up I don't know and I don't understand why Sophie is being so visible all of a sudden.

Have any of you ever seen Louise's friends and how they dress? They may dress the same way.

Personally I see nothing wrong with the way she dresses - similar to the 11 - 12 year old girls I know.

I might be wrong, but most kids aren't wearing clothes straight out of an Edwardian portrait.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 30, 2014, 04:57:52 am
I do find it odd that Sophie is going on this sort of blitz.

Why the sudden need to promote herself has come up I don't know and I don't understand why Sophie is being so visible all of a sudden.

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Indeed.  Wasn't Diana criticized for "outshining" HER husband, a royal prince?   And yet Sophie is going all out on an obvious, deliberate make-over to outshine not only royal princes, but their wives who are above her in the pecking order.    To what end?   What does she think she's going to get out of this?   The people will fall soooo in love with her beautiful, sexy 50-year old self that they'll make her queen?   It's ridiculous!   And why doesn't the queen put her in her place as she did Diana?    Why does Sophie get to do all this crazy stuff unchecked?   It's very odd. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Rosella on December 30, 2014, 05:53:14 am
I do find it odd that Sophie is going on this sort of blitz.

Why the sudden need to promote herself has come up I don't know and I don't understand why Sophie is being so visible all of a sudden.

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Indeed.  Wasn't Diana criticized for "outshining" HER husband, a royal prince?   And yet Sophie is going all out on an obvious, deliberate make-over to outshine not only royal princes, but their wives who are above her in the pecking order.    To what end?   What does she think she's going to get out of this?   The people will fall soooo in love with her beautiful, sexy 50-year old self that they'll make her queen?   It's ridiculous!   And why doesn't the queen put her in her place as she did Diana?    Why does Sophie get to do all this crazy stuff unchecked?   It's very odd. 

There are a few things going on there, probably. Edward, like Andrew doesn't like the idea of a slimmed down monarchy. That balcony appearance with just Charles, Camilla and his children standing beside the Queen was a shock to the siblings in my opinion.

Allied to that rather grim future as far as the Wessexes are concerned, is that younger members of the Royals are squeezing out the older ones as far as media coverage is concerned. Even Charles complains that his charities aren't getting the publicity they deserve. How much more so for Sophie who is down the pecking order and is not getting very much media oxygen at her public engagements?

Sophie can see the writing on the wall. Her status as a favoured daughter in law of the Queen isn't going to mean squat after the aged monarch is dead and a new reign has begun. IMO Sophie is getting a bit of public notice while she can. It's likely to be sparse in future years.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Val on December 30, 2014, 08:28:38 am
The RF are behind the promotion of Sophie as a much more suitable representative than Kate who has constantly embarrassed them with her inadequacies and frequent flashing of body parts (not to mention her pushy social climbing family).  A response to the Burka article says much about public feeling too.


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AND she knows how to talk and act in public, she smiles and she doesn't make a grimace instead of a smile, no fiddling with too long locks, no heavy handed make up and too short skirts, she is extremely pretty and it would be better not to make a comparison as Sophie Wessex is miles ahead of Kate Cambridge. Also we have never seen her parents elbowing their way into the royal circle.
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Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on December 30, 2014, 10:25:49 am
At least the public can now see what a working royal actually does (as opposed to Wasty).
About Louise's Christmas outfit; maybe Louise wants to wear white stockings because she feels that's the festive and Christmassy thing to do.
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000CqbqhU1EgL0/s/650/650/NEWSPIX1181104-Lady-Louise.jpg
Louise has plenty of nice clothes and boots.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 30, 2014, 10:51:06 am
I like Sophie and think she is far superior to wasty in every area.  As far as it goes, for me wasty has not even hit the starting block yet, and doesn´t look likely to, ever, an d she has that vile family of hers to drag along everywhere, gives me the impression she can´t function without ma pushing her buttons.   Sophie is much more her own woman.

Some lovely photos of her on here

http://princessmonarchy.eklablog.com/nouveau-portrait-de-la-comtesse-sophie-de-wessex-dans-le-domaine-de-su-a114105260


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on December 30, 2014, 11:09:15 am
 :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Freya on December 30, 2014, 11:12:08 am
^^
I agree. Sophie is much more  soft and natural looking than Kate who has a hard look. Kate looks as if she is acting out a part and not comfortable in the role.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on December 30, 2014, 11:22:17 am
Sophie at 49 isn't using botox and fillers like wasty.
Why should she have to wipe out the few mimic lines that she has?
Sophie's skin is way better than Wasty's- no muscle atrophy from botox, no horrible leathery orange skin with neglected clogged up pores.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on December 30, 2014, 12:13:33 pm
All in all, I would say if you had to compare Sophie's competence as a representative of the RF to that of WK, there is no competition. Sophie wins hands down. WK is a loser in all areas and in all arenas. WK has only been successful in snagging the idiot prince. And that is it.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 30, 2014, 01:38:25 pm
^ Nothing to add to that India, just about sums it all up for a lot of us.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Val on December 30, 2014, 01:48:10 pm
The RF are actively promoting Sophie as a representative as they have accepted that Kate is totally incompetent and unsuitable for the role.  Too much flashing, no conversational skills, gurning, open mouthed grinning, inappropriate dress, hand flapping, head nodding and more.  No amount of desperate PR can help Kate either.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on December 30, 2014, 02:31:46 pm
Totally agree.
The monarchy is sinking with only Aging Adulterer Chuck, the Wrinkly Homewrecker, Barbie and Baldie- and Harry to pick up everyone's pieces.
Chuck IMO should not go ahead with the mini monarchy.
He needs his brothers, sister and sister in law to help him with the daily workload.
The York girls would also improve the image of the RF IMO.
He should give them some tasks-they are charming and seem to enjoy it.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 30, 2014, 05:51:19 pm
Sophie at 49 isn't using botox and fillers like wasty.
Why should she have to wipe out the few mimic lines that she has?
Sophie's skin is way better than Wasty's- no muscle atrophy from botox, no horrible leathery orange skin with neglected clogged up pores.

She doesn't have to when the media is photoshopping her to death.    The Harpers Bazaar photos are like oil paintings they are so photoshopped.    :bored:     :cookie:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 30, 2014, 07:32:50 pm
I'm kind of mixed up with Sophie.

She needs to dress and raise her daughter to fit in with her peers and be less Edwardian. I think she's only HM's favorite since Sophie is such a doormat. I do think that she's failed to break new ground, so she hasn't really done anything that would cause her to be more in-depth.

As for the positives, she does keep her life and business from becoming a mess. It's easy since she's married to a minor prince, not a major one.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on December 30, 2014, 09:22:38 pm
Sophie will be 50 in a couple of weeks so there's bound to be some publicity.
Sophie's make over IMO has nothing to do with Wasty, with whom she has little to nothing to do.
Personally I think that Sophie knows she HAS to remain fit, alert and receptive if she wants to raise her kids right.
She fell pregnant aged 42 and has a boy at home who just turned 7 and probably still believes in Santa.
For the next 10-15 years she and Edward have to toe the line, so no comfortably slipping into middle age for them I'm afraid. :tehe:
They have work to do, both for the RF as for their family.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on December 30, 2014, 09:29:49 pm
^ Very much agree, Stephanie.  Besides which, nothing she wears looks like Waity Wear at all.

http://www.harpersbazaar.co.uk/fashion/fashion-news/for-queen-and-country-sophie-countess-of-wessex-february-2015

Many women do a 'new me' makeover at 30 40 50 60 etc.  I have a sister 16 years older than me and she's more with it since she turned 50 not that long ago.  It's not unusual or uncommon.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 30, 2014, 09:37:08 pm
I think she is doing well for 50, I would think many women would be happy to look like her at 50.  As you say Stephanie, she still has a 7 year old to contend with, and Lady Louise is 11, teenage years to weather yet.  I think a lot of the royals are heavily photoshopped, camzilla being the one they appear to work on the most, after wasty of course, they photoshop her up to the hilt.  I think I saw a piccie of camzilla recently, obviously unphotoshopped, jeepers, enough to frighten the life out of you.  Must see if I can find it again and will post, the difference is so amazing, it made me realise just how much photoshopping they do on her.  Photos of wasty unphotoshopped are dreaful, all those wrinkles, forehead lines, pock marks, large pores in her skin, lots of fluffy facial hair  -  all that gets photoshopped out,

Will look for the camzilla photo, it really is a huge surprise.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on December 30, 2014, 09:47:32 pm
^I want to see that, please post!


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 30, 2014, 10:08:03 pm
Will put them in members only section, not fair otherwise.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on December 30, 2014, 10:13:54 pm
^ ???


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 30, 2014, 10:19:43 pm
^Sent you a pm but your inbox full.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on December 30, 2014, 10:26:14 pm
try now ?


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 30, 2014, 11:06:10 pm
Weird, thought I just posted this.  Miss Hathaway gave me a link to a DM article with the same piccies in it.  My response to MH and the piccie links.

Thank you very much, yes.  These are the two

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/03/1415019385422_Image_galleryImage_HIDALGO_MEXICO_NOVEMBER_0.JPG

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/03/1415019424592_Image_galleryImage_HIDALGO_MEXICO_NOVEMBER_0.JPG

I did not want to put them on here as I saw them on Getty Images and I was not sure about copyright etc, but as these are from the DM it is not a problem.  I have not seen that DM article before, will go back and have a read.

Thanks again.

Mods can you remove the piccies from the Photoshopping thread I made in Members Only please.  Many thanks, and sorry for causing you inconvenience, I was being cautious on the copyright front..    thankyou


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on December 30, 2014, 11:09:34 pm
^ moved it to the other thread already


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 30, 2014, 11:22:30 pm
Thank you very much  :flower:


Title: Re: Sophie Countess of Wessex has six pages of Charities & Royal patronages
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 31, 2014, 12:36:52 am
Sophie kind of epistomizes a modern career woman marrying in and suddenly ending up completely conformist, moreso than most born to the background. So weird; Diana and Sarah (Fergie) had huge dallops of Stuart lineage and dressed a lot more modern and a lot more daring, dressing their kids as normally as possible.

it was that she went to dinner and name dropped Royalty ,she discussed her royal opinions and she discussed political things and mentioned royals, but that was all she did, she gossiped about royals which was a no, no......because it was viewed as using royals to impress the client, but she didn't do more than that.

She said the Queen(Mother's) an old dear

She said Charles and Camilla were two of the most unpopular people

She said Blair was too presidential and ruining the countryside

She didn't say anything mean about Princess Diana, that was totally made up ,by NOTW

Sophie went to a very public lunch or dinner with a client who pretended to be a sheik. She started chitcatting about royalty and private things at a lunch-dinner ,  some felt it was to impress the client, but she never did more than sit and talk, nothing more. It was not some sneaky backroom deal like Sarah. Sophie just basically was gossiping too much.

The sheik was the dishonest person in that meeting, not Sophie, she truly thought the guy came to her PR company for pr, she was doing what she always did, taking a client to lunch, but she did gossip too much, she should  never have been discussing the royals even if it was a comment like the Queen's an old dear, the press blew it all up to be way more.

Sophie should have done a check on the potential client and made sure the sheik was real.

For a successful businesswoman, she made a huge mistake there. I'm surprised, it's like the business brain she had suddenly went out the window after marriage.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 31, 2014, 02:02:32 am
Ah, but Sophie was never a successful businesswoman in her own right.  That is just one of the many myths that floats around Sophie.   She worked for a PR company and then, after becoming the queen's son's girlfriend and making some connections, she started her own company.  Word was she wasn't that good.  She was greedy and opportunistic, and it was her downfall.   The undercover journalist never intended to talk to Sophie, he was just sniffing around Harkin because he had heard Sophie was flouting her royal status.  It was SOPHIE herself who showed up to talk to the guy himself thinking she could land a fat account.  And she made promises -- as did Harkin -- about her royal connections which was a big no-no.  And so she was busted.

She tried to keep the company going even after she supposedly "retired" but it went bankrupt because the only thing the company had going for it was the royal connection.  There were much better PR firms out there.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: cate1949 on December 31, 2014, 02:53:14 am
Gingerboy - Camilla looks about to cry in those photos - when were they taken?  If you know please.

The pics of Sophie in the magazine article just go to show how much better she could look if she did her hair properly - not a big deal to blow it out with a bit of gel and style it - she looks so much better with her hair fussed over a bit.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on December 31, 2014, 10:36:15 am
O my gaaawd GB!
Campon has a white moustache and a small beard! :ick: :ick:
Guess who doesn't get kissed anymore..


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 31, 2014, 03:05:06 pm
Gingerboy - Camilla looks about to cry in those photos - when were they taken?  If you know please.

The pics of Sophie in the magazine article just go to show how much better she could look if she did her hair properly - not a big deal to blow it out with a bit of gel and style it - she looks so much better with her hair fussed over a bit.

Mexico, and was allegedly laughing! 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 31, 2014, 03:41:43 pm
Ah, but Sophie was never a successful businesswoman in her own right.  That is just one of the many myths that floats around Sophie.   She worked for a PR company and then, after becoming the queen's son's girlfriend and making some connections, she started her own company.  Word was she wasn't that good.  She was greedy and opportunistic, and it was her downfall.   The undercover journalist never intended to talk to Sophie, he was just sniffing around Harkin because he had heard Sophie was flouting her royal status.  It was SOPHIE herself who showed up to talk to the guy himself thinking she could land a fat account.  And she made promises -- as did Harkin -- about her royal connections which was a big no-no.  And so she was busted.

She tried to keep the company going even after she supposedly "retired" but it went bankrupt because the only thing the company had going for it was the royal connection.  There were much better PR firms out there.

Another round of hype to benefit the BRF.

They can't just have a smart businesswoman, they have to have a SUCCESSFUL business owning woman who is SO honored to be in the BRF she willingly gave it ALL up for LURVE! Would explain why HM favors her, Sophie played along with the hype and the lies.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 31, 2014, 04:01:24 pm
^ Yep.  And lets not forgot that by marrying Ed, Sophie helped dampen the stories that he was gay.    Liz and Phil would have been thrilled with any woman who was willing to marry him.  It wasn't like they were all lined up to date him.   :June:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on December 31, 2014, 04:31:32 pm
Gay- I don't think so.
Unlike Chuck he didn't wait for the line ups but pursued someone.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 31, 2014, 04:41:04 pm
The royals didn´t start letting the low-lifes in until campon and wasty, now it seems they let any old tramp in no matter what.  At least eh had the savvy to choose his own bride, unlike chucky, and they are still together, credit where it is due.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on December 31, 2014, 04:42:45 pm
And actually sharing a home and a life unlike W and W.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 31, 2014, 04:44:48 pm
Frankly you can´t compare the two really can you .  wasty is the common old cod roe from Asda  to Sophie´s luxury caviar from Fortnum and Mason  -  and boy does it show in every photo.  Sophie has more class in her little finger than wasty will ever have.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 31, 2014, 05:12:59 pm
Yeah, throwing a temper tantum on the sidewalk and yelling at an employee is Klassy!    :snob:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380021/Royal-Wedding-2011-Countess-Wessex-wearing-Bruce-Oldfield.html



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on December 31, 2014, 05:29:03 pm
One word for Sophie's outburst of apparent anger and then apparent tears 'PERIMENOPAUSE'.  Poor Sophie - no break for even having a hormonal meltdown.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 31, 2014, 06:05:46 pm
Yelling at a security officer is to me bad bad bad bad bad bad form.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on December 31, 2014, 06:25:32 pm
^ Totally agree KF - as is yelling at anyone, but I give ppl breaks when hormonal.  Coming from a huge family if sisters who all were well educated I've seen it all.  Hormones aren't completely controllable ALL the time especially in pre and peri meno, which Sophie would be.  No, it's not good, not elegant or classy, but so what - she's human- she doesn't do it every day, at least not in public.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 31, 2014, 07:08:55 pm
Maybe.  I'd put it down to JEALOUSY myself.     :hi:

In any event, the old girl is touted to be the Model of Royalty and her screeching like a fishwife on the sidewalk at an employee who cannot talk back is low class.  And not what the queen (her teacher) would do.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 31, 2014, 08:19:18 pm
I do think that yelling at a security officer is the lowest of the low. If a member of congress or member of the First Family were videotaped/photographed screaming and pointing at a US Secret Service agent, it would incinerate their poll ratings and likely trigger the Congress to issue a censure. Sophie has no excuse not to handle her stress in a more adult manner. Zero excuse really. She could take pills to relax her or indulge in some stress reduction exercise, not mouth off to a security officer.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on January 01, 2015, 07:24:38 pm
MH - but jealous of what?


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Freya on January 02, 2015, 02:25:59 am
I like Sophie but a member of the RF is a public representative and shouting at a security officer is not good form. If she had been an MP she would have been in big bother. Royals do seem to get away with a lot in comparison with elected representatives.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 02, 2015, 02:57:59 am
Maybe.  I'd put it down to JEALOUSY myself.     :hi:

In any event, the old girl is touted to be the Model of Royalty and her screeching like a fishwife on the sidewalk at an employee who cannot talk back is low class.  And not what the queen (her teacher) would do.
MH - but jealous of what?

I think Sophie has treasured her role as HM's favorite, the youngest of the royal consorts, and felt threatened by Kate coming into the RF, disliked the idea of no longer being the most 'modern' of the consorts and there was likely yelling and screaming around the palaces for weeks after the announcement.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on January 02, 2015, 03:39:15 am
^ KF if that's the case, I wish Sophie would Google Waity a while back.  She's been nothing but a glorified mistress for a decade pre-marriage, a non starter in the work force EVER and has hardly been seen looking decent pre-marriage.  I'd have thought of her as a tart! Sophie is so silly to be jealous of such a social climbing,cheap overrated piece of lack of work. 

Message to Sophie!!!!  :flower:

Shaking my head Sophie.  You're better than that wastrel any day. Get with the program and wake up to Waity.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on January 02, 2015, 03:10:40 pm
^Heartily agree.  Sophie or wasty - hmmm, let me see, nope, no thought needed, Sophie every time.  More class in her little finger than wasty has in the whole of her emaciated body.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on January 02, 2015, 06:28:24 pm
^  :thumbsup: GB - one would have to be actively wanting to discredit Sophie to say otherwise in light of Waity's actions.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 02, 2015, 06:52:24 pm
Maybe.  I'd put it down to JEALOUSY myself.     :hi:

In any event, the old girl is touted to be the Model of Royalty and her screeching like a fishwife on the sidewalk at an employee who cannot talk back is low class.  And not what the queen (her teacher) would do.
MH - but jealous of what?

I think Sophie has treasured her role as HM's favorite, the youngest of the royal consorts, and felt threatened by Kate coming into the RF, disliked the idea of no longer being the most 'modern' of the consorts and there was likely yelling and screaming around the palaces for weeks after the announcement.

Yes, this is what I think.  And her actions since then only reinforce this belief.  Her copying Kate is downright creepy and I hope someone talks to her about getting help/stopping it.

Frankly, neither Kate nor Sophie are exactly what one thinks of when thinking of "class".    :bored:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 10, 2015, 03:27:48 pm
Quote
Sophie and Edward like to be around their children. It is easily apparent that they enjoy them. No complaining about them. Quite refreshing.

It is clear that they do not enjoy being around their son because he's rarely with them.  No huggy, smiley photos with them.  If Sophie were really a perfect royal wife, she'd fix this and start appearing with James.  He's seven.  He's way old enough.  It's odd that they have never taken him to church on Christmas.  Wonder why?   :cookie:


Title: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 21, 2015, 08:41:43 pm
Every royal figure has myths and legends surrounding them, and Sophie Wessex is no different.  The same stories keep circulating around her, and no one bothers to set them straight.  This article, for instance, repeats the same stuff about Sophie that isn't accurate:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/11352032/Sophie-Wessex-at-50-a-countess-the-Queen-can-rely-on.html

For instance:   . . . . gradually the Earl and Countess of Wessex became more absorbed in royal duties.

Actually, the Earl's business (Ardent) was becoming an embarrassment and the Countess of Wessex's greediness led her to trying to land a rich "sheikh's" account by offering him access to the royal persona.  Thus, they were given an ultimatum -- business or royal life.  They quickly chose royal lives and so work had to be created for them.  

And:  The Countess closed down her company in 2002, the same year as the Queen’s Golden Jubilee.

Sophie -- contrary to her assurances to the queen -- continued her involvement with the company.   It didn't close down (due to bankruptcy) for another seven years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1200621/Sophie-Wessex-1-7m-business-debt--won-t-pay.html

And:  It soon became clear that the Countess was never going to upstage the Queen or her husband in the way that Diana, Princess of Wales had done

The author makes it sound as though this became clear AFTER Sophie had to leave her company and become a working royal.  In fact, this was what the queen noticed when Sophie first started dating Edward.   "You wouldn't notice her in a crowd" the queen told Margaret.  They were thrilled that she did not have the charisma of Diana.

And:  nor did she have any of the perceived extravagances of the Duchess of York.

This isn't completely true.  Sophie lives in the largest of the private homes of all the royals.   And she bankrupted her company.   She's not so very different from Sarah York in that respect.  The difference is that the queen has bankrolled her.

And:  Indeed, she has a close relationship with the Queen. She has often been seen leaving church in the car with Her Majesty, while other members of the Royal family walk.

The car riding was true up until December 2011.  That was the last time Sophie rode in the car with the Queen at one of the family get togethers.    After that she has walked with everyone else, clearly enjoying the camera.

And:  Over time, the Wessexes have taken on an enormous number of royal engagements, and these do not always appear to be the most glamorous ones.

I think the author has this confused with Princess Anne.  She takes on an enormous number of not-so-glamorous engagements.  The Wessexes are the ones who can be found dressing up in gowns and tiaras for weddings.

And:  puts aside time for her children. She collects them from school and they often ride together, frequently with the Queen.

This may have been true in the past, but I think the Queen's riding days are increasingly behind her.   And Sophie being a rider is more myth than fact, it would seem.  I think she is much more into taking her children to riding lessons these days.

And:  Over the years, there have been members of the Royal family who have quietly gone about such business and duties. The Countess of Wessex is in the mould of Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester and Princess Alexandra, who, in their different, quiet ways, never failed to support the monarch of the day. Such dedication does not attract daily headlines, and nor should it.


Actually, Sophie is not at all quiet while going about her duties, as were Princesses Alice and Alexandra.   Sophie's having been the second lady in the land when she first married in seems to have gone to her head, and she is not gracefully ceding that position.  There have been a spate of articles about Sophie since Charles and William have married and pushed her down the line.   Put "Sophie Wessex" in the google news search and you will see story after story of "Royal mother-of-two dazzles on Spanish beach"; "Countess of Wessex: the Royal Family's latest style icon?"; "The only way is Wessex: How stylish Sophie has transformed into a real jewel in the crown"; "Sophie Wessex: The unsung star of the Royal Family"; "Sophie at 50: the Queen's quiet favorite".  And on and on.

Now put in "Princess Anne" in the google news search and you find fewer, very matter of fact headlines, despite the fact that Anne works much more than Sophie.

It's pretty obvious that Sophie has a pr person to place stories to raise her profile.  Sophie would know how to work this since she was a pr person herself.   There's nothing wrong with this, but it puts paid the myth that Sophie is "quietly" and "unassumingly" going about her duties.  She intends to get as much press out of her position as she can.

 :flirt:








Title: Re: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: india on January 21, 2015, 09:05:14 pm
At the present time, Sophie is not an embarrassment like the bloated Potato Head Stalker. She knows how to act as a proper representative of the RF. She does them proud. She is not constantly exposing herself or pressing her crotch. She does not gurn, twirl her hair, make weird facial expressions or make stupid remarks. And finally, she lives with her husband.....not with her Mama and Dada.


Title: Re: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: Rebecca on January 22, 2015, 02:35:14 am
^Excellent post.  :flower:


Title: Re: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: HennyPenny on January 22, 2015, 03:32:49 am
Miss Hathaway -  When its comes to a Sophie  Post I always look for you response. You make me laugh so hard sometime I know my neighbors think I am losing my mind... Keep up the good work!!!!! :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: AnaBolena on January 22, 2015, 01:26:02 pm
^ True, I get a good laugh too.  Never seen such obsession over someone who is as low down the royal list as Sophie.  The obsessive component is so creepy it's laughable.  :laugh: :tehe: :P


Title: Re: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: Little light on January 22, 2015, 01:30:19 pm
re Miss Hathaway's post.

Maybe this is why Sophie tries to copy WK, her messy hairstyle etc etc. She's probably hoping some of the tabloid glitter that Waity gets will rub off on her too, raising her profile.

And if i wanted a patron of the charity and had to choose between WK and Sophie, I'd rather have Sophie for all her faults. 


Title: Re: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 22, 2015, 03:51:27 pm
Miss Hathaway -  When its comes to a Sophie  Post I always look for you response. You make me laugh so hard sometime I know my neighbors think I am losing my mind... Keep up the good work!!!!! :thumbsup:

Ah, HennyPenny, you get it!   Yes, Sophie is a great source of amusement for royal watchers if they cut through the myths and legends that have been placed around her.   I'm doing my bit to point these out and have some fun along the way! 

 :thankyou:


Title: Re: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: CathyJane on January 22, 2015, 08:39:23 pm
At the present time, Sophie is not an embarrassment like the bloated Potato Head Stalker. She knows how to act as a proper representative of the RF. She does them proud. She is not constantly exposing herself or pressing her crotch. She does not gurn, twirl her hair, make weird facial expressions or make stupid remarks. And finally, she lives with her husband.....not with her Mama and Dada.


 :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 05, 2015, 07:41:33 pm
No matter what, there's something about Sophie that keeps unsettling me. She obviously is so determined to kiss up to the Queen and it's kind of an insult that she only got a pieced together tiara, not a normal one of her own. She still got jewels from Saudis, but thing is, she's incredibly pathetic.

Maybe this is why Sophie tries to copy WK, her messy hairstyle etc etc. She's probably hoping some of the tabloid glitter that Waity gets will rub off on her too, raising her profile.

Exactly; Sophie needs to get it into her head that she's no longer the youngest of the royal wives and needs to stop with the coy passive aggressiveness. She's not an ingenue (never was when she was living with Edward before marriage) and frankly needs to stop marketing herself. It irritates me when mothers act so childish and frankly, not being an embarrassment is very normal for many adult women. She's not a kid and she's not unused to press attention.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 06, 2015, 05:30:28 pm
^ You have described Sophie to a tee, KF.    She is indeed an accomplished kiss up.  She was never an equestrianne and I sincerely doubt when she was growing up in her village that military history was on her mind, yet she honed in on the Queen's weaknesses and used them to gain a toe hold.  I am disappointed in the queen . . .

And you're exactly right about her passive aggressive ingenue tact.  The woman was 34 when she married and been around a few blocks.  But she has persisted in pretending that she was a 19-year-old virgin bride like Diana.  Even now she is not moving into her own as a mature 50-year-old and persists with the cutsey short skirts, jeggings, cleavage, and pony tails, always with an eye out on how to get the camera on her.    :-


Title: Re: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: CarryingOn on March 07, 2015, 02:17:27 am
No matter what, there's something about Sophie that keeps unsettling me. She obviously is so determined to kiss up to the Queen and it's kind of an insult that she only got a pieced together tiara, not a normal one of her own. She still got jewels from Saudis, but thing is, she's incredibly pathetic.

Maybe this is why Sophie tries to copy WK, her messy hairstyle etc etc. She's probably hoping some of the tabloid glitter that Waity gets will rub off on her too, raising her profile.

Exactly; Sophie needs to get it into her head that she's no longer the youngest of the royal wives and needs to stop with the coy passive aggressiveness. She's not an ingenue (never was when she was living with Edward before marriage) and frankly needs to stop marketing herself. It irritates me when mothers act so childish and frankly, not being an embarrassment is very normal for many adult women. She's not a kid and she's not unused to press attention.

Same here and I think it's the kiss a$$ thing too and that she does come across as highly pathetic.

I was so damn incredulous when I finally saw that damn tiara! I couldn't believe it! Every time I turned around I read someone talking about how the Queen likes Sophie because she gave a tiara. When I finally saw the thing, all I could think was damn if that were me I'd rather be hated for all eternity by that old woman. It's so ugly and it looks extremely cheap and so do the other ones she's been allowed to wear. The way people were going on you'd think she was wearing something equivalent to the one the Queen gave Diana or the Spencer Tiara. Talk about #disappointed.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 07, 2015, 03:54:21 am
That piecemeal tiara, I think this is something that royals and aristocrats do to those who marry in without a family tiara of their own. It was such a slap in the face that I think Sophie should have walked rather than be treated like this. Look at how Kate was given a little coronet and asked to give it back after the ceremony. I would have been offended by such a small thing and she's STILL not wearing anything too massive. I don't think she likes it.

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^ You have described Sophie to a tee, KF.    She is indeed an accomplished kiss up.  She was never an equestrianne and I sincerely doubt when she was growing up in her village that military history was on her mind, yet she honed in on the Queen's weaknesses and used them to gain a toe hold.  I am disappointed in the queen . . .

HM is not and never has been a good judge of character; HM should have seen the red flags when Sophie wanted to move into the palace, essentially mooching. When she picked at her security officer, all bets were off to me. NO ONE has any right to pick at their security officer.

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And you're exactly right about her passive aggressive ingenue tact.  The woman was 34 when she married and been around a few blocks.  But she has persisted in pretending that she was a 19-year-old virgin bride like Diana.  Even now she is not moving into her own as a mature 50-year-old and persists with the cutsey short skirts, jeggings, cleavage, and pony tails, always with an eye out on how to get the camera on her.    :-

At the Luxembourg wedding, she looked disgraceful; too tight dress, fascinator tack hat, and of course, grinned like she was at a premiere. She looked nice at the banquet, but horrendous on the actual wedding day. She is too old to be clueless about how to dress and needs to stop acting like some newbie.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Val on March 07, 2015, 08:09:42 am
Many never never felt right about her since the Arab scam, what she said about members of the RF then, the disrespect she showed them and how she tried  to use her RF connections to promote her own business.   It is thought by those close that the reason QE accepted her is that she 'rescued' Edward's reputation, gave him a family and a sort of air of respectability.  Many however still think that she revealed her true colours in the early days also that QE has a very poor sense of character judgement.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on March 07, 2015, 03:26:40 pm
All of the above is true. But that was in the beginning and as the years went by, she put in tremendous effort to rectify her mistakes. Some members say, that she likes to copy The Stalking Flashing Waiter and to suck up to the Queen. Maybe true. But there is one glaring truth about the Countess of Wessex: her children are hers and Edward's. There is no question of their parentage and no question of the usage of a surrogate. And to top it off, Lady Louise is the spitting image of The Queen.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 07, 2015, 03:58:55 pm
Many never never felt right about her since the Arab scam, what she said about members of the RF then, the disrespect she showed them and how she tried  to use her RF connections to promote her own business.   It is thought by those close that the reason QE accepted her is that she 'rescued' Edward's reputation, gave him a family and a sort of air of respectability.  Many however still think that she revealed her true colours in the early days also that QE has a very poor sense of character judgement.

All the highlighted are completely true; thing is, Edward got upset about being accused of being gay (not that there's anything wrong with that) and Sophie came along at the right time and wormed her way in. The Arab scam, she could have done her research about the client and she would have avoided a lot of humiliation.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 07, 2015, 06:54:48 pm
^  Yes, the undercover reporter could have been sniffed out easily had Sophie been as smart as some people make her out to be.  But she is greedy and saw dollar signs and invited herself to lunch with the guy [it was her idea, not his], and thought to dazzle him with insider stories.

I doubt very much that she learned from that experience, and as soon as the queen's protection ceases, Sophie will land in the suds again.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 07, 2015, 09:56:01 pm
Many never never felt right about her since the Arab scam, what she said about members of the RF then, the disrespect she showed them and how she tried  to use her RF connections to promote her own business.   It is thought by those close that the reason QE accepted her is that she 'rescued' Edward's reputation, gave him a family and a sort of air of respectability.  Many however still think that she revealed her true colours in the early days also that QE has a very poor sense of character judgement.

your analysis is spot on. I can see that she is innocuous right now, but after the arab scam she is nearly on the same level as Fergie. Then there is also the try hard vibes she emits.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 08, 2015, 01:17:01 am
She's innocuous because she should be; her husband is lower in the line of succession now and she had no business trying to launch herself as a star. Just be a good wife and be happy and go about your appearances and business.

^  Yes, the undercover reporter could have been sniffed out easily had Sophie been as smart as some people make her out to be.  But she is greedy and saw dollar signs and invited herself to lunch with the guy [it was her idea, not his], and thought to dazzle him with insider stories.

I doubt very much that she learned from that experience, and as soon as the queen's protection ceases, Sophie will land in the suds again.

This is the problem with people like Sophie; they don't do their research and don't think to hire someone to find out, which makes me wonder about her vaunted successful business background. She was way too stupid and reckless. If it had not been a spy, but a terrorist, just think of the damage that could be done. I wonder how different things will be once HM is gone, what with how Sophie is HM's favorite (I don't think it's because Sophie tries to be normal) and I think Charles will cut Edward and Sophie's perks down.


Title: Re: Sophie Wessex - Myths and Legends
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 08, 2015, 02:19:14 pm
And another Myth and Legend about Sophie is that she is so good with children and such a loving mother.    Yet Easter Sunday shows that her son is left out of the family function again, and her daughter is dressed dreadfully.   Another Sophie Myth bites the dust . . . .  kisss


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Countess of Holland on April 12, 2015, 07:19:20 pm
The Wessex-couple took both their children with her on a visit to the Ubunye Foundation. The Foundation, of which Sophie is patron, helps rural communities in South Africa to be more self-reliant.

As it is Easter Holiday in England, the visit didn't clash with the school of the children.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/569863/Lady-Louise-James-accompany-Countess-Wessex-Ubunye-Foundation-visit-South-Africa


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 12, 2015, 11:33:38 pm
So, James can't go to church with his family on Christmas or Easter but he can go on an official engagement with Sophie in South Africa?   Isn't this a parallel to George who was paraded around New Zealand and Australia but never seen in Great Britain?   What's up with these royal kids?

And, Sophie always looks stressed when she is with James.   Look at her face.  It's like, go away, kid, can't you see I'm in the middle of a photo op?      :-

And why are the Wessexes working in South Africa?  Isn't that Wales territory?   


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: kolkomilko on April 13, 2015, 06:51:59 am
Whatever her reason for staying James away from the public, that's improper.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on April 22, 2015, 05:06:27 pm
Is it possible that he has mild autism or sensory disorders?  My sister has a child with sensory issues and this little girl hates the sounds of the outside world and will literally have a meltdown if she's made to go out.  My sister, needless to say, feels very stressed at her daughters distress.

I'm not sure what is in the Windsor bloodline and forget what John had.  Autism or Epilepsy?


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on April 22, 2015, 05:09:05 pm
Epilepsy


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Rosella on April 22, 2015, 05:53:32 pm
Is it possible that he has mild autism or sensory disorders?  My sister has a child with sensory issues and this little girl hates the sounds of the outside world and will literally have a meltdown if she's made to go out.  My sister, needless to say, feels very stressed at her daughters distress.

I'm not sure what is in the Windsor bloodline and forget what John had.  Autism or Epilepsy?

I think John was believed to have both conditions, (not that people knew much about autism in the early 1900's). I've read that his epilepsy got progressively worse in the last years of his life.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on April 22, 2015, 10:51:04 pm
It was unforgivable how he was removed from his family, at their behest, and until the day he died. Ungodly people.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on April 22, 2015, 11:51:23 pm
^ India, I just watched a YouTube video that is based on as much fact as can be found.  You might find it of interest because it seems his initial parting from his family was due to the war.   Clearly there were the usual RF issues surrounding illness, or the inability to accept not all is perfect, but it's a more humane light that is shed in this one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=peKGD48yqTk

I do think it terribly sad that he was parted, but he certainly wasn't unloved by any means.  Poor child, the illness alone was suffering enough, but it has often made me question if Edward and Sophie's child has something wrong. I hope not.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Countess of Holland on April 23, 2015, 07:59:57 am
James is seen often enough with his family, to the races, to the Commonwealth Games, a few weeks ago to South Africa. I just get the feeling that he is a very active boy (he always seems to be climbing on things) who can't sit still for longer than ten minutes. So his parents decided not to take him to the more official events that require him to sit still, like church services.

And that is a wise thing because if an anonymous child is shifting and turning on his chair we might say 'oh well', but when he does it, the press will cry 'shame on him' and will go after his parents for not raising him properly. While these journalists, for all we know, have an equally active son who just happens not to be in the spotlights.

So no, I don't think anything is wrong with him. I have nephews (and a few tom-boy nieces) who are overly active as well, or who were when they were younger. And as they get older, they will adapt easier to what is expected and will act accordingly. And it is for the parents to decide when that moment is with James. They most certainly know him much better than we do (and perhaps with the nanny, they know him best).


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: AnaBolena on April 23, 2015, 05:37:12 pm
^ Well said CoH  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on June 17, 2015, 03:44:34 am
Does Sophie have any girlfriends?  Does she ever socialize with friends?   I never see photos of her out and about with her kids doing normal activities or out and about with girlfriends. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Tpearl on June 17, 2015, 04:02:49 am
Good question. She seems to be a bit of a loner.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 20, 2015, 05:27:33 pm
Well, I have neglected the Coy Countess because of all the excitement in the Swedish Court.   kisss    But while scrolling through some headlines, I found this article, published yesterday:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3278885/From-frumpy-fabulous-Sophie-Wessex-caved-royal-style-demands-ditched-boring-trouser-suits-one-Vanity-Fair-s-best-dressed.html

I cannot believe the audacity of this woman.  Periodically, there appears a DM article (with Sophie's fingerprints all over it), to tell us how AMAZING this woman is!  The Best Royal Evah!   The Perfect Royal Wife!   So Stylish!  Looking Younger Every Day!    Bestest Bosom Buddies with the Queen!   Never Puts a Hoof Wrong!   Et Cetera.    :wopedo:

And here we go again.  Sophie feels the need to drum up some attention for herself. And we get this ridiculous dribble:

". . . The wife of the Prince Edward, told the Sunday Express, that during the early years of her marriage, she tried to resist wearing expensive designer clothes for fear that her outfits would overshadow her charity work.
She said: 'It's still not about me, it's about my charities. But I recognise that I'm on display.'

The Countess revealed that a casual chat with someone had made her realise that fashion was something to be taken seriously.

She added: 'I wrestled with that one for a little while and caved in at the end of the day.' . . . "


Huh?   She did not realize that for HUNDREDS (a thousand) years that everyone was interested in what the royals wore?   

Does she not realize how shallow this makes her look?  After all Princess Anne has worn the same hairstyle for years, wears appropriate -- but not fashion forward -- clothes, gets few headlines or cover photos for her work, but realizes that it is about the WORK she does for the charity and not her clothes or looks?!

Evidently, for Sophie, it is all about the clothes and how much attention she gets, and the personal acclaim she receives. It really is all about her.  I think she does care about her charities, but she is also very aware of how to use the charities as her own personal vanity vehicle.


And then this story, the day before the one above, we again, hear about her closeness with the Queen and this statement:

"Sophie, Countess of Wessex, is fast becoming one of the most popular members of the royal family, who earns as much admiration for her sense of duty and charity support as for her sense of style. . . ."

Fast becoming one of the most popular?  Really?  Most people don't even know who she is or who her husband is.    Well, Soph, it's good to have a dream.    :laugh:   :o    :laugh:    :o


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3278383/The-Queen-great-listener-Sophie-Wessex-praises-amazing-mother-law-never-loses-desire-learn.html

I think Sophie believes she can PR her way into the Queenship.   


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 20, 2015, 08:26:31 pm
I get so sick and tired of the deliberate clueless that is expressed by women who marry into these families, as if they're all virginal ingenues. The woman is a mother of two and married for nearly twenty years, time to set the silliness aside and grow up and find something new to talk about.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 29, 2015, 03:17:45 pm
^KF, this story was timed to remind everyone of the fabulous Sophie since she was not going to be at the State Dinner and Kate was.   She wanted to get some attention for herself, but to no avail.  She was ignored as always and Kate has had much media attention.  That's the way it works, and Sophie needs to accept it.   She was once the second lady in the land by a fluke.  It's over now, and she needs to accept the position she is in and that she is never going to move up.   


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: My2Pence on October 29, 2015, 08:56:04 pm
I don't see this article as a Sophie plant. More like the press trying to get back at W&K by showcasing how Sophie works and dresses well all at the same time. Her style has definitely improved from the early years, although most female members of the BRF looked like they were wearing costumes in the 1990s. If I never seen another color block skirt suit it will be too soon.  Sophie is also the patron of London College of Fashion. She's going to have to talk fashion every so often, and if she public said fashion didn't matter to her at all, she'd be in trouble as their patron.

Wasn't Sophie on the way to Germany to visit her regiment at the time of the State dinner? 

Anne was a real fashion plate in her day and continues to wear some quite elaborate outfits. Her early fashions were sometimes crazy fads, but involved her really paying attention to what she was wearing. In her own way she still does this, from the rose-and-floral outfit from Zara wedding to the elaborate embroidered coats that she's worn lately.  Anne's a champion re-cycler and she wears a lot of basic suits with her mended black gloves, but every so often the fashion plate comes out with a vengeance.



Recent Anne fashion

http://images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/590x/secondary/37984.jpg (http://images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/590x/secondary/37984.jpg)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/03/article-1393596-0C6063A200000578-362_306x641.jpg
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/16/article-2115949-12334151000005DC-2_306x709.jpg
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/19/23/29BE595B00000578-0-image-m-88_1434754254297.jpg
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Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 29, 2015, 10:01:29 pm
^Oh, in my opinion, it was definitely a Sophie plant, as the press doesn't give a hoot about her to write about her on their own -- otherwise, they would.

And the evening of the State Banquet, Sophie was at Exeter Cathedal in Exeter, Devon.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: My2Pence on October 29, 2015, 10:33:26 pm
Looks like Germany thing was just prior to the Chinese visit.  I don't see the article as a Sophie plant. If the press doesn't care enough to write about her, they care enough to write about her to take a dig at W&K (which is what I think this was).

Looks like Sophie had three engagements the date of the State dinner, so makes perfect sense she wasn't there (just like Charles and Camilla weren't present).

October 20
The Countess of Wessex this afternoon visited Vispring Limited, Ernesettle Lane, Ernesettle, Plymouth, and was received by Her Majesty's Lord-Lieutenant of Devon (Mr. David Fursdon).

Her Royal Highness later visited Headway Devon, the XCentre, Commercial Road, Exeter.

The Countess of Wessex, Patron, the Two Moors Festival, subsequently attended the Fifteenth Anniversary production of the Opera "Tarka the Otter" at Exeter Cathedral.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 30, 2015, 03:48:54 am
Sophie's stories about how popular and fashionable she is, doesn't make it so.  Nor will she ever be able to compete with any woman young enough to be her daughter, and she makes herself look foolish in trying to do so, in my opinion. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: My2Pence on October 30, 2015, 03:08:12 pm
You think they are Sophie plants. I don't. Neither of us will ever know. She shows up, does her work, and seems appreciated by the People and Firm. Since that's her job as Royal Spouse, she's doing it well. As the older and lower-down royals phase out and W&K  refuse to work, I expect Sophie to continue as as royal workhorse for another 20 years.

As for fashion? I think Sophie has improved through the years and she shows you can be fashionable and fashionably age-appropriate at any age. I don't think being fashionable should be restricted to 20 or 30 somethings, so I appreciate Sophie's stylish efforts.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 30, 2015, 03:41:36 pm
I do believe Sophie is behind her puff pieces.  She was in PR, you know.  She is very frustrated that she does not have a higher profile and does everything she can to raise it rather than be content with the position to which she has risen in life.   Her marrying into the queen's family was beyond her wildest dreams, yet it isn't enough for her.

Sophie will continue to work, no doubt, but Charles' vision of a much reduced royal family puts a question mark as to the extent of the Wessex role.  The relationship between the Wessexes and Charles is historically rocky.  And Charles won't be giving them the financial assistance the Queen and Phil have given them over the years, so we'll see how it all works out for Sophie.     :bored:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: My2Pence on October 30, 2015, 04:03:06 pm
I think Sophie knows this is a PR job, so she does the job of PR for the BRF. I don't think she's behind these stories, I think it is the press promoting Sophie over KM as a way of getting back at W&K.  As long as a member of the BRF is getting good press and showing up to work, that member is doing a good job as a royal. If Sophie is getting good press, it means she's doing her job as Perfect Royal Wife (likewise Birgitte).

I doubt Charles will have a choice.  W&K refuse to work, and they cannot reduce the royal workload or number of annual engagement without the public screaming.  Charles needs Edward and Sophie, even if he doesn't want to need them. E&S do their jobs, they're solid royals, they'll pick up the slack of daily engagements W&K refuse to do. They engage with the Continental royals so Charles doesn't have to.  Sophie and Edward will continue to work for the Firm for 20 years, and Charles will pony up the money to keep them in style because he needs them working. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 30, 2015, 06:51:04 pm
 I think Sophie does a PR job for herself.  The press isn't going to compare Sophie to Kate because that's apples to oranges.  They aren't comparable.  Kate can be compared to Mary of Teck, Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, and Diana Spencer.   Sophie can be compared to Alice, the Duchess of Gloucester and Marina, the Duchess of Kent.

Sophie always wants people to know that she's the queen's favorite, and that's lovely.  However, what will that get her when the queen is gone other than her own personal feelings (and I'm not discounting that)?  It doesn't push her into a new position within the royal family.  Kate will move up even higher and Sophie will be even lower because now it is not her mother-in-law who is the monarch, but her brother-in-law; while it is Kate's father-in-law who is monarch rather than her grandmother-in-law.

Granted, I think Kate is a complete disaster and never wanted William to marry her.  But as long as she is there, these are the realities of how the pecking order works in a royal family, and the press follows the pecking order.  Sophie can be as dutiful and hardworking as can be, and while her charities are appreciative, she will never have the limelight that Kate and Harry's wife will have.   No one today remembers the work that Alice and Marina did, even though they were dutiful members of the BRF (and in Marina's case, of royal blood, beautiful and stylish).  That is Sophie's future, and she does not appear to be accepting the realities.     


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: My2Pence on October 30, 2015, 08:01:49 pm
You think she isn't accepting her position, I think she doesn't care. You think she is begging for press, I think the press is pushing her forward to try to shame Middleton. We'll continue to disagree because, reading your posts, Sophie is always wrong in your eyes. At least you admit her charities appreciate her.

I think Sophie really is the perfect royal wife, much like Marie of Denmark, which is the title of the thread. She does the job, shows up, bats cleanup, and is appreciated by the royals and the people.  Most members of the family always look happy to see Sophie, which tells me a lot in a family this crazy. She makes the effort to get along and be a peacemaker. The BRF desperately needs someone like Sophie, both now and into the future.

We are allowed to compare any royals we want. Sophie can be compared to KM because she is a working royal. It doesn't matter whether she is the wife of a future consort or not. She is a married-in spouse who is working rings around Middleton, has always been engaged with her work, and is a royal the family and the people can count on to do the job. 

Edward is Philip's favorite, hence the DoE title that will likely come to him. Sophie is HM's favorite. What will that get them?  A significant chunk of the private inheritance and guarantees secured by HM that Charles will treat them well. HM and Philip will not leave E&S hanging.  No matter what Charles does, they'll be VERY well taken care of by private funds as will their children. Again, Charles's slimming plan will only work if W&K work. Since they won't work, Edward and Sophie will continue to be quiet workhorses for 20 years.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stephanie on October 30, 2015, 08:04:52 pm
I don't see Sophie as a conniving person at all.
She married the youngest brother so she knew from the start that she wouldn't be a high ranking royal.
She is a hard worker and always looks good.
About her relationship with HM:good for her.
Sophie's mother passed away and she had a difficult relationship with her so if she gets some warmth and appreciation from her MIL I can't see the harm in that.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: leogirl on October 31, 2015, 04:32:22 am
I think Sophie is doing a great job.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Freya on October 31, 2015, 07:06:30 am
Sophie shows up in the Midlands more than the others and for that she gets my vote.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 13, 2015, 04:01:44 pm
I wonder why Sophie did not make a fuss over her daughter's 12th birthday?   I have not seen any photos of Louise or a mother-daughter photo of Louise and Sophie to celebrate this occasion.   Louise is rapidly becoming a young woman.  She has the potential to be a very pretty girl, and I do hope that her mother will buy her a pretty skirt and sweater/jacket, some stylish flats and black tights, and maybe pull her hair back in a bow for the Christmas church appearance.    And I hope that James will finally be allowed to be with the family that day, as well. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: leogirl on November 14, 2015, 10:34:40 am
I agree, something should have been done to celebrate. Maybe they will next year when she officially becomes a teenager? I hope so. Maybe her birthday was kept low key because it was on Remembrance Day this year?


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on November 30, 2015, 09:36:21 pm
I think this was not posted

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In a speech she told a group of some of the city’s wealthiest women: ‘I am rare because I am one of the few ladies in the British Royal Family who has had a professional business career and their own company.

‘So perhaps I am able, through my own experience, to have a deeper appreciation of the corporate world and what it’s like to have to climb the career ladder.’ Sophie is, indeed, one of the few royal women to have run her own business. Princess Anne has always undertaken full-time royal duties, while the Duchess of Cambridge flitted from a part-time job working as an accessories buyer to working for her family firm before marrying William and having children.


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Though it's true she could have worded it differently the I am rare sounds like she thinks she is a special snowflake.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 04, 2015, 05:05:50 am
The other royal women are a product of their times, they didn't get to have sustained independent careers. Sophie couldn't sustain hers after marriage. I dislike how Sophie paints herself as a perfect example of royal modern womanhood. Kate flitted about, but that is hardly the norm. Crown Princess Masako was a high flying diplomat while Queen Maxima was involved in high finance. The other consorts had good honest jobs and so Sophie is not unique.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Countess of Holland on December 05, 2015, 03:14:46 pm
She is unique in the BRF, which is what she said. Diana was too young when she married, Sarah was in her mid-twenties so she could have had a a job but IIRC she didn't.

But to use the word 'rare' is indeed kind of odd. Personally I would not focus so much on the fact that she had a career and others had not. But on the other hand, it is perhaps the reason why she was asked for this position, so she could not have ignored her previous career.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 02, 2016, 01:23:47 am
How Sophie Wessex has risen to become the Queen's favourite in-law...leading to chilly relations with Kate

    Sophie free from being talked of as the natural successor to Princess Diana
    With focus turning on Kate, Countess of Wessex has escaped limelight
    Allowed her to become closer to Queen, who sees her as most trusted ally
    But while that relationship has flourished, she remains frosty with Duchess of Cambridge


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3381564/How-Sophie-Wessex-risen-Queen-s-favourite-law-leading-chilly-relations-Kate.html#ixzz3w2uM6PtR

Another promotional piece by the DM.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Countess of Holland on January 02, 2016, 10:57:51 am
I like Sophie, but this is indeed over the top.

Equally funny are the comments of people saying that Kate never put a foot wrong and follows royal protocol to the tee. I guess showing your private parts is protocol then.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on January 02, 2016, 11:42:58 am
^ I like Sophie too,  But the joke of saying cath medd never puts a foot wrong and always follows royal protocol, is the biggest lie in creation, and the public know it.  Wonder if juggers is still trying to make her look good?  If so thought he would have given up on that, or maybe he just likes keep bashing his head agains t a brick wall.  lol lol


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 02, 2016, 07:20:10 pm
^^^Oh, KF, this article is hilarious!  I laughed and laughed.   Kay and Levy are definitely tweaking Sophie and showcasing her pretentiousness!

First, we have that hilarious subheading of  "Sophie free from being talked of as the natural successor to Princess Diana".  Whoever (other than Sophie herself) thought that she was EVER a successor to Diana?  Sophie was never going to be Princess of Wales or Queen Consort.   She will continue to go further DOWN the line with every new marriage and birth.    So, I'm not quite sure what she thinks she is "free" of since this was never her reality.

Then the next hilarious subheading of "With focus turning Kate, CoW has escaped the limelight."   Of course, with or without Kate, the focus has NEVER been on Sophie except when she blabbed to the undercover reporter.  And, of course, in my opinion, Sophie is DESPERATELY trying to get herself into the news and have herself photographed.  Hence, the personal trainer, the over-the-top, expensive outfits, copying Kate's look (after having ceased copying Diana's look), etc.   No one really pays her any mind, and while she performs her duties adequately, she nevers draws a crowd.

And then we move to the subheadings that go to that tired, old statement of how close she is to the Queen who sees her as most trusted ally, daughter, blah, blah, blah.    I wonder what Charles and Anne think of these statements?  Also down in the article a royal aide is quoted:  "She is trusted and relied on by the Queen in a way I couldn't say applied to the Duchess of Cambridge or the Duchess of Cornwall. She is like another daughter to Her Majesty, they are that close."   Anne really IS the queen's daughter and has represented the monarch well, and truly HAS flown under the radar as Sophie claims she wishes to do.  What does Anne think about Sophie being the "favorite" daughter?   And we all know of Charles's jealousy.   What does he think about Sophie being touted as the "favorite" rather than his wife, Camilla?    I cannot believe that all is sunshine and roses behind the scene, and I think Sophie has done herself a disservice in blaring this stuff around rather than simply enjoying a private relationship with her mother-in-law.

Then we have that photo of Kate in the blue coatdress and Sophie with those feathers around her neck.  Kate is just standing there minding her own business but Sophie is zeroed in on Kate, glaring at her.  There are other photos like this, and   I think they portray which of them harbors the jealousy and ill-feelings. 

Then we move on to the paragraph about the Wessex Christmas card.  First of all, I think it is odd that Ed and Soph did not have a family photo as most royals do.  When royals have children, then children typically are in the card.  But their card was only Ed and Soph in Finland; then the article says that there was a SECOND photo on the back of just Sophie laughing in the snow:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/04/2555212500000578-2939786-image-m-21_1423066074989.jpg

Really?   This is what Sophie wanted to send out as her Christmas card?   Nothing of her children, only one of Edward who IS the royal, but there is a second separate photo of just Sophie.  What an ego that one has.

Then that ridiculous statement [where you know that Kay and Levy MUST be pulling our legs] that Sophie is the only mother in the family who would dare over-rule her royal husband to forbid her 8-year old son from going in the royal shoots.   Oh, yes, right.  Because Diana never had influence over her children, or Sarah, or Mark Phillips, etc.  Sophie after all wears the pants in the Wessex family.  That is obvious, imo.   Ed just trots along behind her.

Then we move on to how Sophie is not troubled about slipping down in the rankings from second lady in the land, nor is she troubled by the fact that she no longer has full-time police protection.   Yes, pull the other one!   And we are told that she was happy at this new status because it meant she could live life as an ordinary family the way she was brought up in a village in Kent.  Hahahahaha!   So, they'll be moving out of Bagshot soon, eh, and into a farmhouse?

Next we have the mindboggling statement that Sophie is the "model modern royal"  a "prototype" for the future from which young royals might learn.   There is absolutely nothing modern about Sophie.  She is a throwback to the queen's generation.  She wants the titles, the perks, the mansion, the whole royal bag of tricks.   There is nothing modern about her at all.

But, oh, we learn that Sophie does her own hair.  Well, it often looks like a blind chimpanzee did her hair, but I truly don't think some of the updos lately could have been done by her alone.   Kate famously "did her own makeup" for her royal wedding, and do we believe that Anne has a hairdresser on call?  So I don't think Sophie is doing anything unusual here.

But we learn that we all would have thought that Sophie would have been Kate's sounding board and counsel and that Sophie has never been "entirely at ease" with Kate.   Well, so what?  That's not unusual in a family with in-laws.  Sophie is, in my opinion, jealous of Kate's position -- one that she will never have -- and tried to kiss up to her in the beginning, as she did with the queen, but Kate obviously wasn't interested.  Probably William clued her in to Sophie's desire to hang onto her to try to get some of the spotlight.

And we close with the fact that Sophie is approaching her 51st birthday without caring a jot.   Yeah, right.

This was quite an entertaining article, and I hope that Kay and Levy continue to follow up with Sophie as the year progresses.     :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on January 02, 2016, 07:41:07 pm
Sophie behaves and toes the line. She is not an embarrassment. She is an asset not a liability to The Firm. And, she has not declared open warfare on the Queen.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on January 02, 2016, 08:07:18 pm
^Totally agree.  Cath medd is what she is - council estate nobody and thinks she should not improve herself, her way or no way.  She stalked for long enough, she should have been reading and learning royal etiquette etc.  Did she  -  no way, sees nothing wrong with herself, she must be one of the few.  About time the press laid off Sophie, she is perfection compared to cath medd in every way.  As the saying goes, you can take the girl out of the council estate, you can´t take the council estate out of the girl.    Scarol(e) definitely has her genetics in those kids, council estaters to the end.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on January 02, 2016, 09:10:52 pm
Sophie behaves and toes the line. She is not an embarrassment. She is an asset not a liability to The Firm. And, she has not declared open warfare on the Queen.

True but I honestly doubt Soph is 'untroubled' by not being the second lady of the land anymore. If she wasn't, she wouldn't be dressing the way she does etc.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: YooperModerator on January 02, 2016, 09:14:32 pm
^For me, I've read a lot about Kate amping up her appearance or at least making an attempt to conform so I don't have a problem with Sophie working on her image.  That's what this whole blasted family is about.

^^ and ^^^ Agree.  Sophie, unlike so many others, understands the corporate hierarchy and Rule #1 is, "Never forget who's the boss".  So, she doesn't make a fuss, shows up when asked, actually asks questions and is pro-active in her events and makes nice with HM.  It's very simple if you want to make any org a working machine.  So, no problem with her from me.  

This is her job.  And it's something Kate just hasn't realized yet; that she has a real job now.  I don't care if she has 12 kids (Victoria had quite a few!), she should be taking a few minutes to evaluate history and what happens to those who go against the person in charge.  It's never pretty.

Like it or lump it, HM is the only boss here.  In addition, PC, when his mother passes and if he's still living, will remember who made his mother happy so this is not only effectual on Sophie's part, it's smart behavior as well as good for hers or any of the royal charities.

My only real big beef with Kate, other than embarrassing her country and thrusting her odious family on everybody, is that she's lazy as muck.    


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 02, 2016, 09:54:29 pm
I do think she dislikes not being the youngest of the BRF anymore and I do think she's hardly disinterested; she's done her job, but seems to be just as fixated on the perks of the position and the prestige. I think her  closeness is overrated and I think Princess Anne and Princess Margaret were more allies with HM than Sophie could be. No one can succeed Diana and Sophie is not going to be successor in any area of the succession.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 03, 2016, 07:40:42 pm
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. . .  Sophie, unlike so many others, understands the corporate hierarchy and Rule #1 is, "Never forget who's the boss".  So, she doesn't make a fuss, shows up when asked, actually asks questions and is pro-active in her events and makes nice with HM.  It's very simple if you want to make any org a working machine.  So, no problem with her from me. 


Like it or lump it, HM is the only boss here.  In addition, PC, when his mother passes and if he's still living, will remember who made his mother happy so this is not only effectual on Sophie's part, it's smart behavior as well as good for hers or any of the royal charities.

Sophie's big mistake is that she is not smart enough to grasp that the monarchy is bigger than the monarch.   Sophie has chapped lips from kissing up to the Queen and Phil, but, meanwhile, she has behaved badly toward the next in line: Charles.  This will come back to haunt her in the very near future.

Both Charles and Anne were horrified by the damage Sophie inflicted on the monarchy with her blabbing secrets in return for PR accounts.  In fact, both of them were against Ed and Soph maintaining their businesses at all as they felt their business had the potential to harm or embarass the monarchy, as was proven to be the case.   Much was written about this in many sources at the time.   Here is a headline from a story at that time where Charles refused to participate in Ed and Soph's shenanigans immediately following Sophiegate:

https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-73511416.html

And then, when you would think Sophie would have learned her lesson and been ashamed of herself, she went back on her word to the queen to quit and was battling to keep the PR company and even took on the Prince of Wales:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/YOU+HYPOCRITE%3B+Sophie's+showdown+with+Charles+over+his+money-spinning...-a077544401

I remember reading about the attitude of the Wessexes during this period of time and one source said that Sophie told Charles:  "Not all of us have a Duchy of Cornwall to fall back on."      ???   

The woman truly has amazing cheek.    Does she really believe she is entitled to live in a larger home than the Heir?

And then, of course, about three months after these talks, Edward's company violated an agreement with the media to give William privacy his first year at St. Andrews and was caught filming and interviewing on campus.  And Philip took Edward's side against Charles and Sophie had to again criticize the Heir to the Throne:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/GAG+SOPHIE%3B+Palace+anger+as+she+joins+Wills+TV+row.-a078777496

She has been lucky up til now because for whatever reason [perhaps to thwart the Edward is gay rumors], Liz and Phil have covered for her many, many mistakes.  And they have been many.   Unfortunately for her, the queen really is declining and Charles is already taking over many responsibilities.   I do not think Charles will throw them on the trash heap, and they will continue to carry out engagements, but there is no love lost between Charles and the Wessexes.    The queen loves the York girls, but Charles is adamant that they will not be working royals.  I feel he will be equally adamant that the Wessexes begin living within their means and according to their position in the family.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on January 03, 2016, 07:59:13 pm
@Miss H please do not use caps to highlight. Use the bold, underline or italicised tools instead.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 03, 2016, 10:06:47 pm
Sophie just strikes me as passive aggressive and I do get sick of Sophie the Ally promotional pieces.


Title: Official Duties
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 04, 2016, 04:14:05 pm
It's been two years since the Earl and Countess of Wessex enjoyed a jaunt to Jamaica on official business, so the hardworking minor royals are clearly due some R&R.
Edward and Sophie Wessex set off yesterday on a six-day tour of the Bahamas, Florida and the Cayman Islands to promote the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. Since engagements are official, I'm sure the Wessexes will eschew the private jet they chartered for their private family skiing holiday last year.
Still, this week's West Indies trip is perfectly timed for clement weather. Life's a beach when one's not paying.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3474082/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Jagger-s-girl-mourns-love-life-Daisy.html#ixzz41x2E4rlQ
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Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 10, 2016, 05:03:44 am
I think Sophie is basically a royal wife of the Edwardian mold (look how she dresses her daughter) and basically wants to remain the youngest one in the RF as much as possible. My main issue with her is how she has been set up as a great example of a modern woman who is untitled being the best thing to happen and the reason Kate would be completely acceptable to the BRF. Despite the fact that Sophie is in many ways very regressive.

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. . .  Sophie, unlike so many others, understands the corporate hierarchy and Rule #1 is, "Never forget who's the boss".  So, she doesn't make a fuss, shows up when asked, actually asks questions and is pro-active in her events and makes nice with HM.  It's very simple if you want to make any org a working machine.  So, no problem with her from me. 

Like it or lump it, HM is the only boss here.  In addition, PC, when his mother passes and if he's still living, will remember who made his mother happy so this is not only effectual on Sophie's part, it's smart behavior as well as good for hers or any of the royal charities.

Sophie's big mistake is that she is not smart enough to grasp that the monarchy is bigger than the monarch.   Sophie has chapped lips from kissing up to the Queen and Phil, but, meanwhile, she has behaved badly toward the next in line: Charles.  This will come back to haunt her in the very near future.

Both Charles and Anne were horrified by the damage Sophie inflicted on the monarchy with her blabbing secrets in return for PR accounts.  In fact, both of them were against Ed and Soph maintaining their businesses at all as they felt their business had the potential to harm or embarass the monarchy, as was proven to be the case.   Much was written about this in many sources at the time.   Here is a headline from a story at that time where Charles refused to participate in Ed and Soph's shenanigans immediately following Sophiegate:
https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-73511416.html

And then, when you would think Sophie would have learned her lesson and been ashamed of herself, she went back on her word to the queen to quit and was battling to keep the PR company and even took on the Prince of Wales:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/YOU+HYPOCRITE%3B+Sophie's+showdown+with+Charles+over+his+money-spinning...-a077544401

I remember reading about the attitude of the Wessexes during this period of time and one source said that Sophie told Charles:  "Not all of us have a Duchy of Cornwall to fall back on."      ???   

The woman truly has amazing cheek. Does she really believe she is entitled to live in a larger home than the Heir?

And then, of course, about three months after these talks, Edward's company violated an agreement with the media to give William privacy his first year at St. Andrews and was caught filming and interviewing on campus.  And Philip took Edward's side against Charles and Sophie had to again criticize the Heir to the Throne:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/GAG+SOPHIE%3B+Palace+anger+as+she+joins+Wills+TV+row.-a078777496

She has been lucky up til now because for whatever reason [perhaps to thwart the Edward is gay rumors], Liz and Phil have covered for her many, many mistakes.  And they have been many.   Unfortunately for her, the queen really is declining and Charles is already taking over many responsibilities.   I do not think Charles will throw them on the trash heap, and they will continue to carry out engagements, but there is no love lost between Charles and the Wessexes.    The queen loves the York girls, but Charles is adamant that they will not be working royals.  I feel he will be equally adamant that the Wessexes begin living within their means and according to their position in the family.

Sophie's problem is how she thinks she has some right to mouth off to everyone around her and their job is to take what she dishes out. That woman has a serious attitude that kind of ticks me off since she can't seem to get it into her head that she is low on the totem pole and should be supportive of Charles. If Charles cuts their budget, I would totally support that since like I said, Sophie won't be a needed working member in the future.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Fly on the wall on May 10, 2016, 04:17:38 pm
Sophie Wessex says her daughter Louise didn't realise her grandmother was the Queen
The Countess of Wessex has recalled the moment her daughter Louise realised that her grandmother is the Queen. The Countess was giving an interview with the BBC's Louise Minchin, when she was asked by the presenter if her children are starting to acknowledge that their granny is a highly important public figure.
http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016051031341/sophie-wessex-daughter-louise-the-queen/

Countess of Wessex takes on 445-mile Palace to Palace bike ride
Sophie, Countess of Wessex is to cycle 445 miles from the Palace of Holyroodhouse to Buckingham Palace after signing up for the Duke of Edinburgh's Award's Diamond Challenge.

The 51-year-old mother-of-two, who is a long-term supporter of the DofE Award programme, hopes to complete the Edinburgh to London journey in seven days in September.

She said she was "excited and apprehensive" about what she was taking on.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/10/countess-of-wessex-takes-on-445-mile-palace-to-palace-bike-ride/


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: One of the Peasants on May 11, 2016, 07:24:10 pm
More PR from BP

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3583933/I-want-children-earn-living-says-Sophie-Countess-Wessex-speaks-efforts-ensure-son-daughter-grow-normally-possible.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3583933/I-want-children-earn-living-says-Sophie-Countess-Wessex-speaks-efforts-ensure-son-daughter-grow-normally-possible.html)

The comments are negative and fascinating. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 14, 2016, 04:41:30 pm
^ and ^^ . . . oh, where to begin with this idiot?!!?   Okay, first her daughter just recently "realized" that Granny is the queen?  So Sophie is saying her daughter is stupid?   Cause I think the girl was in a wedding at Westminster Abbey and has stood on the balcony during the Trooping, and I think she's smart enough to notice all the bowing and pomp and majesty and bouquet giving, and parades, and RAF jets flying overhead, etc. that surrounds her grandmother.   There are stories of heirs realizing at some point in their childhood that they are the next monarch.   But to not realize that a family member is the monarch is stupidity beyond belief, and I don't believe this to be true for a second.  This is just Sophie trying to be all cutesy and coy.

And her comments about making every effort to ensure her kids grow up as normally as possible.   Then why in the sam hill is she raising them in Bagshot Manor?   Yeah, that's normal.   Even Anne's and Charles' country homes are more normal because they are work estates.  But Bagshot is just a grandiose manor.  I think this was Sophie being her witchy little self and getting a dig in at the Yorks.

Last, grandma Sophie is going to do a publicity stunt on a bike.   Oh, that will be fun.  She doesn't waste any opportunity to hang out with hunky military men -- well, who can blame her. I doubt even Eddie does -- and to drum up publicity for herself.  But it is funny how Sophie continues to copy the Middletons.   Kate's hair and fashions and hockey playing . . . and now Pippa's bicycling.   I expect next Sophie will be rolling out her version of Bagshot Marshmallows so she can go toe-to-toe with James.

I blame Her Majesty for allowing Sophie to do as she pleases with no restraints.      :Kate:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 14, 2016, 07:44:20 pm
I am sick and tired of royals and their delusion of normalcy; this is how these unsuitable types get into these families, by basically playing on the delusions of these idiot men. I really resent Diana for starting this trend and basically nourishing the mindset that has brought nothing but trouble.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Tatiana on September 20, 2016, 05:38:29 am
  People "in the know" are aware that Sophie is a phony, and an unpleasant one at that.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 20, 2016, 06:34:25 am
More PR from BP

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3583933/I-want-children-earn-living-says-Sophie-Countess-Wessex-speaks-efforts-ensure-son-daughter-grow-normally-possible.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3583933/I-want-children-earn-living-says-Sophie-Countess-Wessex-speaks-efforts-ensure-son-daughter-grow-normally-possible.html)
The comments are negative and fascinating.

Can't she just let her daughter be a kid and not map out her future to the press? I believe mainstream normalcy is only possible if her mother ends up keeping her mouth shut to the press and focuses instead on her daughter's upbringing. She needs to stop dressing her daughter in an Edwardian manner and elt her interact with more kids her age from different backgrounds.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on September 21, 2016, 08:06:56 pm
  People "in the know" are aware that Sophie is a phony, and an unpleasant one at that.

The positive thing she has going on is that at least she makes an effort and is happy to do it. It's a lot of being a royal and all that but at least she gives a bit back. The worst thing I see is being smug you are a royal but still looking like you would prefer to be somewhere else.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: leogirl on September 22, 2016, 01:09:24 am
At least act happy even if you aren't, for the benefit of those around you. Don't bring everyone else down just because you happen to be having a bad day.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on September 22, 2016, 03:39:06 pm
Sophie let her "pleasant royal" mask slip in public right before the Royal Wedding of 2011 when she turned on her bodyguard and was photographed snarling in the street.      lol


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: cate1949 on September 22, 2016, 06:54:25 pm
ah well - Sophie.  I think Sophie is living in a very competitive environment - competing for the treats the Queen will give her younger kids.
But unlike the family members she lacks the ability to keep the strain from showing.  She also lacks the ability to keep her ambition from showing.

Unfortunately Eddie never went out and made his fortune - so Sophie has to do all the work to keep her family in the race.  Eddie certainly could have done at Bagshot what Charles did at Highgrove - make it a money making enterprise so they were less dependent on the Queen.  As it is now - their kids have no land or house to inherit and they rely on a subsidy from the Queen to maintain their lifestyle.  Her son will be a landless houseless Duke of Edinburgh!  You would think Sophie would have found a way to get a estate out of the Queen rather than this grandiose loaner which costs a fortune to maintain.

Andy has the Windsor Lodge with a 99 year lease which passes on to his daughters plus he will leave them the skiing lodge.  Sophie and Eddie have nothing - so yes - their kids will have to make their own way through life.

The Duke of Edinburgh awards scheme and the title are all that Eddie really has so Sophie has to throw herself into supporting this to assure Charles cannot *private body part* it away from them. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 22, 2016, 08:51:47 pm
I think Sophie is a lot like Fergie.

Married into the family with the idea of living a life of Romanov-style grandeur and basically lord it over everyone. There is no real such thing as a set royal lifestyle, each dynasty is different and a lot of royals prefer an unpretentious life. Apparently a title and income and comfortable home isn't enough for Miss Fine Airs and she would prefer millions to squander on a jet set luxurious lifestyle.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Val on September 22, 2016, 09:14:17 pm
What happened to her charity bike ride?  I was expecting to hear about it in the media but nothing.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 22, 2016, 11:14:27 pm
^She's doing it its just that its not getting talk about as much


I had to dig deep and push on': Sophie Wessex shares the struggles of her 450-mile bike ride as she shows off her toned legs on day three of the epic cycle
The Countess of Wessex has shared the struggles she encountered on day two of her epic 450-mile bike ride admitting she knew it would be the hardest day.

Writing on her blog about 450 mile ride from Edinburgh to London on behalf of the Duke of Edinburgh's Award scheme, which is celebrating its 60th Diamond anniversary, the 51-year-old said: 'I'm really happy to have completed day two, I knew it was going to be the hardest.'

Sophie and her team were waved off this morning by staff, volunteers and young people involved in the Duke of Edinburgh's Award as they departed from Gaza Barracks in Catterick Garrison as they began day three of their Diamond Challenge.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3799946/Sophie-Wessex-shares-struggles-450-mile-bike-ride.html

Sophie Wessex embarks on her 445 mile cycle ride: 'The Queen thinks I'm crazy'
The Countess of Wessex is cycling an impressive 445 miles from the Palace of Holyroodhouse in Edinburgh to Buckingham Palace in London this week.

Sophie set herself the challenge to raise money for The Duke of Edinburgh's Award, which is marking its sixtieth anniversary this year.

Speaking exclusively to HELLO!'s royal correspondent Emily Nash, the superfit royal admitted: "There are certain members of the family who think I'm completely crazy.http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016092033594/sophie-wessex-interview-queen-cycling-mad/

How the Countess of Wessex gave a royal boost to Northumberland cadets and students
Cadets and students received a Royal boost when the Countess of Wessex took time out from her 450-mile cycling challenge to chat about their achievements.

Sophie met students from The Northumberland Church of England Academy (NCEA) when they came to wave her off on the second leg of her Edinburgh to London bike ride.

She set out from Otterburn where the school’s cadet force was waiting to show their support.

Her Diamond Challenge marks the 60-year anniversary of the Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme, which the academy in Ashington has been participating in for the past three years.

It has now received extra funding from the Queen’s Trust to grow the scheme which is said to be making a huge difference in a disadvantaged area where 50% of pupils, compared to the national average of 27%, qualify for free school meals.

Eyton Parker, its scheme manager, noted its impact on behaviour, teamwork skills and on confidence, particularly in girls.http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/how-countess-wessex-gave-royal-11916594




Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Val on September 23, 2016, 06:12:53 am
^

Thank you. 

Unfortunately if it had been Kate it would have been the main headlines.  I was expecting to see more about it on TV unless it's an Hello condition to keep it low profile.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on September 23, 2016, 02:38:52 pm
ah well - Sophie.  I think Sophie is living in a very competitive environment - competing for the treats the Queen will give her younger kids.
But unlike the family members she lacks the ability to keep the strain from showing.  She also lacks the ability to keep her ambition from showing.

Unfortunately Eddie never went out and made his fortune - so Sophie has to do all the work to keep her family in the race.  Eddie certainly could have done at Bagshot what Charles did at Highgrove - make it a money making enterprise so they were less dependent on the Queen.  As it is now - their kids have no land or house to inherit and they rely on a subsidy from the Queen to maintain their lifestyle.  Her son will be a landless houseless Duke of Edinburgh!  You would think Sophie would have found a way to get a estate out of the Queen rather than this grandiose loaner which costs a fortune to maintain.

Andy has the Windsor Lodge with a 99 year lease which passes on to his daughters plus he will leave them the skiing lodge.  Sophie and Eddie have nothing - so yes - their kids will have to make their own way through life.

The Duke of Edinburgh awards scheme and the title are all that Eddie really has so Sophie has to throw herself into supporting this to assure Charles cannot *private body part* it away from them. 

Yes, you hit the nail on the head.  Sophie is a hard-as-nails, ambitious, social ladder climber.  She gives Carole a run for the money in that department.  It's just that the Queen and Phil were so delighted to solve the Edward problem, they turn a blind eye to Sophie's missteps.

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Unfortunately if it had been Kate it would have been the main headlines.

It's all about the pecking order in monarchies.  Kate, hopeless as she is, is (right now) in line to become the queen consort one day.  Sophie is married to Edward.  No one cares about Edward.  The Wessexes are the Michael Kents all over again.  Retiring, boring royal man married to an attractive, ambitious woman who is determined to become the star of the show.    All of Sophie's efforts to toot her own horn never go beyond a localized audience.   The DoE Awards people are appreciating her cycling, but it doesn't go much further than this despite her throwing out to the media how the queen and Phil thought she was "mad" to undertake riding a bicycle and how deep she has to dig to keep on cycling. . . .   And without training wheels, mind you.   

 :stars:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 23, 2016, 09:16:43 pm
Siophie needs to stop pushing herself and know her place.

Can't hse just be content that she has a fairly undemanding life and enjoy it?


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: cate1949 on September 23, 2016, 09:24:45 pm
ooohh - Kui Fei you just pushed my feminist button - a woman's place is where ever she wants it to be!



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: leogirl on September 24, 2016, 07:26:07 am
^ A married woman's place is to support her husband, and a married man to support his wife. She is married to a man pretty far down in the line of succession. She should support the family she married into without trying to steal the show.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: kolkomilko on September 24, 2016, 08:00:59 am
Doesn't she support the family? What do you think of? I would like to know more about your opinion.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Val on September 24, 2016, 08:04:55 am
The RF prefer Sophie out front rather than hopeless gaff prone Kate.  Sophie has her faults but nothing compared to embarrassing Kate. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: kolkomilko on September 24, 2016, 08:33:31 am
Anyway, I agree. I don't understand this comparison. I think there is no reason for it. They are so far away from each other.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: leogirl on September 24, 2016, 09:52:35 am
Nope, no comparison. Sophie's mistakes are nothing compared to Kate's. And we have not seen Sophie's vaj or breasts.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 24, 2016, 10:14:08 am
The RF isn't about being fair to women or feminist; Sophie forgets that she's WAY beneath Charles in rank and needs to stop promoting herself. It's the job of the RF to rally around the Heir and Sovereign. No mouthing off about not having a Duchy of Cornwall.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on September 24, 2016, 02:00:58 pm
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The RF prefer Sophie out front rather than hopeless gaff prone Kate

And this shows how hopeless the BRF is in the world of modern PR.  The BRF also preferred Charles to be out front rather than Diana.  But Diana brought the humanity and the glamour and was the one who could bridge the gap upon the death of the queen.   Charles gets respect because of his position, but interest in the monarchy dropped off upon the divorce and death of Diana.  They cut their nose off to spite their face by pushing out Diana and thinking her absence would cause attention to turn back to them.

I am sure the BRF would rather have the Duchess of Gloucester out front, as well; but who gets excited by her, nice woman though she is?

Sophie cannot be out front.  She's way down the line.  She draws a crowd of 20 people on a good day.    If Kate isn't working out, then they need to put intelligence to work to build a case against her and kick her out as they did Sarah Ferguson and tried with Diana.

But Sophie cannot step in as "top dog".  Although she is delusional enough to think she can.    lol


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 25, 2016, 03:21:21 am
I do believe that Sophie refuses to just act her age; she's been part of the RF for a long time, has a secure place in that family and history, nothing should be wrong with her life. Anything more would be too much and she doesn't have the pressures that the top dogs have. A huge reason I think that the trained aristos and a royal would be better at times is because a lot of these commoner born wives seem to have some kind of need to try to become global playing superstars like Diana was. "Archduchess" Kathleen was born in Ohio and for a while she was interviewing and posing, until her father-in-law stepped in and put a stop to it. Sophie waltzed in and started making a mess via her PR company and I believe that she has ended up doing her duties well, but for some reason lately it's like she's been panicked that the press has moved on.

Mouthing off about (or to) Charles is out of line and she has no excuse. Rank is everything in that world and I am certain that it's not nice, but it is the way things are. She should know better and know her place.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 25, 2016, 07:00:33 pm
The Royal Family ‏@RoyalFamily
#DofEChallenge = Completed!
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Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: kolkomilko on September 26, 2016, 08:16:41 am
 :flower: Well done! Unfortunately Pipps gets more interest as a "sport lady" in press.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on September 26, 2016, 12:51:13 pm
It is so nice to see a member of the RF who is nice, elegant and knows how to behave. How refreshing.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 30, 2016, 01:01:24 am
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But Sophie cannot step in as "top dog".  Although she is delusional enough to think she can.

Ah, my words from September.   And now we see the delusional Sophie stepping in to take the place of the Queen at Philip's side.   Look at her in her ridiculous Ascot hat at church, walking in front of Prince Charles, in front of Harry, and slightly in front of Prince Philip, whom she should be "helping" down the steps or at least watching to make sure he isn't tripping since she rolled up in the car with him as his "companion".  Instead she is looking for the cameras.   Look at me!  Look at me!  I am the favorite!  I should be queen!!   As if SHE were the star of the show, which, of course, she is trying to be.   Such a ridiculous woman.  Ambitious, butt kissing, hard as nails.  

https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/royals-b-4.jpg?w=2000


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 30, 2016, 01:07:29 am
She just can't help herself can she? Walking in front of Charles, out of line. She's supposed to be trailing the RF, not co-leading with HM. These so called 'down to earth commoners' become very grand right away, don't they? Way out of her league.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on December 30, 2016, 01:16:33 pm
Sophie may be out of her league by walking in front of PC and PP but nothing she has ever done will approach the utter disrespect that The Potato Head has repeatedly displayed toward her monarch.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 30, 2016, 03:03:35 pm
This photo shows Sophie's disrespect to Philip, Charles and Harry.   If the idea was for her to be Philip's companion and keep an eye on the old gent, she certainly isn't here on the step where an elderly person needs to have an eye out on them.  She is looking for and grinning for the cameras.   Look at me!   I will agree she has kissed the queen's hind end so hard, she has chapped lips, but she has been disrespectful over and over to Charles who will be the next king.  She and Edward were jerks toward Charles when Edward violated the press agreement at St. Andrew's.  She has made comments about not having a Duchy of Cornwall.  She has made comments about Diana (William and Harry's mother) which the Sheikh made public.   She is a piece of work.   But what goes 'round, comes 'round and Charles will make it all right when he steps in and Sophie doesn't have elderly people to kiss up to.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on December 30, 2016, 03:48:40 pm
Sophie is not a priority to Charles. He has much bigger fish to fry in the form of The Viper and Her Potato Head.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on December 30, 2016, 05:06:20 pm
This is not Kate's thread...


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: leogirl on December 30, 2016, 10:57:18 pm
I think PC plans to downsize the monarchy. Not sure what Sophie will do when he becomes King. Louise and James will be expected to work normal jobs like regular people.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: marion on December 30, 2016, 10:59:57 pm
^OMG they gave royal blood in their veins and you expect them to work  :o


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: leogirl on December 31, 2016, 01:47:29 am
I think it depends on the situation. They can do appearances if there is a big enough budget, booming economy, etc. But as it is right now, people are struggling, budgets will have to be cut... fewer working royals, and the ones they do keep will have to stay busy to make it worth the money.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: FrederickLouis on January 01, 2017, 10:09:09 pm
The Countess of Wessex will replace The Queen as Patron of the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC).


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Little light on January 01, 2017, 10:47:00 pm
With the way Sophie led the Royals out of Church, and not way behind and at her husband's side, I do feel she would have like to have been the Royal Consort of PC. Her ego demands it I feel.

And maybe it should have been Beatrice as a Blood Princess who should have escorted PP in HM's absence.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 03, 2017, 03:25:28 pm
And here is ol' Soph on New Year's, riding in the car with Philip, absolutely reveling in the fact that she is the senior royal woman there.  No queen, no Camilla, no Kate.  What an opportunist, looking for ways to draw attention to herself.   Notice that her makeup appears to have been applied with a trowel.   At least three inches thick.   She just leaves her husband and daughter to fend for themselves (and where is her son?), and she grabs onto a preeminent spot for herself.  I think Philip would not have minded riding in the car by himself.  Or even noticed.  Then Sophie could have been by her husband's side and not Elizabeth's husband's side.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/01/12/3BC1251600000578-4079610-image-m-44_1483275086802.jpg


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on January 03, 2017, 08:05:54 pm
BFD


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on January 04, 2017, 02:50:10 am
She certainly looks smug and content. Whenever Upchuck takes over, she will be in for a rude awakening.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 04, 2017, 05:12:37 am
I hope Charles gets her in line and makes her pay for mouthing off to him about not having a Duchy of Cornwall to pay for her living preferences.

With the way Sophie led the Royals out of Church, and not way behind and at her husband's side, I do feel she would have like to have been the Royal Consort of PC. Her ego demands it I feel.
And maybe it should have been Beatrice as a Blood Princess who should have escorted PP in HM's absence.

Funny how these 'down to earth' types go all out when it comes to trying to take over and push themselves way out of their league. Kate and Sophie were supposed to know their place and be well behaved, but each goes out of their way to upstage the Sovereign and Prince Charles. Kate had the habit of walking in front of HM at a handful of appearances and certainly Sophie has in her many ways been determined to live it up as much as possible. Neither know their place and both refuse to get it into their thick heads that it's not their place to mouth off to, or about, the Heir. I look forward to karma slapping her straight.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on January 05, 2017, 03:37:17 am
Fun times coming.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 07, 2017, 06:44:39 pm
I am certain that Sophie loves the fact that PP is retiring; now she can angle herself more towards being at HM's side more and more often.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 09, 2017, 03:14:56 pm
You know it, KF.   Sophie is always looking for the angle to push herself forward.   I don't think she understands that she is not in line to be queen.  So, I think we are in for some hilarity ahead courtesy of Soph's delusions of glory.   :bouncy:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on May 09, 2017, 04:10:22 pm
She is going alone to Harald's bday in Norway.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 09, 2017, 05:05:23 pm
Oh, she will love that!  Preening for the cameras while pretending she doesn't know they are there!   Smugly giving off the vibe, "I'm the Queen's chosen one, I am!"    LOL!   :James:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 09, 2017, 06:48:28 pm
She is going alone to Harald's bday in Norway.

I think she likes to go alone and pretend she's a royal in her own right and not married to a blithering dolt to get all she has.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on May 09, 2017, 07:46:49 pm
Sophie is full of herself but she does behave and knows how to act. It will come as quite a shock when Chucky sends her and Edds packing someday


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 09, 2017, 08:03:17 pm
When she mouthed off to Charles she clearly showed she had no idea how to act. Charles is the Heir and mouthing off about not having income from a duchy is one thing that has certainly shown she has no concept of her real place in the hierarchy.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: FrederickLouis on May 10, 2017, 01:55:31 am
She is going alone to Harald's bday in Norway.
   
Why is Prince Edward not attending King Harald's birthday?


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: meememe on May 10, 2017, 02:11:07 am
He had other engagements in the UK.

This is regarded as a 'private event' and so official duties in the UK or elsewhere on behalf of HM the Queen and the British government is seen as more important - hence Charles and Camilla in Ireland while many others also have pre-arranged engagements in the UK.

Different countries - different priorities - different views on precedence as well.

In the UK for instance the wife of the Queen's son has precedence over the grandson and granddaughter-in-law of the Queen even if said grandson and wife are higher in the line of succession. Precedence and line of succession are seen as two different things in the UK so although we may see the idea of sending Sophie as an insult the UK may not do so as they are seeing Sophie as the third highest lady in the land - behind the Queen and Camilla (who is in Ireland with her husband) - while to many outsiders it seems they are only sending the wife of the 9th in the line of succession.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Tatiana on May 10, 2017, 03:26:22 am
    

    Is anyone allowed to mention the "elephant in the room" with regards to Edward and his proclivities.   ?  :spy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-36788/Sophies-tapes-shame.html


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 10, 2017, 03:29:15 pm
Can I ask why are we dredging up Sophie´s misdemeanours from 16 years ago?  That article was originally printed 8 April 2001.  She has worked hard to put it behind her, and HM helped her along the way.  The scandal was then, the rf appear to have helped her move forward and become a working member of the rf and good friends with HM.  Why does she need to be "shamed" time and again, not really fair to her IMO.  She faced it, got on with it and has come through at the other end.  It seems very unkind to me that she gets it thrown up at her again. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on May 10, 2017, 03:36:50 pm
^ I agree GB. Sophie has learned long ago from her mistakes and it a contributing member of the RF. She does not defy the RF and HM. She does what she is supposed to do. She does not embarrass HM in any form or fashion. Unlike the Flashing, Unintelligent, Gurning Duchess of Cambridge that The Idiot Petulant Prince Willy Boy has inflicted upon the world.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: kolkomilko on May 10, 2017, 04:26:11 pm
^^ I agree with you.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: marion on May 10, 2017, 04:56:23 pm
As India says Sophie has learnt from her mistakes so time to move  on. Unlike waity who is so arrogant or thick and doesn't think she has to change or improve in anyway. With all  her crotch flashing etc she'd be better working in a strip  club than as a member of the RF.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on May 10, 2017, 04:58:03 pm
Because their past is their present. Same we complain about other princesses. Btw about the fake sheik she got caught if she had not she would still sell access to the RF for cash. Same as Fergie.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 10, 2017, 06:03:01 pm
^ With respect, I have to agree to disagree on that.  With no real point in dredging it up I personally see no need for it to be honest.  Not just Sophie, but I see no need to dredge these things up for anyone for no apparent reason.  Like her or dislike her, we all have a choice, no harm in that, but if there is no real reason for doing this to her at this point if she has turned the corner and moved forward, then it just seems pointless to me to rake it up for no good reason.  I don´t think she is the perfect royal wife, who is a perfect wife, royal or normal, everyday wife, but she has more to her than council cath or fergie will ever have, IMO.  With council cath she is always creating some drama, she is bone idle, she is vulgar, she is a lot of things, and yes, many of us, and others keep raking up her past, however, I personally feel she is mistress of her own fate and creates her own problems.  Sophie at least knew she had been caught, took the rap, and tried her best to move back into the family fold and be accepted again.  Council cath just keeps going on and getting worse, the gift that keeps giving to the Republic. 

Over and out from me on this thread, bye bye.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on May 10, 2017, 06:10:26 pm
But that is completely subjective. Some will say that Kate or Sofia or anyother has done their dues.

She has moved forward after being caught. If she had not she would be earning money in the same style.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: marion on May 10, 2017, 06:22:38 pm
Well, as we say in the UK, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, so I guess all our mistakes must be  our present as well.





Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 10, 2017, 07:28:54 pm
Why should Sophie be exempt?  All the other royals' pasts are brought up regularly.   Sophie has not changed her character one iota.  She simply is using different tactics.

Sophie is just like Fergie.  The difference is, Fergie was too open while Sophie keeps it close to the vest.  Also, the queen and Phil have protected Ed and Soph and thrown money and perks at them (I think because they were so happy to get Ed married), so Sophie has not had to struggle with much.  When Charles -- who doesn't like the Wessexes -- gains power, things will be different and Sophie will show her true colors.

And, let me add, I think she is not such a great mother -- the shameful way she dressed her daughter (I guess now the teen Louise is speaking out), and she seems to prefer to ignore James -- especially when cameras are about.  And it appears she and Ed lead separate lives now.  No surprise there, considering.

Sophie is in it for the money and the perks. She was willing to do anything to get it, and she has.  So, her character is always relevant, imo.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on May 10, 2017, 07:56:54 pm
Well, as we say in the UK, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, so I guess all our mistakes must be  our present as well.

We don't have a super privileged life payed by taxpayers. If you do something wrong in your job you will be fired. Well they cannot be fired so at least they should have some kind of obligations. Not selling their access due to birth or marriage should be quite basic.

I do not even think Sophie has done anything remarkable. She has done her job that's it. Being nice and attending events is not very hard.

If Andrew worked for x years and had "good behaviour" then what? Everything he did can be overlooked? Or even Fergie if she had stayed married.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 10, 2017, 08:54:40 pm
Sophie jet sets around and enjoys a fully luxurious life and I do not view her as holy because she's middle class born/bred and had a career. I for one do not think she's an exceptional mother and I do think she is way too well taken care of for the unremarkable work she does. I do also think that no matter what any of us think of Charles, he is the Heir and Sophie has no business mouthing off to him or trying to make herself a royal star. That role goes to the Heir and Sovereign and to a lesser level, the direct heirs. Not to the wife of a man who is so far down that kingship will never happen. I just dislike it.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Val on May 11, 2017, 05:36:57 am
^

In many polls she has been considered by far the best looking woman currently in the RF.   She has a naturally attractive face and excellent bone structure unlike pudgy faced botoxed Waity.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: marion on May 11, 2017, 07:32:58 am
And we haven't, thank the Lord, seen her lady bits either


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on May 11, 2017, 01:41:13 pm
Yes, I do agree. Sophie has very refined, aristocratic, natural features. I find her looks to be quite refreshing compared to the evolving looks of Council Cath. Poor Old Council Cath's face is constantly melting, pouching and sagging. Not a good look.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 11, 2017, 02:06:12 pm
^

In many polls she has been considered by far the best looking woman currently in the RF.   She has a naturally attractive face and excellent bone structure unlike pudgy faced botoxed Waity.


If this is the best looking woman the RF has to offer, then they ARE in trouble! 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/05/23/274D7C0F00000578-3026331-image-m-13_1428271475325.jpg

 lol


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Tatiana on May 12, 2017, 01:22:35 am
Because their past is their present. Same we complain about other princesses. Btw about the fake sheik she got caught if she had not she would still sell access to the RF for cash. Same as Fergie.
:thumbsup:

   Miss Hathaway   :tehe:

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Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: kolkomilko on May 12, 2017, 12:54:08 pm
None of them is perfect, th only difference is the mistakes they made and what they did for not making those again.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on May 12, 2017, 01:31:22 pm
Sophie does not repeat her mistakes. She learns from them and now she works hard. She is a contributing member of the RF. Council Cath is a serial exhibitionist. She gets a kick out of doing it. She constantly gives HM the middle finger. She is never prepared for her speeches and sounds like a complete a$$ with that ridiculous fake accent. She is incapable of intelligent, enlightened conversation. Her Fake Teeth and Hair are the joke of the world. She is a flat out embarrassment to the entire RF. And then we have what she did with her so called children. Go to Members Only section. She's a nightmare beyond belief.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 12, 2017, 02:38:32 pm
Council Cath's behavior has nothing to do with the discussion about Sophie Rhys Jones Wessex.

Sophie changed her ways after she sold out the RF via her PR company because she was forced to.   She had twittered to the sheikh that she would never be visiting hospitals and cutting ribbons like Diana (whom she hated with a ferocity simply because she wanted to BE Diana).  And then suddenly she was without her PR company and lo and behold she's running around doing the very things she made fun of Diana for doing.

She lied to the queen in that she was supposed to immediately step down and no longer be involved with her PR company but she continued to be a director and attend meetings, until the company finally went bankrupt  -- because it was only solvent while Sophie was using her royal connections -- and her company owed a lot of money to a lot of people.   Did she repay those debts?   Anyone know?

Does Sophie have a life other than her royal duties?   Diana was often photographed with girlfriends and doing things with her sons.  Sophie appears ill-at-ease with her children, particularly her son.  There are no photos of her out with girlfriends.  It seems her fun is in being a royal.  Because she is a climber who got lucky and is determined to make the most of it.

Likewise, Sophie's true character came out when she screeched at her bodyguard in the middle of a London street.  Couldn't even control herself until getting in a car or behind closed doors.   Imagine what does go on with Sophie behind closed doors if she lost it so badly in public in that fashion.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on May 12, 2017, 03:03:17 pm
The Countess of Wessex does the RF proud. She is a wonderful asset. The Queen loves her. She is an intelligent woman and knows how to put others at ease.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 12, 2017, 03:34:12 pm
No one knows Sophie Wessex is alive.  Sure, she is a background player, but frankly in this day and time the BRF needs a star.  It's the times we live in.  Sophie has never been and will never be a star.  No one in the USA other than us rabid royal followers even know who she is.   But America sure did know Diana and are familiar with Kate and William.   The BRF needs some star power to carry it through the Queen's passing.  They don't have one and especially not Sophie. All her grins and chatting will not save the monarchy.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Stargazer on May 12, 2017, 04:15:20 pm
Apart from HM the only person with the x factor in the RF is Hazza. Sophie is ok, then you've got Camzilla, Waity and possibly Meg. Not much of a choice with the women...


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 13, 2017, 04:39:06 am
The Heir is supposed to be the focus, after the Sovereign and that is how it is and should be. As for a star, the Windsors had Diana, but that ended up in a mess and now women don't need a prince to someone in their own right. They don't need Charles to be a celebrity or even noticed.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Val on May 13, 2017, 07:35:20 am
^

People have either got that magic star quality or they haven't, it can't be copied.  None of the remaining Royal women have it although they try.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 13, 2017, 07:53:15 am
I do think that the main problem is that they do try instead of being themselves. If Sophie did her duties and ran her household without trying to launch herself, I am certain that she would be run-on-the-mill royalty and she would be respected and the BRF wouldn't be getting into so many scandals. I believe that it's a shame that royals do cohabit; I dislike it because the ones who do want to cohabit will in fact be the users and impossible to dislodge. I do believe that there won't be a classy royal star for a long time and it won't come from the BRF.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: meememe on May 13, 2017, 08:05:37 am
The one thing that the BRF learnt from Diana is that they do NOT need a star or want one - other than the monarch themselves.

Even the way they are using the term 'Team Windsor' as those who are to step up to take on Philip's charities etc shows you that they are a 'team' and not an 'individual'.

The US needs stars but to the British it is all about the 'team' and that is how the BRF want to portray themselves - as a team - without one star who will outshine the others.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on May 13, 2017, 11:48:56 am
They may think they have a team but they don't. What they have with Billy Boy Medd, Council Cath and Hazza with his Meghan mess is one embarrassing disaster after another.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Val on May 13, 2017, 02:28:53 pm
^

There is no way the Monarchy can survive with that lot.  They are the Republican's secret weapon and to think that I was once the staunchest of Monarchists.  Its no surprise that Sophie is considered far superior then.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on May 13, 2017, 03:16:27 pm
^Absolutely Val!!!


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 13, 2017, 09:24:28 pm
Quote
The one thing that the BRF learnt from Diana is that they do NOT need a star or want one - other than the monarch themselves.

The BRF THOUGHT they did not want Diana the Star.  But they shot themselves in the foot with running her off.   They did need someone like her.   The queen is in a category by herself, but Charles doesn't relate to the average person and has no charisma or glamour.  And, yes, that is important in the 21st century.  Diana could have held the monarchy together after the queen's death.   Camilla certainly cannot.   Diana would have held William and Harry's feet to the fire and she would have made sure they married suitable women.   So the next generation would have been much better off had she lived and been the queen consort.   

There is no one to hold it together when the queen goes, and certainly not Sophie Rhys-jones.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on May 13, 2017, 09:30:38 pm
Better Sophie than the treasonous Council Cath.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: marion on May 13, 2017, 10:02:43 pm
Anyone's better than council cath but I agree Sophie would do a good job if Charles side lines her and Edward he's a fool... even if he pushes the lazies to work more they are so useless that they actually make matters worse.. they're damned if they do and damned  if they don't


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Tatiana on May 17, 2017, 03:49:09 am
  None of them are superior to anyone.  Except the Queen.   


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 17, 2017, 04:17:38 am
I think she forgets her place, her real place in the pecking order and I hope Charles brings her in line and orders her to downsize her lifestyle. Frankly, she had no business mouthing off to him and I do wonder if she will in fact be told that her services will no longer be welcomed or needed and she will start keeping her mouth shut and stop doing cloying interviews. None of these royal women have any business trying to compete with either HM or Charles to be the nation's darling. HM first and foremost and Charles should always come second and then the rest should work and stay out of trouble. I am certain that the media pandering needs to put a stop to and if Sophie starts smarting back at him Charles should strip her of her HRH. Certainly it's not like she has any business trying to build her own press faction and has no business grubbing about. Any kind of play against Charles is out of line, end of story.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: marion on May 17, 2017, 06:50:41 am
^^And in the eyes of God everyone is of equal value so ER is not superior to anyone


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Fly on the wall on May 19, 2017, 04:01:58 pm
Bottoms up! Countess of Wessex samples pint of ale at Devon County Show
http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/806392/countess-of-wessex-pint-ale-beer-devon-county-show-prince-edward-royals


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 24, 2017, 07:46:47 pm
Why Sophie is the unsung hero of the Royal Family: Low-key Countess of Wessex works tirelessly without any pomp and ceremony (and is always armed with a pair of sensible shoes)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5110555/Why-Sophie-Wessex-unsung-hero-Royal-Family.html#ixzz4zNdpvc7z
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Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 24, 2017, 09:42:34 pm
^ Dearie me!   Is Sophie feeling a bit left out what with all the "Kate-is-expecting" and "Meghan-is-moving-in" headlines?   So, she floats another of her tired old chestnuts:   "I'm A Safe Pair of Hands and the Queen's Favorite!"    Yes, same verse, wash, rinse, repeat.         Hahahahahahaha!   

Silly woman.  She's boring.  The media doesn't like her.   The public doesn't like her.  She can't get over the fact that she was never a Royal Cover Girl like Diana.   

 :James:



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on November 25, 2017, 03:58:50 am
Which I'm sure she thought she would be.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: buflesse on November 30, 2017, 09:46:44 pm
Sophie Wessex looks fresh in a crisp cream coat as she visits female inmates in a sewing workshop at Downview Prison

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5132557/Sophie-Wessex-meets-female-inmates-prison.html#ixzz4zxD1XoiO
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I love her. Not afraid to do the less glamorous engagements, and yes the coat is expensive but she's kept her look for the day plain and simple - showing sensitivity to the conditions around her. And she oozes warmth and compassion.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 01, 2017, 08:46:53 pm
^Totally agree  - I love her too, in fact a lot of people admire her, and the media are always there for her.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Little light on December 01, 2017, 09:29:08 pm
I like the style of coat but the colour seems too pale for her. It's as if it I should draining the colour from her face.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on December 02, 2017, 03:53:02 am
While Sophie isn't my most favorite Royal I do very much prefer her to Waity and Megs


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Little light on December 02, 2017, 12:34:18 pm
I completely agree.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: marion on December 02, 2017, 09:27:47 pm
ITA and she doesn't great every engagement as a fashion parade.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: deGuernsey on December 02, 2017, 09:30:11 pm
I agree


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Little light on December 02, 2017, 10:50:06 pm
One of the few things that annoy me about her is when the newspapers go on about her being HM's favourite. And I know this might be paper talk anyway.

Mind you with KM, Camz and now MM, there's not much to choose between them.

So she is probably more liked/tolerated by HM.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 04, 2017, 05:00:00 pm
^ Sophie had that last article about her Safe Pair of Hands put in the DM right before the engagement announcement.  Now it will be fun to see how she copies Meggles.   When Kate married in, Sophie grew out her hair, wore pony tails, decided to hit hockey pucks, etc.   When Harry was dating Cressida, Sophie put scrunchies in her hair.   What will she choose to copy from Meggles?  Oh, the fun of it all!!    :James:


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on December 05, 2017, 02:58:55 am
Sophie has a real problem not being the 'youngest' Royal woman.  :P


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on December 25, 2017, 07:45:38 pm
She looked ridiculous today.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on December 26, 2017, 03:19:27 am
I can't find a picture her today.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: buflesse on December 26, 2017, 10:58:36 am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/12/25/TELEMMGLPICT000149964797_1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqgAVVLDuigOMTJEj7-zptW76v4A2FBc0yBQ8FweGZIus.jpeg?imwidth=450 massively overdressed


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: YooperModerator on December 26, 2017, 11:07:31 am
^She managed to be over dressed and under dressed at the same time, considering the temperature and event.  I've never seen anyone do that before.  Yep.  Ridiculous is the right word.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: HRHOlya on December 26, 2017, 01:47:03 pm
^ Well put, can't believe someone manages to be over- and underdressed at the same time! Yikes, what an outfit.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 26, 2017, 03:30:22 pm
But this is Sophie.   She has always been ridiculous.   She had to do something to draw attention to herself, so she rode with the Queen on Sunday -- hasn't done that in years -- to remind us all that she is the Queen's favorite (as if anyone really cares).   And then she wears that ridiculous outfit yesterday knowing that people will at least comment negatively.  After all, negative attention is better than no attention.

And notice -- yet again! -- that she is not walking with her husband, her daughter or her son.   Nope.  All back there by herself, to try to get attention on herself.



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: HRHOlya on December 26, 2017, 03:37:24 pm
^ I too am sure that she was trying to grab some attention. There are younger (Waity, Eug, Bea) and newer members (Murkle), members who are growing up and stealing limelight (incl Louise!), and those further up the ladder who'll always get some space in the papers (Camz).


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 22, 2018, 06:46:31 pm
Countess of Wessex commissions a terminally ill photographer, 24, to take her new portrait - as he battles cancer caused by a condition that makes his skin blister at the slightest touch

The Countess of Wessex invited a young photographer battling terminal cancer to take her latest portrait, as part of a campaign to raise £500K to find a cure for his condition.

Sophie, 53, invited aspiring photographer James Dunn, 24, from Liverpool who has the skin condition Epidermolysis Bullosa (EB), to take her photo at Buckingham Palace last month.

The royal is patron of the charity DEBRA, which supports people suffering from the condition that causes skin to blister and tear at the slightest touch.

James is battling terminal cancer caused by the skin condition, and has lost part of his left arm, but is devoted to raising awareness of the disease.

The Countess said: 'As Royal Patron of the charity DEBRA I was delighted to help James pursue his passion for photography.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5532465/Countess-Wessex-commissions-terminally-ill-photographer.html#ixzz5AVMdmQxq
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Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 22, 2018, 08:10:48 pm
I think Sophie will have HM's favor since she's the least scandal ridden of the recent royal consorts and that counts for something.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on March 23, 2018, 01:27:36 am
^ It counts for a lot. She does her job happily with grace and class. No petulance and weird gesticulating. She knows her stuff.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: HRHOlya on July 01, 2018, 01:41:02 pm
Yes, she is the "perfect royal wife", because she's a waster like all the others:

Now it's Air Miles Sophie! Countess of Wessex saddles the taxpayer with a £3,000 bill by taking three helicopter trips to travel a total of just 87 miles

    Sophie, Countess of Wessex took three helicopter trips costing £3,000 to travel just 87 miles
    The flight came only hours before accounts revealed Royal travel cost the public £4.7 million last year
    John O’Connell, chief executive of the TaxPayers’ Alliance said the flights were uneccesary

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5905743/Countess-Wessex-takes-three-helicopter-trips-costing-3-000-travel-87-miles.html


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on July 02, 2018, 03:32:47 am
WOW!! How stupid is that?! I guess she's getting all she can while she can, because once Chucky is in charge, I would say all the perks will cease.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on July 02, 2018, 11:06:56 pm
Charles is going to need someone to do all the work. That Slattern The Potato Head surely is not going to lift her big hoof.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: marion on July 02, 2018, 11:25:50 pm
^And hopefully before too long murky will be back with you guys in the good old US of A so yes, Charles will need someone to help with the workload.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: CathyJane on July 03, 2018, 03:24:35 am
Good points. I can't see any of the 'younger' royals stepping up if they haven't already. Chucky may have to make do with Sophie, Eddie and the York sisters.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: meememe on July 03, 2018, 04:39:18 am
Charles won't use the York girls but he will continue to use his mother's cousins and his own siblings and Sophie. These people do a large amount of the work done by the BRF now and will be needed until the Cambridge children are adults so around another 25 - 30 years.

The York girls aren't going to be needed - any more than any future Sussex children will be.

Charles isn't going to suddenly cut down the size of the BRF. IF he is going to make it smaller it will happen over time with only the children of the heir being expected to work for The Firm and not the children of younger siblings.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: FrederickLouis on July 04, 2018, 02:31:16 am
^Would not the children of younger siblings participate in some royal functions to be come accustomed to royal duties?


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Rosella on July 04, 2018, 02:46:49 am
They probably won't be performing public duties in their future lives so won't need instruction. We don't know what the BRF will be like in another quarter of a century. Charlotte and Louis might also opt for a private life as adults.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Little light on July 04, 2018, 01:06:53 pm
I always find it odd that Charles wants to reduce the size of the monarchy yet has an office with more staff than HM!

It probably means more money and power for him. And/or he needs for his own giant ego and sense of entitlement.

And it’s my money as I’m a UK citizen. That makes me mad.

I never thought I’d say it, but it’s time for them to stand down. But they brought it on themselves.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: HRHOlya on July 04, 2018, 04:17:35 pm
^ "he needs for his own giant ego and sense of entitlement. "
This. So much.

" it’s time for them to stand down. But they brought it on themselves. "
Both statements: Big time.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: windsor2 on July 06, 2018, 02:42:41 am
Manchester terror attack survivor Freya Lewis, 15, is reunited with nurse she 'owes her life to' in service attended by Sophie Wessex to mark 70 years of the NHS
Manchester terror attack survivor Freya Lewis was pictured being reunited with the nurse who 'saved her life' in a service attended by Sophie Wessex marking 70 years of the NHS on Thursday.
Sophie was pictured greeting the 15-year-old survivor as she joined NHS staff and politicians at the service at Westminster Abbey.
The Countess of Wessex and the health secretary Jeremy Hunt joined NHS workers filing into the Abbey to hear speeches reflecting on the importance of the service - including one from Freya Lewis, and another from Olive Belfield, who worked as a nurse in the founding year, 1948.
Mr Hunt gave the first reading at the service, which included a message from prime minister Theresa May.
Celebrations were taking place around the country today, to mark 70 years since the former health minister Aneurin Bevan founded the health service on July 5, 1948. 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5920991/Sophie-Wessex-attends-service-celebrate-70th-anniversary-NHS-Westminster-Abbey.html



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on July 09, 2018, 05:46:01 pm
Sophie has always been fond of flashing her cleavage to children, bless her!

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/05/15/4DF2F8EB00000578-5920991-image-a-2_1530799966475.jpg



Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: india on July 09, 2018, 07:18:58 pm
^I don't consider that flashing.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: BostonLibby on July 10, 2018, 02:35:10 pm
 I like the color of her dress for a summer outing. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on July 10, 2018, 06:17:31 pm
^^ When she knows that she is going to be greeting children (i.e., bending over) and chooses a low cut dress so that they can see all the way to Cleveland when she bends over, then that is inappropriate clothing for that particular occasion, in my opinion.   Why does she inevitably wear low cut tops when she is with kids?   Odd woman.

^  Yes, I love that color green, and it looks good on her.  Too low cut for that occasion, however. 


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: Alexandrine on July 10, 2018, 09:54:34 pm
Sophie sometimes wears too tight clothes and too much skin.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: BostonLibby on July 11, 2018, 01:19:56 pm
^ and ^^  Yes, too much skin.  The neckline is too low and too wide.  The color is the only thing I like about it.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: sanka on March 10, 2019, 05:30:09 am
Sophie attended an International Women's Day event

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6785699/Countess-Wessex-opens-London-Stock-Exchange-chairs-Women-Network-forum.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6785699/Countess-Wessex-opens-London-Stock-Exchange-chairs-Women-Network-forum.html)

In my opinion that dress Sophie is wearing is terrible.


Title: Re: Countess of Wessex: The Perfect Royal Wife?
Post by: buflesse on March 10, 2019, 10:10:22 am
It's not the most flattering dress, but it's not tacky, she's not showing loads of skin, she's not flaunting her body, and she seems genuinely engaged and passionate about the cause. A far better ambassador for the RF than Meggles.