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Title: The Spencer Family
Post by: karla64 on February 15, 2011, 02:54:17 pm
I don't know where I should put into forum??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1357198/Earl-Spencer-wed-charity-worker.html


Title: Re: Prince William's uncle Earl Spencer engaged to charity worker
Post by: benign on February 15, 2011, 03:56:50 pm
Congratulations to them  :stars: cant believe he never gets tired of proposing  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince William's uncle Earl Spencer engaged to charity worker
Post by: Magnolia on February 15, 2011, 07:24:06 pm
She is soo pretty but,I say run Karen ruuunnn.


Title: Re: Prince William's uncle Earl Spencer engaged to charity worker
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 15, 2011, 09:10:42 pm
waht a pity. i bet carole wuld LOVE to have married Diana's brother and become Countess Spencer. or Pippa.

Or if one wanted ot be REALLY MODERN, Earl Spencer could have married JAMES


Title: Re: Prince William's uncle Earl Spencer engaged to charity worker
Post by: Earth Angel on February 15, 2011, 10:51:38 pm
Oy Vey! This guy bounces from one to another at lightning speed! Is he co-dependent or something?! It seems he cannot ever be without a woman to call his own. ... Until he wants to try out the next one he finds interesting!


Title: Re: Prince William's uncle Earl Spencer engaged to charity worker
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 16, 2011, 12:26:22 am
Possibly just unstable. I bet Carole would calm him right down, with her iron grip.


Title: Re: Prince William's uncle Earl Spencer engaged to charity worker
Post by: TAG Princess on February 16, 2011, 08:33:57 pm
Congratulations to Earl Spencer and his fiancée, hope this time is the real deal.  :loveshower:


Title: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on March 04, 2011, 12:02:59 am
Wasn't sure where to post this, but she is Diana's niece, Lady Amelia Spencer appeared in court in Cape Town again, her case was adjourned, there were quite a few paps at the court waiting for her...

Articles: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362550/Princess-Dianas-niece-Lady-Amelia-court-McDonalds-queue-attack.html
http://www.timeslive.co.za/entertainment/article947909.ece/Princes-cousin-in-dock
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8219477/princess-dianas-niece-denies-mcdonalds-assault
mugshot: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/03/article-1362550-0D73D18B000005DC-514_634x424.jpg

Photos:
http://photo.wenn.com/index.php?action=quicksearch&ppid=137557&version=caf
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=amelia+spencer&assetType=image
http://www.galloimages.co.za/Search?q=amelia+spencer&a=3&st=2


Title: Re: Princess Diana's Niece, Lady Amelia Spencer in Court
Post by: benign on March 04, 2011, 12:11:11 am
^thanks...a humiliating experience but lesson to be learned also.


Title: Re: Princess Diana's Niece, Lady Amelia Spencer in Court
Post by: Kahleigh on April 01, 2011, 02:40:44 pm
She has been cleared of all charges.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372313/Princess-Dianas-niece-escapes-punishment-court-drops-charges-assault.html
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Princess Diana's niece was today told criminal charges against her had been dropped after she was accused of drunkenly assaulting a man on crutches.
Lady Amelia Spencer, 18, was charged last year with assault after a man claimed she had flicked a cigarette at him before kicking him during a row outside a McDonald's restaurant.
But during a short hearing in Cape Town, South Africa, she was told prosecutors had agreed to drop the case after deciding there was insufficient evidence against her.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23937610-princess-dianas-niece-cleared-of-assaulting-man-on-crutches-at-mcdonalds.do
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Asked if she was relieved the charges were dropped, she said "Yes".
Today her father, Earl Spencer, said: "Amelia has found it very tough, knowing she is not guilty but having the charges against her trumpeted around the world as if she were. Now she has been totally vindicated and I am thrilled for her" Her lawyer William Booth said: "She has been traumatised by this case. The story and pictures of her have featured in magazine and newspapers all around the world, even when the case was not on. If she was an ordinary person, she would not have received this level of coverage. She has been emotionally affected by all this."
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/article998830.ece/Dis-niece-escapes-assault-charge


Title: Re: Princess Diana's Niece, Lady Amelia Spencer in Court
Post by: karla64 on April 01, 2011, 06:10:19 pm
Lucky......


Title: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: mousiekins on May 07, 2011, 12:40:18 am
OK, so I had no idea where to post these and this was the most logical

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1384440/The-Earls-girls-Immaculately-coiffed-turned-heads-Abbey-week-But-home-South-Africa-Dianas-nieces-VERY-racy-streak.html


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Lauracrazygirl on May 07, 2011, 10:58:53 am
Look, I don't think the daily mail as anyright to pick on these girls. They are not public figures, leave them be. And BTW these pictures are tame compeared to the middletons party antics.


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Yooper on May 07, 2011, 02:27:12 pm
I agree.  I've seen worse on my own very youngest son's Facebook page.  But, then, he's the partier in the group.  There's always one.  The Middletons have more than the average in that department.


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: royal_watcher05 on May 07, 2011, 03:52:44 pm
They do not look that bad. I mean I've seen a lot worse on friends' and family memebers' FB pages. Lots of younger people go through a partying phase. No need to bash everyone and that comment about thier mom being a recovering alcoholic why not just drag everyone through the mud?


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Yooper on May 07, 2011, 04:07:05 pm
No, they don't look that bad at all. More sloppy journalism.  I'm beginning to think these writers are on drugs or raging alkies themselves.
 


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Nighthawk on May 07, 2011, 04:08:40 pm
I'm thinking the journalist have a great connection to UG's drug ring I've been saying that these people are high on drugs for years :unsure: :P


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Sidney on May 08, 2011, 12:09:06 am
Tacky but nothing out of the ordinary. I'm used to seeing this kind of behaviour (and much wosre) on some of my friends' FB accounts. Someone mentioned Pippa Middleton's pictures. I don't think her pictures are worse than these ones. Quite similar, actually. The difference seems to be that Pippa is being used as a means to crucify her sister (because, according to some, that's not a decent behaviour for someone related to the BRF) and yet nobody seems to have a problem with William being related to people who behave the very same way. Is that the media and their double standards what I'm seeing? Maybe.


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Raisie on May 08, 2011, 12:14:09 am
Look, I don't think the daily mail as anyright to pick on these girls. They are not public figures, leave them be. And BTW these pictures are tame compeared to the middletons party antics.
I agree with you,what the Daily is doing? showing that the Midds act like the Aristos? still they better watch out because the Midds or Kate might not be private people but this girls are and they can sue the daily for this and sure they can because they might not be public but they are Aristocrats and do have contacts.



Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Lanvin Pearls on May 09, 2011, 02:33:47 am
I saw this and was going to post it too.

I don't mean to sound like a prude but I thought these photos were disgusting. (Has FB really allowed this drunken behavior to become acceptable now ??)

I NEVER should have posted (on another thread) that I thought Lady Kitty was "beautiful". I guess I ONLY saw one photo. Now ? They all look like streetwalkers IMO.

If only these young people KNEW the dangers of alcohol (and/or drugs) . My God, their own MOTHER had a severe problem, so why didn't they learn from that ?

Tragic family. Those girls are really STARVED for attention.   


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 09, 2011, 03:13:00 am
Quote
Those girls are really STARVED for attention.   


Yeah, since Daddy is too busy with a new wifey.


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: mousiekins on May 09, 2011, 04:49:50 am
LV there is no evidence to suggest the drink large amounts or have ever taken drugs.

They are posting pics which unfortunately are not uncommon for many girls nowadays


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 09, 2011, 11:24:36 am
This is just to make Kate look good; after all, each time something critical about Kate comes out, it's balanced with a critical story about someone else.


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: serene grace on May 09, 2011, 04:09:03 pm
It's ashame that the DailyMail is trying to destroy every Aristo or Royal's repuation around William  in order to puff up the Socialclimbing Middleton family.

First the UK Press, tried to put down William's former friends & girlfriends some from Aristo backgrounds in order to puff up mediocre, unaccomplish, lazy-(WAG-sleeping her way to the Top,imo) Kate Middleton.

2nd the Daily Mail has been putting down all aspects of Diana Princes of Wales (and her accomplishments) in every article (imo-because Kate is so mediocre and unaccomplished) when discussing Kate's new royal role.

Now the DMail is putting down the family of the Beloved Princess of Wales (the Spencer family )and trying to ruin the reputations of the very Aristocratic Spencer girls, these girls are young, just starting out in their lives, they are a decade younger than Kate. These girls don't deserve this shoddy treatment by the UK Press-loving Middleton MOUTHPIECE-The Daily Mail.

I remember on news chatter the  day after Pr.William's wedding , one of the US News anchor's remarked how lovely Diana's neices, The Earl Spencer's daughter's were, but British reporter hardly acknowledged them, and went right back to puffing up plain Kate and Pippa. Yawwwwn.

The UK press should tell the truth about all the photos of Kate and Pippa drinking and doing whatever else they got up to over the years, instead of being a Public relations Mouthpiece for building up the Middleton's public image, while working hard on tearing down others.

IMO The Middleton's are TRASH(and that includes Kate) and they will bring one scandal after another(but it will be  IGNORED by the UK Press) until something so big comes out about the Middleton's, that it's going to be hard to ignore.



Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 09, 2011, 06:03:16 pm
And then, Kate and Co. wonder why they don't get invites to the estates of the aristocracy or ever gentry.


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Yooper on May 09, 2011, 06:08:18 pm
 :thumbsup: Serene Grace.

The hype, to be honest, is getting to me in a large way and don't know how much longer I can hang in there.  Nothing is going to stop this lionizing of the least person deserving, at least I don't see it.  It's like a PR Mission to make her St. Catherine.  And it's just so unfair to stomp on others to do it. 


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: danifaul on May 09, 2011, 08:43:50 pm
''And BTW these pictures are tame compeared to the middletons party antics.''

i agree  :thumbsup:

James and Chelsy  :wopedo:  are the worst(pics on facebook).


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: mousiekins on May 09, 2011, 10:59:53 pm
Chelsy's pics should not be in the same sentence as James.

Chelsy does not show her privates to the internet or play with dead animals, just for starters.

Chelsy's pics are in the same league as the Spencer girls and no worse.


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 10, 2011, 06:10:27 am
It's no wonder that the Spencer family now primarily live in South Africa. The British media is getting out of control and since they've gotten Kate in, it's like they are now trying to wreck the lives of anyone they might see as a threat to their darling. Is the British media a new arm of the government now?


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: Yooper on May 10, 2011, 06:37:40 am
Danifaul?  How much to get that pic of UG off your banner?  It's soooooooo gross.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on May 10, 2011, 11:03:11 am
I merged two topics about Diana's nieces and made a general topic for the Spencer family, it is also a sticky so it can be find easily.

I hope you like the idea  :flower:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Mia on May 10, 2011, 11:17:25 am
It's no wonder that the Spencer family now primarily live in South Africa. The British media is getting out of control and since they've gotten Kate in, it's like they are now trying to wreck the lives of anyone they might see as a threat to their darling. Is the British media a new arm of the government now?

They don't live primarily in South Africa anymore. Earl Spencer moved back to UK after he divorced Victoria Lockwood in 1997. She stayed there and the kids too because she had the custudy. Kitty moved to London a couple of years where she live on/off, her sisters and brother are still in SA... The other members of the Spencer family (Diana's sisters) live in UK...


Title: Re: The other side of the Earl's girls
Post by: danifaul on May 10, 2011, 03:47:43 pm
Chelsy's pics should not be in the same sentence as James.

Chelsy does not show her privates to the internet or play with dead animals, just for starters.
you're right. :me2you: are not the same 'level '

Chelsy's pics are in the same league as the Spencer girls and no worse.

 :-X http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/06/article-1384440-0BF037E500000578-164_634x792.jpg
pics how:
wearing only the blazer, women holding her breasts, hinting, licks, drinking or smoking  :wopedo:


Danifaul?  How much to get that pic of UG off your banner?  It's soooooooo gross.
:hello: Yooper
ok, no problem


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: mousiekins on May 10, 2011, 11:50:03 pm
It's no wonder that the Spencer family now primarily live in South Africa. The British media is getting out of control and since they've gotten Kate in, it's like they are now trying to wreck the lives of anyone they might see as a threat to their darling. Is the British media a new arm of the government now?

They don't live primarily in South Africa anymore. Earl Spencer moved back to UK after he divorced Victoria Lockwood in 1997. She stayed there and the kids too because she had the custudy. Kitty moved to London a couple of years where she live on/off, her sisters and brother are still in SA... The other members of the Spencer family (Diana's sisters) live in UK...

They split there time living in SA during the school year and here in the UK during the holidays.
Kitty has been in Uni in SA since she was 18 and is about to finish and do a Masters in SA
The twins will be starting Uni in SA this September.



Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on May 11, 2011, 01:39:57 am
^ Actually the twins began university in SA at the beginning of this year, as the South African academic year begins at the start of the year.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 11, 2011, 01:46:24 am
One undoubted thing I know is that this family is relentlessly ambitious.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: mousiekins on May 11, 2011, 02:25:41 am
^ Actually the twins began university in SA at the beginning of this year, as the South African academic year begins at the start of the year.

Yes I realised my mistake just now.  :shy:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: danifaul on May 19, 2011, 03:21:29 am
EARL SPENCER and KAREN GORDON at a gala evening in aid of Ubuntu Education Fund held at Battersea Power Station, London on 4th May 2011.

http://dfeatures.thirdlight.com/viewpicturepreview.tlx?z=1&albumid=301097&pictureid=15282340
http://dfeatures.thirdlight.com/viewpicturepreview.tlx?z=1&albumid=301097&pictureid=15282343


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Yooper on May 19, 2011, 03:55:25 am
One undoubted thing I know is that this family is relentlessly ambitious.

It occurs to me, KF, that ambition is a good thing, but with all this goofiness in titles a severely undeserving, in some cases, within the aristocratic and monarchy setup, that if you removed that and used the ambition to develop a business or further your career, you'd actually be doing something instead of who gets to stand up or sit down first.  It's silly, to me.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 25, 2011, 08:59:42 pm
I'm of the view that ambition is healthy, but not when it crosses over into the personal sphere of life. One thing to be professionally determined, but it's quite another when you end up sacrificing your own family members on the altar of your desires and they pay the price while you reap the glory.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on June 18, 2011, 02:10:30 pm
phildampier phil dampier
Earl Spencer getting married today - yet again! Don't put money on it lasting.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Dahlia on June 18, 2011, 03:55:48 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2005171/Earl-Spencer-marries-time-small-ceremony-Althorp.html

A picture of the bride and bridegroom


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Nighthawk on June 18, 2011, 03:57:51 pm
hopefully this marriage will work out for him this time, can always hope

thanks for the Article

btw i liked the Brides wedding dress much better than the one the press seems to be comparing it too.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Princess Alucard on June 18, 2011, 06:58:40 pm
Is it just me or is his  forehead getting bigger?   :-


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 19, 2011, 12:10:07 am
She seems classy and not flakey like his past two wives. Marrying Victoria Lockwood was a huge mistake and she sounds like the charitable type.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: YooperModerator on June 19, 2011, 12:39:40 am
@ PA: methinks his hairline has reclined just a little over the years :whistle:
as far as I know the only thing that keep on growing for the rest of your life are your nose and ears ! :James: (I bet PC had a 'doh!'-moment when he heard that!  :tehe: :P)


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on June 23, 2011, 01:45:33 pm
Earl Spencer's charitable act for his new bride

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2006999/RICHARD-KAY-Earl-Spencers-charitable-act-new-bride.html#ixzz1Q6QfqEyf


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on November 23, 2011, 11:57:16 am
Diana’s beloved niece Emily McCorquodale finds love after cancer scare

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/8908003/Dianas-beloved-niece-Emily-McCorquodale-finds-love-after-cancer-scare.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Duchess Georgiana on November 27, 2011, 04:39:31 am
The new Countess Spencer is Karen Gordon, a Canadian born philanthropist. Looking at his terrible history with women, I do hope she didn't make a mistake. Third time is not always the charm, unfortunately. I look at his face and 'yuk' is what comes to mind.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on February 03, 2012, 08:20:57 am
Earl and Countess Spencer have a new baby due in July! Seventh child for the Earl, third for the countess. Congratulations to them!

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/althorp_reveals_earl_spencer_s_wife_is_expecting_new_baby_1_3476926
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EARL Spencer and his new wife, Countess Karen Spencer, have announced they are expecting a baby together.
The couple revealed that Countess Spencer is 16 weeks pregnant and ‘feeling great’.
“We’re all very excited and, just delighted about it.”
The Earl, who will become a father of seven, said: “We’re delighted, particularly my five-year-old daughter, Lara, who’s very excited to no longer be the baby of the family.”
It will be Countess Spencer’s third child, with two daughters from her previous marriage to producer Mark Gordon.
The Earl had four children with his first wife, Victoria Lockwood, including 21-year-old Lady Kitty, twins Lady Eliza and Lady Amelia, who are both 19, and son Louis, Viscount Althorp, who is 17. With his second wife, Caroline Freud, he had two children, Lord Edmund Spencer, who is eight, and Lady Lara, who is five.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Jane23 on February 03, 2012, 09:55:30 am
^Congratulations a baby is always good news   :newyear:.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on February 03, 2012, 03:17:51 pm
 :o


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: christina01 on April 12, 2012, 12:40:17 am
IMO Charles Spencer has mental problems. He has obviously been affected by his weird upbringing. To me his new bride already looks as though she has had work done on her face. She slightly resembles the infamous 'cat woman', already.  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: berlin on April 12, 2012, 01:06:50 am
So how many kids will he have with his next wife? 


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: christina01 on April 12, 2012, 01:20:57 am
Lord knows, but I find it almost revolting. I know babies are good news generally, but IMO his other kids need his attention more so than bringing another child into his life. I bet this marriage is over by the time the kid is one  :spy: Another screwed up kid :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Prince William's uncle Earl Spencer engaged to charity worker
Post by: serene grace on April 12, 2012, 01:28:18 am
waht a pity. i bet carole wuld LOVE to have married Diana's brother and become Countess Spencer. or Pippa.

Or if one wanted ot be REALLY MODERN, Earl Spencer could have married JAMES

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

The Spencer family must  be quite wealthy, Earl Spencer must be astute with money to keep Althorp and all the children he seeded from various wives. Aristocratic industrious money and American heiress money from one of the Great Grandmother' I hear?  :-


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: June on April 12, 2012, 04:38:04 am
Lord knows, but I find it almost revolting. I know babies are good news generally, but IMO his other kids need his attention more so than bringing another child into his life. I bet this marriage is over by the time the kid is one  :spy: Another screwed up kid :thumbsdown:

I agree christina.  :hug:

It's a bit simplistic IMO to just say all positive things because it's a new baby. Yes, it's a blessing, but that is not the whole point. Life is about practicality as much as sentiment, if not more. His grown-up children seem to be a bit wayward and directionless, which is a great pity.

He will now have 3 different families; 7 children to 3 women? How is that a blessing to the children?  :sigh: He's hardly a role model ...

I don't have a strong feeling about this man one way or another, but his history presents him as an insensitive swine.

His wife is very pretty, her features are classic, but yes, she does look a bit "enhanced", to be kind.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: christina01 on April 12, 2012, 09:13:30 am
I think he is revolting. He was ok when he was younger, in the looks department, but boy has he aged badly. William does look like him unfortunately. He is a sleaze of the first order, and an ahole I am sure.  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Acornia on April 12, 2012, 12:40:14 pm
He probably won't stop marrying/divorcing women and making them pop babies until the day he dies.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on April 12, 2012, 03:07:44 pm
There certainly will be plenty of Spencer offspring to carry on the Aristocratic Spencer family line, that's for sure.
 :bored:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on April 12, 2012, 05:58:32 pm
He must have some kind of emotional baggage that let's him think that marrying and having kids is the only thing he should do. I don't know maybe he thinks that    he can try again and do it correctly this time?  ???

Ok I will stop with the pop psychology.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Tatiana on April 12, 2012, 06:11:17 pm


   IMHO .. the only decent thing he has ever done was that speech at his sister's funeral.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on April 12, 2012, 06:20:47 pm
He's an amazing speaker and I throughly enjoyed his work as a journalist/commentator on NBC Today show over the years, but I found the funeral speech way too vitriolic for my taste. A friend and I, who are both avid Diana fans watched the funeral and despite the applauds and accolades ,we were both turned-off by the speech. It was well done, delivered well,but some of the content made me squeemish, it was like watching the Hatfields and McCoys in a brawl, but to be fair, I would have probably been fighting in the back of the church if it was my sis and been thrown out of the service.  :spy:  :bat:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: christina01 on April 12, 2012, 10:21:46 pm
I think too we also have to look at the fact that emotions were running very high with him when he wrote the speech. He was suffering grief, and I remember seeing an interview with him later where he stated that once he realised that it was down to him to actually make the speech, (due to his father already being dead, and he being the only male member of he immediate family), he had to sit down and write it up rather quickly. He would have been suffering all the emotions of normal grief, but also anger with the royal family, etc etc.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on April 13, 2012, 12:10:18 am
Totally true, I know I would have been a basket case, probably lashing out at anything in my path, or in the back of the service ,heavily sedated.  :sob:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: christina01 on April 13, 2012, 06:06:23 am
Agreed Serene. I will give him scope for having done the speech, but I guess it's true that hindsight is a wonderful thing. I'm quite sure there were some things he wrote that even he might regret slightly. However, I don't know how I would have reacted either.  :sigh:


Title: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: Mooster on April 16, 2012, 01:19:29 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130267/Princess-Dianas-niece-Celia-McCorquodale-drinking.html

They are not the sort of poses her aunt Princess Diana would have dared to strike for the cameras.
However, like the rest of today’s social networking generation, Celia McCorquodale is clearly not noted for her discretion



Seems funny we get this after the James sleazy cake story, the stripper cousin and Pippa frolicking with French Aristos  :-X


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: Dahlia on April 16, 2012, 01:26:11 am
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/15/article-0-129AF69C000005DC-694_634x431.jpg

 :laugh: Sorry


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: serene grace on April 16, 2012, 01:42:12 am
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Ha!


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: benign on April 16, 2012, 02:24:40 am
so whats the point of this article again? does DM think that the public doesnt know what they are doing? it looks like Celia had lots of fun and she did without any help from her cousin William unlike JM who thinks he is somebody when he is not...


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: serene grace on April 16, 2012, 08:49:28 am
Notice how the DailyMail puts down EVERYONE around the Royal Family who is NOT Kate or a Middleton. It's sickening, the way they keep trying to damage the Aristo women in the Royal Family or those related to it. They always bash the Spencer girls, Princesses Beatrice , Eugenie,Sophie (Chelsy too when they can) now they are trying to ruin the reputation of this young lady. It's horrible how the Daily Mail has an agenda. IMO


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: christina01 on April 16, 2012, 09:35:22 am
 :laugh: I find this hilarious. Just because she is Diana's niece, doesn't mean she can't have some fairly harmless fun IMO.


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: Jane23 on April 16, 2012, 09:10:01 pm
The Daily Fail at it's finest  :ick:...


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: Alexandrine on April 16, 2012, 09:16:37 pm
so what? she doesn't have a public role nor she is a role model... DM don't you remember those photos of William with an outrageous outfit?  :legs


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: YooperModerator on April 16, 2012, 09:44:30 pm
You mean the ones where he dancing on the table in his boxers with a feather boa around his neck? :devil:
http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i462/akasha2411/Pics%20of%20William/dancingqueen.jpg


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: Alexandrine on April 16, 2012, 09:56:59 pm
doesn't he look distinguished   :flirt:


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: YooperModerator on April 16, 2012, 10:22:35 pm
Yes so stylish and gentleman like!  :sigh:


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: Jane23 on April 16, 2012, 11:05:42 pm
 lmao


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: YooperModerator on April 16, 2012, 11:19:47 pm
^ yeah so did he


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: Jane23 on April 17, 2012, 08:36:57 am
The picture is priceless  lol.


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: Mooster on April 17, 2012, 01:52:22 pm
I can imagine Princess Diana would have had hysterics at that picture as well  :tehe:


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: sandy on April 17, 2012, 02:57:38 pm
The press protected Will in the UK so the photo only appeared in America. There was an "agreement" in the UK to keep the embarrassing pics of Will out of the papers. He was described as being clad only in a loincloth at his OUt of Africa party then at another party he showed up in a skin tight Lion King outfit accompanied by Pelly dressed as the Queen in Drag. I wonder if these will be shown in the US eventually.


Title: Re: Celia McCorquodale
Post by: Magnolia on April 25, 2012, 03:23:30 am
That must have been some party there were naked guys all around too.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on July 02, 2012, 08:52:28 pm
A new cousin for Harry and William and a SEVENTH child for Earl Spencer, as his third wife counts down the days to her due date

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2167780/A-new-cousin-Harry-William-Earl-Spencers-wife-pregnant-fifth-child.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on July 02, 2012, 11:20:11 pm
 :thankyou: for that article Alexandrine!
DailyMail not checking facts again, they got nearly all of the Earl's first four children's names wrong!
Quote
Earl Spencer, who is worth a reported £120m - already has four children by ex-wife Victoria Lockwood - Eleanor, 21, twins Victoria and Amelia, 19, and son John, 18.
Lady Kitty Eleanor is 21, Eliza Victoria and Katya Amelia will turn 20 next week, that was one they got correct as Katya goes by her second name, Amelia, and his eldest son's name is Louis Frederick John! not that hard to google DM! Their names are Kitty, Eliza, Amelia and Louis!

They contradict themselves in the article
Quote
It will be the Earl's seventh child - and comes a full 18 years after the birth of his first baby.
Then further down they say his eldest is 21, that would be 21 years after his first baby! 18 years is no where near correct, considering after July 10 (twins birthday) he has three daughters in their 20's!

Quote
The Royal Family is poised to welcome a new member into its ranks as the third wife of Earl Spencer counts down the days until her due date.
They are not part of the Royal Family, his sister married into the royal family, not him! The aristocratic Spencer family is poised to welcome a new member DM!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on August 05, 2012, 06:49:42 am
Earl Spencer and his 3rd wife, Countess Spencer recently welcomed a daughter! Lady Charlotte Diana Spencer is the seventh child for the Earl and the third daughter for the Countess. Congratulations to them!  :)  :flower:
Pic of the parents and baby Charlotte: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/05/article-2183882-1461B9C0000005DC-704_468x827.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2183882/KATIE-NICHOLLS-DIARY-Spencers-joy-Althorp-sees-birth-1793.html
Quote
Earl Spencer and his third wife are celebrating their own special Olympic moment – the birth of their daughter, Lady Charlotte Diana Spencer.
The couple’s first child was born at Althorp, the Spencer family home, last Monday, weighing 8lb 14oz. She is the first Spencer baby to be born at the ancestral pile since 1793.
He said: ‘She’s adorable – another feisty little Spencer girl. We hadn’t settled on a first name before the birth, but Charlotte is a name we both loved, and it really suits her. We knew that as soon as we saw her.
‘And, though it’s been 15 years since Diana died, I still miss her every day, and I very much wanted her commemorated in the naming of our daughter.’


Title: Earl Spencer has a new daughter
Post by: Mooster on August 05, 2012, 12:48:22 pm
Royal Forum *fools*‏@RoyalForumMoron

“@phildampier: Earl Spencer has new daughter Lady Charlotte Diana.” DIANA!!!!


 :loveshower:  congratulations


Title: Re: Earl Spencer has a new daughter
Post by: Leila on August 05, 2012, 01:20:59 pm
It's already been posted here. http://royalgossip.forumprofi.de/index.php/topic,1013.msg127015.html#msg127015  :flower:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: YooperModerator on August 05, 2012, 03:47:17 pm
Dang this Charley must like the smell of diaper's and bottled milk a lot!  :tehe:
That's kiddo nr 7!
But then again it's wife nr3 so..
Name is a nice touch, and it's a good thing it's a second name rather then the first!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on August 05, 2012, 08:37:42 pm
Quote
Earl Spencer and his third wife are celebrating their own special Olympic moment – the birth of their daughter, Lady Charlotte Diana Spencer.

The couple’s first child was born at Althorp, the Spencer family home, last Monday, weighing 8lb 14oz. She is the first Spencer baby to be born at the ancestral pile since 1793.
Earl Spencer, 47, pictured with the radiant Countess Spencer, 39, and their daughter, was present at the birth and tells me he is delighted to be a father for the seventh time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2183882/KATIE-NICHOLLS-DIARY-Spencers-joy-Althorp-sees-birth-1793.html


Lady Charlotte Diana Spencer, beautiful name.  :flirt:

Congratulations.  :loveshower:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Grace on August 05, 2012, 10:26:55 pm
Lovely name! :hug:

(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc454/grace381/welcome%20and%20hi/011_new_baby.gif)
Congratulations!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on August 05, 2012, 10:30:37 pm
His new wife is so pretty.

The name is also beautiful. Hope it lasts for him this time!


Title: LADY SARAH MCCORQUODALE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING SOME FREE TIME
Post by: fyeah_harryshotabs on October 14, 2012, 07:46:21 am
LADY SARAH MCCORQUODALE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING SOME FREE TIME - Adam Helliker, Sunday Express (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/351982/Lady-Sarah-McCorquodale-can-look-forward-to-having-some-free-time)
Quote
EVER since the death of her sister Diana, Lady Sarah McCorquodale has had to spend much of her time fretting over the accounts of the charity that was set up in the Princess’s memory. Now, as its president, Sarah can look forward to some free time when the Diana Memorial Fund is wound up in December.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on October 19, 2012, 08:04:42 am
Earl Spencer and eldest child Lady Kitty Spencer spotted having coffee in North London September 12, 2012.
http://www.spokeo.com/Lady+Kitty+Eleanor+Spencer+1/Sep+12+2012+Charles+Spencer+And+Earl+Spencer+Out+And+About+With+His+Daughter+Lady+Kitty+Spencer


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on October 19, 2012, 10:00:05 am
Nice to see she is close to her father the Earl Spencer.

I almost didn't recognize her.  ???


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on October 19, 2012, 12:16:16 pm
she is very pretty but reminds me somewhat of Fergie


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Mooster on October 19, 2012, 01:14:45 pm
What a lump!!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Stephanie on October 19, 2012, 03:51:59 pm
All the Spencer girls are beautiful, like Diana
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRx1dqziYcBppaKOelZI45UwMuFzrbDvDCcBWSvTB6woeBFgwm6
Must have strong genes.
PW has a Spencer face too but unfortunately he inherited PC's baldness.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRSvYaFAgLO0pI8UitMWLCimvpztERJsJGV_1yuyHqqtbIFUJCP


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on October 19, 2012, 04:01:45 pm
Bald gene comes from mother's female side. Earl Spencer, Diana's father was balding on top.
http://cdn.dipity.com/uploads/events/2a87c2c5886559b44ce13d32a71cb016_1M.png

I see a lot of Harry in the current Earl Spencer too.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Stephanie on October 19, 2012, 04:12:15 pm
His hair color certainly comes from the Spencer side.
I always thought PH is a dead ringer for Prince Philip.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRUpnQ4ljmPfxofSSwjJKFHdLla1_waCaGHnKmHE7JSGJmuu2ph
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYup63QFYLzqymOlQWWP3LmzJJy8CLx5oALBVhtq7qHxrZBo7S



Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on October 19, 2012, 05:57:03 pm
Phillip was hawt when he was young.  :flirt:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Spice on October 19, 2012, 09:14:56 pm
Kitty Spencer is beautiful, and I'm pleased that the platinum blonde x 3 was only for the Cambridge wedding!

However, and don't shoot me for saying this, she needs to lose a little bit of weight.  Or avoid wearing tight jeans.  Overweight is unhealthy, something I found out for sure when I succumbed to illness because of my weight.  Earl Spencer is also overweight, which is worse for a male, and someone his age.

I find it curious that Kitty is overweight, when her mother Victoria struggled with anorexia and is now healthy.  Kitty wasn't overweight earlier in life, so I wonder if it's related to a medical condition or medications.  I hope she gets healthier.

Nice to see father and daughter spending time together.  Must be quite a job for him spending quality time with all seven of his children.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on October 20, 2012, 12:59:16 pm
I agree.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on December 09, 2012, 08:34:18 am
However, and don't shoot me for saying this, she needs to lose a little bit of weight.  Or avoid wearing tight jeans.  Overweight is unhealthy, something I found out for sure when I succumbed to illness because of my weight.  Earl Spencer is also overweight, which is worse for a male, and someone his age.
I find it curious that Kitty is overweight, when her mother Victoria struggled with anorexia and is now healthy.  Kitty wasn't overweight earlier in life, so I wonder if it's related to a medical condition or medications.  I hope she gets healthier.
I don't think Kitty's overweight, I think she's not stick thin, but she has a tendency to wear clothing that is way too tight on her and not flattering to her curves, she has said that her mother, because of her troubles with her weight, has instilled in Kitty and her sisters a healthy attitude to their bodies, eat what they want, exercise if they want and won't allow scales in their home. She obviously didn't want her daughters to succumb to body pressure as she did when she was younger. http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/kitty-spencer-weighs-in-6456530.html

I found some pictures from a photo shoot Lady Kitty Spencer did for Vanity Fair Italy in June 2009. She looks lovely!
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/eldest-daughter-of-the-earl-of-spencer-kitty-spencer-is-news-photo/154318448
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/eldest-daughter-of-the-earl-of-spencer-kitty-spencer-is-news-photo/154318447
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/eldest-daughter-of-the-earl-of-spencer-kitty-spencer-is-news-photo/154318446
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/eldest-daughter-of-the-earl-of-spencer-kitty-spencer-is-news-photo/154318444
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/eldest-daughter-of-the-earl-of-spencer-kitty-spencer-is-news-photo/154318437
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/eldest-daughter-of-the-earl-of-spencer-kitty-spencer-is-news-photo/154318435
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/eldest-daughter-of-the-earl-of-spencer-kitty-spencer-is-news-photo/154318432
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/eldest-daughter-of-the-earl-of-spencer-kitty-spencer-is-news-photo/154318420
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/eldest-daughter-of-the-earl-of-spencer-kitty-spencer-is-news-photo/154318417


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: YooperModerator on December 09, 2012, 06:26:43 pm
this girl looks lovely i don't know why she would want to change a single thing
lovely doll like face, long blond hair, very nice pair of tataas, small waist, slender arms and curvy female legs.
she looks like many a guy's dream gal!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Acornia on December 09, 2012, 11:47:08 pm
Phillip was hawt when he was young.  :flirt:

Yes, yes!!  :akasha:

I actually think Kitty is prettier with a fuller face. I don't think she's overweight either... just a bit on the healthy side.  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on December 10, 2012, 04:23:18 pm
Lady Kitty is lovely as are her twin sisters. I wonder if they know Waity or if they want to know her. :)

Does anybody know when Laura Fellowes had her baby? She looked fairly close to delivering at the wedding.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: memyselfandroyals on December 11, 2012, 12:16:23 am
she is perfect like that! and drp dead beautiful!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on December 15, 2012, 01:49:47 pm
http://pinterest.com/pin/127719339404419448/


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: memyselfandroyals on December 15, 2012, 06:05:02 pm
A beautiful place. I am sure she lies where she wanted, but she has gone too young  :bye:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on December 15, 2012, 07:27:39 pm
Yes, it makes me sad everytime I see the Oval, even though Althorp is beautiful.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on February 13, 2013, 03:57:53 pm
Alexander Fellowes, cousin of the Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry, to wed Alexandra Finlay

http://peeragenews.blogspot.com.es/2013/02/fellowesfinlay-engagement.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+PeerageNews+(Peerage+News)

I've always find fascinating how difficult is to enter this circle as all marry someone in except William.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on February 13, 2013, 04:42:59 pm
These young women are absolutely beautiful. Amelia has the face of a top model. Somebody give them a big mirror! please. And tell them they don't need to do all those clownish antics to get attention they're already beautiful, young and wealthy.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on April 16, 2013, 03:32:17 am
Alexander Fellowes, cousin of the Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry, to wed Alexandra Finlay

http://peeragenews.blogspot.com.es/2013/02/fellowesfinlay-engagement.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+PeerageNews+(Peerage+News)

I've always find fascinating how difficult is to enter this circle as all marry someone in except William.

Any news or photos from the wedding?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: berlin on April 17, 2013, 01:17:31 am
I wish William had married Kitty.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: YooperModerator on April 17, 2013, 10:36:54 am
Hmm a bit too close for my comfortzone its like saying he might as well marry bea or eugenie york!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: berlin on April 18, 2013, 02:11:46 am
Yeah I know.  But his ancestors did it.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Tatiana on April 18, 2013, 06:27:02 am
    True enough , Berlin.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snokitty on April 18, 2013, 03:44:25 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201034/Kate-Middletons-drug-dealer-uncle-warned-security-chiefs-change-lifestyle.html
Quote
They are both royalty, of sorts.

She is the niece of the late Diana, Princess of Wales, while he is touted as one of the most outstanding England batsmen of his generation, whose cricketer grandfather remains an icon to lovers of the game.

Stepping out for the first time as a couple this week, Lady Kitty Spencer and Nick Compton – grandson of the legendary Denis - made a dazzling couple – impossibly good looking, blue-eyed, tousled blondes.

And far from being concerned that Kitty might have inherited her family’s marital curse (her father, Earl Spencer, has of late married his third wife and fathered his seventh child), Nick’s family have welcomed her with open arms.




Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Grey Mare on April 18, 2013, 04:23:32 pm
Yeah I know.  But his ancestors did it.

That is exactly why William and Kitty shouldn't.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on April 18, 2013, 04:24:31 pm
^yeah, I don't think it's wrong for cousins to marry but if their families are already connected too much, better not


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on April 18, 2013, 05:24:31 pm
I wish William had married Kitty.

Noooo waaay it's too close, it would almost be like practically marrying a sister (Diana and Earl Spencer are sister and brother, Harry and Kitty are way too close, first cousins. Yuck.  :ick: bignono
Just not done in this day.  :o

Maybe someone can introduce Lady Kitty to Pr.Carl Phillip of Sweden(and they might hit it off?)
(Pr.Carl and Lady Kitty Spencer ) The Spencer's would have a Princess in the Swedish house.  :flirt:




Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on April 20, 2013, 04:53:22 am
 :thumbsup:


Title: Secrets Of Althorp – The Spencers (2013)
Post by: D.I.R. on July 13, 2013, 01:53:58 am
Secrets Of Althorp – The Spencers (2013) (http://video-links.info/msh.php?url=ed2844955824f)

 Who knew that the American flag was based on President George Washington English family Crest...


Title: Re: Secrets Of Althorp – The Spencers (2013)
Post by: berlin on July 13, 2013, 02:31:59 am
And the D.C. flag, which was next to the American looking one!  That was one of my favorite's from the broadcast.  I'd love to get the DVD.


Title: Re: Secrets Of Althorp – The Spencers (2013)
Post by: Tatiana on July 13, 2013, 04:17:59 am

 I seem to be related to the great man  :o

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-02-16/travel/tr-4225_1_george-washington


Title: Re: Secrets Of Althorp – The Spencers (2013)
Post by: D.I.R. on July 13, 2013, 05:52:23 am
And the D.C. flag, which was next to the American looking one!  That was one of my favorite's from the broadcast.  I'd love to get the DVD.

Secrets of Althorp - The Spencers DVD (http://www.shoppbs.org/product/index.jsp?productId=20713616&utm_source=PBS&utm_medium=Link&utm_content=secretsofAlthorp_thespencers_covebuyit&utm_campaign=cove_buyit)  :flower:


 I seem to be related to the great man  :o

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-02-16/travel/tr-4225_1_george-washington

That's pretty amazing Tatiana.
Maybe I'll pm you about my side of the British family when I find info on them.... I wouldn't be surprised that we would be related.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/smile.gif)



Title: Re: Secrets Of Althorp – The Spencers (2013)
Post by: Tatiana on July 14, 2013, 12:59:03 am
 Please do


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on July 22, 2013, 09:17:37 pm
Congratulations to the Spencer families on the birth of Diana's first grandson. (Even if he was carried by a surrogate.  :tehe:)


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: D.I.R. on July 22, 2013, 09:23:32 pm
I wish William had married Kitty.

Noooo waaay it's too close, it would almost be like practically marrying a sister (Diana and Earl Spencer are sister and brother, Harry and Kitty are way too close, first cousins. Yuck.  :ick: bignono
Just not done in this day.  :o

Maybe someone can introduce Lady Kitty to Pr.Carl Phillip of Sweden(and they might hit it off?)
(Pr.Carl and Lady Kitty Spencer ) The Spencer's would have a Princess in the Swedish house.  :flirt:




 lol yeah that's never gonna happen. Carl is really bestowed on Sophia.


Title: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: royalwindsorfan on August 15, 2013, 11:50:29 pm
So much news coverage has been shown saying the queen, camilka and charles has seen the new baby what about dianas mother and family


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: dianab on August 16, 2013, 12:05:25 am
The mother of Diana died years ago. There's reports William wants take George & Kate to Althorp. I do think we'll have wait & see...


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: royalwindsorfan on August 16, 2013, 12:10:37 am
I didn't know her mom died.I know her dad did.what about the other spencersc did champagne charlie see his nephew.


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: dianab on August 16, 2013, 12:15:04 am
I do think Charles Spencer lives in South Africa. ???


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: mysha on August 16, 2013, 04:53:31 pm
I think her ' brother ' lives back in UK with wife number 4 , 5 or 6

Her Mother died young and alone in Scotland


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: royalwindsorfan on August 16, 2013, 08:13:14 pm
I think her ' brother ' lives back in UK with wife number 4 , 5 or 6

Her Mother died young and alone in Scotland

well Diana is reunited with both her parents in the afterlife.the royals live a very long time. modern royals got rid of the old habits of the past like smoking, the queens father, granny and princess Margaret all died kind of young.i think queen mary had lung cancer too,maybe she smoked.


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: serene grace on August 16, 2013, 08:21:55 pm
The Spencer's were on holiday in Italy or (France?) renting a Villa for the summer, when they return which they may have by now, there are rumours that William will invite his Uncle and cousins to see the baby.


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: royalwindsorfan on August 16, 2013, 08:24:06 pm
what about Diana's sisters


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: dianab on August 16, 2013, 09:10:44 pm
If William (& Harry) havent contact with Jane F. may be for his own choice, after all the Windsors thinks highly of hers & her husband...


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 03, 2013, 05:31:39 pm
phil dampier ‏@phildampier

William and Kate took baby George to meet Diana's sister Lady Sarah McCorquodale and family last weekend.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: RoyalWatcher on September 03, 2013, 08:26:12 pm
I had wondered if William and Harry had remained close to their Mom's family.........Glad to see that they took the baby to visit great-aunt Sarah!



Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on September 03, 2013, 10:43:23 pm
Yay! Maybe Georgie can get to know his Spencer cousins since W&W don't seem to want him to know the Windsors


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: True Brit on September 03, 2013, 11:07:19 pm
The DM had a story on this and it's vanished completely.

However the Daily Beast has a short piece (sorry it won't let me add the link for some reason)





Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 04, 2013, 03:08:15 am
^ hmmm i would think the DM will be all over this


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sassafras on September 04, 2013, 03:27:05 am
The DM had a great article that focused on PW not sharing his grief about his mom's death, except for one speech he gave to the Childrens Bereavement group. They had great quotes from him speech. I'm surprised that it was taken down. I feel like we need to copy/paste every article that gets published about the Cambridges or Pippa before it gets deleted.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 04, 2013, 04:47:35 am
William and Kate mark Diana's anniversary by taking Prince George to visit her family

Prince William and his wife Kate Middleton honoured the memory of his late mother by taking their baby son Prince George to visit Diana's family on the 16th anniversary of her death.

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their little boy are said to have spent the weekend with Princess Diana's eldest sister Lady Sarah McCorquodale and her family.

http://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2013090314389/prince-william-kate-george-visit-diana-family/


Royals pay tribute to Diana in secret

PRINCE William honoured the memory of his mother by taking Kate and baby George to see Diana’s family on the anniversary of her death
.

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge spent the weekend with her eldest sister, Lady Sarah McCorquodale, and her family, sources said yesterday.

William and Kate, with six-week old George, were seen boarding a helicopter at Belton Woods country club near Grantham, Lincs - just six miles from the farmhouse in Stoke Rochford where Lady Sarah, 58, lives with her husband Neil, a farmer and former Guards officer.

Their family reunion on the 16th anniversary weekend of Diana's death, a chance to sit around a table and swap favourite reminiscences about her, was one of several in the last few years.

The second-in-line to the throne and his wife have done their best to stay in touch with all of William's Spencer relatives. But they are particularly close to Lady Sarah, who dated Prince Charles before Diana and acted as an informal lady-in-waiting to her youngest sister.

In June last year, Kate and William, both 31, joined Harry at the wedding of the princes' cousin, Emily McCorquodale, 30 - Neil and Lady Sarah's eldest child - to James Hutt.

The royals and their Spencer cousins spent their childhoods playing together.

It is not clear if Harry, 28, was also at the family gathering at the weekend. He and William are highly protective of their mother's legacy and like to observe the anniversary of her death privately.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/426558/Royals-pay-tribute-to-Diana-in-secret



William and Kate pay tribute to Diana with visit to sister

LAST UPDATED AT 12:58 ON Tue 3 Sep 2013
PRINCE WILLIAM and Kate Middleton marked the anniversary of Princess Diana’s death by taking Prince George to meet his great aunt, Lady Sarah McCorquodale. William is reportedly very close to his mother’s sister, who dated Prince Charles before Diana and acted as her informal lady-in-waiting.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/royal-baby/53785/prince-george-photos-kates-father-turns-royal-snapper


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sassafras on September 04, 2013, 04:57:53 am
Thanks for those!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Nighthawk on September 04, 2013, 06:58:46 am
I'm guessing that PW nor PH visits this side of the family after all this press of how lucky the family been blessed in their presences  :sly:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on September 04, 2013, 11:39:49 am
I wonder if William and Harry have anything to do with the Fellowes?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: berlin on September 05, 2013, 03:43:33 am
Wasn't the Fellowes guy a courtier?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: dianab on September 05, 2013, 03:52:21 am
Yes, he was private secretary of the Queen... now he's a BARON


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: RoyalWatcher on September 05, 2013, 05:24:25 am
And didn't one of the sisters, perhaps both?, tell Diana that it was too late to back out of the wedding?

Diana should have listened to her instincts.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on September 05, 2013, 08:22:26 am
Fellowes was rumored to have been in Paris when Diana died. He possibly may have been involved.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on September 06, 2013, 03:47:40 am
I wouldn't surprise me a bit if Baron Robby was involved in Diana's death. He's rumored to the consummate company man; Liz's official buttock smoocher I think. I belive that's why Jane looks so much older and more tired than Sarah, Jane lives in fear of hubs and what he might do to her or their kids.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on September 06, 2013, 11:12:04 pm
I bet he's one nasty piece of work.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on September 20, 2013, 09:33:45 pm
Congratulations to Jane's son Alexander and his new bride Alexandra!!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on September 21, 2013, 12:01:41 am
Fellowes was rumored to have been in Paris when Diana died. He possibly may have been involved.

What! That is certainly an odd coincidence. Why was he there?  :-



Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on September 21, 2013, 03:02:15 pm
Who wouldn't want to go to Paris?

I just don't buy the "Diana was murdered" theory. It was a terrible accident.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 28, 2013, 09:28:38 am
I wonder why the Spencers never ended up going international if they were ambitious for high level matches; I wonder how different things might have been if Diana had gone overseas and mingled with the aristocracy of Europe and ended up socializing with an Italian or French prince. Or maybe dating a wealthy European tycoon; the continentals might have appreciated her more and admired her for all she had to offer. I find it interesting that the aristocracy is so insular that they really to limit themselves.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on September 29, 2013, 02:43:45 pm
Serene Grace, Sir Robert Fellowes is HM's number one right hand man. He was her spokesman. He always gave Diana hell about everything. IMHO, I think he was seriously involved with her murder and he was there to make sure everything was wrapped up tight for the RF i.e. covering their royals slime bucket asses. These people have been getting away with every heinous crime for years because they have minions like Fellowes to do their dirty work and to cover it up. And, after Diana's murder, he received his title.


Title: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: AnaBolena on October 16, 2013, 06:06:46 pm
Quote
Earl Spencer said he had never seen anything to suggest the crash in which his sister, Diana, Princess of Wales died was anything but an accident.
Extracts published this week from a book written by the princess's former butler, Paul Burrell, include a claim that Diana feared for her life and spoke of a plot to tamper with the brakes of her car.
But Earl Spencer, speaking on America's NBC television, said any suggestions of a conspiracy theory were nonsense.
"My family and I are absolutely certain that we've never seen any evidence of that whatsoever," he said.
Extracts from the book, published in the Daily Mirror today, also include a letter to Diana from her brother, expressing concern for her mental health.
"I pray you're getting treatment for your mental problems," Earl Spencer allegedly wrote.
"I know how manipulation and deceit are parts of the illness."
But Earl Spencer said he was angry the ex-butler had published the correspondence.
"Well first of all it is obviously private correspondence which has been taken out of context and out of time.
"I suppose all the loving letters I sent don't have the sell-ability that this one, which was trying to help her, a genuine attempt to help her, when she was at her most complex."
Lawyers acting for the Royal Family are unlikely to take action against Mr Burrell over the controversial book. It is understood Mr Burrell and his publishers may have slipped through a legal loophole to escape censure.
If, as it seems, only extracts of letters written by Diana and members of the Royal Family are quoted in the book, it would be difficult to take action for breach of copyright.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-200499/Earl-Dianas-death-accident.html

He isn't denying what was written, so it was clearly about something that was real - does anyone know what it was?


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 19, 2013, 03:47:11 am
The two hurled insults at each other after he changed his mind about providing a place for her on his estate. They made up after. The multi married Spencer is hardly the one to throw stones at Diana. He didn't exactly lead a perfect life.

It is on record that Diana got help for her bulimia and got it under control. Perhaps Spencer was referring to the bulimia--his other sister Sarah had anorexia at one point. And Spencer's own unhappy first wife had bulimia too.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on October 20, 2013, 11:01:28 am
Sorry this is a bit after the fact, I have been a bit busy, but here you are:
The wedding of The Honourable Alexander Fellowes and Alexandra Finlay, at the Chapel of St Mary Undercroft, Palace of Westminster, London, 20 September 2013.  
Most of the pictures are from everyone arriving at the reception, which was held at Claridges Hotel.
Alexander is a nephew of the late Princess Diana, he is the son of Lady Jane Fellowes (nee Spencer) and Baron Robert Fellowes.
I was going to put it in the aristo thread, but I figured it belongs here, as he is technically part of the Spencer family. Did anyone notice that neither Earl Spencer nor any of his children attended?
Bride and groom
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/20/article-2427018-181D874200000578-300_634x911.jpg
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/I0000tQ_hZva.3Ug/C00005NkIg5nCHms
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/I0000sCP4N08NaEw/C00005NkIg5nCHms
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/alexander-fellowes-and-alexandra-finlay-arrive-at-claridges-news-photo/181301434
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/alexander-fellowes-and-alexandra-finlay-arrive-at-claridges-news-photo/181301429
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/alexander-fellowes-and-alexandra-finlay-arrive-at-claridges-news-photo/181301438
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/alexander-fellowes-and-alexandra-finlay-arrive-at-their-news-photo/181298367
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/alexander-fellowes-and-alexandra-finlay-arrive-at-their-news-photo/181298361
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/alexander-fellowes-and-alexandra-finlay-arrive-at-claridges-news-photo/181298369
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00001039141489&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229147&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=13&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.9086862283293158
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.0000658676699&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229143&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=16&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.6536602091509849
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00001694968841&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229130&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=29&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.0834875360596925
Bride
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/I0000UwBvTAmZpPw/C00005NkIg5nCHms
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/20/article-2427018-181DB55600000578-79_634x351.jpg
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/alexandra-finlay-arrives-for-her-wedding-to-alexander-news-photo/181298299
http://www.isopix.be/persfotos_photos-de-presse/fellowes-and-findlay-wedding-21183546-pv.aspx?DDLB_CATALOG=1&VIEW_OFFSET=00000080
http://www.isopix.be/persfotos_photos-de-presse/fellowes-and-findlay-wedding-21183545-pv.aspx?DDLB_CATALOG=1&VIEW_OFFSET=00000081
Lady Jane Fellowes (mother of the groom)
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/I00003eaOJ3gLDnc/C00005NkIg5nCHms
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/lady-jane-fellowes-arrives-at-claridges-hotel-to-attend-the-news-photo/181301439
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/lady-jane-fellowes-attends-the-wedding-reception-of-news-photo/181298368
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00002087777642&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229149&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=11&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.025766860926523805
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00002115970174&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229137&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=22&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.3316764021292329
Baron Robert Fellowes (father of the groom)
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.0000628341697&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229134&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=25&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.8326494449283928
The Honourable Eleanor Fellowes (sister of the groom)
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00001830116237&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229396&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=1&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.24923952855169773
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00001644783124&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229132&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=27&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.16321063344366848
Lady Sarah McCorquodale
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/I0000rt5eCExUPMM/C00005NkIg5nCHms
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/I0000WrwBArRHeaQ/C00005NkIg5nCHms
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/I0000MDy7ng.J64I/C00005NkIg5nCHms
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/lady-sarah-mccorquodale-smokes-a-cigarette-outside-news-photo/181301440
Celia McCorquodale
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00002061531597&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229376&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=9&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.05388273694552481
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.000012792829&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229135&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=24&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.32096704840660095
Celia, Emily and Sarah McCorq.
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.0000562335440&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229146&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=14&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.7073733501601964
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00001165859646&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229138&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=21&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.6169501557014883
Celia McCorquodale and Prince Harry
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/I0000U_60YDjMrvs/C00005NkIg5nCHms
Celia McCorquodale, PH, James Hutt and Emily Hutt (nee McCorquodale)
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/I0000jxf13BwGmAk/C00005NkIg5nCHms
http://www.isopix.be/persfotos_photos-de-presse/alexander-fellowes-and-alexandra-finlay-wedding-at-st-mary-undercroft-the-houses-of-parliament-london-britain-20-sep-2013-21184338-pv.aspx?DDLB_CATALOG=1&VIEW_OFFSET=00000038
PH, Emily and James Hutt
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/20/article-2427018-181DB51D00000578-126_634x391.jpg
PH and James Hutt
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/I0000YmraIxDLpYY/C00005NkIg5nCHms
Celia, PH, James Hutt
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/20/article-2427018-181E749800000578-345_634x426.jpg
Other guests:
Lord Vestey
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00001377210972&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229379&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=6&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.2564435440581292
Lady Celia Vestey
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/lady-celia-vestey-arrives-at-claridges-hotel-to-attend-the-news-photo/181301441
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/lady-celia-vestey-arrives-at-claridges-hotel-to-attend-the-news-photo/181301433
William Vestey and his wife Violet (she used to work at Tatler, now Vogue)
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.000045481136&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229150&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=10&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.8932362515479326
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00002121541312&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229148&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=12&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.6163343561347574
Serena Hood (married to PW friend Peregrine Hood, also works at Vogue)
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?67054291369176490325.00001433578227&MEDIANUMBER=04000002229395&MEDIAITEMS=0b62b6397a7b8dda138c4137a9df55455dd421f1&PAGING_SCOPE_4=2&EVENT=POPUP&WINDOW=WGWIN5943f480e324f722d980f7b6e6b4a9b1&AJXUID=0.9546078108251095
Ben Goldsmith
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/ben-goldsmith-arrives-at-claridges-hotel-on-a-routemaster-news-photo/181301431
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/ben-goldsmith-arrives-at-claridges-hotel-on-a-routemaster-news-photo/181301428
Albums:
http://markcuthbert.photoshelter.com/gallery/13-09-20-Fellowes-Finlay-Wedding/G0000ZNFPz4ncum0/C00005NkIg5nCHms
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&mt=photography&p=alexander+fellowes
http://www.picturepress.de/index.php?88491200134057662900.00001346400354
http://www.isopix.be/view_main.aspx?MODE=HP&PG=1&INIT=1&SRC=alexander+fellowes&DDLB_CATALOG=1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2427018/Harry-travels-solo-Princess-Dianas-nephew-marry-society-wedding.html
I also managed to find a few pictures on instagram from inside the reception, etc. under the hashtag #beetleandfin, which are their nicknames, I think. http://web.stagram.com/tag/beetleandfin/
http://web.stagram.com/p/549082970135314870_19242159
http://web.stagram.com/p/549983468094866192_19242159
http://web.stagram.com/p/549319265665966968_421894887
http://web.stagram.com/p/549198355673235969_19242159
http://web.stagram.com/p/549012171041010848_27819348
http://web.stagram.com/p/548995295013355938_19242159
Their wedding planner Mark Niemierko posted pictures on his instagram and tumblr http://niemierko.tumblr.com. I thought it would be easier to post the tumblr links:
Videos: bride walking in with her father  
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757598143/my-bride-walking-through-westminster-hall-with-her
the choir practicing before the ceremony:
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757544825/could-it-be-magic-beetleandfin
Pictures: http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61681545409/rehearse-rehearse-rehearse
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757490337/st-marys-undercroft-at-houses-of-parliament
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757498243/candles-never-can-have-enough-beetleandfin
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/62053049253/robvanhelden1-working-his-magic-on-a-sea-of
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757576434/too-much-beetleandfin
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61849355391/stunning-buttonholes-and-bouquet-at-yesterdays (Bride's Bouquet)
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757605311/french-salon-looking-magical-beetleandfin
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757609974/you-are-seated-at-beetleandfin
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757613652/amazing-escort-cards-by-the-bride-beetleandfin
(The bride wrote all the namecards herself)
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757745440/top-table-beetleandfin
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757746768/brides-place-setting-beetleandfin
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757749454/drawing-room-looks-magical-beetleandfin
(Beautiful table settings)
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/62053108073/seamless-lunch-service-at-claridgeshotel-for
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61757772022/and-the-bride-wore-manolo-blahnik
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61767545165/post-lunch-drinks-the-fumoir
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61767547349/dont-*despise*-me-fumoir-regulars
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61767578268/espresso-martinis-at-the-ready-beetleandfin
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61770596025/totes-chips-beetleandfin  (they had chips!)
http://niemierko.tumblr.com/post/61794688591/bridal-suite-beetleandfin


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 20, 2013, 12:49:23 pm
Someone who wouldn't know them, would instantly assume that Celai McCorquodale and Prince Harry are siblings.
Same colour of hair, same shape of the head and eyes, same chin.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: RoyalWatcher on October 20, 2013, 05:09:03 pm
^

Very similiar to his cousin and to his mother's family.  But when you take the photo of a young D.O.E. and put it up against Harry......he looks like his paternal grandfather as well.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 20, 2013, 05:23:11 pm
Indeed, including the posture. A few weeks ago Harry was opening some navy-yard or training center and he was looking with his hands behind his back and his entire posture was an exact copy of his grandfather.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: AnaBolena on October 20, 2013, 07:55:33 pm
Thanks, Sandy.  It actually made no sense after I had seen his speech in Diana's defense at her funeral.

There's something strange about that guy to me - I don't know what it is, just something.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: serene grace on October 20, 2013, 08:55:10 pm
It's sad that Burrell let this letter get out, because Charles was trying to put the idea out to the public, while she was his wife, that she was mentally unstable, this will only add to that argument for some.

It's terrible seeing what Diana had to go through at times.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: RoyalWatcher on October 20, 2013, 11:27:52 pm
I don't think that the letter in any way hurts her legacy.  It just shows how she took the appropriate actions to get the help that she needed to deal with her feelings and her emotions.  IMO, she helped many young woman and men realize that they too could go for help dealing with their eating disorders.

Perhaps if the Royal Family and her children wouldn't have treated her most trusted friend like a crook, then perhaps he'd not have had to turn to writing books about his life with their mother, and ex-wife.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on October 21, 2013, 03:50:01 am
Thanks for posting these!


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: serene grace on October 21, 2013, 11:48:48 am
Where does it say in that letter it's about an eating disorder?   

 ??? 


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 21, 2013, 02:39:04 pm
He said (allegedly) mental problems. The"mental problem" Diana had was bulimia. There is no record of her having any other "mental disorder." Or he was just being a jerk and insulting her. Maybe it was the latter.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: serene grace on October 21, 2013, 03:02:58 pm
That's the thing, we know she had bulimia, but to those who want to continue the Diana was Crazy, as in mental, Burrell releasing portions of this letter, has given those detractors something in writing from her own brother. Even if he does mean bulimia, they will use this letter for proof to say she was going bonkers or whatever several of the bashing books have claimed over the years,

Burrell is a sh!!t.  :bat:


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 21, 2013, 03:12:02 pm
People who know the backstory that the two were angry at each other would realize the context of his comment. Her comments to him are not known but they could have been just as scathing.

I don't think it is "proof" of anything. But even without proof people like Penny Junor and Pamela Hicks continue to slam Diana. The woman is dead and can't defend herself.

If there were any other "mental problems" this would have been dug up a long time ago. She had bulimia, an eating disorder.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 21, 2013, 03:46:00 pm
What makes it unbelievable is that Earl Spencer of all people hurled this insult.

He had multiple marriages ditched his first and second wives leaving them with young children. His second wife just had their second child when he ditched her. His first wife was bulimic and he was said not to be particularly nice to her. Sorry don't see him as a "Credible" source for various reasons. And he has no medical degree to boot.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: serene grace on October 21, 2013, 03:52:59 pm
Please don't double post

Yes that's exactly who I mean, Penny Junor and also Lady Colin Campbell, if she's still around, were writing things about Diana, which were mean spirited.

I just wonder if Charles Spencer was asking his sister in a "loving way" was she getting help with her bulimia?
Burrell is who I fault more, he had no business selling this, he knows how it looks and will open up a can of worms , when Diana can't defend herself.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Jane23 on October 21, 2013, 06:28:32 pm
Di was all over the place is it shocking to anyone?  :June: Having a go at everyone else isn't going to change anything ... Di had real mental problems and she gave proof of that over the Years ...


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 21, 2013, 06:35:37 pm
Excuse me Jane. Did you get a degree to practice psychology? Did you treat Diana? I didn't think so you are in no position to call her mentally ill. I think she showed great restraint putting up with Chuck and his nasty mistress for 10 years.

I think Charles had the problems, he thought he was above all morality and could bag other men's wives.  I think he should have sailed off with Camilla and left Diana alone.

Before Charles married her, people who worked with her thought her happy and healthy. She got her bulimia under control.

Maybe your idea of mental health Jane is for Diana to think it wonderful for the Great Man to deign to spend time with her and give her full blessings to Charles running off to his mistress when it suits him. Diana would have had issues had she put up with the garbage from Charley boy.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Jane23 on October 21, 2013, 09:51:12 pm
Di had issues before even meeting The Prince of Wales ... the way she died and all 1996/97 period prove The Prince wasn't the problem even though some wish it to be true ... Di slept with married men so let's not got there ... Di wasn't any better than her husband so let's not talk about "morality"  :June: ...


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Stephanie on October 21, 2013, 11:28:11 pm
That Paul Burrell is the lowest of the lowest and is only interested in money.

Chuck should stop this out of loyalty to Diana and his sons.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 22, 2013, 12:18:58 am
Di had issues before even meeting The Prince of Wales ... the way she died and all 1996/97 period prove The Prince wasn't the problem even though some wish it to be true ... Di slept with married men so let's not got there ... Di wasn't any better than her husband so let's not talk about "morality"  :June: ...

Did you read books by her employers? They did not indicate "problems" she had. She was happy and healthy.

Diana was unfaithful because it was that or be a nun--divorce was discouraged. Hubby carried on with Camilla and Kanga before he dated Diana. He brought in a weak foundation to the marriage--he admitted he didn't love Diana and Camilla stayed in his life no matter what.

Charles humiliated Diana and dumped her like a peach pit after he had gotten the heir and spare from her.

Charles went into the marriage knowing he didn't love Diana and preferred another woman. I think he more culpable since he was dishonest and used Diana only for expediency's sake.

Had Charles not behaved like a dog I doubt Diana would have looked at another man.

I don't think Charles cared Diana cheated, he could be with Camilla without Diana pestering him about it.  He did care that Diana put up a fuss about Camilla. I think he wanted her to be a female edition of Andrew Parker Bowles who was "civilized" about Chuck having sex with his wife.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Royal Lowness on October 23, 2013, 01:06:23 am
Di had issues before even meeting The Prince of Wales ... the way she died and all 1996/97 period prove The Prince wasn't the problem even though some wish it to be true ... Di slept with married men so let's not got there ... Di wasn't any better than her husband so let's not talk about "morality"  :June: ...

What do you mean by, "the way she died"?

I see that you claim that "The Prince wasn't the problem." Strange how he threatened to have her killed in a car 'accident' though, wasn't it?


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: AnaBolena on October 23, 2013, 05:07:40 pm
Royal Lowness, where is it written and by whom that Charles threatened Diana?  I would love to see the evidence and as to who made the claim or what.  I have never seen it written other than said by Diana, but then she said so many things that come over as paranoid at times that it's hard to tell what is fact and what is fiction.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 23, 2013, 05:25:44 pm
I think Charles was more emotionally cruel to her. That was the issue she had with him. Though the Housekeeper's Diary has him throwing an object in Diana's direction during one of their rows. I doubt he was aiming at her, just lost his temper.

But the main thing was that Charles made fun of her bulimia and would put her down in public which can really hurt. Jephson and a courtier witnessed a put down first hand. And Charles was seen scolding Diana when she fainted in public.

Do the royals ever think they need counseling? I think Charles did even before he met Diana or got married to sort out some of his issues.

I don't blame Diana for being suspicious (I am not using paranoid here) because she found out that "friends" she and Charles supposedly had jointly were only his friends and supplied Safe houses for him and Camilla.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Royal Lowness on October 23, 2013, 07:34:27 pm
Royal Lowness, where is it written and by whom that Charles threatened Diana?  I would love to see the evidence and as to who made the claim or what.  I have never seen it written other than said by Diana, but then she said so many things that come over as paranoid at times that it's hard to tell what is fact and what is fiction.

So she states that he threatened to have her killed in a car 'accident', she is then killed in a fake car 'accident', and you think that this can be attributed to paranoia or coincidence? That is stretching the evidence out of all shape or reality.

I think it far, far more likely that Princess Diana was simply speaking the truth. And even if it were written down (though I fail to see what difference that would make), his name would be blacked out, as is par for the course.

(I was asking a question to Jane23, but it is also par for the course that she will not be able to defend her statement.)


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: AnaBolena on October 24, 2013, 05:25:09 pm
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I think Charles was more emotionally cruel to her. That was the issue she had with him. Though the Housekeeper's Diary has him throwing an object in Diana's direction during one of their rows. I doubt he was aiming at her, just lost his temper.

I agree he was, but as I have read they were both throwers, screamers, foul mouth swearers - so what do we believe, really?   IMO they lost their temper at each other, like too many married couples do.  I detest domestic violence, but it happens - it just didn't ought to by either party.

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But the main thing was that Charles made fun of her bulimia and would put her down in public which can really hurt. Jephson and a courtier witnessed a put down first hand. And Charles was seen scolding Diana when she fainted in public.

Telling off one's partner in public is very abusive, and nope, I am not ever defending that.  It's wrong. Period.

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Do the royals ever think they need counseling? I think Charles did even before he met Diana or got married to sort out some of his issues.

Sadly, I think they think they are different to other human beings.  I agree Charles should have had counselling before Diana or any woman, but so should Diana have had counselling before Charles.   Bulimia seldom ever rides alone, there is almost always a co-morbidity with the illness and she really did need support.
 
 


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: AnaBolena on October 24, 2013, 05:43:47 pm
Royal Lowness, where is it written and by whom that Charles threatened Diana?  I would love to see the evidence and as to who made the claim or what.  I have never seen it written other than said by Diana, but then she said so many things that come over as paranoid at times that it's hard to tell what is fact and what is fiction.

So she states that he threatened to have her killed in a car 'accident', she is then killed in a fake car 'accident', and you think that this can be attributed to paranoia or coincidence? That is stretching the evidence out of all shape or reality.

I think it far, far more likely that Princess Diana was simply speaking the truth. And even if it were written down (though I fail to see what difference that would make), his name would be blacked out, as is par for the course.

(I was asking a question to Jane23, but it is also par for the course that she will not be able to defend her statement.)


Royal Lowness,

Many married couples threaten each other - wrong and terrible behavior, but they do it, so no, I wouldn't take Diana's word verbatim because she died in a car accident.   IMO, there is a difference as to whether she said it or not.  She said a lot of things that were blatantly untrue - and she knew it.  She never threw herself down the stairs as she claimed she did.  Example - : 

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In tapes already broadcast, the princess detailed apparent attempts at suicide by hurling herself down a flight of stairs, slashing her chest and thighs with a penknife, cutting her wrists and throwing herself into a glass cabinet at Kensington Palace.


I do believe Diana often believed with all her heart she was telling the truth, but later realized she embellished things a wee bit too much.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: serene grace on October 25, 2013, 01:45:36 pm
 :dp: :dp: :dp: :dp: :dp:

  Please don't double post, let others reply, then continue posting

Thank you  :dp:


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 26, 2013, 01:30:31 am
Diana was spot on about many things including

1 - Charles not wanting to give up Camilla

2 - Penny Junor even agreed that Camilla sent trinkets to Charles on his honeymoon with Diana

3 - Stephen Barry said Charles made several phone calls to Camilla while on the honeymoon with Diana

4 - Charles would feel limited by the "top job" (it agrees with the recent article about Charles in Time)


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: serene grace on October 26, 2013, 05:45:49 pm
 
She said she was going to have a accident, and she darn sure did. That always spooked me.


 


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In the note, sent to her butler Paul Burrell, Diana suggested that her husband was "planning an accident in my car".

She insisted to Lord Mishcon at a tense private meeting in October 1995 that "reliable sources" had informed her of the plan.
He kept it secret until after the Paris crash in which she died almost two years later.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-503489/My-husband-planning-accident-car-Dianas-sensational-letter-revealed-full.html#ixzz2iqa2cXt3
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Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Jane23 on October 26, 2013, 06:25:00 pm
Di had "daddy issues" that's for sure ... issues that of course The Prince didn't know how to handle no one of her numerous lovers could  they all walked ...she also bought into her own press and was too self involved ... she also tended to give her own version of the truth that made the person she aimed at to look like a monster ...


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 26, 2013, 06:44:36 pm
Here we go again. The "numerous" lovers. Dodi, Hewitt, and Khan were lovers. Carling denied being the lover, Hoare never confirmed nor denied. Jane who have no proof she had "numerous" lovers. And isn't it sexist to blame the woman for the breakup? Hewitt turned out to be a louse. Khan didn't want to go public with her. Have you ever considered that maybe males can be blamed for breakups.

I think you are describing Charles who blames others and gives his own version of things. The Prince made himself look like a monster and has nobody else to blame. He has the nanny mistress now.she loves the perks and can retreat from him at Raymill.
Your darling Chuck's way of handling things is to go running to his nanny/mistress. What a loser
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Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Royal Lowness on October 26, 2013, 11:04:02 pm
At least any lovers that Princess Diana had were of the normal variety, unlike some of those of Charles:

"Smith approached Diana, Princess of Wales and made two allegations. He repeated his allegation that he had been raped. He also claimed to have witnessed the Princess's estranged husband, the Prince of Wales, lying in bed with his aide, Michael Fawcett, on one occasion when he brought the Prince his breakfast. Diana made a tape of the interview. The whereabouts of the tape became a matter of considerable controversy following Diana's death in August 1997.

"A subsequent inquiry by senior staff members of the Prince of Wales into the violent physical attack allegations dismissed them as fiction. Smith was retired from the Prince's Household.

"Smith's second allegation, of a sexual relationship between the Prince of Wales and Fawcett, was repeated in a legal statement issued by him to the Mail on Sunday newspaper. Fawcett took a High Court injunction to prevent their disclosure. The injunction was granted. The Guardian newspaper sought and received permission from the courts on 6 November 2003 to name Fawcett as the party granted the injunction. In response, the Prince's Private Secretary issued a statement denying the allegations and questioning the trustworthiness of the unnamed Smith as a source.

"Though the story still cannot be published in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, it has been written about extensively in the Republic of Ireland and Italy and on some Internet websites. It was also published in the Scottish Glasgow Herald; Scotland, which operates under a different legal jurisdiction from the rest of the United Kingdom, is exempt from a ruling of the English High Court."

(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Smith_%28royal_servant%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Smith_%28royal_servant%29))


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 27, 2013, 12:51:52 am
I think Fawcett is Charles favorite. He has been non-negotiable for many years.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: dianab on October 27, 2013, 01:32:05 am
At least any lovers that Princess Diana had were of the normal variety, unlike some of those of Charles:

"Smith approached Diana, Princess of Wales and made two allegations. He repeated his allegation that he had been raped. He also claimed to have witnessed the Princess's estranged husband, the Prince of Wales, lying in bed with his aide, Michael Fawcett, on one occasion when he brought the Prince his breakfast. Diana made a tape of the interview. The whereabouts of the tape became a matter of considerable controversy following Diana's death in August 1997.

"A subsequent inquiry by senior staff members of the Prince of Wales into the violent physical attack allegations dismissed them as fiction. Smith was retired from the Prince's Household.

"Smith's second allegation, of a sexual relationship between the Prince of Wales and Fawcett, was repeated in a legal statement issued by him to the Mail on Sunday newspaper. Fawcett took a High Court injunction to prevent their disclosure. The injunction was granted. The Guardian newspaper sought and received permission from the courts on 6 November 2003 to name Fawcett as the party granted the injunction. In response, the Prince's Private Secretary issued a statement denying the allegations and questioning the trustworthiness of the unnamed Smith as a source.

"Though the story still cannot be published in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, it has been written about extensively in the Republic of Ireland and Italy and on some Internet websites. It was also published in the Scottish Glasgow Herald; Scotland, which operates under a different legal jurisdiction from the rest of the United Kingdom, is exempt from a ruling of the English High Court."

(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Smith_%28royal_servant%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Smith_%28royal_servant%29))

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Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Royal Lowness on October 27, 2013, 01:35:59 am
I think Fawcett is Charles favorite. He has been non-negotiable for many years.

Yes, I think so, too:

http://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/prince-charles-sheds-tears-for-his-beloved-valet/ (http://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/prince-charles-sheds-tears-for-his-beloved-valet/)




 :worship: :goodpost:  :worship:

 :thankyou:


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: serene grace on October 27, 2013, 06:24:32 am
It's getting a bit off topic. Time to get back to what illness Earl Spencer may have been speaking of.

There is a Random chat thread in both the Charles and Diana discussion threads to discuss other aspects of their lives posters want to discuss or to create new threads.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 27, 2013, 11:29:59 am
Earl Spencer was just being nasty to his sister. I think he was not exactly nice to his first two wives either.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: discoveryme on October 27, 2013, 04:45:36 pm
AnaBolena, I just wanted to say I really like your posts and replies all the time, you always makes sense and reply without trashing or writing garbage.....unlike some...I'll stop here before i get warned.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: AnaBolena on October 27, 2013, 06:08:32 pm
^  discoveryme, thank you.  I try to be objective and I do find Diana's life and personality extremely interesting - the dynamics of the woman's extremely complex nature is rather an alluring study. I don't feel she, or anyone, is all black and white.  I think each of us are shades of grey - sadly, seeing those shades which make Diana more human imo, places many in an extremely defensive position which I find rather confusing, although I would understand it more from a family member or lover.

 



Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Royal Lowness on October 27, 2013, 06:14:13 pm
Earl Spencer was just being nasty to his sister. I think he was not exactly nice to his first two wives either.

I certainly think that Spencer was being nasty, but then Charles Spencer and Princess Diana were as different as chalk and cheese. She was a Goldsmith and thus a half sister to Charles Spencer. Each takes after their respective father in character.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 27, 2013, 08:11:45 pm
we can disagree to disagree. Diana looks like her paternal grandmother Cynthia Spencer. I think she's all Spencer.

I feel sorry for the kids Spencer had with the second wife. He up and left his second wife when his second child was born.

Just to comment on earlier posts further back (discoveryme), everybody here should be able to express opinions without being slammed. Calling other people's posts (that you don't agree with) Garbage is way out of line. There I said it. The same goes to defensiveness applied when Camlla is criticized here and some get personal. I'll go no further.

AnaBolena, (not addressing you when I write this and this does not apply to you) but not only pro Diana people get defensive on this board.  Diana was no saint and not a person totally good but not totally bad--but she has been practically demonized by people who dont care for her.  I don't think people see Diana in black and white, there are gray areas on this board.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Polonia on October 27, 2013, 08:37:57 pm
Here I agree with Sandy - I too think that Diana is ALL Spencer.

The reason for this being that this marriage would NEVER have been allowed had it been otherwise.

Diana was an ideal bride because through her Spencer blood she brought the blood of the Stuarts back into the Royal Family - like many others, Diana was descended several times from Charles II through the illegitimate line but also, which is very infrequent, she was descended from James II through his liaison with Arabella Churchill, sister of the great Marlborough. Descendants of James II in the British aristocracy are very rare as these descendants are mostly to be found in Spain in the Dukes of Alba who bear the surname FitzJames Stuart.

There is an excellent book entitled HRH by Sir Iain Moncrieffe of that Ilk written before the birth of Prince William which shows all his bloodlines from both his parents - Diana's lineage is just wonderful and full of interest.

Diana's close friend Rosamund Monckton always said tha Diana would say to herself as she looked in the mirror - Remember you are a Spencer!!!

And, like Sandy in a previous post, I also think that Harry is the Charles child.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Royal Lowness on October 27, 2013, 11:53:59 pm
Diana was not ALL Spencer - she was half Roche for a start.

And she was not in the least like her half-sisters and her half-brother, nor like Johnny Spencer. In character and in looks, she was very similar to Sir James Goldsmith, which makes her also a half-sister of Jemima Khan, and of Zak Goldsmith.

This goes a long way towards explaining why Charles Spencer was so horrible to his half-sister, denying her sanctuary at the family estate when she needed it and circulating comments about her alleged mental state. He rakes in the money after her murder by allowing paying visitors into the place that he denied her access to.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 28, 2013, 12:02:34 am
I think Frances would have dumped John for Goldsmith had she been pregnant with his baby. She ditched the marriage for Shand Kydd and I think she would have wanted to be with the father of her baby if Goldsmith fathered Diana. Also John Spencer was taking Frances to doctors to see why she could not produce a boy--she was monitored constantly making it difficult to bolt. John also hoped Diana would be a boy and I think he'd have known if Frances were carrying another man's child and passing the child off as a Spencer heir. If there were any suspicion of Diana's legitimacy I think Prince Charles would not have considered Diana as a match.

But the selling point for me is the resemblance between Cynthia Spencer and Diana. Her brother notes it in the Diana exhibit.

It could be that Earl Spencer could act like a jerk from time to time which possibly is why he slammed Diana. He also should have not made promises to his sister before he considered all angles. He should have been sure about it when he offered this to her. But the two made up before she died.

I think the Diana exhibit was a good thing and he did have the exhibit travel throughout the world. 


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Royal Lowness on October 28, 2013, 12:09:54 am
Frances was treated abominably and was denied even seeing her daughter's body.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Polonia on October 28, 2013, 12:29:19 am
Actually IMO Charles Spencer was / is  an all round jerk full stop.

He treated his wives and girl friends badly.

He also treated his friends badly eg when his best man Darius Guppy was in jail he tried to seduce Guppy's wife!!!

His behavior towards Diana in her lifetime is just part of his all round pattern - neither he or any of his children turned up at his nephew's recent wedding.

For what it is worth IMO it is perfect that Diana's grave is at Althorp - that is where she belongs.



Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: sandy on October 28, 2013, 12:41:55 am
I wonder how his successor Louis will turn out. I haven't heard much about him in the press. He is Viscount Althorp now. what riled me about Earl Spencer was how he moaned about having to bring three girls into the world before he could get the male heir. This sexism is outrageous.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: CathyJane on October 28, 2013, 03:09:49 am
History has a habit repeating itself. Sarah, Jane, Diana and then Charlie. Kitty, the twins and the Louis.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Snowpea on October 30, 2013, 01:21:47 am
I wonder how his successor Louis will turn out. I haven't heard much about him in the press. He is Viscount Althorp now. what riled me about Earl Spencer was how he moaned about having to bring three girls into the world before he could get the male heir. This sexism is outrageous.

Even the Royals never cared too much about the heir having to be a boy. In fact, they seem to prefer their daughters to their sons anyway.
Spencers were always dysfunctional and troubled; they brought most of their problems on themselves.  :easter-sly:


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: CathyJane on October 30, 2013, 02:58:37 am
A lot of old money have to have sons for the line to stay with the 'original' line. If Charles Spencer hadn't been born Althorp and all that entails would pass to a cousin of Johnnie and (correct me if I wrong) the girls would retain the title of Lady but would no longer have that inheritance and would in all probability be just like the rest of us.


Title: Re: Which Illness Was Earl Spencer Speaking Of?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 30, 2013, 09:34:12 am
Please let's stop going off topic and remember that all opinions are accepted. What it is not is people being rude.

Do not make me close this thread too.  :bored:


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on November 01, 2013, 04:16:17 pm
A little information on Princess Diana's mother:

Shand Kydd was a Roman Catholic, born Frances Ruth Roche in Park House, on the royal estate at Sandringham, Norfolk, on 20 January 1936 Her father was Edmund Roche, 4th Baron Fermoy, a friend of King George VI and the elder son of the American heiress Frances Work and her first husband, the 3rd Baron Fermoy. Her mother, Ruth Roche, Baroness Fermoy, was a confidante and lady-in-waiting to Queen Elizabeth (later the Queen Mother). In her own right since birth she held the style of The Honourable as the daughter of a baron. After Diana's death on 31 August 1997, Shand Kydd devoted the final years of her life to Roman Catholic charity work.

Shand Kydd died in a Scottish hospital at the age of 68 on 3 June 2004   following a long illness that included Parkinson's disease and brain cancer. Her funeral at the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Oban was attended by many of her children and grandchildren, including Princes William (who gave a reading) and
Harry.

Lord St. John of Fawsley who was one of the friends of the Spencer family, paid tribute to Frances. He said :
"She was a very kind and caring person who loved her daughter, the Princess of Wales, very much. She found lasting peace and comfort in the Catholic Church".


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on November 01, 2013, 04:27:34 pm
Video of  France Shand Kydd. Princess Diana's mother.
Frances Shand Kydd (20 January 1936 – 3 June 2004) R. I. P.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etogk5YO3XU


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on November 01, 2013, 04:43:25 pm
An interesting article on Diana's mother.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/907276.stm


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on November 01, 2013, 08:53:30 pm
That's so sad.

Diana's mother had a sad life in the end. Her husband she bolted with, ended up leaving her.

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The grandmother of the future king spent her last days in a wheelchair and found it difficult to talk.

The sadness of her death mirrored the tragedies that dogged her life.

As well as the death of Diana, she lost a newborn son in1960,a brother to suicide in 1984, and a stepson step·son 

A spouse's son by a previous union.  A drug overdose is the accidental or intentional use of a drug or medicine in an amount that is higher than is normally used.  earlier this year.

She was branded an unfit mother when she left Di's father for another manand lost custody of her children in a notorious divorce case.

Her new husband, wallpaper tycoon Peter Shand Kydd, later dumped her for a younger woman
.

And from the moment Diana got engaged to Prince Charles Noun 1. Prince Charles - the eldest son of Elizabeth II and heir to the English throne (born in 1948)
Charles , Shand Kydd hated the pressure that went with being the princess's mum.

Royal historian Hugo Vickers said: 'She led a rather tragic life really. I think in her last years shewas rather a lonely woman.'

Shand Kydd died yesterday morning at her modest bungalow on Seil.

Catholic priest Canon Donald MacKay Donald Mackay (13 September 1933 - 15 July 1977), was an Australian anti-drugs campaigner who came to fame in 1977 through the circumstances of his presumed murder.

Mackay was born in Griffith and raised in Sydney.  was with her, and gave her the last rites.

Sources said her funeral would be held at St Columba's Cathedral in Oban on Thursday. Shand Kydd was rushed to hospital in the town in April after her condition worsened. Her children raced north to be with her.

She was allowed home from hospital last month and given full-time care at home.

But she knew there was no hope of recovery and had bought her own burial plot in Oban.

Her son, Earl Spencer Earl Spencer is a title in the Peerage of Great Britain that was created on 1 November 1765, along with the title Viscount Althorp, of Althorp in the County of Northampton, for John Spencer, 1st Viscount Spencer, a great-grandson of the 1st Duke of Marlborough. , and his sisters, Lady Sarah McCorquodale The Lady Elizabeth Sarah Lavinia McCorquodale (born 19 March, 1955) is the eldest daughter of Edward Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer, and his first wife, Frances (formerly the Honourable Frances Burke Roche). Diana, Princess of Wales, was her younger sister.  and Lady Jane Fellowes, begged her to move south so they could look after her. But she always refused to leave her beloved Scotland.

Yesterday, a spokesman for her son, Charles confirmed: 'Earl Spencer's mother passed away peacefully after a long illness.

'This is private time for the family to grieve.'

The Queen sent a private message of condolence to the earl. Prince Charles said: 'I am very saddened by the death of Mrs Shand Kydd, who will be sorely missed.'

Royal sources said Prince William had been keeping in touch with the Spencers over Shand Kydd's illness. Prince Harry, 19, is in Africa as part of his gap year.

The two boys would visit their granny in secret, taking the train to Oban under police escort. Shand Kydd would take them fishing, or for picnics in the country.


But she spent much of her time on Seil alone, taking long walks or watching TV at home.

She supported church charities, helping to raise pounds 50,000 towards a Catholic House of Prayer on Iona.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/LONELY+END+OF+DIANA%27S+SAD+MUM%3b+A+LIFE+OF+TURMOIL+FOR+THE+MOTHER+OF...-a0117653050


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: sandy on November 01, 2013, 11:29:50 pm
Raine Spencer the step great grandmother is still alive.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on November 01, 2013, 11:30:38 pm
Raine Spencer is still alive.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: berlin on November 01, 2013, 11:36:51 pm
I wish she had stayed with Earl Spencer.  They could have lived separate lives once she had Charles.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on November 02, 2013, 12:13:19 am
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The British media made comparisons between the lives of Shand Kydd and Diana because they were both inexperienced young women who were thrust into the spotlight by marriage to much older men in higher stations.[citation needed]
 
Her marriage to Viscount Althorp was not a happy one and, in 1967, she left to be with Peter Shand Kydd, an heir to a wallpaper fortune whom she had met the year before. Subsequently, she was named "the other woman" in Janet Shand Kydd's divorce action against her husband.



On 14 July 1976, Viscount Althorp married Raine, Countess of Dartmouth, the daughter of the novelist Barbara Cartland. He eventually won a bitter custody battle over his children.[10] Frances and Peter Shand Kydd were married on 2 May 1969 and lived on the remote Scottish island of Seil. Although she lived a quiet life, she was forced into public view following the engagement of Diana to Prince Charles on 24 February 1981.[11] Shand Kydd and her second husband separated in June 1988 after he left her for a younger woman.[4] She blamed the pressure of media attention for the breakdown of the marriage.
In 1996, she was banned from driving after being convicted of drunk-driving, but denied she had a problem with alcohol. She and Diana quarrelled in May 1997 after she told Hello! magazine that Diana was happy to lose her title of "Her Royal Highness" following her controversial divorce from Prince Charles. She was reportedly not on speaking terms with her daughter by the time of Diana's death.[12]
 
Following Diana's death, Shand Kydd made a point of visiting the family of Henri Paul, the driver of the Mercedes which Diana and her companion, Dodi Fayed, were in when it crashed in Pont de l'Alma tunnel in Paris, killing all three of them. She stated, "Strange though it may seem, my daughter's funeral was probably the proudest day of my life. Proud of her, proud of my elder daughters who were rock steady in their readings, and my son who gave the ultimate tribute of brotherly love for her."[13] In 2002, she testified at the trial of Diana's former butler, Paul Burrell.[14] She spent her later years in solitude on Seil.[14] She became a Roman Catholic in 1994[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Shand_Kydd


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Yooper on November 02, 2013, 04:38:32 am
Thank you, Kahleigh, for all the neat pictures!   Although we unfortunately have no idea how Diana would look today, in these photos there is little resemblance to PD that I can find in her sisters, Jane and Sarah.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 02, 2013, 06:11:56 am
The Spencers are socially more prominent than most earls, mainly since their title is part of their time. Raine had moved up; previously she was married to the Earl of Dartmouth and as a result, the Spencers were a step up socially, no matter how (in some cases) recent their title was (in comparison to most titles at the time).

I wish she had stayed with Earl Spencer.  They could have lived separate lives once she had Charles.

They were; thing is, that Diana's father was an abuser. Frances was living in the city, but often had to return, but in the end Frances had to leave and get out like any smart woman does when a husband becomes an abuser. Frances herself married at seventeen, pushed by her own mother into marriage with Johnnie.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on November 03, 2013, 01:07:37 pm
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Princess Diana’s brother is ­renting her ancestral home to guests who are ­prepared to pay thousands

Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/stay-princess-dianas-family-home-2670893#ixzz2jaMnFhhj


Princess Diana’s brother is ­renting her ancestral home to guests who are ­prepared to pay thousands for the privilege of an evening under the historic roof, the Sunday People can reveal.

Earl Spencer, 49, has set up a nice little earner on his Althorp estate – where Diana is buried – by charging £25,000 a night to parties of visitors flushed with cash.

That is the fee for a one-off exclusive use of the house for groups of up to 50 at a time, according to the posh Condé Nast Traveller magazine.

You can also rent it for a week. A five-course dinner is £300 per head extra. Groups can have the meal served in the ornate grand picture ­gallery for a further £10,000.

Bed and breakfast is £500 per head on top. The full monty for a party of 50 would bring in £75,000 a night.

 “It does not get much grander than this,” Condé Nast’s website reports. The blurb goes on: “Seat of the Spencer family and ­childhood home of Diana, Princess of Wales, the property has a series of ­staterooms, a library and a ­picture gallery that can seat 200 for dinner. Sleeps 50, from £10,000 per week.”



Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/stay-princess-dianas-family-home-2670893#ixzz2jaU7aohn


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Nighthawk on November 03, 2013, 10:26:12 pm
Earl Spencer rents out Diana's ancestral family home Althorp estate for £25,000-a-night to groups of up to 50
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2486040/Earl-Spencer-rents-Dianas-ancestral-family-home-Althorp-estate-25-000-night-groups-50.html#ixzz2jckR447h


lets cash in on the dead Princess Diana wow what family won't do to make cash.  What a di** greedy much


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: RoyalWatcher on November 03, 2013, 10:57:34 pm
Must be awfully expensive to have those huge homes...........have to generate revenue some how.  Its not like Chuck Spencer is going to end up marrying a wealthy american who's family has billions to shore up the Spencer family homestead.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on November 03, 2013, 11:07:07 pm
Earl Spencer rents out Diana's ancestral family home Althorp estate for £25,000-a-night to groups of up to 50
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2486040/Earl-Spencer-rents-Dianas-ancestral-family-home-Althorp-estate-25-000-night-groups-50.html#ixzz2jckR447h


lets cash in on the dead Princess Diana wow what family won't do to make cash.  What a di** greedy much

He should have stuck with the travelling Diana exhibit. He criticized his father and stepmother for trying to get ready cash and he's doing the same thing now.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: RoyalWatcher on November 03, 2013, 11:09:40 pm
Desperate measures perhaps?

With how many ex-wives and child support.......and exactly what DOES he do for a living?  Besides marry women and have children?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Countess of Holland on November 04, 2013, 02:08:00 pm
Earl Spencer rents out Diana's ancestral family home Althorp estate for £25,000-a-night to groups of up to 50
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2486040/Earl-Spencer-rents-Dianas-ancestral-family-home-Althorp-estate-25-000-night-groups-50.html#ixzz2jckR447h


lets cash in on the dead Princess Diana wow what family won't do to make cash.  What a di** greedy much

He is not the only Earl or Duke who is renting out his ancestral home. Unlike the royals, these peers often need to pay for the upkeep of these grand estates themselves. And they all 'use' their ancestors or relations of ancestors to market the house, from Hotspur Percy to Bess Hardwick and the Duke of Marlborough. The only difference is that we all remember the person Diana and we weren't alive when some other illustrious ancestors like Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire, were alive.

I can't see any fault in the Earl renting out part of his house for events. I am glad that he is taking care of his ancestral home. Better that than transforming the whole house to some ghastly conference hotel with no soul and no memory of the family.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on November 04, 2013, 02:52:42 pm
Diana's stepmother sold many of the estate's objects of arts  that should had not been sold. They belonged to the Spencer family for centuries. That is why Diana and siblings were rightfully angry.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: RoyalWatcher on November 04, 2013, 03:53:00 pm
Perhaps Diana and her siblings weren't aware of the financial conditions of the estate, that a fresh infusion of cash was needed to maintain or keep the estate. 

The heating bills must be astronomic.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Countess of Holland on November 04, 2013, 04:09:10 pm
All sorts of bills must be tremendous in a house like that. I recall once having read an interview with the Duke of Argyll and he said that just renewing the central heating in his house had set him back about 1 million pounds.
Think about new plumbing! I had just had some work done on my 1500 square feet appartment (150 square meters), just some new wiring and new window-panes with double glazing and it set me back 15K. Just imagine the maintenance costs for a house like Althorp!

And renting out the house on occasion is a much better scenario than selling of family heirlooms in my opinion.


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: AnaBolena on November 04, 2013, 05:50:43 pm
^ I am sure Raine would love to see and hold this baby.  She deserves that much.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: serene grace on November 04, 2013, 09:45:12 pm
IMO He's being a smart businessman, if these Aristocratic estates are going to be preserved and kept in the family, then renting parts of the house out is a wise move.

I'm not sure why the press is making such a big deal about this with Earl Spencer, he's been renting Althorp out for years for weddings, events, concerts, films.



Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on November 04, 2013, 10:13:52 pm
Earl Spencer rents out Diana's ancestral family home Althorp estate for £25,000-a-night to groups of up to 50
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2486040/Earl-Spencer-rents-Dianas-ancestral-family-home-Althorp-estate-25-000-night-groups-50.html#ixzz2jckR447h


lets cash in on the dead Princess Diana wow what family won't do to make cash.  What a di** greedy much

He is not the only Earl or Duke who is renting out his ancestral home. Unlike the royals, these peers often need to pay for the upkeep of these grand estates themselves. And they all 'use' their ancestors or relations of ancestors to market the house, from Hotspur Percy to Bess Hardwick and the Duke of Marlborough. The only difference is that we all remember the person Diana and we weren't alive when some other illustrious ancestors like Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire, were alive.

I can't see any fault in the Earl renting out part of his house for events. I am glad that he is taking care of his ancestral home. Better that than transforming the whole house to some ghastly conference hotel with no soul and no memory of the family.


 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: CathyJane on November 04, 2013, 11:04:15 pm
I agree. Raine and Diana had become friends in the year or so before she died.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 04, 2013, 11:09:28 pm
The Percy family and the Howards (Dukes of Norfolk) rent their rooms to the public and the Ducal House of Richmond do the same. The Richmonds hold annual sporting events. He's not doing anything that his other peers aren't and it's tiring hearing about how Sacred Diana is being exploited. He's just changing with the changing times.

Diana's stepmother sold many of the estate's objects of arts  that should had not been sold. They belonged to the Spencer family for centuries. That is why Diana and siblings were rightfully angry.

Exactly; second, Diana and her siblings barely saved the sheets that Sir Winston Churchill spilled ink on while penning his memoirs and Raine wasn't selling for a very high price if she wasn't able to end up making much and had to keep selling and selling and selling all the time.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on November 05, 2013, 12:19:12 am
The Spencers are socially more prominent than most earls, mainly since their title is part of their time. Raine had moved up; previously she was married to the Earl of Dartmouth and as a result, the Spencers were a step up socially, no matter how (in some cases) recent their title was (in comparison to most titles at the time).

I wish she had stayed with Earl Spencer.  They could have lived separate lives once she had Charles.

They were; thing is, that Diana's father was an abuser. Frances was living in the city, but often had to return, but in the end Frances had to leave and get out like any smart woman does when a husband becomes an abuser. Frances herself married at seventeen, pushed by her own mother into marriage with Johnnie.

Exactly, plus she didn't owe anybody a son. Human females over males that haven't been born yet anyday.


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: sandy on November 05, 2013, 12:32:05 am
I wonder why she could not have been invited to the Christening. I hope William at least brings George to see her. She's the only one left of his granddad's generation.


Title: Re: did dianas mom see baby george
Post by: india on November 05, 2013, 05:19:09 am
He really is one nasty, selfish small minded petty little person.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on November 06, 2013, 05:52:44 pm
Perhaps Diana and her siblings weren't aware of the financial conditions of the estate, that a fresh infusion of cash was needed to maintain or keep the estate. 

The heating bills must be astronomic.


You would have a point in what you said except the stepmother went and spent a lot of money in newer more modern objects after selling the heirlooms and museum art works.
I read in a book that stepmother "AcidRain" even threw out a very old and expensive curtain that Diana and her sister then took with them.
However, it is true that the bills to keep those homes are astronomical!
 


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on November 28, 2013, 01:19:58 pm
Lady Kitty Spencer attended the Give Us Time event for returned servicemen in London, she also attended the Fashion for the Brave Household Calvary event that Princess Beatrice is patron of a few weeks ago, however the only pictures of Kitty at this event are on instagram.
I thought I would add that she also recently gained a masters degree from Regents College in London, and I’m pretty sure she’s not with cricketer Nick Compton anymore, and hasn’t been for awhile judging by several comments on her instagram.
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With her glossy blonde hair, demure smile and outgoing personality, Lady Kitty Spencer bears more than a passing resemblance to her late aunt, Princess Diana.
And last night Earl Spencer's daughter Lady Kitty followed in her relative's charitable footsteps by supporting a high-profile event in London in aid of servicemen back from war zones.
Dressed in an eye-catching floor-length cream and gold gown, Lady Kitty met with soldiers from 11 EOD regiment after their tour in Afghanistan at the Give Us Time event. The charity helps service personnel to have holidays with their families after tours in war zones
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2514869/Princess-Dianas-niece-Lady-Kitty-Spencer-attends-charity-party-London.html
From the Household Calvary event with Michelle Mone OBE (pics are from Michelle's instagram)
http://web.stagram.com/p/585342418331906562_184037315
http://web.stagram.com/p/584865914821030210_184037315


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: benign on November 28, 2013, 11:23:29 pm
He is not the only Earl or Duke who is renting out his ancestral home. Unlike the royals, these peers often need to pay for the upkeep of these grand estates themselves. And they all 'use' their ancestors or relations of ancestors to market the house, from Hotspur Percy to Bess Hardwick and the Duke of Marlborough. The only difference is that we all remember the person Diana and we weren't alive when some other illustrious ancestors like Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire, were alive.
I can't see any fault in the Earl renting out part of his house for events. I am glad that he is taking care of his ancestral home. Better that than transforming the whole house to some ghastly conference hotel with no soul and no memory of the family.
I agree. I highly doubt the Earl likes the idea of renting part of his estate but its a good business decision. good luck and its good of him to want to keep it in the family.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on November 30, 2013, 04:03:25 am
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on January 01, 2014, 11:22:02 am
For anyone who is interested here is a video from the wedding of Alexander Fellowes and Alexandra Finlay back in September, the video is from their wedding planner, who is also best friends with the bride. You can see them exchange rings and hear part of Alexanders speech, the wedding looks elegant and quite intimate, the flowers are gorgeous and the chapel they were married in looks beautiful. Imo I don't like her wedding dress, another Emilia Wickstead mess, but at least this one looks made relatively well, and it seems to suit the bride and the overall aesthetic of the wedding, so it does look nice all together. Also if you are paying attention, you can spot Jane and Laura Fellowes in the crowd during his speech and if you look closely at 1:25 there is a place setting for a certain Harry Wales on the right side of the table.
Its the same video, but I thought I would post both vimeo and youtube links, in case you prefer one video player over the other:
http://vimeo.com/79499555
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJF8W5BpLaU


Title: Re: Prince William's uncle Earl Spencer engaged to charity worker
Post by: Rock n royal on April 01, 2014, 06:04:25 pm
waht a pity. i bet carole wuld LOVE to have married Diana's brother and become Countess Spencer. or Pippa.

Or if one wanted ot be REALLY MODERN, Earl Spencer could have married JAMES

I know this comment is old, so forgive me bringing it back. I am reading through posts and have just found this.

I read this KF and burst out laughing, my daughter who is bisexual asked me what I was laughing as, so I showed her. She also creased up laughing. I think you scored a winning goal with this remark.  :tehe:  :flower:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on April 01, 2014, 10:32:12 pm
 :laugh:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: YooperModerator on April 01, 2014, 10:49:52 pm
^^Thanks for resurrecting that RnR!   :laugh:  I rarely use that emoticon but it applies strongly here.  I laughed right out loud with a mouthful of apple juice.  A KF Classic.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Rock n royal on May 01, 2014, 09:11:00 pm
I'm not sure if this has been posted before, here is some lovely photo's of the entire Spencer clan. Some made me smile, some a little teary. Enjoy!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/47368377@N07/sets/72157625415405580/detail/

I'm pleased you enjoyed my resurrect but I think the credit must go to Kuei Fei. lol


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on May 02, 2014, 03:59:45 am
Thanks for the link!!!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: cate1949 on May 02, 2014, 04:01:32 am
loved the pic where Diana and her sisters are in a car and they are all laughing uproariously - would love to have known what the joke was.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: RoyalWatcher on May 02, 2014, 04:37:59 pm
^^^

had to be about a guy! 


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kahleigh on June 25, 2014, 07:37:24 am
Lady Kitty Spencer has recently done an interview with Diary Magazine, she talks about her upbringing, education, moving to London and her new job with the Give Us Time Charity:
http://diarymagazine.com/diary-magazine-exclusive-interview-lady-kitty-spencer/

Also Emily Hutt (McCorquodale) and her husband James welcomed a daughter on 18 June, named Isabella Rosemary
http://peeragenews.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/isabella-rosemary-hutt-born-2014.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on June 26, 2014, 03:50:58 am
Congratulations Emily and James! And to the grandparents!!

Wasn't one of Jane's daughters preggers during W&W's wedding?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on August 17, 2014, 06:48:03 pm
Diana's chef accuses Earl Spencer of neglecting her final resting place - and posts pictures of pond full of algae
Diana, Princess of Wales' former chef has attacked her brother Earl Spencer for what he calls the neglect of her final resting place at his Althorp Estate in Northamptonshire.

Darren McGrady, who cooked for Diana as well as the Queen has posted several photographs of the memorial on Twitter, showing the lake near her grave covered in algae.

However, the estate has maintained that her burial site is being well looked after, saying the hot summer months had caused the algae to spread quickly, making it more difficult to remove - and that this has been a widespread problem for waterways across the country.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727069/Diana-s-chef-accuses-Earl-Spencer-neglecting-final-resting-place-posts-pictures-overgrown-grave-pond-algae.html



Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on August 17, 2014, 06:51:26 pm
William and Harry are Diana's next of kin. How come they are not blamed?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on August 18, 2014, 03:21:51 am
Right all that money William and Kate spending on decorating why not use some of that money to upkeep the grave ,and harry he needs to get on it too


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: cate1949 on August 18, 2014, 03:50:07 am
maybe because Harry and Will know she is not buried there - it is just a memorial for her.

Anyway algae is normal in late summer especially a hot summer.  Once a chill comes it will die off - they should try a aerating fountain if the barley straw isn't doing it.

My bet is Diana lies with her family at the Church - not an ornamental island.  First off - the island was used to bury family pets - so hardly a place to bury her.  Second - it would be wet.  Third - didn't her will say she wanted to be buried with her father and family? So I bet she is not buried there - the article says her actual gravesite is not known.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on August 18, 2014, 04:34:29 am
This is just so sad. Poor Diana.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on August 18, 2014, 04:56:11 am
William and Harry are not responsible for anything at Althorpe. Earl Spencer is.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Jane23 on August 18, 2014, 11:03:51 am
Someone was looking for attention I see ...


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: meememe on August 18, 2014, 11:07:21 am
Her sons aren't responsible because the island is on private property and they don't own that property. Their Uncle Charles does.

As for her will - all it said was 'I wish to be buried'.

No mention of where - but it was reported that she had expressed that wish verbally, or even in writing, to others but it wasn't in her actual will.  http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9803/04/diana.will/


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Jane23 on August 18, 2014, 03:12:22 pm
maybe because Harry and Will know she is not buried there - it is just a memorial for her.

Anyway algae is normal in late summer especially a hot summer.  Once a chill comes it will die off - they should try a aerating fountain if the barley straw isn't doing it.

My bet is Diana lies with her family at the Church - not an ornamental island.  First off - the island was used to bury family pets - so hardly a place to bury her.  Second - it would be wet.  Third - didn't her will say she wanted to be buried with her father and family? So I bet she is not buried there - the article says her actual gravesite is not known.
But the fact that is not her grave won't matter to someone looking for attention like this guy is ...


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: AnaBolena on August 18, 2014, 03:36:00 pm
Honestly, if it was me dead and buried it wouldn't matter where and I highly doubt I'd be bothered what state my grave was in.  Dead is kind of, ummm, dead?  As in finito.  If there's an afterlife then one would not be buried, would one? And if there is nothingness then no one has a clue - you know, dust to dust.   It's people that keep up this hysteria, not the dead - the dead are mercifully all unknowing.   I think the chef is up to no good with this.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on August 18, 2014, 07:40:49 pm
Me thinks the chef is wanting to sell cook books.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on August 18, 2014, 08:13:59 pm
Her sons aren't responsible because the island is on private property and they don't own that property. Their Uncle Charles does.

As for her will - all it said was 'I wish to be buried'.

No mention of where - but it was reported that she had expressed that wish verbally, or even in writing, to others but it wasn't in her actual will.  http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9803/04/diana.will/

They are Diana's next of kin. Of course they have responsibility --she is their deceased mother. Cemeteries are not owned by next of kin but next of kin still have responsibility.



Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: cate1949 on August 18, 2014, 09:01:56 pm
algae in the lake is not a defilement of her memory - it is a seasonal consequence of nature so I can't blame H and W for that - I do agree that even if the land is not their's they should certainly see to it that their mother's grave is well tended. 


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on October 23, 2014, 07:27:30 pm
Lady Kitty Spencer follows in aunt Princess Diana's charitable footsteps as she hosts prestigious event in London with mother (who still looks glamorous on crutches)

With her perfectly tousled blonde hair, demure smile and outgoing personality, Lady Kitty Spencer bears more than a passing resemblance to her late aunt, Princess Diana.

And last night Earl Spencer's daughter followed in her relative's charitable footsteps by supporting a high-profile event in London in aid of servicemen.

Dressed in an eye-catching floor-length red gown, Lady Kitty arrived at the Corinthia Hotel London for the Give Us Time Gala with her mother, Victoria Aitken.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2804585/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-follows-aunt-Princess-Diana-s-charitable-footsteps-hosts-prestigious-event-London-mother-looks-glamorous-crutches.html

The Spencer girls are some pretty ladies Kitty,Amelia and Eliza




Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on October 23, 2014, 09:03:51 pm
Kitty is gorgeous but her poor mother Victoria has been ravaged by the effects of anorexia. At one time, she was quite the beauty.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on October 23, 2014, 10:05:06 pm
^yeah she is a beauty.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on October 24, 2014, 03:13:45 am
All of Charles Spencer's kids are so much better looking than Willy.  :P


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: cate1949 on October 24, 2014, 04:17:17 am
apparently they still eat in South Africa - she looks great and has that rapidly vanishing thing - curves!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 21, 2015, 08:11:56 pm
The Royal Family will NOT last another 100 years, claims Princess Diana’s brother

THE Royal Family will NOT survive the next century, the late Princess Diana's brother has explosively claimed.

Charles Spencer - the youngest brother of Diana, Princess of Wales – has stated his view that the monarchy will crumble within 100 years.

During an interview on his latest book tour, the author and broadcaster suggested the popularity of second-in-line to the throne Prince William and wife Kate, Duchess of Cambridge means the future of the Royal Family is safe for now.
http://nblo.gs/12Q5dJ


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on January 22, 2015, 03:54:28 am
He's right in that the monarchy won't last, but I believe Liz will be the last; nobody wants the heir and the heir's heir.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Rosella on January 22, 2015, 04:28:39 am
He's right in that the monarchy won't last, but I believe Liz will be the last; nobody wants the heir and the heir's heir.

So a republic will immediately be proclaimed if the Queen dies tomorrow, as she may do at her age?

 Remember, when a sovereign dies their heir instantly becomes king or queen. Plans for the next Coronation are now well in place.

None of us know what will happen in fifty years, let alone a hundred, least of all Charles Spencer, who probably hasn't had a really long conversation with his royal nephews in years.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: terrajoule on January 22, 2015, 05:10:13 am
Quote
Charles Spencer - the youngest brother of Diana, Princess of Wales – has stated his view that the monarchy will crumble within 100 years.

Try sooner, Charlie!  :bored: Times a'changin'.  :bored:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: gingerboy24 on January 22, 2015, 09:53:41 am
^m Agree, 100 years a gross exaggeration.  Between the Yorks and the Lamebridges, plus chucky and his dubious acquaintances (savile and co), can´t see the future being rosy or too long for them.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Mememe on January 22, 2015, 12:03:46 pm

I see everyone has found the latest from Charles.  100 years is quite a long time and since most of us wont be around it is a fairly easy/logical thing to state.


source:http://www.celebitchy.com/407542/charles_spencer_wonders_if_there_will_be_a_british_monarchy_in_100_years/


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on January 22, 2015, 12:15:03 pm
Charles Spencer is a puffed up pompous pr*ck. An arrogant brute who didn't help Diana out when she really needed him. He doesn't know jack.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: gingerboy24 on January 22, 2015, 12:31:04 pm
Never could stand him, but his daughter Kitty, she is so much like Princess Diana around the eyes, and quite tall like PD.  Has a fair bit of Aunt Diana in her.  Very attractive young woman indeed.

I rather suspect 100 years was being generous.  As most of us won´t be around then he can say what he likes, we will never know if true or not, unless it happens sooner, which is what a lot of people would  like.  I give the monarchy 50 years max, and I am being generous with that.  I won´t be here to find out, such a shame, would love to see it happen.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on January 22, 2015, 12:34:55 pm
I give it 25 years max. And, I do find Kitty to be quite charming also.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on January 22, 2015, 06:55:39 pm
He's right in that the monarchy won't last, but I believe Liz will be the last; nobody wants the heir and the heir's heir.

So a republic will immediately be proclaimed if the Queen dies tomorrow, as she may do at her age?

 Remember, when a sovereign dies their heir instantly becomes king or queen. Plans for the next Coronation are now well in place.

None of us know what will happen in fifty years, let alone a hundred, least of all Charles Spencer, who probably hasn't had a really long conversation with his royal nephews in years.

Coronation plans have been in place for years and Charles spinners have talked about the coronation for about 20 years now And the  Also funeral plans are made for all the royals well in advance that does not mean they will die tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Mememe on January 24, 2015, 02:50:14 am
From the outside, it seems weird to have all these plans made for ones life.  I wonder how often they are revised or changed?  Where are the plans kept?    Do you think the same has already been created for William ?  Or wi the plans form William be developed after he becomes heir?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Rosella on January 24, 2015, 03:19:14 am
There are contingency plans in place for all senior royals, for funerals etc. They are probably kept at the Lord Chamberlain's Office.When the Queen Mother was very old it happened to be revealed that the BBC had recordings already in place to be broadcast on her death. They have undoubtedly done the same for the Queen and PP.

Coronations are planned years, sometimes decades in advance. It wasn't always so well organised. When Queen Victoria died, very old people who had been present at her Coronation 64 years before were asked to remember some of the Order of Precedence etc as no-one could remember where the papers for such arrangements had been stored.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on January 24, 2015, 03:24:24 am
I don't think it's just for the Queen and Philip. I read funeral plans are also there for Charles and WIlliam and Harry.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Rosella on January 24, 2015, 03:45:46 am
I don't think it's just for the Queen and Philip. I read funeral plans are also there for Charles and WIlliam and Harry.

Yes, I wrote 'contingency plans for all senior royals'. In a way it's probably comforting to know everything is being taken care of.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on March 16, 2015, 08:07:33 pm
Charles Spencer on Diana, Althorp and the death of kings

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/charles-spencer-on-diana-althorp-and-the-death-of-kings/


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on March 28, 2015, 02:20:52 am
Wonder if Karen, Countess Spencer will be having another baby soon.  Actually he needs to quit fathering kids, being an old dad is not fun for the kids.  :sigh:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: terrajoule on March 28, 2015, 09:19:30 am
No. Just No.  :judge:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on April 01, 2015, 02:32:35 am
Princess Diana's Nephew Louis Spencer is HOT ... And He's a Huge Nicki Minaj Fan! -


The 32-year-old rapper took to Instagram over the weekend to share a new photo with a very special fan ... Princess Diana's nephew Louis Spencer. -

See more at: http://www.toofab.com/2015/03/30/princess-diana-nephew-louis-spencer-nicki-minaj-photos/#sthash.2qGyoYNP.dpuf


WOW


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on April 01, 2015, 03:58:24 am
Wonder if Ma would sic Pips on Louis? No matter of the age difference to Ma.  :nervous:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 01, 2015, 04:28:57 am
I think it was already mooted by the Spencers. Not possible.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on April 03, 2015, 04:15:36 pm
Princess Diana's Nephew Louis Spencer is HOT ... And He's a Huge Nicki Minaj Fan! -


The 32-year-old rapper took to Instagram over the weekend to share a new photo with a very special fan ... Princess Diana's nephew Louis Spencer. -

See more at: http://www.toofab.com/2015/03/30/princess-diana-nephew-louis-spencer-nicki-minaj-photos/#sthash.2qGyoYNP.dpuf


WOW

Ew....looks run of the mill kind of cheesy - not bad but not that great.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on April 03, 2015, 04:19:54 pm
Charles Spencer on Diana, Althorp and the death of kings

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/charles-spencer-on-diana-althorp-and-the-death-of-kings/

Okay, HIS family wouldn't be anything if they weren't constantly changing their alliances and cozying up to Royalty for 300 years. They always knew the score. Always. Champagne Charlie needs to just shut up and have a few more kids until he gets another cherished male, being as females in that family are seen as lower than @#$#@#$.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on April 04, 2015, 12:20:21 am
^^^Snowpea!!! :thumbsup:^^^


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on April 04, 2015, 12:42:58 am
I just *despise* that smug, pug-faced, hypocritical, smarmy cretin.  :snob:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on April 04, 2015, 04:34:00 am
I think Uncle Charlie is better looking than Willy horse face, even if Charlie is a smug faced jerk.  :shy:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on April 04, 2015, 06:49:00 am
I just *despise* that smug, pug-faced, hypocritical, smarmy cretin.  :snob:


I with you Snowpea. He really is a hypocritical, fat faced Piece Of Sh*t. When he wouldn't let Diana come to Althorpe that did it for me. And then, the oh so sanctimonious eulogy. I bet he was a brute to his first wife Victoria.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Stephie on April 06, 2015, 10:01:05 am
Charles Spencer was interviewed by Oprah recently, and it aired yesterday in the U.S. on her show, Oprah: Where Are They Now? on OWN (the Oprah Winfrey Network). I didn't catch the full episode, but here are a couple links to clips and info:

http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20395222_20912521,00.html

http://www.eonline.com/news/642748/princess-diana-s-brother-earl-charles-spencer-recalls-the-royal-engagement-with-oprah-watch-now




Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on April 20, 2015, 01:04:42 pm
I just *despise* that smug, pug-faced, hypocritical, smarmy cretin.  :snob:


I with you Snowpea. He really is a hypocritical, fat faced Piece Of Sh*t. When he wouldn't let Diana come to Althorpe that did it for me. And then, the oh so sanctimonious eulogy. I bet he was a brute to his first wife Victoria.

He was, by all accounts.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 05, 2015, 10:04:15 pm
Princess Diana's niece Lady Kitty Spencer looks divine in summery patterned maxi as she steps out in style at Polo in the Park

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3112719/Diana-s-niece-Lady-Kitty-Spencer-looks-divine-summery-patterned-maxi-makes-appearance-Polo-Park.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: YooperModerator on June 05, 2015, 11:46:38 pm
^Pretty girl but way too much of 'the girls' hanging out there for my taste.  Sorry!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: simplyme on June 15, 2015, 10:29:13 am
Yesterday lady kitty,  according her I she was at Cartier polo, but not I traction with her cousins  :dontknow:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: danifaul on July 04, 2015, 01:01:46 am

Kitty Spencer - Dockers Flannels for Heroes cricket match
http://www.tatler.com/bystander/events/2015/june/dockers-flannels-for-heroes-cricket-match#!/17967/image/4
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/lady-kitty-spencer-floella-benjamin-and-belinda-delucy-news-photo/477741088



Kitty Spencer - arrives at the serpentine gallery
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/kitty-spencer-arrives-at-the-serpentine-gallery-summer-news-photo/479302442
http://www.tatler.com/bystander/events/2015/july/serpentine-gallery-summer-party#!/18411/image/20


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Mememe on July 04, 2015, 02:22:54 am
^ Interesting pictures.  She has a really wonky eye.  I've not noticed it before.


What is going on with Kitty's legs (or toes) in this picture?  Her legs and toes are a completely different colour and texture.



source:  http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/kitty-spencer-attends-the-vogue-and-ralph-lauren-wimbledon-news-photo/478119784


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on July 04, 2015, 04:50:41 pm
Nothing wrong with Kitty.I notice no such defects.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: AnaBolena on July 05, 2015, 10:06:26 am
^^ Mememe, that's over-photoshopped legs; whole person actually to the point where there's no skin texture left even on her face.  The only normal thing is her toes.

^ Sandy, your monitor may not be calibrated enough to see it, but it's a really bad PS job.



Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on November 30, 2015, 09:42:27 pm
Unstoppable rise of Princess Diana's rather racy niece: Lady Kitty Spencer is striving to become famous in her own right despite 'big row with her father' after Tatler photoshoot

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3337017/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-striving-famous-right-despite-big-row-father-Tatler-photoshoot.html#ixzz3t0uKkKtg
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Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Rosella on November 30, 2015, 10:21:54 pm
^^ Kitty Spencer had a wonderful time in Australia and was featured several times in newspapers and magazines here. She came for the Melbourne Cup in early November and stayed on and on and on!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on December 01, 2015, 04:07:23 am
No more racy than most young women and she certainly hasn't flashed the world like her cousin in law.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 24, 2016, 01:23:23 am
the Media Eye ‏@MediaEyeTweets
Lady Kitty Spencer named ambassador for @centrepointuk http://ow.ly/YE1w3 


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on February 25, 2016, 02:46:54 am
At least one of Diana's relatives is interested in centerpoint.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on February 28, 2016, 11:20:30 pm
There was an article in Glamour about her and her work with the vets. I don't know if this was with another charity or also with centerpoint.

I would say that she likes attention but at least is doing something helpful at the same time.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 21, 2016, 06:48:29 pm
Lady Kitty Spencer wears Elizabethan ballgown for Viscountess Weymouth's 30th birthday party
Lady Kitty Spencer travelled back in time to attend the thirtieth birthday party of her friend Viscountess Weymouth. Kitty, who is Princess Diana's 25-year-old niece, stuck to the dress code and wore a traditional sweeping ballgown for the Elizabethan-themed bash at Longleat.

The pretty blonde posed at the bottom of a staircase with her boyfriend Niccolò Barattieri di San Pietro and captioned the magnificent shot on Instagram: "Thugs at the disco."
http://us.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2016032130443/lady-kitty-spencer-viscountess-weymouth-birthday/


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on March 28, 2016, 10:26:50 pm
They all look very un-Elizabethan and trashy. Somebody give that girl makeup lessons - who wears that much eyeliner? Raccoon eyes went out in the 80's.  :bored:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 29, 2016, 04:32:44 pm
I'll never understand why the Spencers are all so ill-disciplined; from Diana and her siblings to the present, the only thing keeping them from being called jet set trash are their titles. A lot of kids who come from wealth don't behave like this; their families would set them straight.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on July 09, 2016, 08:26:24 pm
Meet the new first lady of Althorp: Earl Spencer's third wife is transforming Diana's home with a bouncy castle in the dining room and grand plans for the Princess's grave

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3681646/Earl-Spencer-s-wife-transforming-Diana-s-home-bouncy-castle-dining-room-grand-plans-Princess-s-grave.html#ixzz4DwQj6K2a
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Princess Diana's niece Kitty Spencer joins the fash-pack sitting front row at the Schiaparelli show with A-listers Natalie Dormer and Laura Carmichael

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3673499/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-joins-fash-pack-sits-pole-position-Schiaparelli-listers-Natalie-Dormer-Laura-Carmichael.html#ixzz4DwRFwyxI
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Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on July 31, 2016, 02:49:04 pm
Latest reports claimed that the Duchess of Cambridge was shocked over Princess Diana’s brother Charles Spencer

Oh no! Is Catherine Duchess of Cambridge feuding with Princess Diana’s relatives? Well, latest reports claimed that the Duchess of Cambridge was shocked over Princess Diana’s brother Charles Spencer and his third wife Karen Gordon for planning to turn the Spencer family property known as Althorp Estate into a “bed and breakfast.”
http://www.viral-news.net/latest-reports-claimed-that-the-duchess-of-cambridge-was-shocked-over-princess-dianas-brother-charles-spencer-and-his-third-wife-karen-gordon-for-planning/#.V5pHS1dllPM


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on July 31, 2016, 05:26:33 pm
LOL maybe Will but Kate? What does she have to do with the Spencers?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HennyPenny on July 31, 2016, 05:49:00 pm
Whoever wrote this article should have their computer privileges revoked .  I almost fell off the couch when they said the Queen has to approve Pippa's marriage....  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on July 31, 2016, 07:16:37 pm
LOL maybe Will but Kate? What does she have to do with the Spencers?

My thoughts exactly. The Spencers wouldn't acknowledge waity let alone give a fig what she and her trash family think.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 01, 2016, 03:32:35 am
Latest reports claimed that the Duchess of Cambridge was shocked over Princess Diana’s brother Charles Spencer

Oh no! Is Catherine Duchess of Cambridge feuding with Princess Diana’s relatives? Well, latest reports claimed that the Duchess of Cambridge was shocked over Princess Diana’s brother Charles Spencer and his third wife Karen Gordon for planning to turn the Spencer family property known as Althorp Estate into a “bed and breakfast.”
http://www.viral-news.net/latest-reports-claimed-that-the-duchess-of-cambridge-was-shocked-over-princess-dianas-brother-charles-spencer-and-his-third-wife-karen-gordon-for-planning/#.V5pHS1dllPM

LOL maybe Will but Kate? What does she have to do with the Spencers?

Just another round of Kate getting hysterical over something. She's such a chronic drama queen it's gross.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: kolkomilko on August 01, 2016, 07:33:41 am
Omg, is she joking, isn't she?  :Kate:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on August 12, 2016, 06:07:23 pm
With the death of the Duke of Westminster, I started thinking about how Sarah expected to marry him someday.  I feel kind of sorry for her in that as the oldest she was expected to marry extremely well, perhaps the best of all three daughters, but as it turned out her baby sister ended up a Princess and her younger sister a Baroness while she is still Lady Sarah.

And does anybody else notice Tally looks quite a bit like Sarah? Or am I just crazy?  8)


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 18, 2016, 03:33:08 am
I oftne think the biggest mistake the Spencer family did the girls is how they instilled so much pride in them, that they felt entitled to the best and didn't know how to handle rejection in any mature way. I think Sarah was crushed big time when she 'failed' to land the Duke and frankly I think it was a little issue of lineage as well.

This is the lineage of the Dowager Duchess:

Quote
They also descend from Pushkin, the Russian author and nobleman, as well as from his African great-grandfather, Abram Petrovich Gannibal, the youth believed to have belonged to a family of tribal chieftains who became a protégé of Peter the Great.

The sisters' maternal grandmother was born Countess Anastasia de Torby (later Lady "Zia" Wernher), younger morganatic daughter of Grand Duke Michael Mihailovich of Russia (a grandson of Tsar Nicholas I) by his wife Countess Sophie von Merenberg, morganatic daughter of Prince Nikolaus of Nassau (himself brother of Adolphe, Grand Duke of Luxembourg) by his wife Natalya Aleksandrovna, Pushkin's younger daughter.[9]

Lady Zia's sister Countess Nadezhda de Torby (or "Nada") was the wife of Prince George of Battenberg (later George Mountbatten, 2nd Marquess of Milford Haven), elder maternal uncle of the Duke of Edinburgh. The Torby sisters were third cousins of the prince through their common ancestor, Tsar Nicholas I.[9] Natalia's paternal grandparents were Col. Joseph Harold John Phillips and his wife Mary Mercedes Bryce, whose niece Janet Mercedes Bryce (daughter of Major Francis Bryce of Hamilton, Bermuda) married David

I think as native born Englishwomen, they held less exotic and continental appeal than someone like Natalia and others.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on September 14, 2016, 11:31:38 am
'I'm so lucky to have those special memories': Lady Kitty Spencer opens up about the precious time she shared with her late aunt Princess Diana

    Socialite, 25, is daughter of Diana's brother Earl Charles Spencer
    Opened up to Vanity Fair about Diana who died when she was seven
    Says her memories are few, but very special
    Aspiring model enjoys opportunity to 'live in a fairytale' for a day


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3788622/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-remembers-late-aunt-Princess-Diana.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 03, 2016, 05:45:22 pm
They know what they want and what their talents are': Lady Kitty Spencer admits she ENVIES homeless young people for their sense of purpose in life
She comes from a family worth £100 million and is related to royalty, but Kitty Spencer admits that her level of privilege has left her struggling to find a purpose in life.
Opening up to The Times, the socialite who is an ambassador for Centrepoint revealed that she even envies some of the young homeless people the charity supports.
Explaining how they are usually very focused on the future, she said: 'They know exactly what they want to do and what their talents are.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3900772/Kitty-Spencer-admits-ENVIES-homeless-people-sense-purpose.html#ixzz4Oy8PdcgA
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Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 04, 2016, 08:21:33 am
I do believe this is the most brainless thing for anyone to say. THIS is what happens when someone isn't raised to actually DO something with themselves. Honestly.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: leogirl on November 04, 2016, 08:49:36 am
Give everyone an award or trophy. Tell everyone they can be whatever they want to be. Ignore the kids in the regular program and overwork the AP/IB kids in every subject. No guidance other than telling regular kids to pass their classes and the AP/IB kids that they won't get into college if they don't maintain a certain GPA. In college, you of course have to pass and do as well as possible, but you can choose a degree program that has no real career options, and oftentimes you end up hating the job your degree is for because work experience isn't part of the degree requirement. Why is this surprising that she, like so many in her generation, doesn't know what her talents are and doesn't have a sense of purpose?

Maybe it would be good for young people to be around people like these homeless who have a sense of purpose. Give them some perspective to be grateful for what they have, and help them determine their strengths and weaknesses so they can choose a career path they're both good at and enjoy. Getting to know real people in need will also help remind them to give back to the community when they do figure out their purpose and get regular jobs.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 05, 2016, 12:57:26 am
I often think that work history and experience should be more of a determining factor than a GPA from high school. Too many idiots going to college to party and think that a high GPA entitles them to a large paycheck. A lot of kids from high school have a shabby work ethic and basically think their professors should just be their guidance counselors and mentors. I found out that a former high school valedictorian from my school works as a server in a country club. Not dishonest work, but frankly, not what you would think someone with the 4.0 GPA would have been a lot more high level in regards to a career. Not being a waitress at a country club. She should be a member of the country club. Meanwhile, I graduated with a 1.72 GPA, but at this point, I run my own multi-national business and I have MAJOR additional positions as well in the high up art field. All without a degree. I do believe that a resume shows what kind of work ethic a person has and I do believe that if resumes dictated acceptance, it would eliminate a lot of time wasters that infest our education system. It would also eliminate those who basically believe that uni should be about matchmaking and partying, not studying and building actual work experience.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on November 06, 2016, 12:36:00 am
I do believe this is the most brainless thing for anyone to say. THIS is what happens when someone isn't raised to actually DO something with themselves. Honestly.

In the Spencer family in particular - girls were unwanted and useless.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: leogirl on November 06, 2016, 04:42:23 am
Well, the first son inherits it all, so any child other than the first boy is useless.

I notice that Kitty's father remarried just before her 11th birthday and had two more children with this new woman. Perhaps her parents were fighting and ignored their kids? Provided for their material needs but did not offer any guidance?

Interesting that Earl Spencer's youngest daughter (from his third wife) is named Charlotte Diana Spencer and she was born three years before her first cousin once removed, Princess Charlotte Elizabeth Diana.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on January 23, 2017, 07:45:42 pm
http://www.newmyroyals.com/2017/01/kitty-spencer-attends-schiaparelli.html?m=1

Kitty being a socialite


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on January 23, 2017, 09:47:14 pm
Very pretty girl. She got the best features of her mother and father.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on March 29, 2017, 09:09:55 pm
I know Jane will never do it but I would love for Sarah to write a book about her life. It would be interesting to read her thoughts on her childhood, the divorce of her parents, her own marriage, her daughters bout with cancer and even Diana.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Tatiana on March 31, 2017, 03:45:29 am
  Jane,  like most people close to "the action" talks through others who write books.   Charles uses others to write his "bash Diana" books all the time.  :bat:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on April 06, 2017, 10:44:01 pm
Earl S & (his current) Countess S were also at the National Portrait Gallery thingy recently, & I think the countess looks really nice
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/03/28/21/3EB7D70500000578-4358006-Stylish_duo_Countess_Spencer_L_and_Earl_Spencer_arrived_in_style-a-109_1490734633664.jpg


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on April 06, 2017, 10:51:47 pm
I am not sure... the top part seems very uncomfortable like I would be nervous about something getting out...


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Little light on April 06, 2017, 11:37:04 pm
I agree. It was almost like she lost the bet to see if she could fit into it, and she cannot.

Flesh overpouring on the top half is not a good look on anyone. And a ruby necklace would not go amiss either.

But on the good side, she isn't flashing her ......, just her overflowing bust. And that's because it's too small. She need a good tailor to let it out for her.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on April 06, 2017, 11:47:17 pm
Haha that is so very true, a little bit too tight, esp in the upper part (personally I'd have been scared for the dress to burst tbh!), but the colour is lovely & I like her subtle makeup and I like the hair, lol I'm nuts, but to me she's somehow refreshing, not a bottle blonde (sorry to any of you, no offence!), no harsh makeup, hair quite voluminous but not helmet-like, the colour of the dress plays nicely with her colouring, a pop of diamonds (earrings)... I don't know, when I saw the picture I just thought Spencer chose a beautiful wife who scrubbed up very nicely (albeit in a too tight dress, guess can't have it all!).


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Little light on April 06, 2017, 11:51:51 pm
I agree, and on reflection a ruby necklace might be too much. But some jewels around her neck might have helped. I'm thinking of the ill fitting bust line.

But she is a refreshing change from others I have seen, too.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Tatiana on April 07, 2017, 08:10:53 am
  Less is more, with an amazing decolletage one doesn't need a necklace. 


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: dianab on April 07, 2017, 11:06:57 pm
is it true Charles Spencer said he didnt see William and Harry for a few years?

I read that in a comments section some time ago.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Rosella on April 07, 2017, 11:16:11 pm
^ In spite of that speech at Diana's funeral about looking after the boys' welfare Charles S has never really been close to his nephews. Jane Fellowes and Sarah Mc have seen them both semi-regularly over the years, but I don't think their brother has. Of course Charles living in South Africa for several years didn't help!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Tatiana on April 09, 2017, 01:48:36 am
  The Spencers were rarely allowed access to William and Harry ... a blind man running for his life can see that.  Charles didn't want them telling "the boys" any true stories about how he had treated their mother. 


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on April 09, 2017, 02:30:33 pm
Charles Spencer is an arrogant hound dog.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on April 09, 2017, 02:52:26 pm
The boys did invite him to Diana's Memorial Service and he attended William's wedding so he is not isolated from Harry and William.. Charles Spencer is no worse than Charles Windsor IMO anyway.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on April 13, 2017, 01:45:27 pm
Princess Diana's niece Lady Kitty Spencer looks worse for wear as she flashes her stomach and sips cocktails with friends in London

    Princess Diana's niece enjoyed drinks in the sun at The Anglesea Arms pub
    The socialite was seen sipping Aperol Spritz as she mingled with pals
    She flashed her stomach in a blue crop top and tight white jeans

Brits are gearing up for a long bank holiday weekend off work and it seems that the party has already started for Lady Kitty Spencer.

Princess Diana's niece looked a little worse for wear as she enjoyed drinks in the sun with her friends at The Anglesea Arms pub in Chelsea, London.

The 26-year-old blonde looked chic in a blue crop top, which showcased her stomach, and a pair of skin-tight white jeans.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4407928/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-looks-worse-wear-London.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: dianab on April 15, 2017, 09:25:06 pm
The boys did invite him to Diana's Memorial Service and he attended William's wedding so he is not isolated from Harry and William.. Charles Spencer is no worse than Charles Windsor IMO anyway.
I've never seen him slandering any of his ex-wives... fair is fair


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on April 15, 2017, 11:17:00 pm
That is so true.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Rosella on April 16, 2017, 12:38:42 am
Charles Spencer was pretty mean to his first wife Victoria (the one who had eating and drug issues) in front of others, joking at a birthday do about her being thick even though she was extremely thin, that sort of thing. I think Charles S has a temper and a sarcastic tongue when he chooses.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: dianab on April 16, 2017, 01:19:58 am
Yes, he was insensitive and cruel towards Victoria when they were married... but
IIRC after their divorce she had drug issues (again) and he was supportive of hers and didnt use it to take their kids away from her

BTW Charles Windsor, Highgrove set and Mountbaten relatives treated Diana far worse as in life as in death IMO


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on April 16, 2017, 02:44:28 pm
Yes, he was insensitive and cruel towards Victoria when they were married... but
IIRC after their divorce she had drug issues (again) and he was supportive of hers and didnt use it to take their kids away from her

BTW Charles Windsor, Highgrove set and Mountbaten relatives treated Diana far worse as in life as in death IMO

He has a history of treating his wives like dirt. No, Charles and Diana were one thing - Champagne Charlie has a long line of wives he mistreated and cheated on - the hypocrite.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on April 16, 2017, 02:53:18 pm
He's a fat faced brute.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on April 16, 2017, 03:40:07 pm
Yes, he was insensitive and cruel towards Victoria when they were married... but
IIRC after their divorce she had drug issues (again) and he was supportive of hers and didnt use it to take their kids away from her

BTW Charles Windsor, Highgrove set and Mountbaten relatives treated Diana far worse as in life as in death IMO

Charles Windsor can't get judgmental over Charles Spencer.IMO.

Sally Bedell Smith goes to see Charles and Camilla for research (she admitted it!) and voila an over the top Diana bashing book appears soon after.

I see Charles Windsor as worse.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on April 16, 2017, 04:10:09 pm
^^^^Charlie Boy and his campon better *be quiet*. He's dumb as dirt to continue that line of speech.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on April 23, 2017, 01:13:37 pm
Yes, he was insensitive and cruel towards Victoria when they were married... but
IIRC after their divorce she had drug issues (again) and he was supportive of hers and didnt use it to take their kids away from her

BTW Charles Windsor, Highgrove set and Mountbaten relatives treated Diana far worse as in life as in death IMO

Charles Windsor can't get judgmental over Charles Spencer.IMO.

Sally Bedell Smith goes to see Charles and Camilla for research (she admitted it!) and voila an over the top Diana bashing book appears soon after.

I see Charles Windsor as worse.

Yes, he can, Champagne Charlie is a serial bully and philanderer. What kind of empty-headed fool asks his girlfriend to dump her own children to cater to him?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on April 23, 2017, 02:40:28 pm
Charles Windsor is still no better and can't condemn Charles Spencer. What bothers me the most about Charles Spencer is the way he made it sound that having the first three children be daughters was a "waste" and he had to have the son. Whining about having daughters is just nasty. They should change the rules so the eldest child inherits and watch him pout.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on April 23, 2017, 02:55:16 pm
The Fat Head Brute Charles Spencer is behaving just like his brute of a father about a male heir.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Tatiana on April 30, 2017, 11:34:33 pm
 The Fat Head Brute Johnny Spencer was behaving just like his father Jack Spencer ....


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on June 22, 2017, 09:24:47 pm
The Christie's catalogue of Raine Spencer's auction
http://www.christies.com/zmags/?ZmagsPublishID=31b63866&SaleTitle=&SaleId=26984&GUID=0


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on June 30, 2017, 01:16:50 pm
They could be sisters! Lady Kitty Spencer is joined by her VERY glamorous mother Victoria Aitken at Tatler's English Roses 2017 party

    Tatler Magazine celebrated its English Roses 2017 at the Saatchi Gallery
    Lady Kitty Spencer and her mother Victoria Aitken were in attendance
    Evening was dedicated to some of Britain's most promising women


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4653864/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-Victoria-Aitken-step-together.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Miss Hathaway on June 30, 2017, 03:11:00 pm
Ummm. . . no.   No, they couldn't . . . . .    :cookie:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: jackiew on June 30, 2017, 04:34:00 pm
 :o What happened to Victoria?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on June 30, 2017, 10:01:00 pm
Victoria looks terrible!  :sigh:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on June 30, 2017, 10:07:26 pm
I guess the drugs show themselves, plus the eating disorder, horrid marriage to Charles Spencer, sunbathing & smoking (if she does those two, my guess is yes) and who knows what other turbulences she's had in life.
She looks her age and then some; why the "mum & daughter look like sisters" garbage has to be spewed all the time I don't understand. Kind of insulting too when it's as clear as day (like here) that that's not the case.

Kitty should imo also lay off the heavy eye makeup, she looks quite lovely when it's less (much less altogther; face, eyes & lips; though the current trend of more-more-more makeup makes everyone look horridly drag queen like with dirt on their cheeks and noses). She has racoon eyes with hard harsh lines (quite Middletonesque), which frankly make her eyes often look wonky.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 30, 2017, 10:37:40 pm
As much as I *despise* to say this, the aristocrats in Britain these days are really low when it comes to behavior; the Spencers have apparently always been disgusting.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Tatiana on July 01, 2017, 12:29:41 am
  Kuei,
         British Aristos have always been low and disgusting, they were robber barons.  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Rosella on July 01, 2017, 01:21:03 am
^ The vast majority of British aristos' ancestors were not in fact robber barons. There are very few whose noble ancestry stretches back to medieval times and before, even fewer whose titles and land stretch back to Norman times and they tend to be country gentry and untitled. Some families, like the Spencers, were sheep farmers, others married heiresses. Some (including the Spencers) descend from King Charles II. Others, quite a few, came from the middle classes and were given titles in the 19th and early 20th centuries for distinguished service to the nation, to the army, navy or to their professions.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 01, 2017, 01:29:02 am
Before the Restoration period, the majority of the titled aristocracy consisted of those who had distinguished themselves in battle and had fought right with the Sovereign in the battlefield. It wasn't until the Tudor era that titles started getting given to bureaucrats or those from the merchant class; the purchase of titles via money smarts and heiresses didn't become regular practice until the Georgian era. I am surprised really that the Spencers haven't worked to distinguish themselves in some real way, not just marriage and cronyism. I believe the Spencers are dominantly Stuart and less disciplined than the older aristocratic families. I wonder how different things would in fact be if the Spencer sons had spent time in a real battlefield and less time in clubs.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Rosella on July 01, 2017, 05:01:36 am
^ My point was though that there are few British  aristocratic families today whose noble ancestry goes way back to the medieval period of of fighting for land. The Howards and Stanley's are exceptions today, and they don't come from robber barons anyway.

 The Spencers have Stuart ancestry, so do a lot more aristo families through Charles II. The Spencers don't have any more than most.

Diana's family have some very distinguished ancestors who contributed to national life. Apart from younger sons who served in senior positions in the Army and Navy there were: 

George 2nd Earl Spencer, who was Home Secretary during the Regency period.
John Spencer, 3rd Earl Spencer, was Chancellor of the Exchequer under Lord Melbourne.
The 4th Earl was a Vice-Admiral who fought in the Napoleonic Wars.
The 5th Earl was twice Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and a prominent politician in the Liberal Party.
The 6th Earl was Lord Chamberlain for a long period in the early 20th century.
Diana's grandfather Albert Earl Spencer, fought in World War One, was Lord Lieutenant of Northamptonshire, Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries of London, was well known as an art and antiquities expert and was Chair of the Advisery Council to the Victoria and Albert Museum.

Are they distinguished enough? I think so.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 01, 2017, 06:06:59 am
I just wonder how it is that the Howards manage to stay out of the tabloids and basically avoid one scandal after another while the Spencers seem to exist for them.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on July 01, 2017, 05:08:50 pm
^ My point was though that there are few British  aristocratic families today whose noble ancestry goes way back to the medieval period of of fighting for land. The Howards and Stanley's are exceptions today, and they don't come from robber barons anyway.

 The Spencers have Stuart ancestry, so do a lot more aristo families through Charles II. The Spencers don't have any more than most.

Diana's family have some very distinguished ancestors who contributed to national life. Apart from younger sons who served in senior positions in the Army and Navy there were: 

George 2nd Earl Spencer, who was Home Secretary during the Regency period.
John Spencer, 3rd Earl Spencer, was Chancellor of the Exchequer under Lord Melbourne.
The 4th Earl was a Vice-Admiral who fought in the Napoleonic Wars.
The 5th Earl was twice Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and a prominent politician in the Liberal Party.
The 6th Earl was Lord Chamberlain for a long period in the early 20th century.
Diana's grandfather Albert Earl Spencer, fought in World War One, was Lord Lieutenant of Northamptonshire, Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries of London, was well known as an art and antiquities expert and was Chair of the Advisery Council to the Victoria and Albert Museum.

Are they distinguished enough? I think so.

The Duke of Marlborough was an idiot, traitor, deadbeat father, and greedy loser who accepted kickbacks. Oh, and he was a Royal w$#$$'s obedient little lapdog. A few of her ancestors were drunks and wife-beaters - seem like the usual dysfunctional family to me.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: gingerboy24 on July 01, 2017, 05:25:00 pm
The mother looks like a man in drag and had taken too much "medication".  Sisters, never in a million years, they don´t even look much like mother and daughter either. Who employs these reporters, can´t need much to qualify as a reporter these when you see the lies they all pedal out at every tiff and turn, daily,  Very difficult to believe any of them say these days.  Used to look the DM donkesy years ago, wouldn´t line the litter box with it these days, my cats are far too fussy to put up with such rubbish.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 01, 2017, 06:46:55 pm
The whole family looks like it's unraveling, just like the Windsors.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on July 01, 2017, 11:52:06 pm
Diana's niece Lady Kitty Spencer, 26, is left heartbroken after her Italian property tycoon ex sets his sights on Liz Hurley - who is twice her age

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4657674/Diana-s-niece-Lady-Kitty-Spencer-26-left-heartbroken.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: jackiew on July 02, 2017, 11:19:23 am
^Not to be insensitive to Kitty, but he was never right for her and has strung her along for years. She's young, pretty and well connected she can do better.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on August 03, 2017, 12:04:44 am
Kitty's gal pals buoy her after break up: Diana's niece takes holiday in Montenegro after split with property tycoon boyfriend

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4755198/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-takes-holiday-Montenegro-split.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on November 16, 2017, 10:39:10 am
Peerage News:
"Woodhouse/McCorquodale engagement
_. The engagement was announced 13 Nov, 2017, between Mr George Woodhouse,, younger son of Mr Philip J. Woodhouse and the late Mrs Sarah J. [Pudding] Woodhouse [nee George], & Celia Rose McCorquodale (born 1989), scion of that landed family, & niece of the late Diana, Princess of Wales, younger daughter of Mr Neil McCorquodale by his wife the former Lady [Elizabeth] Sarah Lavinia Spencer [b 1955], eldest daughter of the late 8th Earl Spencer."

http://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2017/11/woodhousemccorquodale-engagement.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on November 17, 2017, 02:07:19 am
Congratulations to George and Celia!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on December 14, 2017, 10:31:31 pm
Diana's niece Lady Kitty Spencer cosies up to Tallia Storm and Vogue editor Edward Enninful as she dons head-to-toe Fendi for Sloane Square fashion soirée

    Earl Spencer's eldest daughter helped Fendi celebrate new boutique store
    Kitty, 26, donned head-to-toe Fendi including a £2,930 silk georgette gown
    Rubbed shoulders with stars including Tallia Storm and Edward Enninful, OBE


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5180851/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-chats-Tallia-Storm-fashion-bash.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on January 16, 2018, 08:02:07 pm
A feast for the eyes! Lady Kitty Spencer stuns as she tucks into spaghetti in dazzling new Dolce & Gabbana campaign - flanked by an array of VERY blue blooded It Girls

    PICTURE EXCLUSIVE: Lady Kitty Spencer in Dolce & Gabbana's Spring campaign
    Princess Diana's niece appears alongside Sabrina Percy and Frankie Herbert
    Previously Lady Amelia Windsor has appeared in D&G campaign   


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5228803/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-stars-Dolce-Gabanna-campaign.html

Awful campaign and really awful that they just also snapped and included random tourists and locals (all the people in the background). I guess D&G think it's an "honour" for the plebeian non-models to be part of their (print) campaign. :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on January 22, 2018, 08:35:42 pm
A green goddess! Lady Kitty Spencer wows in a printed shirt dress as she arrives at the Schiaparelli show during Paris Fashion Week

    Kitty Spencer, 27, looked stylish in the fitted number, featuring a whimsical print
    She finished off the chic ensemble with a pair of black embellished heels
    Socialite has become a regular at fashion week, appearing on catwalk for D&G


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5297255/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-looks-stylish-Schiaparelli-show.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: FrederickLouis on February 01, 2018, 09:44:35 pm
Charles Spencer speaks about Althorp Estate. At one time there were eight to nine libraries.     
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pflj3zb4CFY   
 :study: :study: :study: :study: :study: :study: :study: :study: :study: :study: :study: :study:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on February 13, 2018, 03:40:05 am
I know during W&W wedding (and I know it's been 6 years or so) one Willy's Spencer cousins was pregnant, I'm thinking maybe Jane's daughter. Anybody have an old update?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Rosella on February 13, 2018, 04:23:43 am
I think it was Laura Fellowes Pettman. She had a son later that year. She and her husband are among the turnip toffs living near Anmer.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on February 13, 2018, 03:48:40 pm
Thanks, Rosella! :)


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on May 22, 2018, 12:44:12 pm
Taking Harry’s crown? Royal fans swoon over snaps of Princess Diana’s VERY dashing nephew Louis Spencer at the wedding – and say he’ll fill the gap left by the world’s most eligible bachelor

    Louis Spencer, Viscount Althorp, caught attention of viewers on Saturday
    24-year-old looked  dapper as he arrived at ceremony with glamorous sisters
    Harry's cousin, who is future Earl Spencer, is currently believed to be single


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5756991/Royal-fans-swoon-Princess-Dianas-dashing-nephew-Louis-Spencer.html


Revealed: How the EIGHTEEN different products used to get Lady Kitty Spencer royal wedding ready cost an eye-watering £560

    Kitty Spencer, 27, oozed glamour at the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's wedding
    She revealed the Charlotte Tilbury items used to achieve her look on Instagram
    She thanked Neville Salon for styling her hair and Bulgari for accessorizing her
    Kitty made a fashion statement wearing Philip Treacy and Dolce & Gabbana


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5754219/The-EIGHTEEN-different-products-used-Kitty-Spencer-royal-wedding-ready.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: AnaBolena on May 22, 2018, 05:28:09 pm
Kitty Spencer looked extremely beautiful!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: YooperModerator on May 22, 2018, 05:35:16 pm
^Yes, she did.  She wins best dressed at this tent revival, in my book.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: windsor2 on May 29, 2018, 11:02:16 pm
How Lady Kitty Spencer became fashion’s new ‘IT girl’: Princess Diana’s niece could be set to make up to £2m a YEAR after securing lucrative campaigns with Bvlgari and D&G
Quote
Chris Ogle, who advises on brand strategy for Flow Digital, said: 'Lady Kitty Spencer's partnership with Bvlgari highlights the value of personal brand preservation rather than selling to the highest bidder at the earliest opportunity.
'Her value lies in a rare combination of having a large and engaged social media following, her royal title, her close association with fashion houses and her charitable work.
Meanwhile, Emma Usher, from RunRagged - a leading celebrity consultancy that books VIPs for red carpet events, endorsements and campaigns - agreed Lady Kitty's campaigns to date could lead to more partnerships with fashion brands.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5782983/How-Lady-Kitty-Spencer-fashions-new-girl.html
I’m sure she’s too busy these days for charity work as she seems to be jet setting and such.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on May 30, 2018, 08:15:04 am
She's gorgeous.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Little light on May 30, 2018, 11:08:18 am
She doesn’t have a royal title. SMH  bignono but she does have relatives that are royal.

But she is gorgeous and wears the clothes well.  I think she’ll do well.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on June 04, 2018, 07:40:21 pm
Fashion runs in the family! Uncanny images show how Kitty Spencer dresses EXACTLY like her aunt Princess Diana

    Model and socialite Lady Kitty Spencer is the niece of Diana Princess of Wales
    The D&G ambassador has been channelling her late aunt in recent outfits
    Kitty, 27, wore a green sequin number that resembles Diana's 'mermaid dress'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5803983/How-Kitty-Spencer-dresses-exactly-like-aunt-Princess-Diana.html

For crying out loud.... Here's a naff little piece, in case someone has some time to kill or is bored... Or just wants to oggle some pics of Di & Kit..


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on June 17, 2018, 12:46:19 pm
No slipping in! Newlywed almost takes a tumble as royals descend on Lincolnshire for the wedding of Diana's niece who wears the same tiara that the late Princess wore at her wedding

    The Duke and Duchess of Sussex attended a family wedding yesterday
    Harry and Meghan attended the nuptials of Harry's cousin Celia McCorquodale
    Celia is the daughter of Princess Diana's sister, Lady Sarah McCorquodale
    The bride wore the same tiara worn by Diana on her own wedding in 1981

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5853123/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-steal-Princess-Dianas-nieces-wedding.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D543FD500000578-5853123-image-a-59_1529227256707.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D543A0300000578-5853123-image-a-63_1529227427535.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D543A8E00000578-5853123-image-a-54_1529227003077.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D54372600000578-5853123-The_bride_and_groom_kissed_at_the_entrance_to_the_church_after_t-a-2_1529226681206.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D54367F00000578-5853123-image-a-32_1529224913614.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D543CE100000578-5853123-image-a-68_1529228199688.jpg
Celia, daughter of Lady Sarah McCorquodale tied the knot with George Woodhouse, pictured

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D543AA300000578-5853123-image-a-61_1529227348251.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D54365000000578-5853123-Celia_cousin_of_Prince_William_and_Harry_was_the_picture_of_happ-a-1_1529226681110.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D54363300000578-5853123-image-a-34_1529224931851.jpg
Celia looks quite like a Spencer!! (def a similarity with Di!)
Beautiful bride.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D543DA700000578-5853123-image-a-60_1529227291751.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D5439DA00000578-5853123-image-a-65_1529227472781.jpg

Flower power! Lady Kitty Spencer stuns in a peony print dress as she joins Harry and Meghan at her cousin's wedding in Lincolnshire

    Kitty joined royals at Celia McCorquodale and George Woodhouse's wedding
    The glamorous royal stole the show in a peony print Dolce & Gabbana dress
    Kitty, 27, is making a name for herself as a model and fashion ambassador

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5853163/Kitty-Spencer-joins-Harry-Meghan-Lincolnshire-wedding.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D5439D300000578-5853163-image-a-13_1529227117422.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D54352600000578-5853163-image-a-10_1529226274981.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D543FF100000578-5853163-image-a-9_1529225186631.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D54353000000578-5853163-image-a-15_1529227168926.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D5439F000000578-5853163-image-a-25_1529227413583.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D5436E700000578-5853163-image-a-14_1529227137030.jpg

Charles & Karen Spencer (& Jane)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D543A0400000578-5853123-image-a-36_1529225033425.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D543EF500000578-5853123-image-m-50_1529226081311.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D543FE500000578-5853123-image-a-58_1529227223805.jpg

Mother-of-the-bride Lady Sarah McCorquodale (looking beautiful)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D54354000000578-5853123-image-m-39_1529225181996.jpg

Jane Fellowes
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D543A7700000578-5853123-image-m-40_1529225215025.jpg

Louis & Harry & Meg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D54366700000578-5853123-image-a-43_1529225824832.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D54369300000578-5853123-image-a-44_1529225832012.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D5436BF00000578-5853123-image-a-45_1529225834521.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D54362F00000578-5853123-image-a-46_1529225837882.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/09/4D54363F00000578-5853123-image-a-47_1529225839668.jpg

Is this maybe Victoria Lockwood in navy?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/10/4D54399F00000578-5853163-image-a-11_1529226374915.jpg

Where are Amelia & Eliza Spencer, they are in London right now. Also where are Will & Kate?


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Kins on June 17, 2018, 04:31:17 pm
^Lady Sarah looks stunning!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on June 17, 2018, 04:40:20 pm
^ She does! Absolutely smashing!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: dianab on June 17, 2018, 10:50:08 pm
Diana's sisters aged badly IMO ... i'm not talking about their clothes.... both of them looks beyond 60-somethings IMO

Charles S and his 1rst wife Victoria in fact made gorgeous children!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on June 17, 2018, 11:29:43 pm
Louis Spencer is so handsome.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on June 17, 2018, 11:43:57 pm
^^ I agree, I'm always a bit taken aback when I see them, their skin is very wrinkly and shouldn't be quite that much at their age. I don't think all that much is known about them, so it's hard (for me) to determine due to what it is, but everyone smokes so my guess is they do too and that's certainly a very important factor. Health issues? Tanning? hmm.. Diana was quite the exception with her anti smoking stance...

^ He is. Better looking than his father ever was, I hope he also treats women better than his father used to...


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on June 20, 2018, 10:54:08 pm
Two nights on the trot! Lady Kitty Spencer lives up to her socialite status as she steps out at ANOTHER showbiz bash alongside a knicker-flashing Lady Mary Charteris

    Lady Kitty, 27, walked the red carpet at the Victoria & Albert Museum
    Dressed in a bright tiled design dress, the socialite kept her hair pulled back
    She was joined by fellow socialite Lady Mary Charteris who was ravishing in red

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5866967/Kitty-Spencer-joins-Mary-Charteris-V-summer-party.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/20/20/4D75463F00000578-0-image-a-2_1529521282270.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/20/22/4D75D59B00000578-5866967-image-m-4_1529528889899.jpg

Yesterday at the Serpentine Gallery's summer party

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/19/20/4D6BBB5300000578-5862353-image-m-60_1529437225558.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/19/20/4D6BBB8700000578-5862353-image-a-65_1529437266914.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/19/20/4D6BBB7700000578-5862353-image-a-63_1529437254322.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/20/20/4D6BBE8800000578-0-She_was_joined_by_fellow_royal_Lady_Kitty_Spencer_who_looked_gla-a-3_1529521306935.jpg


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on June 21, 2018, 03:48:46 am
^^ I agree, I'm always a bit taken aback when I see them, their skin is very wrinkly and shouldn't be quite that much at their age. I don't think all that much is known about them, so it's hard (for me) to determine due to what it is, but everyone smokes so my guess is they do too and that's certainly a very important factor. Health issues? Tanning? hmm.. Diana was quite the exception with her anti smoking stance...

^ He is. Better looking than his father ever was, I hope he also treats women better than his father used to...

I'm thinking Sarah smokes, idk about Jane. Jane's hair is natural gray, while Sarah probably tints hers. Outwardly they both look healthy, but who knows.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: AnaBolena on June 22, 2018, 04:43:50 pm
Lady Kitty ---- looks just ok this time.

Lady Mary ---- Ick.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: D.I.R. on July 23, 2018, 04:16:12 pm
https://alchetron.com/Raine-Spencer,-Countess-Spencer

Raine Spencer, Countess Spencer

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Occupation  socialite, politician
Name  Raine Countess
Role  Socialite
Movies  Playing with Souls
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Full Name  Raine McCorquodale
Born  9 September 1929 (age 86) (1929-09-09)
Parents  Barbara Cartland, Alexander McCorquodale
Spouse  John Spencer (m. 1976), Gerald Legge, 9th Earl of Dartmouth (m. 1948)
Children  William Legge, 10th Earl of Dartmouth
Siblings  Glen McCorquodale, Ian McCorquodale
Similar People  John Spencer, Barbara Cartland, Charles Spencer, Lady Sarah McCorquodale, Frances Shand Kydd
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Raine, Countess Spencer (née McCorquodale; 9 September 1929 – 21 October 2016) was a British socialite and local politician formerly known, by prior marriages, as the Comtesse Jean-François Pineton de Chambrun, Lady Dartmouth and Lady Lewisham. She was the daughter of Alexander McCorquodale and the romantic novelist and socialite Dame Barbara Cartland.

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Her taste was frequently questioned and her relationship with her stepchildren much discussed. As Countess Spencer, Raine was unpopular with her stepdaughter Diana, who became Princess of Wales. Her three marriages, at varying times, accorded her five titles: the Honourable Mrs. Gerald Legge, Viscountess Lewisham, Countess of Dartmouth, Countess Spencer and Comtesse de Chambrun.

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Early years
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Raine McCorquodale was the only child of novelist Barbara Cartland and Alexander McCorquodale, an Army officer who was heir to a printing fortune. Her parents divorced in 1936, and her mother promptly married Alexander McCorquodale's cousin, Hugh McCorquodale, by whom she had two sons, Ian and Glen McCorquodale.

Countess of Dartmouth
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In 1947, 18-year-old Raine McCorquodale was launched as a debutante into London high society. She had a successful season, not only being named "Deb of the Year," but becoming engaged to be married to the heir to an earldom, the Hon. Gerald Humphry Legge. She and Legge married on 21 July 1948. He succeeded to the courtesy title Viscount Lewisham in 1958 and became the 9th Earl of Dartmouth in 1962. The couple had four children:

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William Legge, 10th Earl of Dartmouth (23 September 1949) married Fiona Campbell in June 2009. They have one son.
Hon. Rupert Legge (1 January 1953) He married Victoria S. Ottley in 1984. They have two children: Edward Peregrine Legge (b 1986) and Claudia Rose Legge (b 1989)
Lady Charlotte Legge (16 July 1963) she married Don Alessandro Paternò Castello, 13th Duke of Carcaci on 19 December 1990. They have three children.
Hon. Henry Legge (28 December 1968) married Cressida Hogg (daughter of Sir Christopher Hogg) on 21 December 1995. They have three daughters.
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Following her marriage, Lady Dartmouth began to take a strong interest in politics. At age 23, she became the youngest member of Westminster City Council as a Conservative. As Lady Lewisham, and later Lady Dartmouth, she remained in local government for the following 17 years. She sat on Westminster's town planning, parks and personnel committees, and was later elected to represent Richmond on the Greater London Council. In this capacity she took a special interest in environmental planning and ancient buildings. She chaired the Covent Garden Development Committee and the government working party for the United Nations Conference on the Human Environment in Stockholm.

In 1973 she began a relationship with John Spencer, Lord Althorp, her colleague on an architectural heritage committee. Lord and Lady Dartmouth were consequently divorced in 1976.

Countess Spencer
Lord Althorp succeeded his father as the 8th Earl Spencer on 9 June 1975. Lord Spencer and Lady Dartmouth were married at Caxton Hall, London, on 14 July 1976. As Countess Spencer, Raine was unpopular with her stepdaughter Lady Diana Spencer and her siblings, who referred to their stepmother as "Acid Raine". However, media reports have suggested that at the time of her death Diana had reconciled with her stepmother, while her relationship with her mother Frances Shand Kydd, had been strained; Diana and her mother had not communicated for several months before Diana died.

In 1978 Lord Spencer suffered a brain haemorrhage; his wife nursed him, and his recovery is credited to her care and devotion coupled with the use of an untested drug. Following her husband's illness, Lady Spencer was widely criticised by the press and conservationists for her redecoration of Althorp, the Spencer family seat; it was felt that the heavy use of new gilding and wallpapers failed to compensate for the missing treasures which included, besides properties and land, works by Sir Anthony Van Dyck and Thomas Gainsborough, furniture, china, porcelain, silver, gold, and family documents sold to fund the project and necessary restoration of the house.

The Earl fully endorsed and assisted in his wife's alteration to Althorp and fund-raising activities. However, this was not enough to stop Earl Spencer's son and heir, Charles Viscount Althorp (later the ninth and Present Earl) from describing his stepmother's taste in decoration as having "the wedding cake vulgarity of a five-star hotel in Monaco."

Lord and Lady Spencer led an opulent lifestyle, entertaining frequently and generously, and travelling greatly. In February 1981, they became globally known following the engagement of Lady Spencer's stepdaughter Diana to Charles, Prince of Wales. The Countess attended their wedding in 1981, but was not seated with her husband: while the Earl and Mrs. Shand Kydd and their other children sat opposite the Royal Family, the Countess and Mr. Shand Kydd, the bride's step-father, were both seated in the congregation. Countess Spencer did not appear on the balcony of Buckingham Palace following the ceremony.

When Lord Spencer died on 29 March 1992, the dowager Countess immediately left Althorp, as she and her stepchildren had a poor relationship. It was reported that Diana ordered her clothes, which had been packed in suitcases with the Spencer emblem, to be removed and put into black bin liners instead.

She received a £4 million inheritance and a townhouse in London's Mayfair from her husband.

Comtesse de Chambrun
In July 1993, Raine Spencer married a third husband, Count Jean-François Pineton de Chambrun (a descendant of the Marquis de La Fayette and a member of a prominent French family related to the American Roosevelt family), after a 33-day courtship. They married in a civil ceremony in London.

The Count, a younger son of Jean-Pierre Pineton de Chambrun, Marquis de Chambrun (a deaf biochemist-artist), was previously married to an American, Josalee Douglas. The Countess again attracted charges of vulgarity in Britain when it was discovered that pictures of the wedding had been sold to Hello magazine for a reputed £70,000. Her mother did not attend the wedding ceremony. It was at this time that, while none of her Spencer stepchildren attended this wedding, it was claimed that there was a rapprochement between her and the Princess of Wales.

The de Chambruns' marriage was short-lived and the couple were divorced in 1995. Styled since the marriage as Comtesse Jean-François Pineton de Chambrun, Raine chose to revert to her previous surname and style of Raine, Countess Spencer, despite this being against convention.

Later life
In December 2007, Spencer was again featured in the news, giving evidence at the London inquest into the death of Diana, Princess of Wales. Making a rare public comment on her relationship with her stepdaughter, she said: "[Diana] always said I had no hidden agenda. So many people, because she was so popular and so world famous, wanted something out of her. It was a very draining life." Later she told the court, "Well, we all want the dark handsome gentleman to walk through the door."

Latterly, Spencer was a member of the board of directors of Harrods, and occasionally worked in the store, although as she told the inquest "Ironically, I never went shopping in Harrods. It was my husband [Earl Spencer] who practically lived there." Her principal home was in Mayfair, London.

The Dowager Countess Spencer did not attend the 2011 Wedding of her step-grandson, Prince William to Catherine Middleton

Her death at age 87, following a short illness, was announced by her family on 21 October 2016.

Titles and styles
1929–1947: Miss Raine McCorquodale
1947–1958: The Honourable Mrs Gerald Legge
1958–1962: Viscountess Lewisham
1962–1976: The Right Honourable Countess of Dartmouth
1976: Raine, Countess of Dartmouth
1976–1992: The Right Honourable Countess Spencer
1992-93: The Right Honourable Dowager Countess Spencer
1993–95: Comtesse de Chambrun
1995–2016: Raine, Countess Spencer


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on August 05, 2018, 12:58:35 am
TALK OF THE TOWN: Never mind the age gap, Lady Kitty! Is Princess Diana's niece, 27, getting cosy with 59-year-old high street retail tycoon

Diana’s niece Lady Kitty Spencer has, I believe, found herself a new beau – a super-wealthy tycoon who is five years older than her father.

Lady Kitty, 27, who previously dated property magnate Niccolo Barattieri di San Pietro, 47, for four years, has now been linked to retail tycoon Michael Lewis, 59. He owns the high street fashion chains Whistles and Phase Eight.

Both Kitty and Michael’s people remained resolutely tight-lipped about any flourishing romance when I approached them both.

But what surprised me was that when I first approached Michael, it was Lady Kitty’s publicist at her model agency Storm who returned the call!

Previously the same publicist had helpfully dismissed an earlier rumour that she was dating a different man last year. This time there was no such denial.

Last week Lady Kitty, daughter of Earl Spencer, 54, and Michael were both travelling separately in southern Europe but it is not clear if they met up. She has recently ‘followed’ his children on Instagram.

Sources close to Michael, who also runs Oceana Investment Partners, confirmed that the blue-blooded model has visited his £19 million, seven-bedroom mansion close to Regent’s Park.

While some eyebrows have been raised among Lady Kitty’s close circle, it is clear that she does have a penchant for the older man.

She was left heartbroken when Niccolo, 20 years her senior, dumped her last year to set his sights on Elizabeth Hurley. My fingers are crossed things end happily this time.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6026963/Is-Princess-Dianas-niece-27-getting-cosy-59-year-old-high-street-retail-tycoon.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on August 05, 2018, 01:22:51 am
He's too old for her. iMO.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: leogirl on August 05, 2018, 03:44:38 am
She really needs to find a man her own age, or maybe a few years older. Not men who are old enough to be her father. No surprise if it doesn't end well.  :there:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: AnaBolena on August 05, 2018, 06:06:18 pm
Too big an age gap!

What will he talk to her about?  Her algebra?  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on August 06, 2018, 12:36:30 pm
They talk at cross purposes. Kitty is talking about the size of his wallet. Michael is talking about her age and her lineage.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: dianab on August 22, 2018, 12:38:07 am
Earl Spencer shares a newly colorised photo of his father from his army days in the 1940s - and fans go wild for the resemblance to Princess Diana
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6082461/Fans-spot-resemblance-Diana-photo-father.html

James Hewitt (in 1980s) resemblance is UNCANNY! :sigh:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 12:43:22 am
She looks a lot like her mother too. Will's inherited some of his looks from John Spencer.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on October 17, 2018, 05:13:49 pm
Kitty’s Arabian nights! Princess Diana’s model niece shares a glimpse into her VERY glamorous working holiday in Dubai

    Lady Kitty Spencer jetted to the UAE for the launch of Bvlgari's Fiorever line
    Italian luxury brand threw lavish bash to celebrate new jewellery collection
    Bvlgari ambassador Lady Kitty, 27, shared glimpses of exotic desert party

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6285941/Kitty-Spencer-shares-glimpse-glamorous-Dubai-working-holiday.html


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/17/14/5125730-6285941-image-a-63_1539782852113.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/17/14/5125734-6285941-image-a-66_1539782885272.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/17/14/5125262-6285941-image-m-65_1539782885154.jpg


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: gingerboy24 on October 18, 2018, 10:18:53 am
More class in a creased frock than in the whole of council cath and murky put together.  She is stunning when made up and has the "it" factor that is unfortunately missing with the other two. 


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: dianab on October 18, 2018, 02:51:11 pm
kitty, her sisters & brother have very beautiful faces. diana's sons unfortunately NOT. their wives cannot be more plain looking (particularly Meghan).


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on January 25, 2019, 03:39:06 pm
Bright eyed beauty! Diana's niece Lady Kitty Spencer stuns in a figure hugging cocktail dress and show-stopping diamonds at a glittering New York party

    Lady Kitty Spencer attended the Town & Country Jewelry Awards on Thursday 
    She looked elegant in a figure hugging black satin cocktail dress 
    The late Princess Diana's niece is a model and brand ambassador to Bulgari

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6631505/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-attends-Town-Country-Jewelry-Awards.html


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/25/10/8975386-6631505-image-a-2_1548413256823.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/25/10/8975382-6631505-image-a-9_1548413301592.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/25/10/8975390-6631505-image-m-8_1548413294321.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/25/10/8975392-6631505-image-a-11_1548413354671.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/25/10/8975394-6631505-image-a-13_1548413438438.jpg

She's fiddling with her face too much, too much lip filler alone and she has a bit of the crazy eyes going on here... :o


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: YooperModerator on January 25, 2019, 04:13:37 pm
^Good heavens!  What has she done to herself? 


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on January 25, 2019, 05:35:11 pm
If I say what I think you have to ban me   :shy: :laugh: :o


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on January 25, 2019, 08:21:18 pm
You and me both, Alexandrine!  :shy:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: misanthrocrat on January 26, 2019, 01:36:33 am
I get a very, very bad vibe from this woman. She is not all together. Talk about decayed aristo material mixed with "model" prole genes.  

This one makes me feel like MM may really not be the absolute worst thing that happened to the Royal circles. Everything I read and see about this woman is beyond dubious and creepy.

She seems drugged here, which she probably is. Let them be. If only people like that could walk themselves off the gene pool. May sound harsh but - ugh.

  


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sanka on January 26, 2019, 03:27:06 am
Good grief those photos are scary.

I wonder if she would be considered model material if she was not related to Diana....


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: misanthrocrat on January 26, 2019, 06:31:00 am
Talk about sinister Stepford Wife looks.
And all the mess I read about her with her vapid clubbing lifestyle... she is a major  bignono bignono.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on January 26, 2019, 10:26:23 am
@misanthocrat no drug discussion unless there is published reports. TY


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on January 26, 2019, 01:50:58 pm
^^ What did you read where? I'm not aware of any bad stories re: Kitty, no dubious or creepy stories either.. :dontknow:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: misanthrocrat on January 27, 2019, 11:22:03 pm
^^ I was not aware that expression of opinion that someone looks like they are under some kind of "influence" is not allowed. Like the use of the word "h*te" which I've noticed is automatically replaced with "despise". 
Live and learn. I wonder whether this type of censorship reflects the values of the forums founders/owners or it is related to litigation concerns.
Either way - I got it.

^@HRHOlya,
My opinions of Kitty Spencer are based largely on the way she looks, the vibe she exudes, and readings on what she busies herself with on a regular basis. I also once saw some out of control, lascivious pictures of her dancing in some night-club which I found anything but compatible with an "elite" position.
I took the liberty to conclude that she is clearly not the type of person I admire. I could be wrong, of course. But I will follow my instinct and maintain this opinion, until proven otherwise.     

As stated, she is a person I get a bad vibe from, overall. I do tend to judge books by their cover. The method usually works quite well.

Is this type of opinion/perception allowed, or is it also subject to some level of censorship?



Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on January 28, 2019, 08:26:50 am
We consider that there are some limits. Drug talk is one of those. If you have any question you should use the forum rules board or send a pm.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on January 28, 2019, 08:52:22 pm
^^ Thanks for explaining, I don't have seen or know that video, if you find it post a link :flower: She does hang out with some people at places... :-X :dontknow:
I only know that the twins (Eliza & Amelia) or one of them behaved very very terribly towards a homeless person and a bit more... That was many years ago, when they were still teens.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on January 28, 2019, 08:53:11 pm
^seriously????


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on January 28, 2019, 09:34:05 pm
^ Yeah making fun of them and I don't remember.. kicking as well? Insulting? I think kicking was involved, I think it's easily found via google, I'll try to dig sth up in a few days when I have more time to waste! I believe law was also involved, re that hobo or maybe even drunkeness... I'll look what I can find in a couple of days.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on January 28, 2019, 09:35:25 pm
 :o :thankyou:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: misanthrocrat on January 29, 2019, 04:56:11 am
^^^^

Hm, I am not surprised. I didn't know about the twins and the homeless person (how sickening); but, like I said - this family...the vibe. It's a  bignono for me.

I don't need that many extra details. Their general lifestyle, their mother, their father's current wife, the three of them...yeah.

 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1384440/Earl-Spencers-girls-Dianas-nieces-VERY-racy-streak.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sanka on January 29, 2019, 08:20:59 am
Good grief they certainly are a piece of work.

Surely they can't be that stupid to release that the media would publish some of these incidents or maybe they think they are above normal well behaved and respectable people.

^misanthrocat that vibe is spot on given these articles and other information.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on February 04, 2019, 07:02:39 pm
Alexandrine, I completely forgot I wanted to look for the articles re: the assault by one of the Spencer twins!!! I was (still am) super busy with work and then on the weekend I was just lazy and forgot all I wanted to do.. As usual :shy:

Here's some more (^^ good find btw!)

"Perhaps the only Spencer cousin to have posed for a police mugshot, Lady Amelia Spencer was arrested in 2011 for allegedly drunkenly assaulting a man on crutches during a foul-mouthed tirade outside a McDonald's in Cape Town.

The charges were later dropped.

Like her twin sister Eliza, Lady Amelia — who studied at the University of Cape Town — appears to have left such antics behind."

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/23/00/4D89439100000578-5876087-Mugshot_Lady_Amelia_Spencer_had_a_run_in_with_police_in_South_Af-a-31_1529709502951.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5876087/Meet-Prince-Harry-Williams-cousins-Princess-Dianas-side.html


"Amelia (police mugshot pictured) almost didn’t make it to the nuptials of her cousin Prince William because she was facing charges for allegedly kicking a man on crutches in a late-night fracas in a drive-in McDonald’s queue in Cape Town. Charges against her were eventually dropped, allowing her to make the wedding"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3546732/Diana-s-nieces-hedonistic-lives-aristocracy-changed.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Alexandrine on February 04, 2019, 08:26:50 pm
Omg!  :o


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: misanthrocrat on February 06, 2019, 04:23:30 am
^^
I didn't even know the bar was THAT low - but my vibe radar worked like the fine machine that it is.
More people should give stereotyping a fair chance. It works.

She looks lovely in that mug shot.

Smugs aside ... good grief.   


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: AnaBolena on February 06, 2019, 02:30:25 pm
^Ive always had not so good vibes off of the entire Spencer family.  I don’t know why, but something is off with them, so all of this with Kitty and Co is of no surprise.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on February 06, 2019, 07:30:34 pm
^^ lol Yes sometimes a book's cover is a perfect fit...


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: misanthrocrat on February 07, 2019, 06:51:30 am
^ MOST of the times.

The rest are exceptions to the rule which you apologize for misjudging after they were proven otherwise.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on February 07, 2019, 07:02:48 pm
^ Indeed :thumbsup:


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: Snowpea on February 13, 2019, 01:31:11 pm
^Ive always had not so good vibes off of the entire Spencer family.  I don’t know why, but something is off with them, so all of this with Kitty and Co is of no surprise.  :cookie:

Yes, but it must suck though that your father was more interested in running around with women and regretted you were born because you weren't male. Must feel very unloved and unwanted by Champagne Charlie.

The Spencers in particular seemed to find the births of any females disappointing. But then again, they go back generations being louts, drunks and fair-weather royal fawns and then turn-coats when things got a little too difficult. For a group of people who gladly wh$red out their own women at the drop of a hat, their behaviour is not surprising. Not surprising at all.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sandy on February 13, 2019, 02:23:40 pm
He whined that he had to bring three girls into the world before he got the Son.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: AnaBolena on February 13, 2019, 03:43:08 pm
^^Exactly.  It’s as if a woman is only supposed to produce sons or she’s useless. Very sad male lineage.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on February 24, 2019, 06:46:54 pm
Stylish lady! Diana's aristocratic niece Kitty Spencer cuts a glamorous figure in black lace dress and oversized khaki blazer at Dolce & Gabbana show

    Lady Kitty Spencer attended the Dolce & Gabbana fashion show in Milan today
    She wore a figure-hugging black lace dress from the Italian fashion house
    But she toughened the look up with a military-style khaki jacket thrown on top

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6739769/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-cuts-glamorous-figure-black-lace-dress-Dolce-Gabbana-show.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: SouthernBelle on February 24, 2019, 07:54:07 pm
He whined that he had to bring three girls into the world before he got the Son.

And it’s the father’s chromosomes which determine a baby’s sex.  What a fool!


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: dianab on February 26, 2019, 03:21:23 pm
Charles Spencer appears have a close relationship with his children. I remember seeing pics of him out and about with his daughters and son.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on March 19, 2019, 02:09:49 pm
'I don't have to answer to anyone': Princess Diana's niece Lady Kitty Spencer reveals why she's determined to earn her own money (despite her father being worth £116M)

    Lady Kitty Eleanore Spencer, 28, opened up to Harper's Bazaar about feminism
    Niece of Princess Diana's is a model and an advocate for women's rights
    Her father's net worth estimated at £116million, but she likes earning own money
    Lady Kitty is a spokesperson for Bulgari and has modelled for Dolce & Gabbana

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6825633/Lady-Kitty-Spencer-WOWS-lavish-Harpers-Bazaar-cover-bashes-Instagram-influencers.html


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: HRHOlya on March 25, 2019, 12:01:03 am
Lady Kitty Spencer Finally Steps Into the Spotlight

You may know her as Princess Diana's niece, but we know her as fashion's rising star. For BAZAAR.com's Spring digital cover, the model talks taking on the fashion industry—and how she’s handling her newfound fame.

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a26786746/lady-kitty-spencer-model-princess-diana-niece-interview-2019/


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: CathyJane on March 25, 2019, 01:48:24 am
She is too young to have messed up her face;  she was very pretty before.


Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: sanka on March 25, 2019, 07:47:31 am
That first dress reminds me of a curtain.




Title: Re: The Spencer Family
Post by: india on March 25, 2019, 03:52:25 pm
Duck Lips Galore